For future generations this legacy we gave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent, although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God-given right. And pray to God to keep the torture of freedom burning bright. As I awoke he'd vanished in the mist for once he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each god-given rite, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Dilled the land of the free. Well, good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. This is the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Kornke. And I'm Donald Fetcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, Central, Southwest, East and North. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we are on live 365, then go to Liberty Tree Radio. You will also find us on AM&FM microstations, CB base stations, and UltraNet technologies. both east and west of the Mississippi along with southern and central Alaska and the Aleutian Islands, over there in the lower left-hand corner. Also on the Hallmark Network, a colonial state on the eastern seaboard and expanding into other areas even as we speak. Golden Spike Project, southeastern Ohio coming up here where all three of the biggest of the subnets are going to be plugged in. And then what's going to happen is we're going to have the rest of the country covered progressively, but we'll have most of the connections in place if they shut off the internet. They will be shutting off and cutting off their nose to spite their face. And they're ugly anyways, we don't care. So anyway, Don, today's date is... Alright you guys, it is the 21st day of May, just past 5 here on the east coast, but it is the 21st day of May, 2009, and it's five and a half minutes. Looking for the phone number. I think you go over to pro. Got it back here on my notes somewhere on an individual page. I didn't categorize it. So I'm failing you guys in that instance. I'm sorry but the 701 phone number is a high for addresses and but a phone number. You didn't fail. We just the filing system is off a little. That's all. I was hoping you'd save me some trouble. Oh man. I got the same problem here. I've been so busy today. Forgive me. But I mean we've been run run run right up until doing the program here. until the minute before, but a lot of good work getting accomplished. However, just more projects in that care to count. Another interesting thing here about detail, and this is on kind of like, when I go through stuff, I find, I got a book, by the way, I mentioned this yesterday, but I got a book out of the collection of books that we salvaged from this auction. People didn't get any of the books. They didn't pick the books up. They didn't bother to look past what was on top. Their mistake, our benefit. In fact, it's a good thing if they'd Grab the other boxes otherwise and this book probably still would have been cast away because most people wouldn't know what the value of it was but it's a first printing of one of H.G. Wells social science books, social engineering books. And I'm going to be going through this progressively. Now a little mouse over the ages got hold of the upper back corner but as soon as he started nibbling on the words of the demon I think he just keeled over like an Indiana Jones and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah We saved the book and many others actually over 100 years old and a couple of them about 130 to 140 years old. That's typical. You're out in the country here. People have picked up stuff from other old farmhouses and other projects or their teachers from the past. Get my drift. Sometimes even fellow travelers with ring knockers. You can capture all kinds of things, but in a little different direction. In the bottom of one of these boxes, I got a little pen knife. When you say pen knife, most people may or may not be able to relate to that, but traditionally you carry several different types of knives. You had a box slash utility knife that was like a Barlow, which is a little bigger. It's a medium-sized blade, about 3.5 inches, nice little utility working for cutting wood. snipping a wire or cutting a piece of rope or whatever. But a pen knife served a different purpose. Although it was used for whittling to a degree, its primary purpose was maintenance. In other words, if you had a little etched something or if you had to work on cleaning your fingernails or if you had to work on something that was small, that's what a pen knife was for. Now I bring this up in qualified because some of you may have never heard that term pen knife. And if you do, sometimes it's misinterpreted because people aren't. I'm not necessarily familiar with the knife industry and how it's worked. Well, I found a little pen knife, blue body, nothing fancy, but it's amazing. I'm just looking at the quality of this little blade, and it's only about an inch and a half long carbon steel. Well, I won't even say it can't be 41.4. It's got to be something earlier than that. But it's a high carbon steel, very, very nice edge for as long as it's obviously been sitting there because the papers around it date back to what, 1971, the last time that box was moved. Wow. And the blade is excellent and the body of course is used. It's obvious this was somebody's knife because it's also lost a little bit of the edge