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He took off his three-cornered hat and speaking low to me he said, We've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations this legacy we gave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. Envist the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children? to live in fear and be a slave. O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. This is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Kornke One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories Central Southwest East and Northeast Well ladies and gentlemen you are listening to us on Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg.com. We're also on PV dot 4 mg.com We are on AM and FM micro stations CB base stations and ultra net technologies both east and west of the Mississippi along with southern and central Alaska and the Aleutians off to the corner there. You also find us on the Hallmark Network, 8 colonial states, the Solid, and a number of others that we are overlapping into headed towards south eastern Ohio, and the Golden Spike connection with all of the networks to cover most of the country and then we'll map out the little areas we've missed. Step by step systematically. Today is the 21st. It is Thursday, which is the 21st May, year zero slash 2009. It has been an awfully busy day. We've been a lot done. A beautiful day here in Michigan. A classic end of spring beginning of summer kind of day where we've got blue sky. We've had a fair breeze. Cool at night. Warm during the day. You can't complain. Of course you can if you had to go to work. I will say that because it was a day most everybody would want to have off. Some of you might have taken that day off, but that means you just lost a vacation day you could have used for one of those other pretty days it shows up. Anyway, things happening. We just had, of course, Catherine up, and we had Vince passing on information. Vince, of course, is working on our new equivalent to, but superior to, YouTube network that will be in place, or Ed will be in place, is in place. Boy, slap Mark through the microphone when he does that kind of stuff. Anyway, we're going to make sure that that's all posted. Ed's working on it right now. There'll be a link page to page. And for all of you that are listening, also again, remember that we need to have these alternatives in place. There's no reason not to do it. And Vince has actually answered the call and did a fantastic job. Took a look at the site. In fact, for my little four-footed friends trying to help me with the keyboard here, I'd be just fine right now. But what's fascinating is we have had a tremendous response from many of our friends plugging in what it is that needs to be plugged in to get to Well, where we need to be to communicate both image and voice as needed to our friends. Now, before we go any farther, let's make sure that everybody understands that if you want to plug into Vince's site, it's http-semicolon-forward-slash-forward-slash-read-that-let's see, oh, so wait a minute, uh oh, forward-slash-viewflicks.com. There we go. view v victor union echo flicks f l i x dot com view flicks dot com check it out it's uh... basic format same as uh... what you've we're very familiar with with regard to mom youtube and so you're not going to have any problem there identifying understanding the network i think everybody will enjoy the process so you're not going to have the editing problems or the modification or intentional uh... Well, there's all kinds of things they've been doing and everybody's noticing this that's happening with YouTube with regard to trying to retard the videos You know intentionally block audio tracks whatever that's not happening and so view flicks is again a solution an answer to a question and coming up with a Solution rather than lamenting about the problem. I thought I'm more than one should build a new one. Well guess what Vince did so that's a view flicks and other points here, Catherine gave out another site www.thehighroad.us and then look under the category of activism and I want to congratulate our friends in Montana One of the things I didn't get a chance to mention, because I want to make sure she got all the information out, and she did, and Catherine did a great job there, is that just as what we saw happen years ago in Florida when we stopped what was going to be the Constitutional Convention that the Clintonistas and the Ringknockers tried to push through in the early 90s, when we stopped them in 1994, They could not understand people. They could not relate to. They couldn't figure out how we stopped them. In fact, evaluations by the same kind of lobbyists as the individual that Catherine was just talking about in the last hour, the comments made or the derision by that individual against the Patriot Movement, the same thing was said back then. They must have spent, in fact, their estimate, we had their numbers, by the way, they're on file here behind me, but it was about, they said that we, they estimated that we must have spent in advertising and lobbying about $14.5 million. Not a penny was spent, people. It was all grassroots and it's true what Catherine said is true. They cannot understand you being honestly motivated. Mercenaries, this is like every battlefield we've faced. We can outgun them, we can outrun them, we can outmaneuver them, we can outperform them, but everybody does the boric thing. It's to resist, you be absorbed, they're so smart and powerful, really, well then they wouldn't be afraid of a, you know, a handful of little people with guns there, because if it's so powerful, then our little, our little popcorn guns don't make no difference, do they? But they seem to kind of try constantly to get every one of them. In fact, they are trying desperately to disarm the whole of the United States if they can. We are going to have to put them down for that and put them down hard. You know that as well as I do. We are going to kick them in the slats. Well, what is interesting is things are going in the other direction. The fact that the governor signed these pieces of legislation to me is a very interesting statement in and of