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You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press. And you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedom for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God, keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the midst for once he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside the dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free home? This is the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Hernke and I'm Donald Betcher One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, Central, West, East and South. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we are on live 365 and go to Liberty Tree Radio. You will also find us on AM and FM microstations, CB base stations, and alternate technologies, East and West of the Mississippi. along with southern and central Alaska and the Aleutians over there in the lower left-hand corner. We're also on the Hallmark Network, 8 colonial states and the Eastern Seaboard, but expanding to many others and soon part of the Golden Spike program where all of the three independent networks separate from the internet will come together. And these are unique works, a lot of different old and new technologies integrated and even sub integrations taking place with little hubs here, big hubs there. and many many people helping to make for Lightworks. So congratulations to the teams there. Don, today's date is... Hey you guys, it is the 12th day and they who amazed that they'd had their way in China. Mark, you know this, there was a couple found here and there, there was the American Volunteer Group... It's done them, actually. It's done them, exactly. Mad that they... This is real history, you guys. A little bit later at the Germans, they looked over at the Maginot Line and said, we know from history... Is there losses so they can do more damage to somebody else? In many cases, remember when they are demanding surrender, granted we know there are variations on this, but let's go to one that is close at hand. The Batfaggots attacked the Branch Davidians three times in the same day. During that whole time, those enemies of the American people, the ATF, attacked and they had no problems being the first to shoot, they fired on Koresh, shot him in the abdomen, shot him all over the place. Actually, his wounds, he used several parts of his body. The gentleman next to him is shot 11 times in the abdomen, about the same as Koresh, but most of their saturation fire hit that man dead center with whoever was firing on him. And from that point forward, they had no intention nor any interest in talking. There is a 911 tape, which we need to play again on the air every once in a while here, not just the parts you've seen, but a whole herd, but a whole bunch of habit. And repeat, every time it's like tell them to stop and the dispatch sergeant, he's lying, saying, well they're not making any move, you just don't do anything. And then he turns, are you making your move? You know, it's like, well okay, the second attack, first attack gets repulsed, second attack gets repulsed. The third attack gets repulsed and it was more vicious. Each one was just as reckless, you know, they fired indiscriminately through the walls, they didn't care who they shot, women, kids, everybody. But then all of a sudden they wanted to talk Now the other question would have to be and in this case especially when you're dealing with a mobile force if you don't see any massive supply trucks roll up behind those troops and If you don't see a whole lot of anything looks like you know any kind of you know coolies with backpacks of ammo You got to figure that if they want to talk there's one reason in this case though the bat faggots is that they had less than 40 rounds of ammunition left between about a hundred of them They couldn't even commit decent suicide Actually, they had to fall on their own knives. I don't think they got the guts for that. They're great for shooting women and kids, but terrible when it comes to any kind of discipline. Anyway, there's a small example of what you're talking about, Don, in reverse order. The idea, guys, they had the wherewithal. They could have captured all of the video taken by the Batfaggots, and that would have settled the whole issue about the whole attack. Instead, because they negotiated with the enemy in a weakness, a situation where they were actually in a point of weakness and inability, they allowed an acquiesced when they should have continued to fight. Had they done so, they could not have extracted themselves. They would have had to have surrendered. Think about the twist there. Oh, that in and of itself was one of the problems that they knew that they couldn't deal with because they couldn't move and they'd have no choice but to surrender. They had no choice. Otherwise, decimation is the term. It had been worked out. Let's bring up a couple of other guys. It's only a few letters. It's called the alum. I'm told it's being a... The nature of battle tied this in. Remember, as is pointed out, time is everything in conflict. Time and resource. And what did they do? They denied them time. They mobilized that military force and they did great harm to it in the process, hindering it and taking away part of its ability to fight. That's part of the whole nature of the dance of swords and how it works. Now this doesn't mean we're not putting on. In fact, we're going to try to do everything again to keep as many people alive as possible. Exactly. But in the process, when you're engaging in an action like this, a series of sorties or a series of feints are needed to move