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His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, We've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors, so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores, and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children? to live in fear and be a slave. O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? And good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, this is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Kirky We are on live 365, then go to Liberty Tree Radio. You will also find us on AM and FM microstations, CB base stations, and alternate technologies. East, west of the Mississippi, southern, and let's see. southern and northern alaska along with the elutions and we're on the hallmark network a colonial state states uh... to include a number of different expansions which will culminate in the golden spike project in the south eastern or southern ohio see what happens there mostly hi to chris tonight also and evert and uh... shannon or share with two ends shannon and want to say thank you also to slim and Christopher in Tennessee. Plus, let's do one more here. We also have to say hi to Newman and Oscar in Eastern Kentucky. So you guys are all doing a great job. I want to say thank you. And to, oh, one more. W.S. Junior out of Canton. W.S. Junior out of Canton. I want to say hi there too and thank you very much. I got your package today in the mail. Congratulations, you guys are helping with the alternate from that end. So for our friends there, greetings. It is a beautiful Tuesday. We went from kind of gray to clearing up again. It looked like we were going to get rained on. The storms went around us, but they didn't hit us, which is rather fascinating. So, we're pretty much in the clear for most of the day. We've had some breeze, gradual air, air is actually getting cooler again tonight. That's part of this front that's moved in. So just a warning there for you guys keeping on your plans, depending on how far north you are. You've got to look at the possibility of still a frost coming in here. I know we're looking at the end of the month, heading towards June now. But that doesn't mean that the frost, the killer frost, can't pop us once in a while. OK? We don't want to see that happen. So, for everybody who is doing their food management, get everything squared away and be done with it. Now, something I touched on this morning, actually there's a bunch of things we've touched on through the day, but something I pulled out, I didn't get a chance to cover in the morning hour program, but we're talking about degradation. let's look at the idea that production stopped on everything the economy literally grinds to a halt okay uh... everybody's expecting this catastrophic all at once boom boom you know civilizations just disappear blah blah blah blah blah not how things work and contrary to what everybody thinks the majority of civilizations have disappeared have literally just disappeared through consumption and especially technologies now If you were sitting at your desk, historically how would you know if this were the case? Physically, how would you know? What would survive or how much is preserved of the technology you knew 30 years ago? The reason I say 30 years ago is because that's the 70s. We're talking initial computers are in place. Let's talk about Bell Telephone. Everything that you use at the time pretty much is still in place. A lot of it is still being used because it's completely integrated with or can be integrated with whatever else is in service right now. But if tomorrow all the rest of your manufacturing will be cut off, including the companies that make the super widgets where after all you just play it and throw it away, what do you do when you can't get any more to throw away? How long would that technology last? How long before that technology fades off and you have to start picking up other technology and people start scrabbling for the earlier generation equipment because they realize there's nothing else to replace with the toys and the trinkets that have been created that were all modular. Now at a given point that becomes in such demand that it actually starts to disappear. But let's say that all manufacturing and support gets cut off. What happens for instance with metals? Do you think you let metal go to waste? Does it just sit around and nobody does anything with it, especially if there is a wide array of it? For instance, even plastic, same thing. Well, if everything were just hit and you were to walk away from your house, all of these subjects, all these items we are talking about have a given lifespan of survivability under duress, in other words with bad weather. And up here in Michigan, we have bad weather. I've said before, I played in the ruins of the Depression and now that which I played in cannot be found. The foundations are there if you know where to look but even they can't be seen for all the growth and for all of the other things that have built up. The accumulation of leaves season after season. But the buildings and the structures and the individual little houses and stuff that I used to play in way, way up north because they had been abandoned. And some of them remember that we're two and a half and three story farmhouses, great farmsteads on ranch, on farms, kind of like ranches, that are no more. Nobody burned them down. What do you mean, what do you want to burn them down, for that matter? They didn't burn down, they just fell in on themselves. And time and entropy took its toll. If today you were to go to demonstrate to somebody that there was a place there, you could show them the foundation, but how could you prove what the place looked like? Now that's just houses. But consider this. Look at the technology on the desk right now where you're sitting. How much of it would survive? What components would survive? What would be there? Think about it. In fact, here's an example right here. Hear that? That's a glass mug. Now that cup probably would survive a good long time if it hit the floor or drop through with the rotted desk or the rotted plastic and eventually lay down the debris below it and it nestles in and gets buried by more debris and leaves and the snows and the leaves and the snows and everything eventually breaks down around it and it would be buried in debris, natural detritus. There's a couple other items here. Now the metals would last