itself. Now, we have to look more carefully at many of these people. This is not a just a general or nebulous statement of we don't we'd like to see this happen and we feel real warm and fuzzy But it's not binding this was passed as law the Montana another Montana firearm law the man tennum firearm production law that we're talking about is Definitely going to put them any war time footing the bad guys especially the globalists want to have total control now I will point this out guys Every aspect of what you need to manufacture firearms is in every state. Here in Michigan, I'll give you an example. We have iron ore, we have copper, we have all of the other trace higher metals that we need. We have coal, which most people don't even realize that. Michigan has a series of coal sayings that are massive and have barely been tapped. Barely, I mean like not even barely fingernail scratched and yet we've known for the last half century plus that Michigan has a vast coal field available sitting and waiting and by the way it's not high sulfur, it's sweet coal, it's clean and not clean coal, Al Gore clean coal, throw that out. We ain't talking babes and bikinis rolling around in the coal, we're talking real coal that actually does not require as much scrubbing and other work but here's the point. American Revolution guys, most of the big cities that you know that became the massive foundries were originally little kilns and foundries that were started up by a handful of people because somebody needed it locally. Once it was built and once they realized all the resources were in reasonable distance, the rest was plugged in and it's history. So, they don't want you to realize how things work and how simple they are to do. Now, as far as steel production for the higher quality steel and the grade of steel, that is an art. And that's the skill that we need to preserve and we need to build back up, but not in large central positions. We need a thousand kilns. We need a thousand foundries. We need, in fact, we have several here in Michigan that are established that can produce small lots of what we need in cast aluminum or in copper or in steel or in whatever we choose to and produce raw or from scrap and then generate accordingly with the math formulas and by doing spectrographs the whole nine yards. We can do everything that any other foundry can do. Which means we can go for the raw material base people. We can start right there and work our way up through the rest of the processes. It can be done, but you have to start thinking industry and you have to start thinking local industry now. Not down the road. Well once we get to that no you need to be thinking now so I cannot stress that enough We've got the right idea. This is where you know push comes to shove We have to have this production in place across the whole the country now phase one production involves Consuming existing inventories guys. I love recycling bins look at it this way They sort it out and gave you pop metal cans in one you got steel cans in one you got aluminum cans in another Wow you got your steel in one pile got your aluminum in another that can all be smelted Other tools and equipment, junk and equipment, not tools, you don't ever waste tools. But debris and material that is rusted or damaged beyond repair can all be recycled back into the inventory for reproduction. We've already been doing that. And some of our teachers have been actually taking classes and doing foundry work of this type and then teaching how to cast. It's kind of nice to be knowing how to cast a complete lower receiver for an AR in its basic form, or let's say a pistol or whatever. And being able to then go into the mill, or going into the shop, and being able to completely finish the work, and knowing that from A to Z, all of it was done by you. That's the kind of work, and that's the kind of production we're developing even as we speak. Now, real quick, and another point. I know we have a couple of other callers in there. Who else do we have? I heard a peep in the background. Catherine? Yeah, we got Catherine back. Catherine, jump in there please. I looked that up for you and I apologize for not having it right away. I have no problem. HB 228 was the self-defense bill signed by Governor Schweitzer and that is listed on the Highrow.US. I just looked it up and that was the one they were against. the most, all of the police departments and the sheriff's department and district attorneys, etc., etc. That is posted under the title of Montana-HB228 Self-Defense Bill signed by our Governor S. and the original post was April 28, 2009 and they'll be able to find that in the activism section of that board. Excellent. Do we have the other, the other, the other, the Montana firearms law was also, forgive me. Hello. Oh, there we go. Right place, wrong here. Yes, the Montana firearms made in Montana guns was also passed too, and I think that was 246, but I have so many papers here. Bear with me. I can put back on my computer if you want me to. Well, the reason I say that is because that was, but that was also signed by the governor, so that's in the long run. Yes, it was. And I have that up there too. And then that's another thing that they're heavily frustrated with, both of these Are state and people oriented bills that the Ringknockers really don't like, do they? Absolutely. They are very much against it. And in fact, I have other information on here about Montana made ammunition. And in the Bitterroot Valley, that is really gearing up and I've got that all over the place too. I can give you information on that tomorrow if I have time to call in and I'll give you the links and you can go from there if you would like that. Catherine, do we have a mailing address that you can give out? A regular ground mail address, a mail mail? You mean my private mail? Well, something where it will get to the guys and you there so if we want to send material or information we can. I don't want to give it on the air, my personal mailing address. Is that what you mean to my post office box? Well, does the MSSA have an address where we can send stuff? Oh, yes, they do. I apologize. I thought you meant something else. Here, let