as it's been cleaned and honed. I can see, but I can't see, the actual strike marks for who made this on the blade. It's so fine, I'm going to have to break out a magnifying glass, but the quality of the etching with regard to however this was done, stamped, or whatever, is such that it is so crisp, there's no doubt the numbers. I can almost make out a 1-4. There is also a name there. It is just the nature of looking at something as simple as this but American made. The difference in the quality, the feel, the fit, and the condition of the material, how it lasts, is totally different from the stuff that we are now used to from overseas. I kind of warn people about that. Don't throw away old. By the way, the most common mistake made with people who collect World War II stuff. They look at a lot of the knives, and even this little knife here is from that period or before. Probably this particular knife is from the 30s, but what I can tell. In the beginning of World War II, we didn't have enough fighting knives. We put a lot of people in uniform in 1941 and 1942, didn't we? Oh yes, they were lining up. And because of that, well, even though you know the K-Bar today, that wasn't really available in any good numbers, guys. The K-Bar didn't come in quantities until a little later on. It became one of the, it was a design that was one of the industry standard custom knives originally. Camelus is one of the several that made that. But, there are literally hundreds of other combat knives that were official combat knives in 1941-42. Why? Well, we were sending hundreds of thousands of young men and the Marines and Army overseas and into the swamps and off to the desert, and we just couldn't make enough. So what they did is they put out the call to all the custom knife makers of the United States. No matter how big, no matter how small, and they laid down the basic specs for the knife. Now, each of these men could use his own flourish or his own style with regard to how he set the blade. There were certain minimal requirements for the pitch, for instance, for the back strap cut, you know, the back strap edge, which is really guys what that's supposed to be. You have the long edge in the front, but the back arch that comes up to make that little bow point That is supposed to be sharpened also. Now some are chiseled, some are tapered, some are scimitar, and that varies. However guys, when you see a knife that typically has a leather stack for a grip, or has some form of leather grip system for it, you better grab that knife and hang on to it. And by the way, don't get rid of the ratty, tired looking leather sheath that it's in. Now you know you can tell old leather. Typically both the sheath and That's where we dumped a lot of men really fast. That's where we were fighting soonest. Yup. And because of that, when the guys came back, you've got to remember that knife went with them everywhere. In many cases, to be quite honest, that knife probably killed a Japanese soldier or two at one time or another because the Japanese like to get close. If that man was in Guadalcanal in the beginning of the war, he got really close to the Japanese both ways. They got close to him and he made a point of hunting them down and getting close to them too. It came down to hand to hand brawls in many cases. The last rifle round meant that the bayonet and the fighting knife are what kept you alive. You have a big chunk of history there in many cases just because it doesn't look pretty. Yes, it may even have an alloy base or basically pommel slash skull crusher base. You've got to be careful there because sometimes they use what looks almost like a zinc material. It is a matted metal, does not take any other finish, does not look pretty, but these were built by the knife custom makers of the day that everybody would recognize back then. Some of them are long gone. The guy only made, say, 1200 or 2000 of those knives because it took him so long to make each blade and he did not change his standards. So you are looking at really not a pretty knife, but in most cases also a very durable knife. If you are the proud possessor of something like that, grandpa might even have given you his knife at one time and then you think, man this thing doesn't look very good. Understand that if he has that blade in hand, he got that at a time when our country was desperate. The man who carried it was fighting truly to keep the enemy at bay. and that's exactly what these were. They'll be many styles. They look almost like hunting knives because the guys who built them built hunting knives. But hunting knives and fighting knives are pretty much the same. Mr. Barr, when you've got to stick him, you've got to stick him the same way. It's actually got to get a little deeper. I heard a beat. Now, we may have a caller. Who do we have? You have Spike from Indiana. Oh, right. We've got Spike. We've got Vince Graver hopefully calling in here a little bit too. So if he's listening in the background, then just be patient for a minute and Spike, jump in there. I know you've got something for us. This will be quick and painless. I'm the proud owner of quite a few. It was like General Grievous and had all the zaas. I don't know if you can hear this one or not. This one I'm kind of curious if you've ever seen one. It says US Warrior. I kind of