a little longer provided that in the meantime while it's sitting there somebody didn't scavenge them to be recycled. or didn't decide that some part that they see sitting here couldn't be used for something else and so it gets carried away and used in that direction. Well, I'm holding in my hand something that's a classic example of this, of what I'm talking about. What would be left and how could you tell anybody what it did? If you didn't understand the technology that was being used at the moment, would you really be able to tell somebody what an artifact was? Could you right now? I mean, think about it. Another thing as far as trying to explain to people technology, let's point something out. Do you think anybody right now is doing a stone carving of your Dell computer? Do you think there's some mosaic right now being done in ceramic tile that shows you as a keyboard operator or some person as a keyboard operator operating a flat screen computer of the day? So if that technology were to be destroyed or were to be shut off first and then eventually just disappear into the dust and the debris of time, How could you prove to somebody that it existed, number one, and how could you prove what it was, even if there was a surviving image, unless you had an explanation? Now I go full circle on this because I'm holding in my hand something that all of you, if you're old enough, used to see thousands and thousands of if you traveled anywhere parallel with a train track. Up on the old telegraph wires, There used to be these myriad of lines, these actual telegraph lines. Do you all remember those guys? Do you remember the days when there used to be 24 or 18 or 32 of these copper wires running from one telephone pole to the next and they ran along the train tracks? How many of you remember those? I do when I was younger, not so much when I was a child, but even into the 70s those lines were still in place. They still have some. And they're still out there. That's right, Mike. Now here's the thing, guys. I'm holding my hands from an old line. Actually, this was made by, now here's the thing, if I had control of the language I could at least get some idea of who made or guesstimate. This is a Hemingray, that's R-A-Y, Hemingray number 12. Green glass insulator and its patent May 2nd 1893. Now probably made a little later than that but not much. About 1895 through 1900 is probably when this was installed and the reason I know this is because where this particular one was found years and years ago, it's bounced around the house at different times. I've had different ones we've had sitting in places and I still got a bunch of them around here but this particular one came from an old train line now long gone. And the only thing you can really, if you really can pay attention to the survey of the land through this very rough area, you can find the old train beds, even though now they have old growth woods on them that's been in place for 60 years. These tracks were up and gone. The tracks already carried away for steel, what, 70 years ago, 80 years ago? The ties themselves finally rotting into the ground somewhere in the 1960s or 70s. The poles left one at a time and washed to the point where they were bare wood and weathered with the snow and with the wind and left in some places as thin as toothpicks. That's not an exaggeration. As the telegraph poles simply rotted in the air and fell to the ground or dropped slowly into the earth, But not all of these insulators were taken. Now people used to take pot shots at them and shoot them. In fact, even on the train tracks, this was a problem years ago. I remember them mentioning it. Because people take a pot shot at an insulator to see how good their marksmanship was. And they got a result. Kipaki blew the insulator out. Now the insulator just simply was a guide for the wire that was on that made up the line. That's all it is. But if you were to look at this, What would you decide it was? Was it attached? Would you even think? to connect it to that kind of technology. Or if you're looking at it from an archaeologist's point of view, could you come up with any one of a number of different excuses? It could have been a religious artifact. You'd be the crown of some special object. It could be, you know, because it obviously has a very coarse thread on the inside. That's because it was on a piece of dowel that was threaded, coarse threaded, and all you did was you screwed down this insulator, and that kept the insulator on the piece of dowel that was locked into a cross beam. that was locked into the telephone pole, the actual in this case, telegraph pole. So wooden dowel? Yeah, wooden dowel. Now guys, this was sitting there in the sand for probably, wow, I don't know, could have been there for 40, 50 years, could have been there for closer to 70, 80 years. And when I found it, there wasn't any wood in it. It was sitting on its side. It was sunken in the sand, which is dominant in our part of the states here, in this part of Michigan. We have a lot of sand dunes and we have a lot of subsurface sand. And it was sitting on its side with some moss growing over, and it's just a glint of blue that I could see when I found this. Otherwise, there would be no physical, tangible evidence to demonstrate that telegraph wire that supported a key man who was at both ends who could go click, click, click, click, click, and all of the other support technology that surrounded it. This little artifact is, this little piece of material is all that survives the entire infrastructure that made up the wiring system that went across the whole of the country. But in and of itself explained to me what it is. In fact, I could see somebody eventually if they found them laying around and people were in need enough, they would figure out how to use it for something else. At the very least it would become, perhaps who knows, a religious artifact. Angle some beads underneath it, screw it on the top of a, let's see, on the top of a staff. and And Patten May 2nd, 1993, this had become a very important witch doctor artifact when the time comes down the road. If nobody knew what the rest of it was about or why there was a little niche in this insulator, and this is where the wire rested by the way, when it was up on the pole. That was actually secured to the pole, that little niche up above. Anyway, that's one area where when you think about it and you go through the whole process, there's all that's left