me just flip back to that for you again. Hold on here. Going back. The email address, I'll give you that and then I'll give you the regular address. The email address is? Gary Marbitt, G-A-R-Y, M as in Mary, A as in Apple, R as in Richard, B as in Button, U as in Under, T as in Toe, dash M-S-S-A. And his address, email address, the first one is M-S-S-A at M-T-S-S-A dot So that is mssa.mtsasnapplesanapple.org. And then I will give you the other information here for him. He puts it right out on all of his emails. Let's see here. And of course that is the one I am looking for and I can't find it. Just a second, let me flip back to the email. Hold on a second, I do apologize. I didn't know I was going to call back, but when I found that, I'm signing out and I'm going to the email address for him. I've got so many things on this old computer of mine, it's like, oh my goodness. And I can even give a phone number for him too, which he puts out for everything. So let me just bring that up right here. Hold on, I have to type with arthritis fingers, arthritic fingers. Now, in the process here, remember again, for everybody that wants to find out more, one more time, I'm going to give it out while you're doing that, www.thehighroad.us. That's www.thehighroad.us and then go to activism. That will give you all the information we're talking about here. Gary Marmot is the President. Yes. You will find his main page of that site and he's also with Pro Gun Leaders. Hold on, I'm going to contact us. I've got so much on here. I do apologize. Okay, here's a regular mailing address through, you know, the U.S. Mail. Montana Shooting Sports Association, Post Office Box 4924. Missoula, Emes and Mary, I as in N, S as in Sam, S as in Sam, O, U, L as in Linda, A as in Apple, Missoula, Montana, 59806 is the physical mailing address. He's also with Pro Gun Leaders that there are links all over that place there too. I was looking for his phone number here, which I usually have right off the hand, on hand, and I don't. It's on the Hiro.us because he allowed his phone number to be published in his physical address and email address. and I don't see, I can't, I've got so many things up here on my computer I do apologize. That's okay, now I'll tell you what, here's the thing. We needed the mailing address, there's going to be stuff shot in the mail today. Tell everybody at that end to be watching the mailbox because this is critical to one of the projects that you brought up and that has to do with ammunition production. Now, they will understand once they get hold of this information why it's critical to the overall program, and there's a lot more that we are passing on. Primer production, individual case production, resources that are presently available for somebody who would be willing to put the machinery online, we are allocating that out. to include being able to produce the actual multi-strike dies for producing the individual cases, Browning 50 caliber, 30-06, and also 45 ACP. These are all mil-spec factory production systems, and they have been on standby waiting for the day. Well, it sounds like the day is a-coming. We already have a number of allies that are putting these tools to use, but we still have more tools available. Whoever is going to commit to this, Montana, let's put it this way, Montana Arsenal slash Montana Armory, whoever is going to be doing it, when it's committed to them, the only thing you're going to have to do is protect it with their lives. That's their job. Mark, I did want to tell you that the Montana Shooting Sports Association They don't personally make ammunition or anything. They're just a pro-gun, pro-liberty group. Oh, I understand that. But what I wanted to tell you, and I will try to put those links under activism, some other links regarding the Bitterroot Company here that is making ammunition and I put posts up there all over the place in the general discussion area and I can possibly move it over or somebody can just go to that board and look on articles on where I had something about the Western Montana newspaper that had an article about one of the Bitterroot companies that was making ammunition and selling it here to the stores. So between that company and the hunting shack for think people who reload and that sort of thing. That man left that company and started his own and he is making 22 long rifle, various other calibers. I don't think he makes 45 Colt as in long Colt like I use for a Ruger Blackhawk. But he does make quite a few there. And they're just working, I think, I believe two or three shifts right now and really trying to get this out. But I just wanted people to be aware that these links are all over that board and the association itself It doesn't have anything specifically to do with making ammunition or firearms, which I'm sure you understand. Here's the thing, this one I'm going to recommend. The War Department for years had separate arsenals, and each one had its own stamp. Of course, Bitterroot has already got a name. But, for instance, there was the Frankfurt Arsenal, there was the St. Louis Arsenal, Lake City, most everybody is familiar with, and LLC is what their cartridge cases are stamped. The reason I was using the Montana Arsenal was MA would be really cool. Somebody eventually is going to have to make sure that they use the same nomenclature and striking ID so that we know what batch came from where. And that really is our goal. Because during the American Revolution, Most people think that the blacksmiths did, what I was talking about earlier in the program here this hour, is that we had individual manufacturing in place. But one of the first states to actually produce, for instance, a state militia rifle, was the state of Pennsylvania. And they did everything top to bottom. Now they couldn't produce, the factory production as we know it today is not how they built weapons in that day. They were one of the few states to actually get production up to the point where they could outfit whole units with Pennsylvania militia rifles built right here in the United States. Built in the colonies and specifically built in the state of Pennsylvania. And that's really what we're looking at here. This