got an alloy body. It's a gray, neat 130 steel blade. That high steel. Yeah, I've seen them. It's been a while actually. I don't know if those things came out about, or at least the last production one that I saw was somewhere around 1991 maybe. It has a little notch in the end of it here. Somebody would have thought of going down the line and slide down. You mean like a hook on the base where the pummel or the back of the grip? Yeah. Well, my only problem is that the phone is okay, but let me point something out. I would want to slide down the grip. I was going to say, if I can get my grip, I'd probably lose my fingers. and The reason I called though, to get this out real quick, was I had the information Don was looking for. There we go. But, Buckshot's website is www.sneezes.com. 3w sneezes.com. Dakota Telephone? Could be. Probably, I'd be willing to bet. Or, let's see, Dakota Telecommunications. Well, I appreciate that. Go ahead and give those numbers out. You'll give the addresses out a couple more times. That way, the person who's been waiting for this now has all of the information he requested today. OK. No problem, sir. www.snare-traps.com. 3 Ws. That's once again is... We might have, I think we might have our guest caller. Who do we have waiting on the wings there? And then greetings, Mark and Don, this is Lance from Oregon. Hey, now I tell you what. We've had a lot of people, Don, that have been noticing that YouTube has been getting a little persnickety with regard to maintaining the standard with regard to real openness and fairness with regard to posting videos. Vince, you've got an idea that's already plugged in, don't you? Yes, sir. I do. A video sharing site is called ViewFlex.com. It's based on the same idea and principle as YouTube when they first started, but it's not centered like they do on YouTube. It's another venue to have people to upload their videos. and then be able to, once they've uploaded to that site, they can take the metatags and put them on other sites. If they just take the metatags from YouTube and put them on ViewFlex, if they pull that account, that video disappears. This is another venue for people to upload videos and put the truth out without that video disappearing. Very good. The advantage here, again, if anybody wants to check out the site, first of all, go ahead and give that out three more times slowly so that everybody knows where to go. Yes, the name of the website is ViewFlix and again it's you as a victor, you as an umbrella, he as an echo, Flix, F-L-I-X dot com. It also has, you can make a profile, you can subscribe to channels, so if you're like a radio show person with yourself, you can make your own channel, feed through people, have fun, I'd book it for, The community, so you guys are in the driving seat, you drive this vehicle where you want to drive it. I'm just the builder of the site, so you guys drive it, have fun, get the information out as long as I own the site and we'll continue to be run on the principles and truths about censorship. Excellent. And we're looking at working together on this progressively so that we'll do some banner sharing and other work. And we hope that there's other... other people out there that want to do some banner sharing. I have a banner page on the front page. It will say Promote us, a little red button. Just click that. It will take you right over to the banner page. All you have to do is copy the HTML and everything is done for you. Just put on your blog or put on your web page or something. If you are looking to build an exchange with me, just once you've made an account, email the admin and I will respond right away. Excellent. Again, this gives everybody a chance to plug in any other videos that they wish to post or that they may want to use this as an excellent backup just in case all of a sudden YouTube does a purge. First they could claim that it was accidental and eventually acknowledge it was intentional, but either way you might lose the videos and not be able to deal with backups or may not have a backup depending on how you're doing your video. So this is another system where it's posted. And that Google video is going to go to the website here too. So all the videos that have been uploaded to Google video are going to disappear sometime in the future. Well now that's a big error. As of right now, Google is not allowing any new uploaded videos to Google video. Now that's interesting. Was there any explanation for why they were discontinuing that? They are going to another format. They want to go to more like AI software for internet stuff. We are going to see how that develops. Where that goes and where the censoring goes with that too, possibly. If they plug the new system. Google does own YouTube and ADL has also got their fingers in YouTube too. Right. They have three controlling fingers on one thing and they can say, well you know. I don't like that video so out it goes and I don't care. And so this is another direction and again one of the other things you did if you look at the design everybody will be pretty much familiar with the design pattern for the page won't they? Yes, yes because when I was on the site I went on recalling of how I remembered YouTube was when it first started back in like 2005 and I built it on that principle. Nice, clean, keep it