of. The copper wire has been turned in for scrap or rolled up. Some of it just literally rotted on the lines. How many remember that? The lines eventually sag. They were, again, worn by rain, worn by weather, worn by the wind. And eventually some would break and they were just left there because it cost more money to go and send a man to roll the stuff up. than it was worth for the effort because they weren't in the way, it wasn't considered critical. But eventually somebody came along and said, hey, there's a bunch of carpool wire in there. Hey, that's some more beer can money. That's some more beer money for Friday. So eventually it disappeared. Now there's an example of one element of technology as far as understanding or seeing how things, just a perspective, how what I'm talking about when I'm talking about technology and society disappearing. Now here's another one. When I talked about that guy working with the chisel, you know, you know, he's busy, you know chipping stuff out and he's making his little mosaic or he's making his little statuary You know, we're hoping that the guy that was hired was hired to actually do a decent job But let me ask you something guys. How many of you have you how many of you have looked at modern art? Now a lot of modern art made in this century made in this decade or made in the last decade It is absolute goofiness to say the least, but in most cases also mocking primitive design. So it doesn't really express anything that has to do with our day and age. If that became the dominance of the characters, the ones who run the spoof routine for art and architecture, if that became the dominant in, say, an industry, and all of a sudden your society collapsed during that period, How would somebody interpret your society with what they would find that would survive? Junkie sculpture that really is kind of a caricature of the reality of the world. Let's see, inferior materials used rather than the high standards of say earlier ages. Think about it. Oh my goodness. How could somebody reinterpret or rewrite what they perceive as history based upon archaeology? What if somebody came from another planet and was going down the coast and saw all those offshore platforms out there, wondering what they would think that was? Oh, it could be any other number of things. Good point. There again, technology. Hopefully they would interpret it as technology. But it would be interesting to see what somebody might take as a cultural excuse for the cultural activity involved. It could be we're worshipping the black oil god. Well, we are to a degree by doing that. In fact, look at the prices we're paying for the oil god's final refined product. There really is an oil god, isn't there? So the point here is that if we were to look at our technology, when people say, well, it just couldn't happen, how do we know that it hasn't happened before? It just couldn't happen that way. No, really, I would point out. There's a little joke made. Here's an example. This is something that when you watch later movies, there's all this, oh, the fascinating elements of architecture and or archaeology. Guys, there were more than just a few mummies in the Middle East when people started to show up in Egypt and took an interest in the environment. Do you know that mummies were so plentiful they were used as firewood in steam locomotives? There were so many of them available. They were piled so high. There were so many cemeteries and so many graves that had mummies in them that the mummies were stacked literally, literally like cordwood, and used as fuel for the wood burning coffers for the fire boxes. There weren't any trees in Egypt. In fact, there's a little comment about that made in one of the new Mummy movies. It was something when I first watched it, I just watched it the other day here again. It's fascinating because I missed that one the first time, but it was something that made the comment, yeah, you would be a Mummy, yeah, yeah, and eventually you'd be fuel for a train, fuel for a steam engine. That was not a joke. per se. That was in reality what happened to most of the mummies that were readily available and literally were eventually stacked like cordwood and then used for debris. So, show me again or explain to me how it is that we can prove that societies haven't gone full cycle and then work their way back into the ash, which is as likely as not. We are seeing an example of that right now. Most of it has to do with the social engineers and their mislaid or again, ill-conceived plans, which I don't believe this is the first time. I think they've done this several times. Socialism is designed to destroy society and to destroy effort and to destroy motivation. Again, look what gravitates to the top. Look at the feces and waste that shows up running the Soviet socialist system. Take a look at what's happening this time around at the waste, debris, and feces that are gravitating towards this socialist-slash-Soviet socialist system. It should not be a surprise. It's the same game all over again. So if that does happen, the lack of motivation, lack of inspiration, a combination of that, and then lack of production would dictate that we would drop back off into the other world within a very short period of time, and it wouldn't take long at all. So if this is going to be preserved, if we're going to do anything to make things last people, don't look for it from the corporations or any of these businesses or any of these people down the road. Go look in the mirror. If you want to know who's going to come up with the solutions, it's going to be us. The bad guys, all they're going to do is continue to fumble the ball and then try to play parasite with us. On our side, we're going to get rid of the parasites. Get on with building and then do our own thing and that's really one of the things I wanted to just kind of hopefully paint a picture and doing this on the radio that would help to make you think because Whenever I touch pieces of history like this, it's fascinating that this was a small item. That's about four and a half inches tall About three inches in diameter made out of green glass. It's insulated. I mean, it's actually tempered glass And the quality to even make this as a standard production item for most countries is difficult at best and impossible for many. Just this simple technology right here. We're not talking about the speakers that are on the computer here. I'm not even talking about