is a states rights issue. Absolutely. And it's something that the other side has been trying desperately to usurp. They've taken things farther and farther away. Now that we're going exactly where we warned everybody, they would go. a national police force, a globalist enforcement force, and all of this tied in so far away from the American people that they don't care if they shoot the American people, which is what the Founding Fathers warned everybody about in the first place. What started the American Revolution, one of the key points, was the use of foreign mercenaries who, they didn't have a choice, they were sold, but in reality they were mercenary slash slaves. But, they were sent as mercenaries, propagandized before they came over, and they were brought in here, they were quartered illegitimately, they cost the people outrageous taxation, which was not acceptable, especially in a time of peace, and the rest is history. And that's what we're facing right now. This is the threat to the American people, is the destruction of our sovereignty. It is why this issue needs to be addressed where we have genuine hearts. There's some plastic going on here too. I don't trust California any farther than you can throw them because California is one of our problems. It's like the black hole where all the money is going to go and be sucked. They're not interested in sovereignty because their interests are fearful of the destruction of America. They're just trying to figure out how to write off their debt. In other words, they're a bad check company and they already know they were writing rubber. Now if they can find some other way to hide it, they're going to do it. We have to beware places like California doesn't mean everybody in California is bad, but we know the regime and the system is bad. Right, good and bad in all people and in all states and in all countries. That's right. And New York is the same way. The city of New York was even talking about this. And my question with that is these people are as shifty as the day is long, but there's a lot of other states. Montana, Idaho, Oklahoma. Oklahoma has been in the forefront of this for a long time. Montana has always been persnickety with the Fed. That's my description because they were the last state to have an unlimited speed limit. The mistake made there was buying into that because the last time I visited there to talk, it was one of the larger events. As long as you didn't play dukes of hazard, you could pretty well drive whatever speed you wanted. As long as you had reasonable control of the car, which is intelligent, you guys have pieces of real estate so flat you can fall asleep counting the telephone poles. I'm originally from the East Coast and my late husband lived in the state next door to you. I'm a remarried widow lady to a born and raised Montana man out here. I would tell me about the speed limits and various other issues. But I have to tell you something, Mark. Before I ever heard of you, no offense, or the Patriot Movement, I was talking about these things and my late parents were talking about this in the 50s and 60s. I'll be 59 in July. So I can relate to everything that you're saying and I used to write about this all over the place. Only I didn't know that other people actually I understood the issue. I'm slow as far as coming to or hearing alternative radio for the last couple of years I've been introduced to this. So I'm not up to speed as many of you are, but as far as once I got a personal computer in the late 90s. and then recently started to listen to various radio stations online. I thought, oh my God, somebody actually is talking about what I've been writing about for years and what I remember growing up in the 50s and 60s. It was like, there are other people out there who have a clue. They're not all sheep. And you know what, interestingly enough, that's one of the things I've tried to point out is that this whole effort, the reason we're able to do what we're able to do right now is because years ago, before, as we were growing up. Other people were doing the same thing, but they had to do it with different tools. And the one thing that I would argue is they had to persevere more because it was an uphill battle towing a 20-ton stone. There was not the fantastic implements that we have today, plus all the tools they had. In the day it was reel to reel or records, if you go back to the 1950s. I was born in 1950, in the summer of 1950. The tools they had then, they still made work. The Mimeograph machine was a major jump forward. Oh, and when the Xerox machine came out, my goodness, you could crank out hundreds of copies of something. And then came discs and now we have television, DVD's, CDs. The little frisbees are the coolest thing because for their price you get so much information out. The little silver CDs and DVD frisbees because right now they're at the cheapest point they'll probably be because they've been around for more than a few years. So we have excellent tools. Plus we have the alternate radio like we're doing now, alternate television, which is why again with ViewFlix, which is what we're talking about with Vince, YouTube, which is a tool we're using right now, but we're going to be using ViewFlix just as often, and we'll be right up there on that as quickly as we can be up there. But these tools allow everybody to actually take advantage of the audio visual. If they'd had that in the 50s, It would have been even more terrifying for the enemy because there is so much more that probably could have been accomplished. But here is the thing, so much was accomplished with what they had and we have survived because of it. The enemy has not had their way. The enemy has had major obstacles put in their way. They have been beat down several times. We have outlived a whole bunch of the shysters on the other side who thought they were going to be gods on this earth and they are now dead. So they don't live forever. They aren't going to be sticking around. They are going to do no time waits for no one. And most important is that we have to keep pure in mind and spirit about what we're doing. There's nothing on the other side that they have that I