simple, stupid. That's exactly the format that we're seeing right now. So you have everything squared away, ready to go? And I don't plan everything is squared away, ready to go. We will be running more contests in the future. We run contests every quarter, which is every three months, depending on which one we do. We also have a forum. We can suggest contests if you would like to have participated to a contest in the future. We have a forum section there. Just click on the forum tabs on the top of the header. Take you right down into the forum section. As of right now you have to sign up for the forums and Buplex, but down the line I will be incorporating that to once you have an account of Buplex you won't have to re-enter a password for the forums or the blogs or anything else. Excellent. Don, are you still there? Well, Don had to take off on us for a little bit. I just want to check to make sure. Now, another thing here is that if anybody wants to get hold of you to email you about this, do you have any other preferred point where you want people to log on or where should they go? Yeah, or you can email me at admin at newflix.com. or you can make a sign up for an account. Once you've signed up for an account, you can email me. Write something straight for me. We have a page over there that has questions and comments. It's got a little pull down tab with many choices. We just click on that. Write a little description of what you want to mention to me. Fire it up and we'll hit my email box. As soon as I can, I will get right back to you and answer that. What other things are we looking at on the horizon? I know you've got plans, but things that we know, you don't have to divulge all the secrets of what's going to happen because surprises are also fun. Oh yes, surprises are always fun. Like we're doing our own cast. I also have a page that I'm working on too right now that will be able to, if you have events, say like you guys are doing an event. the White House or you're doing a march or something, I can put that on the events page and people can click on it, go to the website to where that event is happening and explain everything about the event. Say you guys are bullhorning your local congressman about something that can be put up on the event. The group page also automatically pop up there too. It's in the community tab. I should have that up here in the next. week to three days. Very good. So again, everybody is going to be able to... And again, you're the man in charge, but you're also the guy running the keyboard, right? Yeah, that's true too. Some days it's like, ah, there's code, you know, I've got to go outside for a while. I've got to go to the range and I've got to do something. Stress reliever, that's right. Just make sure it's not the dollar around ammo. Pick something cheap to shoot. It's kind of hard to mind-check it. It's pretty dry here. I understand. Well, actually, that's... We had munitions dry, but the cleaning supplies are dry too. I can't even buy a bottle of Hoppy's. For everybody listening, one of our best suppliers for Gibbs is Tim Abel. He is with the Leather Barn here in Michigan and the number is 734-654-6607. Again that is Tim Abel, 734-654-6607. That is 734-654-6607. He has Gibbs available in regular bottles or in spray. Either way, which I've got a can of the stuff actually right here. We're just now running out of the last of the cans that we've had for a number of years because we bought a lot of this. We use it constantly. In fact, I'm using this little pen knife I was just talking about earlier in the program. Just to put some lubricant on it. This stuff is fantastic. It gets in it. Where it gets in, it eliminates any of the rust issues. and if you're going to have a problem finding other materials, one cool thing is Gibbs works on everything. It doesn't hurt the plastic, won't hurt any of the wood, doesn't bother the leather. So anything you've got attached to the weapon or makes contact with the weapon, there's not going to be a breakdown issue. It actually helps to preserve pretty much everything, but what we're finding out. So that's a solution. And I understand the ammo problem. We can't do anything for you other than tell you to hunt around a little bit. I guess amoman.com. Check them every once in a while. They have some decent prices on the ammunition they do have. And then classicarms.us, classicarms.us, they've got some ammunition, not much, but they've got some. So those are a couple of solutions there. Then again, this is stress relief. I was going to say that stress relief does not mean going to the range and taking your computer with you and not coming back with it. Well, no, see, I'll leave it here. I'll just get the 12 gauge out and work it out in the living room. No! You hear the little scream from the little awl, the poor little processor. No! I can do better. I can do... Well, that gets expensive though. So we don't want you doing that. You're going to need the old equipment just in case. We'll see if we can round up other places where you can pick up newer or at least pick up bigger. We don't necessarily mean newer, but we might be able to find you bigger. I run on the principle to keep a simple fit. Very good. Now, the other thing here too, and again, I know we're looking at growth. If you get a chance, come into our chat