something as simple as the aerosol can that the Gibbs is into my left ear that's sitting on the table. And don't even think about just a simple ballpoint pen or a pencil. People don't even think about what goes into making nothing more than a simple pencil. In fact, there are about seven countries involved just in that. I understand the concept of foreign trade and how it works and the integration of a world economy that has already been in place for as long as man has been in place. But the sovereignty issue that is tied into it dictates that if you wish to be free, it is at the closest local level where that freedom will be maintained. The farther government gets away from you, the farther industry gets away from you, the more likely that chicanery and betrayal and falsehoods will be developed. to promote individuals who have nothing to do with your common liberty, interest, and your overall safety. And that's why we're seeing the situation we are with the economy, again with what's happening to America, and why it is we need to come up with solutions. And that gets into the manufacturing issue. So I just want you to think, step back and think for a minute when you look at what's laying around you, what it would take or what it does take to develop that technology. Okay. Any case, I thought she would like to have a stock market report after we've gone through a three day banking holiday. Everybody wants to play on the New York Stock Exchange. Well, well, they pumped it up today. Can you imagine that? Pump, pump, pump. It's like those guys out there with that football thing you were talking about grinding down the tip and just standing there and just pump, pump, pump. in the past hour, yeah, put some more air in it. Well, they flated it back up to about where it was, not quite, but almost where it was two weeks ago. It went up 196.17 today, closing at Dow Jones Industrial at 8,473.49 points. Silver's up 12 cents from last week, closing at $14.61. Gold went down $1.40 closing at $952.10 Crude oil It took a big jump and it's at $62.45 and gasoline at the pump has gone up in the last two weeks. It's over $0.35 a gallon and it's now at $2.53 a gallon at the pump here in Rochester, New York. Wonderful. Though something else took a big hit today, copper jumped $0.08 a pound closing at $2.11. Nickel. took a big jump 56 cents today closing at $6.03 aluminum is up a penny at $0.64 zinc is up 2 cents at $0.67 and lead is up 2 cents at $0.65 uranium unchanged well that's what's happened on the stock market exchange isn't that lovely 56 cents today marks $6 a pound for nickel That's a dollar and a half where it was a month ago. Yes. I get the feeling George is there and he hasn't muted his phone. His kids are talking. All right. We got George in the background there? I had something else I wanted to go. George, cover your microphone. There we go. We're good. Go ahead. Okay. Yeah. I don't know if you saw this, but last Friday you had a police shooting in your area, indeed down in the Detroit way. Did you read that one in Allen Park? Oh, don't worry, we have that kind of happen all the time. They're either robbing banks Robbing liquor store, oh, I mean the cops and or they get involved in other problems. Well this particular one the newspaper I've read two different newspaper articles on it One of them doesn't even mention the man's name. It just says that a police officer was shot down in Allen Park, Michigan with a standoff with a man, but it doesn't give the guy's name and Neither of them really tell you what the background is, but I know what the purpose was This is a home foreclosure. You have a disgruntled property owner who made up his mind that he wasn't going to be evicted from his long time home. In one article he did say that he had his own garden and he liked to work in the garden and he smoked cigars. He had no criminal record whatsoever and it does give the man's name. Mark Fuschner, F-U-S-S-N-A-N-E-R, 45 years old. Alan Park, he refused to accept an eviction notice and he met the police with a shotgun and he opened fire on them. After a five hour shootout with the police, a sniper put a bullet between his eyes. All a man had was two shotguns and a knife. Oh well, keep stealing houses people. Just keep stealing everybody's homes for the banksters and fat in the banksters. And the cop only was wounded. But again, here you are again, stealing people's property. And you and I know that most of these foreclosures are totally bogus. But a man's dead, defending his home, or defending his castle, not knowing what else to do. Well, again, we don't have the name of the police, the police officer that we shot. Yeah, one of the articles here did name the officer. Oh, don't worry about that. I'm just curious if it was one of the characters that's on the long list of having caused problems for some other people too. I'd be curious about that. No, I don't see the name of the officer. I thought I saw it here. Talked about the officer's lieutenant was telling about it. No, it doesn't give the officer's name. Oh, my goodness. It says he was shot in the arm. We'll get more information on that shortly then. I am amazed, I don't see the officer's name anywhere in this report. It just says he was taken to hospital with a wound to the arm. That's sad because there you are again, a man trying to defend his own, he's all alone. Where was his help? Wasn't there somebody there to help him out? Maybe we could get this thing on instead of us just keep talking about it. Well, part of the problem too though is again how many people are making the effort to connect with others. I know there's no excuse. There not. Well, there are. It's not that they aren't, it's that we need to make a greater effort. What we've said before is we have a lot of people out there making the effort, but we need to try and seek these people out. Remember, it could be a neighbor just a block or two away from where you're sitting right now that may just need to be linked with someone, just need to be connected. Once that happens, then they've got the database they need. The other part about this is we don't want to, again, in a situation where we need the troops, That person is a convert once they understand what the threat is and even if we did lose the property over whatever the Ideally is to get the person out of the area dump the piece of real estate and shift the person to where they will be connected with others who are of like mind a person who's been