the enemy in a certain way. Even politically this works in the real world right now. Every time the enemy is made in action, we have counter struck. We've been on the defensive for a long, long, long time. I'll give another example even politically. The NRA for its vast amount of resources has never truly gone on the offensive effectively to neutralize any gun legislation. Never. It'll make any effort to overturn anything. They just keep dancing back and forth. The enemy proposes and then they counter propose and then they acquiesce part of your rights. So, you are a defensive war, which is a problem. Defensive wars can be fought effectively, provided you understand the long-term goal of bleeding your enemy out like this. Pulling them into a situation, which means you have to give them confidence that they need to commit resources to bring them to a certain battlefield, or to bring them into a kill zone. So, think that way. Don't just think, you know, prepare the line. Now, when we talk about holding the line, we're talking about when we create an ambush point, when we create a contact point. Now, sometimes you don't need a choice. You're in motion, the other side's in motion. That's what I was talking about with the original idea of how things will start, when I've talked about this many times, is what's going to happen is, well, one formation's going to be responding, a militia unit's going to be trying to respond, or it may just be in motion. They're trying not to make contact. They've decided, kind of at Lexington, okay, we've made our move, everybody's done their part, we're going to step away. At some point, whatever variation on this, it's going to be one formation's in motion, you're going to run into a column of bat faggots, a column of UN troops, it's a column of scum, whatever it is that are all together, the Homeland Security, Gestapo, KGB, slash whatever, and they're going to demand They are going to just absolutely just demand, point their weapons, try to be Billy Bad, but you heard the yap down in New Orleans. Well, I didn't think I'd have to shoot Americans. It's like, well guess what, we're the ones that tell you to leave us alone and if you don't, well we aren't pop-up targets. And what's going to happen is that we're going to outgun you. That's the bottom line. The bad guys know this. They're not thinking it through. The only reason that for instance even Waco turned out the way it is is because people hadn't taken the next step yet. That next step has already been demonstrated. If you try to be kind to your enemy, they will murder you. Exactly. That was my point the first quarter hour. Your best bet is if you're going to fight, you fight to win. And then once you've vanquished them, you pick up the pieces. Now, we're not like them. However, of course, again, the biggest problem is going to be once it starts, it will not stop. It's not going to end there. They'll use whatever rhetoric they're going to beat on the drum, they're going to scream, rant, and rave, they're going to come after the weapons, you know, yada, yada, yada. Anything and everything is going to do that. Look what we just saw in the last three months. I mean, my God, you've got dope dealers down in Mexico. We need to disarm the American people. How stupid. Well, let's close the border. Oh, no, we can't do that. anything to disarm the american people so that should tell you something who is the perceived enemy not the dope dealer that's pushing dope down there over the border and certain throats left and right shooting people shoot police officers shoot whoever obviously the government's comfortable with them where they are because they sure as hell are doing anything serious about them if they were we'd shut the border period But the point is instead, oh, it's get the guns from the American people, get the guns from the American people. Everything is as far as, I was just having a conversation with one of our friends about this just only about an hour ago. And everybody can see through all this. So now what we're trying to do is prepare you for what you're going to have to do when you get there. When you're in this. And that's, I think, one of the most complicated aspects. You've got people that are absolutely like, oh my god, it's the end of the world. Oh, they're passing all these laws. Show me the substance of those. Show me how it is that I should be shackled by unjust laws Show me why it is where it is they have any authority to think that they're gonna get away with it there we go Well, they have guns. That's why we're armed too. You know what I trained to be a man of liberty I didn't train just to be someone's dog when I was a soldier I trained because I was fighting I was fighting for your liberty I was so what I was training to do Don that's every man that's honest about it that especially if they went in there because they volunteer of course There's some mercenaries out there But you're supposed to be there to fight for the liberty of the American people, not to oppress or suppress the American people, especially for a bunch of panty-waist like the bunch we're seeing there right now. Don, you're the one that, again, you hit the nail on the head. Be prepared for this. It's hard to put into words. All we can do is bring up examples. You've been around long enough to see a good portion of what we're talking about. We've seen every variation on the theme in people have a way. Oh yeah, I was thinking for the hour about something that we know what they are now, we're in the hour, and to pay a lot of attention, steer a ship even if you're just going to plotly. Well, and one of the reasons I bring that up as far as