room, go to libertytreeradio.4mg.com and say hello to the guys there. Okay. Everybody there is very receptive to the idea of alternatives. We are already doing that. We have reflectors, several of our men and some of the girls actually rebroadcast in many different ways, but we have reflectors that help take load off Live 365. And they may have a few ideas if you start talking to them about what it is you're doing and where you maybe want to go. And they can pitch in and assist in that area. So many hands make the light work. Don't forget that. And I know the chat room, they've got a lot of people in the chat room right now as a matter of fact. I will get my fingers on the keyboard and work my way over there. Very good. I appreciate you having me up. Even if you guys have videos of... It's a nice case of whatever. Feel free to load them up, spread them around. If you're on social networking sites like MySpace, Bebo, whatever, you can just, once you've uploaded mine to G+, just take the meta tags and drop them in on your profile. Who knows, maybe that one person will stop by and go, oh, and the light clicks for them. That's right. Exactly. That's how it works. All we have to do is have the information, the database there where it can be found. The one thing about the video system and the way we have it set up right now is people can watch at their leisure. If they get a little overloaded they can back off, rest for a bit, then come back and pick up where they started or maybe overlap which is what I always recommend anyway. Try to overlap. If you are watching a multi-step video, go to the chapter before and reinforce that and it locks your subconscious into where you were mentally. You will be moving with the flow when you get into the next chapter or the next 10 minute segment or whatever you are doing. That is really important especially when it comes to trying to lock the information in and put it in the brain pan where it belongs, where it is part of that lumber yard. It is handy. Even if you don't have a social networking site that you belong to, there is a little button on there that you can share with. You can stumble upon, you can dig it, you can back flip it, you can do whatever with it and share it. You can email it. You can suggest it to a friend. So even if you don't have those other opportunities, there's even more opportunities there for you. You can make the video. You can leave a comment. Say, hey, I really love this video. Or, hey, I don't think this video is very good. Whatever. You can have fun. And share the experience with other people. Help other people wake up. Because the more we saturate every other website, even down. It doesn't get a lot of traffic. Put video on it. Get the meditags, put it in there. Boom. Eventually, somewhere along the line, somebody will stumble across it. Well, the cool thing too is that... Go ahead. I was going to say the cool thing... Uh oh, wait a minute. Do we have another caller? Hello, Mark. Okay, I'll tell you what. Vince, hold right... You got a question for Vince? Andrew from Ohio. That's okay, Andrew. Go ahead. Okay. I just wanted to know, I heard you saying something about you wanted to get one of those change t-shirts for Radio Randy the other day. Yes. Okay, I can take care of that. It's probably going to be next week. That's okay. As long as we get to him, he can wear it in bed. It will be a nice thing to show to friends and hospital workers while he's laying there. Okay. Do you know what size I should get for him? Oh, I haven't checked on that, but you could call down there and just ask him nonchalantly, hey, how are you doing? What size shirt do you wear? Okay, that's an idea. Did you write down the number? I can go to the archives. Hold on, hold on, hold on, no, no, no, no, no, no, hold on. Mark's faster than, well, somewhat faster than that. Well, f*** him, I'm not real fast. But I might even have it in my figure. I'll bet you I do. Okay, get your pen ready. Yeah, I got it right here. Okay, it's 478-633-3660. And that's James Randy Perry. So 3630. Yep, three sitting out three notes, uh four seven eight six three three three six six zero six zero, okay, okay? I got it. You must scream and hey by the way You know what size shirt you're wearing there? We can surprise him still but it's just like yeah. Well, you know where there's people asking just tell him there's people asking That's all he doesn't even know anymore Okay, you know how to do that. I think you know you can get it out of him. We'll have to you have to get him a little bit. Yeah I'm going to put my contact information in there for him to give to you and if there's anything else I can do to help get in touch with me. Oh no problem brother, God bless you man. I'm going to back on out. I just want to jump in real quick. Thank you Marcus. It helps a lot and we can save a lot of time. Andrew, that should answer all our questions. This is what I'm saying Vince, when you get a chance, plug in with the guys. Everybody is quick to pitch in. You know what I mean? Yes. You will not be alone. Except for the computer. You have to sit there and stare at it once in a while. And I don't know what your artificial intelligence potential is there with the machine. It could be something dangerous. Maybe it's plugged into you and you're not plugged into it. No, I