recently burned on the stove is a highly motivated in highly motivated individual to say the least That's how we need to be thinking this through in other words. It cannot be piecemeal example, Lexington and Concord. The Patriots did centralize. Con trail is BS where people do the, well, obviously if they pick you in one place and you're by yourself they might kill you. So take your pick and figure out under the average situation which might be safer. People of like mind who are able to respond immediately because again when you can look out your window and see what's happening there's no lag time. So the cowardice issue about we can't all be centralized. We don't have to all be centralized, but we need to be closer together. And again, pick areas of real estate that you choose to control and start focusing and organizing accordingly. The beautiful part is with the economy the way it is, there are whole communities that are up for sale right now, guys. Whole communities, almost the whole town. You can walk in and literally take it over comfortably. And anybody you want in office, well, you're the only people voting. Duh, you get my drift so there's a whole bunch of things that can be settled here another thing is positive action And I'm going to say something about that too. We all have people lamenting and complaining about how the system runs How many of you have taken the time to plug in our system and show how it works? See how that works? That's another issue. He's been taken care of I just hated to see that somebody else gets whacked trying to defend their rights all by themselves. Well, that's because again, we've made every effort we can. Every day we connect with more people. Everybody needs to redouble their effort yet again. That's what needs to happen. And there's an example of why we need to have it happen. That's another soldier we needed in our ranks. Obviously he's highly motivated. Again, a person who has been burned by the machine is a much more reliable soldier because they realize the threat, they have seen it firsthand, and they are more resolute in their actions. They're not lukewarm, they're not milk toast, they're firebrands. We just don't want them to be firebrands on their own and lost like that. It's like the guy that built the bulldozer out west. It's a great story and it was great that, you know, it's interesting to watch. But that man was a skilled tradesman we needed in our combat arms. We did not need him dying that way in a simple little incident like that. Certainly he squashed the bejesus out of the enemy on the other side as far as their property goes and they were all steamed and they were all fuming and they wanted him dead and this and that and the other but he made a point of not killing anybody. He just made sure that he made it painful for them economically and they really, really, really didn't like that. Oh well. So, imagine if you do that compounded times 20, 30, 40, 50, 100, 1000, 10,000, oh, how about a million people, how about several million people, all realizing that they can connect like this and all of them with a common goal. That is a force. That's what our goal is. That's where we need to go. I'm sorry Dave, go ahead. It sure is. Also too, and then I'll get out of here, I think we've mentioned it before, the gallant, Detroit Nancy, who's been in fighting these foreclosure for a long time, she's still got one house they're trying to take from her that they haven't been successful. They issued a warrant for her arrest about three weeks ago. It started out with a $5,000, then it jumped to $25,000, then it jumped to $30,000, then it went to $100,000, then it went to a quarter of a million. They now have a $500,000 reward on her head. Bounty hunters are looking all over the place in the Detroit area trying to find her. Again, all over her foreclosure because she has been fighting these morons. The bounty hunter broke into her house a week ago and they stole two computer hard drives. They stole her husband's briefcase, her cell phone and a couple other items were taken and they just happened to leave her a copy of the warrant for her arrest. It's all because she's willing to fight these people in court. However, the federal court on Thursday has denied her petition. It means she now goes to the Supreme Court of the United States for this foreclosure action, which will be probably the first one to get there from Michigan. And that should be interesting to see what the Supreme Court of the United States has got to say in regards to illegal foreclosures in Michigan. Well, I remember with Michigan, with Supreme Court filings now, they have to be in book format. There's a whole very specific, and they're doing this intentionally to try and harass pro se filing. Right. You have to put them in a binder, in a folder, and all bound with a plastic cover and all that godly goog. I think you have to file 12 copies of your petition with the court. Right. In fact, the only thing I think they don't understand is, and of course Well, there's a bunch of other criteria they've had set up where they've been, you know, to try and restrict or damage anybody from doing, you know, filings to try and slow down their workload because a lot of people have become as good at playing witch doctor as the witch doctors. So, they've had to change their witch doctories with regard to guidelines for what bone you wear in the nose and what grass skirts you put on for that moment and whether or not you have the ear necklace or the nose necklace that you have to wear when you dance around on one leg and rub your belly and pass your head. And the cost of the Supreme Court now, by the time you hit the transcripts and certified record over to them, and the filing fees, you're looking at at least a grand, $1,200 bucks, just to file the paperwork. Right, and again, that depends on the resources, but you can cut corners in other areas too. And they're trying to make it so that only the rich can even afford to pay to go there. Right, royalty court. Royalty is all it is. Rich people have rights, and the rest of us, oh well, you just do what the cops tell you to do or we'll kill you. I'm out of here. George can have the phone. I think we have at least George. You might have another caller. George, whoever is next, who do we have? George. Bye bye. Thank you, Dan. Go ahead, George. Yeah, I got in a debate with a fellow Cherokee Indian since I'm half. And we were talking about Andrew Jackson. And this