a wide range of people is too that I've been watching a lot of this stuff written where you know, wow you've got to have this and you need to have that. And now I'm starting to hear this, well those guys over there, we're prettier over here, we've got the cool toys and blah blah blah blah. I've been watching this and I'm going to tell you something. I've watched three different ways of these. People with the cool toys, they buy all kinds of stuff, all they look pretty. And you know what, when the time comes they wet their pants, you turn around and you'll find they're not there. Well Mark, I've got to go right now. I don't wish to believe in that for a reason. God bless. Be careful. And again, the reason I bring this up, guys, is because there's a lot of men and a lot of women don't have much, but they've put everything they have into this fight. And they're not fickle, shall we say, fashion-oriented. One of the things you'll see is the latest toy, the latest gimmick. I didn't even look at this with weapons. If you've got an M1 carbine out there, don't change it. I'm serious. I know you can do it. If you've got an old plane field or maybe a universal you don't care a whole lot about, you can do stuff you want to fiddle with that. But the basic M1 carbine in its military configuration was designed for minimalist purposes. It doesn't hang up on stuff very easily. It's streamlined as it should be. It's functional. The sights work. It's as good a little light rifle as you're going to get for its category. There's no reason to dress it up. It doesn't need an AR-15.0 collapsible stock. It doesn't need a plastic stock. I was looking at some of this stuff and it's like, well, that's nice, but it's not essential. And the same is true of the SKS. A lot of these characters, I've seen some of these comments. It's like, well, you need this and you need that. Well, really, you know what? I'll tell you what. I can take that SKS, that model, about 1962 production model. I'll dot your I head out to 300 yards of that and somebody immediately would go, well, it doesn't have that much energy at 300 yards. Yeah, but if I hit you where I want to, you're going to know you got shot. You know, that old tired car, it looks tired on the outside. Everybody knows this. If you have enough SKS's, they may look tired on the outside because they've been beat on by that poor little rice paddy kid that was running around with it or that Chinaman who was working in the fields 16 days earlier before they pressed him into service wherever he was. When they were done, they threw it back, but you hardly used and built well enough that the rifle works just fine as is, right out of the box, even used. That particular SKS, as you see, it's a straight SKS, original stock, nothing fancy, 10 round mag, it's going to put the bullet right where I want to put it. It works for me. Now, you may need to change the stock. You may need to do something only because, again, there's a thing we've discussed here, it's ergonomics. But you will not hear me ridicule. We joke about, for instance, one of the things, there's always this contest between the 45 and the Glock people guys. The 1911 crew, the Glocks will call them boat anchors, they're heavy metal, lead, whatever. On the other hand, the guys of the 45s are always joking about the plastic guns. But that's, again, that's polite. And the common sense thing is, I don't want to get shot with a Glock, and as you're told, I don't want to get shot with a .45. So both of them respect the weapon. They just have their own philosophy about where they see the application of the arm. But there's a lot of people out there that are purely, it's a matter, it's kind of like buying cars to the point where it's like, well, you don't have the latest widget or gimmick on your, no, and I don't need it. I was trained with, you know, I've been conditioned and trained into a particular school. Now, the conditioning is not bad. It's just that I've been conditioned to take certain actions with a weapon. that allow me to get the best performance out of that firearm that I possibly can. And I understand first the basics of the weapon and its existing design. I will change or improve if I see a certain need. And the only areas where there are improvements that can be made with most of the European or Asian arms is their sights. uh... now stocks purely because some of you guys are getting up to the six foot two six foot three mark with the next generation coming up there's some pretty tall pretty long arm kids out there you know young men and some good-sized girls out there to get some long legs long arms are pretty tall well then you might need to alter change that stock accordingly because you can make it more comfortable and it will ergonomically picture but you don't change it because of your for cosmetic purposes because you're trying to make it look like fill in the blank Looking like something isn't going to get the job done, especially if you find that you have malfunctions, you have other critical issues that need to be addressed or that you create that didn't exist before. One thing I mentioned about weapons is streamlining. Part of this is psychological. This idea, oh, I need to look like that guy that, well, no you don't. Well, if I don't look like him, I'm not cool enough. Oh, I don't need to really worry about cool. In fact, I haven't seen too many pretty combat soldiers. especially after enough time in the field, pretty ain't going to count for Jack when the time comes. But functional is everything. And a lot of your weapons, but also your mindset, it works the same way. There's a lot of stuff that really, really, really