can't. Oh, that'd be scary. We'll go that far. Oh, okay. Andrew, anything else? That's everything. Well, I'll tell you. Appreciate that. Okay, thanks a lot. Sounds like Vince here has got another solution. This is one of the things that I really like. We have other solutions. When the bad guys think they're running over everybody, somebody else is plugging something in, which is how we should be thinking. Solutions rather than thinking about the problems. Thank you Andrew. Uh oh, Andrew took off. Okay. Well Vince. I also have to thank you too for lighting a little fire under my mind over a year ago too. I remember listening to one of your programs and you stated something. Get out picked up. I appreciate that. Again, we've had some great responses in all directions. The biggest thing now has been the amount of time to share with all the things that are going on. We've got people working in all directions on everything from supply and support with the militia organizations, single communications and television, which is what you're doing right here. A mini network that becomes a major tool very quickly as people realize it's there. I hear somebody else think in the background. Do we have another caller? Yes. Mark? We got you. Okay, this is Catherine in Western Montana. Got you Catherine. I'm a member of the Montana Shooting Sports Association. Oh, okay. And I've been very involved in issues out here and Butter Knife knows my husband well too, out here. Anyway, we've sent information to you in the past. I just received an email that I have permission to spread from Gary Marmot. with the Montana Shooting Sports Association. May I read it on the air? A complaint was filed against him. Okay, hold on just a second. Now, go right ahead. I'm missing a problem. Let me make sure we get it right. When was this generated? Was this generated today or yesterday? The letter was dated Thursday, May 21st. Today I received it in my email. Okay. Go right ahead. Okay, and you know that we have been very involved in Montana made guns and also for the self defense issues and I also post on the hydro.us. So a lot of activism posts are in that particular section of the board on that forum. Anyway, it says, it's from Gary Marmot, dear MSSA friends, You may be interested to know that a complaint has been filed against me by Jen Smith, the lobbyist for the Montana Sheriff's and Peace Officers Association. Smith's complaint to the Commissioner of Political Practices asserts that I illegally lobbied the legislature and violated Montana law because I was not registered with the Commissioner as a lobbyist. Pasted below are two letters to the Commissioner in response to the complaint. One letter I will send out in the mail today and another letter I really wanted to send but decided not to. These letters will explain the situation. I consider this complaint to be an attack by the MFPOA An ill-considered attempt to harass, intimidate, and maybe silence me and via me, you. Best wishes, Gary Marmot, President, Montana Shooting Sports Association, author, Gun Laws of Montana. And he has his other logos. And here's what it says. On MSA, Montana Shooting Sports Association, letterhead. This is the letter I did send to the CPP. May 21, 2009, Mr. Dennis Unsworth, Commissioner of Political Practices, Post Office Box 202-401, Helena, Montana, 59620. Ray Complaint by Jim Smith. Dear Commissioner Unsworth, I have reviewed the complaint filed by Jim Smith. Jim Smith of the Montana Sheriff's and Peace Officers Association accusing me of illegally lobbying without being registered with your office. Specifically excluded from the definition of a lobbyist is any individual who receives payments from one or more persons that total less than the amount specified under Montana Code 5-5. 112 in a calendar year. I received no payments for my activities on behalf of the Montana Shooting Sports Association before the Montana Legislature. My time was donated. Thus, I am not a quote-on-quote lobbyist. As that term is defined in the Montana Code, I request the complaint be dismissed sincerely Gary Marvitt. Now here's the rest of this. This is the letter I did not send, but I really wanted to. Draft unsent. May 21st to Mr. Dennis Unsworth. Same deal, address, and Helena. Dear Commissioner Unsworth, I am in receipt of your letter of April 29th, 2009, referring to the complaint filed against me by Jim Smith, who is a lobbyist 4 and represents the Montana Sheriff's and Peace Officers Association and the Montana County Attorneys Association. Thank you for giving me a chance to respond to this complaint. Smith's complaint alleges that 1. I appear before legislative committees speaking in favor of or opposed to various legislation as a representative of the Montana Shooting Sports Association. 