is the only thing I was sitting there coming across. I was sitting there analyzing a little bit of history. Andrew Jackson, I think, invaded Florida and threw the Spanish and the English out. I think Andrew Jackson went into Florida and invaded Florida because the British agents, aka with the Banksters behind, were sitting there harassing the settlers or raiding the settlers on the frontier. Now, which one are you talking about with Jackson? Are you talking about as President? Now when he was the general right when he was general in the Gulf Gulf of Mexico campaign He went all the way to Florida Yeah, and the reason he did that is for that very reason the British were already very active They were what he was trying to do is set up a screen to identify where the British would land their ground forces when they decided to you know, shore their troops and For that reason understanding that there was a passive attitude on the part of the Spanish with regard to Florida in the area especially where he swept across the Gulf the way that he did, it was very apparent that they had every intention of landing in more than one place initially. Or at the very least they could land and then they could march just as easily west as Jackson marched east. So his logic was to set up a series of tripwire bases that one way or another would allow him to identify where along with Gulf they landed. And it was for that reason that the British were technically forced to just choose for the primary target, which was to go straight at New Orleans from the outer districts, which is what they did. So he didn't have a choice. The Brits were in direct cooperation, were being cooperative and vice versa with the Spanish forces on the ground. Even though it was Spanish real estate, it was loosely controlled. Spain was of course having all kinds of financial problems at the time. And there was always another part about this is that during the Napoleonic War period, the alliances flip-flopped back and forth and all around at one time or another. And either Spain was again being occupied by France Spain was directly involved, of course that was the peninsula campaign where first the Spanish and the French were fighting and then eventually France occupied to a degree Spain, also Italy. They also got the Austrians to capitulate for a period of time and then the Austrians reorganized and came back again. So that's the biggest problem with the turmoil of that period during the War of 1812 is that you have some of the well example here's the other thing example At the time when the War of 1812, well actually it was 1814 when the Battle of New Orleans takes place, remember they always say, well the war was technically over, yeah well nobody got there with a message and everybody as far as they were concerned was very much in the middle of the war still. The forces that landed at New Orleans were units that had just been involved in campaigns against Napoleon. And so there were some of the elite forces available, some of the best. They had been just recently reorganized. They had brand new weapon systems. They were just trying to figure out where to fight. And Andrew Jackson made a point of not giving them very many options. That was his primary concern. Understanding he was given a tenuous command at best, almost all militia, which was the good thing. His militia forces stuck with him, plus he organized more militia and still had regular forces under his command. But the regulars were the minority. In fact, they were the ultimate extreme minority over the militia. Well Mark, fast forward to when Jackson was president. You heard about the Cherokee Trail of Tears. Could he make the same thing that British agents were talking with the Cherokee Indians and Andrew Jackson sits there and goes, I ain't having this problem again and just shipped them off somewhere. Well, one of the problems with the close frontier, we always think west, we think far west, west of the Mississippi, is that yes, you had a whole series, not just the British, you had the French coming in again to the picture, you had Spanish interests in different forms, constantly at odds, coming into the Central America, not so much North America, but trying to influence and manipulate or assist in the manipulation of Mexico. Which, of course, by then was an established power. Again, not looking at it in a vacuum, whatever was happening up in the Mississippi and in the western states of the day, the British, the French, and the Spanish all had their active agents participant in that area. The Indian nations themselves, be it the Cherokee, be it the Ohio tribes, the Ottawa, the Chippewa, you had the Mohawk nations all the way up through New York, but all the way to Ontario, each had ambitions of their own, not only against the colonies, but against each other. That's one of the parts of the formula they keep leaving out is when you look at the, I was just watching something here yesterday that I had to, you know, it's fun to watch but to understand the history of the Native Americans, understand Oki and what Oki is. If you understand Oki and the nature of Oki and the pain god so to speak, in that since the world is pain, you must inflict pain on somebody else so the pain will not come back on you. Torture was in the vocabulary of all of the Indian nations. Maybe the Cherokee were a little nicer in some ways, but if you understand the nature of tribe to tribe warfare, It was rubbed off when they pointed at the white population and for that reason there was a great deal of animosity right from the beginning that was well studied. So it's not a one-sided issue here. Torture and the very nature and the art of torture with the Indian tribes was very deep and very long in development. It was something that a lot of people, it became a cultural conflict thing, having been hit by it perhaps with the way that tribes warred against tribes. It became a real distress issue when it was the tribes did what they did to the white settlers what they did to each other on a regular basis. That's part of the formula whenever they do these writings that they leave out. There's one thing I want to point out. There's one movie and it's amazing it's one of Bert Lancaster, I know, oh my, we're going to open a can of worms here. Bert Lancaster did a lot of unusual movies that were political statement movies but they were very honest in many ways. Go Tell It to the Spartans was one that is an obscure piece from