want. Make nothing I want to steal from anybody. There's nothing I want from them. I'm going to keep my liberty. That's all we're here for. The rest of it I'll make on my own. I'll have my fun using my time the way I want to. Unfortunately, because of a bunch of nutcase parasites that we have right now that are in positions of power, we are having to face and deal with and put down. an attack on the very essence of this country, the very substance of this country, and this is the most overt and most direct attack we have seen in the history of this country short of the original revolution where we had to fight to deal with the regulars and to deal with what was a proposed occupation. And there's an argument about this. The Founding Fathers, it's argued, well, some people say, well, it wasn't that bad. Well, here's the thing, guys. They had come from a country where it was that bad. They saw all the writing on the wall and knew exactly what the crown planned on doing. Everybody could see it. No, you don't wait until your arms are in chains and your ankles are in chains before you go, wow, maybe I ought to do something. Instead, as a free man and as free women, we have an opportunity and an obligation to protect our liberty. That's what everybody is doing and better get on the line to do. Absolutely. We've got a lot of ladies who have done great work. We've got a lot of men who have done great work. Everybody has done their part. A lot of people are realizing they're not alone. Everywhere I walk, I hear responses now, and they are not polite responses. We're nicer than most of the people out there that we're listening to now. That's what's fascinating. Well, the thing is, Mark, people have to think outside the box. They've been so propagandized. thinking Republican only, Republican only, or Democrat only, or Democrat only. And they can't, they don't realize that both parties have been hijacked. You flip a coin, you have the same BS, no offense. One will want to take your guns away, and yet the other one will want to shred and ignore the Constitution while saying, oh, we'll let you keep your guns. Oh, but we won't let you do this or that. I don't mean to toot my horn, but I've said and written so much I've lost friends over this. They thought I was either paranoid or overreacting or whatever because I said these parties have been hijacked. What you think was a true conservative or a constitutionalist You didn't have that. People don't know what the word sovereign nation is. I was writing about the trade laws and the United Nations and everything else and called everything from a tin foil hatter to anti-American and everything else. You know, a widow of a veteran who died of cancer not killed in action. Served over 20 some years. between the Navy and Vietnam and Air National Guard Fighter Wing. And they dare to tell me that I'm anti-American or anti-troop when I said you don't attack a country that never attacked you and all of these other issues. So there are a lot of us out there that have or recently discovered or within the last couple of years alternative radio. And I think that's going to be the saving force, your show here. And some other shows I've learned to discern various people that I listen to. You know, I take everything with a grain of salt and I'm not a regular listener of any specific show. My husband tries to listen to yours on a regular basis when he can with his crazy schedule at the office. But people are getting the word out and people are fed up. People are saying, you know, this doesn't add up or this doesn't make sense. And all the people that used to say that I was paranoid or other people were paranoid or that's never going to happen or this or that, you can't believe how many of those people have come around. It's like, oh, wake up and smell the coffee. Well, actually, it's like I said, it's like you have people right now. All you have to do is start something. Just say something. And other people will end the conversation with you, not against you. In fact, like I said, the most common response is going to be something where basically it's like, why are we waiting? Why aren't we dealing with this? And it's like, well, you know as well as I do that we've argued that we should have been doing something about this already. There's a little t-shirt running around right now that we need to make a lot more of. And there are several variations, but the latest one has a picture of the founding fathers standing there, and each one's carrying a different rifle. There you go. And down below it says, up above the top line says, the founding fathers, and down below it says, would have done something by now. Well you know, as far as discussing the founding fathers and famous quotes and all of this, I was accused of always bringing that up. Why are you always bringing that up? Why are you discussing that? That's political. And a lot of these gun boards won't even let politics come into a discussion because of what they call, you know, hate for this side or hate for that side. There is one little section there. They let a little bit of politics being discussed. So it's not my most favorite board that I had years ago, which, you know, I stopped doing a lot of that when my late husband was dying of cancer and then later on when I moved out here. But anyway, there is a section on there where it can be discussed. But the gun owners, and people hate me for saying this, they're their own worst enemies. They think crap isn't going to happen. They think it's only this political party or that political party, and they absolutely cannot think outside the box. And they just, most of them just don't get it. A few are waking up. But it's pretty sad when you go to gun boards now, compared to what they were, the forums that they had in the 90s. Like from what I'm familiar with is 98 and on. A lot of them are gone. A lot of them have severely restricted talk. Or you have the chills or co-intel pro or all of the other people who are paid to make fun of people who actually discuss issues. Or they just won't let the discussion be brought up whatsoever because it involves quote on quote politics. Well how the H can you keep politics out of gun