2. I am not registered with your office as a lobbyist and three. By doing so, I must have violated some laws. Points one and two are correct. Point three is a mistake on the part of Mr. Smith made for reasons I will explain. The Montana Shooting Sports Association is, as the name states, an association of people interested in specific topics. Because MSSA is, in fact, an association of individuals, its activities are protected by the freedom of association that the people have reserved to themselves from government interference in the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which applies to the states through incorporation, and in Article II, Section 3 and Section 7 of the Montana Constitution. I am not an employee of NSSA. I am an elected officer, the president. I am also chairman of the board of directors. These are both volunteer positions. I often characterize my political activities in Helena. By the way, Helena is the state capital. I just wanted to tell you that. I often characterize my political activities in Helena as those of a quote-unquote citizen advocate. I do not hold a paid position with MSSA. I am not compensated at all by MSSA for the time I spend in Helena attempting to advance the interests of MSSA members and other citizens of Montana. In that capacity, I am exercising the freedom of speech the people have reserved to themselves from government interference also in the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, also incorporated as applicable to the states, and Article II, Section 6 of the Montana Constitution. Not only am I exercising free speech, I am exercising political free speech. a category of free speech that has been most highly protected and prized speech by the courts and our society. And in addition to that fact, I don't get paid by MSSA or anyone else to advocate for citizens in Helena. I forgo significant personal income because of the time I spend traveling, spend in Helena, and spend communicating with legislatures and MSAs. I lose money at this. I don't make money. On most of the occasions when I testified before committees of the 2009 legislature, I reported that I was speaking also on behalf of the following organizations and their members more freedom of speech exercise. Montana Shooting Sports Association, Gun Owners of America, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, Weapons Collector Society of Montana, Montana Rifle and Pistol Association, Montana Women's Shooting Association, Western Montana Fish and Game Association, Big Sky Practical Shooting Club, Custer Rod and Gun Club, Big Muddy Practical Shooting Association, Richland County Sportsman's Club, Big Fork Gun Club, Samuel Whittemore Memorial Range in Three Forks, Gallatin County Campaign for Liberty, MSU Young Americans for Liberty. For the record, none of these organizations paid me as much as one dime for the time I spent in Helena. I cannot locate any laws in the Montana codes annotated that require a citizen or a citizen operating as a volunteer to register with your office and pay a fee to be allowed to offer an opinion to the legislator or legislators. I believe no such law exists. If such a law did exist, it certainly would not long be tolerated by the court. This is also correct that I did send emails to NSA members across Montana about issues of interest before the legislator. If it matters, I sent those messages from my personal computer to people who have asked to be on the MSSA email information list. Yet another exercise in free speech. Since I was reporting on events in Helena, that exercise may also fall within the Reserve Freedom of the Press. The real issue is that Mr. Smith is a sore loser. Because the measure MSSA supported and he unsuccessfully opposed on behalf of the MSPOA and the MCAA was approved by the legislator and signed by the governor. HB, meaning House Bill, is now the law in Montana despite Mr. Smith's recorded but unsuccessful opposition. While testifying before the House Judiciary Committee in opposition to HB 228, Mr. Smith asserted that his employers pay me well for lobbying. Others may judge whether that payment is well spent by his employers. More important, it appears that Mr. Smith's We cannot comprehend that ordinary citizens will commit time and effort to assert important principles signed in the Montana Constitution. I guess it takes a person of principle to recognize another. Smith, on the other hand, is a mercenary, a hired gun in his lobbying endeavors, and apparently assumes that anyone else in the same arena must be a mercenary too. That, of course, is a seriously flawed assumption on the part of Mr. Smith, but personally consistent with the equally flawed assumptions he voiced about HP 228. Mr. Unsworth, this complaint filed by Mr. Smith is clearly frivolous. It is unfortunate Mr. Smith chose to waste your time with it. He has my phone number. He could have called me to clear this up. Instead, he ought to attempt to use the power of a government agency to harass me, parentheses, not a surprising choice for Mr. Smith. We will leave for another day the question of whether or not he has slandered me or attempted to damage my reputation. However, if you have a mechanism available to sanction people who file frivolous complaints, I request that you apply that mechanism to Mr. Smith. Mr. Unsworth, having had considerable experience in arena of public policy formulation, here's what I suspect is actually going on. Mr. Smith persuaded his employees, MSPOA and MCAA, that HB228 was a dangerous boogeyman demanding opposition in order to impress those employers with need to freely spend the good money those employers pay him. Having broken the MSPOA and MCAA lance against the windmill of HB228 and having recklessly squandered the finnet, Finite, political capital of MSPOA and MCAA in this losing effort, Smith must now claim that he was operating on an