the Vietnam era, doesn't get any play anymore and it's an interesting piece. The Swimmer is another one. Well there's another movie he did where he's an old cavalry soldier, cavalry officer. A band of native of the Apache come off the reservation and they are in a tube and they are going to go out and do what they want to do. It is one of the few movies where they actually depict the conflict or shall we say the communications issue between the two cultures. It actually shows more of what real life, say far western interactivity was like. One of the things is to actually get to the point where this one settler, he sends his wife and his son back to the base, back to the fort with a couple of the soldiers, and he ends up being butchered. He ends up being attacked, and he can defend himself fairly well, but they trick him out. Then they have their way with him for a long time. Well, another thing that it depicts is the husband or the wife and the son are going back with one of the soldiers and actually a couple of the soldiers. And what happens is he realizes something's going on, the one scout that's with him, the one trooper. And the guy that's on the wagon is shot, the woman's by herself, and the boy's off to the side. And the woman is screaming at the soldier, you know, don't leave me, don't leave me. And the first thing that he does is he shoots the woman on the wagon. She's a white woman. He shoots her on the wagon and then he turns and grabs the kid, throws him on his horse and starts to try and run from the natives, from the Indians. Now why did he do that? Why did he shoot the woman on the wagon? I don't know. Because it would have been a far worse death had she been caught what they would plan on doing to her. It was a very accurate depiction of the reality of survival in the situation where the poor, tribes were facing off against the whites. But here's the thing, when I say that they did this to the whites, they say the settlers, because we had black settlers out there too. Hell, I was stationed where the Buffalo Chip soldiers were, we call it Buffalo Soldier, but the Buffalo Soldiers were out there, and they were black cavalry. In other words, cultural conflict here. But what they did with the whites, with the settlers, They also did to each other every day. There's no rosy picture. It may all be like dances with wolves. Notice something. White people use the toilet. Indian people don't. Did you notice that? Ever watch the movie Dances with Wolves? Yep. Whenever possible, you show the white population, let's see, using the toilet, picking their nose. But never do you see an Indian outhouse during all the teepee scenes. Did you notice that? Probably out TP or something. Well, yeah, there you go. Did you see any of the scenes where they I mean again, this is a matter of propaganda Did you since they showed a white guy, you know using the toilet in the in the old reeds next to the string next to the pond there? Did they show one of the Indians sitting there squatting over a log using a piece of deer leather for you know to wipe his or her butt as just a funny scene? Haha They didn't did they? So you've got to ask about basic propaganda and what its agenda is and what's being plugged in. Again, this is balance. Understanding the nature of the belief of the societies that you're facing, unfortunately if they don't adjust, and again the native populations didn't, a good portion of them before the white guys got here, before the evil European settlers got here, well as one of the old traders used to say, the greatest enemy to the native tribes was the native tribes. Well, you know, Jackson killed a bank and I think the English were trying to start a war. Oh, absolutely. They were constantly trying to create conflict in all of the frontiers simultaneously. And this is something a lot of people don't want to, you know, don't want to tell. Well, of course, the controlled bankers are going to re-engineer the story about the period anywhere, try to. There were so many assassination attempts on Jackson's life. It had to do with his personal position as president, but it was not personal as in like duels or whatever, although he was more than used to that situation. These were political assassination attempts because of his stand on being an American as opposed to the globalist agenda or again the crown's agenda out of England. If they could whip up trouble in the Canadian frontier, or if they could whip up trouble on the Western frontier, they did what they could accordingly. That's one of the many sub elements of the history of that period of time that they don't want to talk about. Again, it's been written out. The way I do this, George, is go back to the books written in the period. Many of them are unabashed, they are very straightforward, they talk about many of the political points of the day, but it's the nuances and the little pieces that are just dropped in as second thought. In other words, oh yeah, and everybody knows that, for instance, this book, I got it on my left, my right hand side here, it's on the President. Okay, the President of the United States up until Teddy Roosevelt. The history about Washington and in the middle of it, it talks about Alexander Hamilton being stoned from town. Now not figuratively, in reality, stoned out of town. Now it's done as a second thought. In other words, everybody knows that Alexander Hamilton was stoned out of town and it's like, what? And when you look at that, then you have to go, wait a minute, okay, now this fits with a lot of other bits and pieces of information we've had to piece together from other factual statements. Now this gets me into another question about the reality of certain elements and factions and how truthful people really were, or if they were cognizant and knowledgeable of what they were looking at. And again, when people say, oh, that's just crazy about, you know, like that there were whole groups of people who understood the threat of their day. I would challenge that, where are you going to go to find out about the Patriot Movement, which is incredibly large? You can't go to the controlled media, they refuse to report anything. They'll talk about four guys in a rubber boat off the coast of Somalia, 300 miles from shore, before they'll talk about the reality of what truly is facing the American patriots here in the United States and the many good men and women who are part of the Patriot effort. You see how that works? So as