or freedom issues? You can't. But you try to tell these people that and it's like beating your head against the brick wall. So I do what I can on boards that do not belong to me. I might start my own for that matter. I might send you or call you and say I'm going to start my own where we can have true freedom of speech. Because as it is now with everything else if you say something about this or that, oh, who knows, that's going to be another hate speech deal. or whatever you want to call it. I mean it's ridiculous. Well I hope so. I'll reverse that. I hope so because you know what? I'm going to tell you something here. This is one of our problems in this respect. I'm willing to fight for my freedom of speech. First time they start that it will be the last time they know anything that ever happened on this planet because that's the attitude we have to have. This whole thing, there's a statement I made years ago and I have to keep repeating it now. If you allow your enemy to dictate your vocabulary eventually you will have no voice at all absolutely and because they'll do is they see that you're willing to all your stuff because even all you can say gone after a while people doing their can say fire arm or can't talk about with this is the gun blog well you can talk about those and that's eventually what they'll back up there roll up and say what we can talk about fifty calipers or you can't talk about you know machine guns which of course to most everybody we've argued you don't need a machine on the first place but not for the reason everybody would think and i want you to hit your target at all part terrible want to hit your target okay go ahead please mark i get to when they first came out with that hate crime saying back in the nineties and all of these other issues with the reno and clinton in the new your customer law and bank for all these i used to write you just can't imagine but anyway I used to write that there was no such thing as hate crime. It was just a bunch of baloney. Crime was crime, dead was dead, you know. People can like, love, hate, whatever, but crime is crime. And I said it was all BS. Well, I got called everything that you could imagine. And now if you say that, they really think you're not when you write on a board or speak up and say there is no such thing as hate crime. Crime is crime, period. But people can't get it through their thick skulls. They've been so brainwashed in thinking that everybody needs a special right or a special this or a special that. Well, that's just baloney. We're all human beings. There are good and bad in all. It doesn't matter what religion they are. I have friends of all religions. They are good and bad in all of them. They want to portray one group like this or one group like that. They just don't get it. It doesn't matter what party, what they look like, whatever. They're good and bad and are all. And I know many people, many people who are pro-gun and pro-liberty where everybody says, oh no, well they're that and so they're this type of person. And that's just baloney. It's not true. And true advocates of freedom, true advocates of all of the Bill of Rights, all of them. don't believe that there is such a thing as hate crime or hate speech or any of that. They know it's just another card that the Republicans and Democrats want to play whether it's race, religion, socioeconomic, class warfare, sex. Nationality, religion if I didn't say that, you can put in anything there. They just want to play the cards and pit everybody against one another. And they even do this within the so-called pro-gun community. And it's ridiculous. It's like, wake up and smell the coffee. Can't you see what they're doing? And they just don't get it. They just don't get it. It's really quite sad. Well, we're having fun with this as it is. We've actually had very good response. So I'll tell you what we need to do is we need to make sure we get everybody year-end plugged in with us. And again, you've been in the chat room before, so come in and visit more often. Let everybody know especially. And here's the thing. Any time we have a victory, and this is something you guys just had two major victories, well more than that, but you had two significant victories that virtually It goes against everything that a lot of other people have been wheezing about. My argument has been that we have the resources, we have the intelligent people, we certainly have the manpower, and we can focus it better. The other side, that lobbyist hates you guys because of exactly what you hate. He is a mercenary and they expected to rake in so many dollars from these associations for their scam. Now, back in the 90s when they tried to do the con con, what we did is through all of our radio operations and internet, when most people didn't know what internet was, The word got out and then through the phone trees, the fax networks and everything else, we focused all the resources against the con con which they wanted to start in Florida. Now when they were done, the evaluation that we had, well I've got it in my files here, they actually printed even the newspapers that, oh my goodness, well it wasn't what it was supposed to be, but then they turned right around and acknowledged it was a constitutional convention attempt right in the articles that they wrote. They figured we spent $14.5 million in lobby operations. Now that was their estimate based upon result. In reality, we didn't spend a penny on them. Just as you guys did in Montana with what you just did, it was all individuals highly motivated doing and thinking outside the box and getting the job done. And it's inconceivable to them. These characters are so locked in and so narrow of mind that not we can virtually run circles around them And that's what everybody's gonna have to learn another thing that I would I'm gonna say something here You know what I hope he bankrupted NSP OA and MCAA I hope he did I've been willing to bet that they just squandered a whole bunch of their resources there and they're asking What do we get for our money because they expected an automatic win now in the past we've made one mistake because we've been nice Absolutely. I hope they were