unfair, on-level playing field in order to justify to his employers why he failed to destroy the windmill he'd sworn was actually a fierce dragon. I suspect that Smith is being called on the carpet by his employees Employers were having wasted their influence on HB 228 when other legislative issues were practically more important to them. Blaming me for his failure in judgment and ability is Mr. Smith's excuse to his employers. The complaint filed is simply the formulation of that excuse. Frankly, this reminds me of the time the Montana Human Rights Network accused me of being a racist. Coincidentally, the very same week that MSSA endorsed Dr. Alan Keyes for president and when Dr. Keyes was a guest in my home. Like that incident, if this weren't so venal, it would be hilarious. Sincerely, Gary Marmot, president, etc., etc., and all the other lists he has on here. Thank you. Now here's the thing. For everybody listening that's not up to speed on this, by the way, HB 228 is law. It is not just a bill now, it's a law and it was actually signed by the Governor of Montana and establishes independent manufacture and the fact that they're not going to ask for permission in Montana to produce arms, correct? HB228 was either the manufactured Montana made guns or it was the self defense issue. I'd have to go back and see which bill that was because I have so many of them here listed. There were two that they were horribly opposed to and if anybody wants all of those links for that, they can go to www.thehighroad.us.us. Go under activism on that section of the forum and you'll see my name, Catherine with a C as in Constitution posting there. And I have so many bills on there, it's either the self-defense one or the Montana May Guns one. But I will tell you they were horribly opposed to the self-defense bill here in Montana. Hardly opposed. And that gives all the information and the flow back and forth and the lists of all these people who were opposed and 99.9% of them were sheriffs, district attorneys, policemen, etc., etc. So I apologize for not going back and seeing which bill this was, but the two main ones that we fought for were the Self-Defense Bill and the Montana-Made Guns. And they're both ticked off about that. And then of course all the other bills that went through. And I'll tell you what, Vince, are you still there? I guess. But you need to go because my battery or my cell phone is on the computer. Oh my goodness. I tell you what. Vince and Catherine. I can hook this up for you real quick if you want me to. Well here's the thing. Vince is putting up a whole new video network. Actually it's already up. It's similar to YouTube. Vince give out your contact information one more time and Catherine write this down. Okay. Sure. The name of the website is ViewFlix. Can he go slower and a little bit louder? I just turned up my phone. I apologize. That's okay. Go ahead again. ViewFlix. Victor. Uniform. Echo. Is the video site. You can email me at admin at ViewFlix.com. Admin at ViewFlix.com. Hold on. That's okay. And, hold on. Is it A-D-M-A-N? I'm saying it's admin, like administration. Admin. Oh, I had trouble hearing. I'm sorry. Admin at ViewFlix.com. That's his email. Okay, admin as an administration at ViewFlix, F-L-I-X as in Xerox.com. I'll tell you what, guys, you need to connect too because we need to see you guys generating a video and putting it on the sites so that people are able to see what's going on. Do it as a way to explain. Go right ahead. That's me from Western Montana and Butterknife and those guys know my husband here in Western Montana too. Well Butterknife has got the domain name in the chat room so Butterknife has seen the domain name. I might try to go there. I've had computer problems. I do apologize. So I will try to send you something and then maybe you can also hook up with Gary. But if you go to the High Road dot us as in United States the high road dot us go under the section of activism and you will see many many bills there for the Montana made guns and especially the self defense issues. I posted there more than I have on open carry dot org and various other political and gun boards. Well I'll tell you what guys we're waiting for topic. Let your listeners know. I do have a video up that explains... Excellent. Okay. Thank you very much and I'm sorry I have so many bills and so many papers here from all of this that I've been passing on. I'm not sure which one this is but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a self-defense one because that's what they were fighting against the most as far as the police department and sheriff's department of world. Well, I appreciate that. Catherine, you give us an update. Can you do that again on Friday, tomorrow? Do you mean call and read this again? Call in and give us updates and let us know about the legislation. You can tell us which is which. How's that sound? Oh, okay then. And I apologize for not having all my ducks in the row, but I immediately sent them out to some friends and I saw that he was on there and I just... Wolverine Military Outfitters folks, this is WolverineM.com. We specialize in ACUs, BDUs, and SDUs. MOLLE gear, tactical vest, armored vest, and kevlar helmets. Custom camo fabrics and camo netting. All your flare gun and ammo needs. 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