far as finding the truth or the other, the whole of the picture, unless we create this history now and keep it recorded and preserve it, it's what's around me right now. I'm going through files. I'm trying to refile, or not refile, trying to file all the additional data physically that I've got coming in. This is going to take me another two hours just to catch up with what it is I've had to stack up off to the side. I have filing cabinet after filing cabinet after filing cabinet of documents, but there's a reason I do this. When somebody says, oh I don't think, I say, okay wait right here, let me show you and I'll make you think. And I can walk right over to a file and I can take and give you the historical document step by step to demonstrate the many elements that are the minutae that make up an event in the whole. It's like when we talk about Oklahoma City, we talk about 9-11, but there's a lot of other activities in between. that led up to those pimple events to that point where the postulating conflict escalates to its highest degree and we're on the edge of a conflict or a war, not external but internal. And that's really how I look at it. The amount of detritus and material builds up, the bad guys can't try to get away with more and more. We beat them down, cause more damaged tissue, and eventually it gets to the point, well, either urinate or get off the pot, as they say. So, and that's all the way back from going through the Jackson period or any other period of history to present. And I don't like to keep an askew with one side. There's the apologist side with, oh, look what happened to the native population. Well, you know what? The native population, in many cases, uh-oh, I hear more munchkins there. The native population, they understand a lot of history too. And I look at that with, you know, again, the askewness or the angle is a very dangerous thing. I could get into a whole bit of just about the history before the colonies, actually before the colonies expanded from just the coast, and very accurate documentation that was done as neutral reporting on the nature of the interaction between the tribes and how they fought. We had cannibals here in Michigan. I mean, we had cannibals up in Mackinac. There's a cave that's called the Cave of Skulls. And if you were traveling, for instance, across the Straits of Mackinac, I'll tell you what George, no matter who you were, white or Indian, you better paddle fast. You get my drift? Yes. You better paddle fast because if you were slow at paddling in that war canoe, well they caught up with you and somebody got a chance to eat some long pig that night. Well you know the thing is about what the tale of William Bradford, you know when Squanto and Samus had approached them, they were more like trying to seek an alliance with the local tribes because of warring factions with the other tribes. Exactly. And so again, all it was was all they looked at it as is another another opportunity to create some form of superiority on the battlefield in a temporary treaty that eventually they felt they could overturn. And again, that when we get into the whole issue of what happened with the Cherokee, what happened with the Cheyenne and others, and again, part of it is knowing the history. They had specific control of areas, but they also expanded in others. They didn't just stay in one place. And again, there were defensive actions and offensive actions on both sides. And it was ambition. Now, of course, the population expansion west is obvious and it's the nature of the beast and where it went. Just as easily they would have been whooping at the war party tomorrow and would still be dancing around the fire if we'd been contained in the colonies or if we'd been contained east of the Mississippi. And they'd be, well of course, who knows, we wouldn't have the history we have right now and they wouldn't have blue jeans. Oops, kind of innovation there. A little better than wearing rusty leather day after day to get my drift. Anyway. Go ahead. No, I was going to say, go right ahead please. There's a whole, you're talking a whole wide panorama here. That could take lots of time and I'd love to take callers on the subject too for that reason because There's a lot of things that would have to be discussed and would have to be put into question, not the least of which is again, the conflict in the societies was not as soft and warm and fuzzy as everybody thinks. And the native populations had some very, very specific, albeit couched in mist or in fog, specific practices that did not enamor themselves to anybody, not the least of which is even fellow tribes. And that worked both ways. Vendetta was just as alive and well here in the Indian nations as it was with the Italian Mafias and the Italian Princeton's of the Renaissance. No, not at all. I'm fascinated because of misconceptions only in that understand that for instance like many of the societies had architecture, had structural design, they fortified, they had forts, the thing that we call forts today were already a custom and standard with the Indian nations. There were technologies that they developed that were unique to the Indian nations or unique to North America that are not reinforced or talked about. And again, when you talk about the area, oh, I hear the music. Look at the area where the Ohio and the Mississippi come together. That area is called Little Egypt. Memphis, Tennessee. Take a map of Egypt. Take a map of that area. Lay one on top of the other. And you tell me who did what. There's a lot more with regard to the ring knockers and what they were doing there in that particular area that affected many of the Indian nations. Much more than just simply natural progression west. We've got to let you go George. Go King to King Geeble. Boo-rah, thank you. We've got to go ladies and gentlemen, we will be back at 8 o'clock. God bless Republic, depth of new world order, we shall prevail. The Empire is on the run, we're on the march. God bless, we'll be back at 8. Ed's taken over with programming for the next hour and we'll see you here on Liberty Street. and we have a son, yes we have a son, the sons of liberty, save the tongue, the storm boy, oops the tea, and the sun will always shine, oh. 8-0-1-7-9, that's 8-7-7-6-0-8-0-1-7-9, call today. On the battlefields of the day and into the future, regimental combat teams of the colonial marines are serving America. 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