bankrupted and I hope they're wondering how they're going to pay the bills to keep the lights on for those two organizations. That's what I'm hoping. And you know what? I don't care what the hell happens to them. Why? Because they took this attitude of because, and it's not just from your state, those characters have marching orders from the Attorney General's office and from the Shysters in Washington. Absolutely. And what happened is they got their butts stung. Oh, we'll hand everybody's head over to them, the bad guys on a platter. Instead, you handed their rumpus in two big chunks and two separate platters to them. Well, they'll really think we're all terrorists now because I use my real name, my real first name and middle name in my email. I've met people all around the country, not just You know here in Montana since I moved out here after my late husband died and I sold her house and everything that we built back in the 70s They are all like, oh we are afraid to use our name. I am like, well I use my name, I have always used my name. I have written about book reviews from John Ross' Unintended Consequences. Everybody is afraid. Now they want to label us all of these things. Gun owners, veterans, and veteran family members, and veteran widows, and people who were for Ron Paul. I was for Paul back in 1988. Recently again, And all of these things, you know, if we speak up about this or that, people are afraid. People are, I know people who went offline and they will not go back online. It isn't because someone was dying of cancer or they were in the middle of a move or didn't have the time or, you know, that sort of thing. Common everyday occurrences or, you know, that you just have to live and endure and go forth with your life. But they're actually afraid to use their name or to speak up or to write letters. Heck, when they wanted to attack Iran and all this other stuff, which by the way I am totally against, I called all these people in Congress, including Hillary's number, and gave her my name and my unlisted phone number, and said, I'm against this, and this, that, and whatever. And I just went down the list, Republicans, Democrats, when Clinton was in and all that mess was going on between. Waco, Ruby Ridge, and all these kinds of things. I called and used my name from my rural Northwest Ohio home out in the boonies. And I don't care. What are they going to do? What are they going to do? People have to speak up. And if we had people marching and complaining, Instead of just, excuse me for saying this, bitching and whining and moaning, we might get somewhere. Because right now, That ballot box is not working. And I don't care all the people say, oh, yeah, the ballot box works, the ballot box works. No, it doesn't work. It hasn't worked. If anybody had any clue about black box voting and all of the other BS that goes on and how they change the conventions and everything, it's not working. And the only way people are really going to make a stand is when they get out and they see that people are ticked off. When the Second Amendment sisters marched against and had a big thing against the million mom BIMBECs back in the late 90s or 2000 and everybody was going to D.C. I couldn't at that time. I was self-employed. I couldn't do that. I was still living back in the Midwest at the time. And I said, why aren't these other groups supporting these women? I had people who marched and I taped them on C-SPAN. The NRA wouldn't even show their face or support them. I was not a member of the Second Amendment sisters. I was a member of the NRA for a couple years and quit them when I found out what a joke that was. No offense people, but they are. I was a member of Gun Owners Association and some other things I sent donations into. Right now I just belong to the Montana Shooting Sports Association. But I said, where are these people that are speaking up? and trying to support the Second Amendment sisters. They didn't have many support and the NRA sure of heck didn't support them. They didn't put a face. on a podium. They didn't do jack squat. And you have these people say, oh well they're our friends, they're whatever. Sure they are. All they are, they screw the veterans and everything else. You know the spiel, I won't go through the whole thing. But people don't get it. And these gun people, well you have to join this. And just because you don't get everything you want. I said you know what, you guys are a joke. You compromise, you can go down a list of all of these things, I can't rattle it off or bait them, so I apologize for that. I used to write about that issue more often. But where are these people who are supporting anybody? Why aren't we out marching? Why aren't we making a presence that the mass media, well we know that's controlled and the shills and all that, but people are afraid to go out. I think part of it is to do something rather. It's not that everybody is afraid so much as I think a lot of the soldiers especially are to the point where they just don't want to talk to the enemy. They only have one opportunity, one obvious solution that they believe needs to be plugged in. I'll explain this to you because I had a friend and I actually have a friend. His wife is the most phenomenal individual as far as being active in the Patriot effort in every aspect, the Ron Paul, the Moon Hill cause and everything. But she kept trying to get her husband to go out and get into the protests and everything and he would come out on occasion. He would help, but he was deep into preparation as far as the militia movement and arms. He's an armorer. He has armed more people. I'll tell you how you can see, give you an idea. He has built 680 plus M14, M1As, using M14 kits. That's what he did in the Army. At one point, she finally got so frustrated, she was shocked. He said, dear, he goes, let me explain something to you. He goes, your job is to do what you're doing. And my job is to do what I'm doing and then there's going to come a point where they're not listening to you anymore. And when that happens, it's my job to pick up my rifle, pick up my equipment, kiss you goodbye and maybe not come back again. That's a very good point you just said. That's