isn't going to be either needed or useful on the battlefield that you're facing, simply because, and part of this is something I've addressed before psychologically, the situation in Iraq and even in Afghanistan is unique. First of all, with Iraq, it's desert warfare. Oh, I know they've got some nice areas where they do some plantings and they do have a river or two. But guys, look at the rest of the terrain. And it is unique to the Middle East, unique to the deserts, unique to the type of condition that is native to that area. However, much of what is being applied there will not effectively work in the continental United States in terms of defense. The technologies, especially some of the stuff that's been built, is great as long as you're in a nice pristine office building or working on the door. Everybody's going to be an urban fighter. We're all going to be urban fighters. You all need to ignore all that other stuff. You all kiss my arse on that one. We train all around. We've never trained all in the jungle just as we've never trained completely in urban. We train to integrate our activity. We can transist from rural or from extreme tropical, so to speak, or woods environment, forest environment, whichever it is that you're in, to urban immediately. Then shift right back without any problem whatsoever. There are significant changes that need to be made in how you organize and how you fight. We are diversified. You'll notice, and I want to stress this because this is also psychological, if you notice they keep saying, well it's going to be an urban war, it's going to be an urban this, it's going to be an urban that. Let me ask you something. Okay, now I guess it is going to happen. There's going to be some urban fighting. There's going to be rural fighting. There's going to be a little bit of extreme remote operations that take place simply by the nature of the amount of real estate we have and how big this country is. But let me ask you something. Fighting in an urban area, how much food you got? How long is the water going to last? How much can you pump in? If you're fighting in an urban environment, what do you do to restrict the population's ability to fight? Gee, I don't know. Cut off water first? Cut off food right with it? What are you going to be doing? Cutting chunks of Ching Wao Bing off later on? Making Ching Bao Ling steaks or Ching Bao Ling roasts? Yeah, there's a little deer's cadaver over there. Yeah, chunk of calf. Yeah. See, that's where you go after a while when you throw a whole bunch of people into an urban area and you get into urban fighting and the fighting becomes constant non-stop and becomes dark side of the moon day with no power, no water, whatever. It's bad enough in pretty much any condition. In World War I they could turn any piece of real estate into the dark side of the moon with a combination of two armies facing each other and artillery slugging it out in a very narrow band all up and down central Europe. Well, I should say Western Europe because it was obviously France and into Belgium and then up to even the low ones. So, in this situation, we have to look at some of the other considerations and some of the other issues because of the multiple environments we're in. And this is another part where I'm going to tie in communications today, and we've already been talking about it extensively in the morning. But, signal communications has to be limited. And for the very reasons that everybody, all the smart, you know, we have these characters, well, you know, they're going to track and trace everything. Really? No! Oh, I didn't know that! we just don't know enough about that very wax or low-level short and tactical twin-engine aircraft or countermeasures pods and equipment that are attached to existing fixed-wing aircraft and that can even be deployed with for instance blackhawk helicopters not the Apache but blackhawks we don't know nothing about that mark don't know nothing about picking up the like aviation weekly and just kind of perusing there to see what the updates are for technology don't know how to read don't you know. Yeah right now I'm a Chinese jet pilot too. By the way I'm just joking there because you all know there's a whole bunch of guys that got a little bit of that certain accent. For them I ain't talking about an accent right now. When Mark's talking like this for many of you in the south I have an accent. Okay but the point is either way we really can read and we really do understand the battlefield and we have looked at it but we've also seen it from a realistic perspective in use. What you get from video games or what you see and perceive with Hollywood and all the BS from that direction is not the reality of how things work or showing you how in many cases things don't. Now, signal communications is especially critical in understanding that, and this is something I've always heard, I need something that can really reach out. Let me ask you something, guys. You have a five-man fire team? You have a 10-man squad? You plan on being 50 miles apart? No? I didn't think so. In fact, you're obviously going to be tactically dispersed. But number one, you only want to talk to each other. And so in many cases, you don't want something with too much power, just the reverse. You want to turn the power down, keep the broadcast as local as possible. And even then, when you are using the transmitters, remember phonetic codes or very simple clicks and pips. That's all that's necessary. And even then, timing and SOP are most of what it is, or timing and planning. is most of how you're going to even think to use the transmitters in a close combat tactical