what a lot of men are at that point. The other side is feeling this now. The response, in fact we're even seeing this from the demicons. We have the republicrats and we have the demicons. You understand the symmetry there. The neocon artist. Yeah, exactly. That's what I call them. If the Democrats proposed to burn down the Library of Congress today, the Republicans were proposed to phase it in over a three-day period. That's the difference between the two. And even then, they might all just agree that, well, to save time and lunch money, just do it all the same day anyway, and we'll forget the phasing in. That's exactly how they do it. But anyway, that is what we are seeing is a massive number of people who are just preparing for war. The other side is feeling this. That's one of the reasons I put these numbers up, not that they even truly reflect all of what's happening but the country literally every 30 days this country has been now purchasing enough arms to outfit the top military on the planet every 30 days. We have that's armed all types of arms combined and that's just official sales and we know that it's many times that where ammunition, weapons, magazines, cleaning kits, you name it everything is going out the window to the point where the inventories are completely depleted. It's not just government was buying it up or whatever. That's nonsense. We know from too many people we've known in the industry, we told everybody a year and a half ago, it's now a year and a half, to buy your ammo now because we knew what they were doing and they were intentionally telling the companies to slow down production or stop production to the civilian sector. We weren't supposed to catch on to this until about now. I said the same thing and people said I'm not. I said no, there's more to this than it's not just supply and demand. I said the same thing what you just said and I do believe in stocking up and it was long before this last election. That's right. That's the point. Here's the thing. Here's what really gets me. For anybody who tried to ridicule a person a year ago, you can turn right around and walk up to that person and laugh at them. Because any person right now that bought their ammunition a year to a year and a half ago, in longer, some people bought it back in the 90s, bought their ammo for 3 cents and 4 cents a round. Probably the best example, and we're almost at the top of the area here. $60 for 1,600 rounds of 8mm Mauser. $60 for 1,600 rounds in a big block tin that was made, was actually soldered together, was made for foreign militaries. Now guys, If I had 20 of those at $60, I can right now take one can, open it up, and sell it at the present market price, which is $27 a bandolier, and pay not only for all the ammo but actually still make a profit on top of everything else and still have the other nine cans left to use how I wish when the war and the time comes. There's wise investment. There's an intelligent process. The very thing that all of the gray-haired people that we knew years ago said, ammunition will be like money or better than money. Absolutely. And it's all written here. Reloading supplies, ammunition, and even 22 long rifles, which people kind of joke about. And I think it's funny because that's one thing that I use other than center fire calibers. I mean, I use that too. But I've been using 22 long rifle more and people can laugh all they want. And I said, hey, you can move quite a bit. It doesn't take much to move that ammunition. How many rounds do you have? What kind of guns and something simple? My theory is the kiss method that my late husband used to say, keep it simple, stupid. That's how I live my life and more power to anybody else. It's amazing about this ammunition thing. There's far more to it and everybody just keeps saying it's supply and demand. And I said, well gee, isn't it funny? The troops and the police forces aren't using 22 long rifle. And they're not using this, that, or whatever. Now I'm not an expert on military ammunition or battle rifles, so I do apologize for my ignorance there. I mean, I've heard of some things. I personally do not own them, but I do know enough about things that other people own and my husband owns in other calibers like .223 and .30-odd-6. I just got my first .30-30, by the way, and things like that. I don't know. The ballot box isn't working and the poop's going to hit the fan whether people like it or not and people better wake up and smell the coffee and realize that there is no difference between either party and they're just going to have to persevere because times are going to get much tougher than what they are now. Whether it comes to water, food, ammunition, firearms, medical supplies, you name it. All of the things that our late parents talked about from depression days when they grew up in the depression and they believed in buying on sale or stocking up or doing this or doing that. Everything that they said and even their forefather said is coming true and the people who scoffed at it and said, no way, you're just tin foil, they'll be the ones that lost. I didn't mean to hog up your whole show here. Oh no, that's okay. Thank you for calling. God bless you and keep up the great work. Any time you have an announcement to make, remember to call into the network here and bring it up right away. Don't hesitate and don't wait. Okay, I'm going to mark down the links that Butter and Knife gave me so I won't lose them. Very good. Thank you. Take care. Bye. And we're going to close the hour. God bless the Republic. Mike, if toon new world order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is on the run. Yeah, but we're on the march both day and night. Right, all points to the compass people, we're moving forward. Victory is our only option. That much drop of the neck, throw them over the fence to the mad chihuahuas. Let him chew on those soft parts. God bless, guys. Ed's taking the programming back. Over. And circulates cool air between your sheets. Your average body temperature is over 98 degrees and your air conditioner simply can't penetrate your blanket or your body heat is being trapped. 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