situation. Once things are lit up you can start communicating more directly, obviously in whatever battle language you're using and the battle language is in whatever code you've worked out that is convenient and is possible to teach all of your people and that they will easily understand. Most critical is you can be screaming on the radio, they are over there, they are over there, they are over there. I have watched this happen. My God, even with tank crews, they have the same problem. You know, you guys have been tread heads, no, especially older guys. There is a whole process that is conditioned and people go, man, why do they do this? It is so that they do not miss a beat. So that there is no confusion. Gunner, target, tank, 3000 meters. tank, 3,000 meters, loader, hash, hash loaded, one away, boom. There's a whole process of communications there, but it's in a very specific regimen. And it's designed so that each part of the team has the message that they need to integrate and get the job done faster. Now with single communications at the local end, in fact, I didn't even mention this, The little cheapy VHF or UHF hand-helds, little FM radios, the hand-held tiny ones, that are $8-9 dollars. Little GI Joe models will work for a lot of what you're going to do. Now they don't GI Joe, but whatever the bong bao bing, ching bao bong, kao bing, bong bong, chung bing, ahh, wing de. Take your pick. Whatever China Sport piece of equipment is laying around in the big lots. Those can be made to work. However, they're not a telephone. I do not need you to tell me about the color of your fingernails, why you're telling me about the wonderful leaves on the trees. And by the way, there's 20 guys out there, 100 yards, and some of them all seem to be focusing on you now. One guy's got some kind of handheld piece of equipment, and he seems to be just looking right at where you're talking on the phone. No, I mean radio. Oops. So the point is that even with low output, you can still be tracked because it is emitting, obviously, a signal. Oh, I hear a voice. Who do we have in the background? Yes, Spike in Indiana. Oh, well jump in there Spike, go ahead. Just wanted to throw something out there quick. You talked about Waco earlier on the 19th, I figured, and I found a nice little web. Clive Doyle was doing, I don't know who's putting it up, but it's Clive Doyle as the M-T-C-A-R-M-T-C-A-M-E-I-B-A-R-Y. But does it work? In this building. Yeah, it does work. Getting ready, it said it. be I Chuckie the Possum Shumer is really shown for being the disgusting swine that he is in all of those videos. It's like a pig with a possum head. I have absolutely no use for that piece of tripe at all. We know exactly what he's about. We understand the nature of the critter. But if you watch in this, they were desperately trying to engineer anything and everything they could in the way of damage control. and everything became a feces pie. One of the comments that was made is by the lawyers especially and the guys that were supposedly, well they were supposed to be defending, you know, Koresh and the Davidians during the seats. They went in to actually talk to them. And as they pointed out later in these Senate hearings, they changed every time they met, every day that they met, they changed the name of offensive, well actually what they're called is offensive grenades. They use flash bangs. Then they came up with another. Every day they changed the name. Every time they were going in there they were wondering, what are they going to call the grenade today? What are they going to come up with? They had a different goofy name each time that they were trying to use. Even they stumbled because the goof that they came up with made no sense at all. They were trying to figure out what propaganda would work to soften the blow about what they were doing. It's only a flashbang. Well, if you hold that flashbang in your hand, it's going to blow your hand off. Right. Well, what it is... That's old. Well, the problem with that lie is it's called, what I said before, it's called an offensive grenade. When the Germans, here's the thing, do some research on this. Go ahead and just read some of the stuff from World War II or World War I. And the guys comment that, well, they were just, you know, like high explosive grenades, but they didn't have a lot of fragmentation. Well, what they were is they were shot grenades. They were offensive grenades. If you were close enough, they would kill you. But if you don't, they would... Yeah, the purpose behind it was to, again, stun you and in the process move in close, fire and bayonet. That's what the assault troops or storm troops were about. We had our version of it. We had World War I. We had Marines. We had Grenadiers, Pouches, Vests. that carried anywhere from 11 to 18 depending on what model it was you had. And their sole job was to move forward heaving grenades like a poor man's mortar at close range to stun while they were on the offensive. And you've got to remember most people think well we were using American grenades. No, that's not true. We used as many French and British grenades under the French and British philosophy of trench warfare at that time. We altered it because we found a lot of it was a loser. We modified it to our American standard and came up with a much better way to just simply throw stuff until there wasn't any place left to hide. We did the same thing. We closed it in close order, used both the buttstock and the bayonet, and of course, whatever other knuckle dusters and everything else, we had at our disposal in the brawl. But to get in close and to stun the aggressor, offensive grenades were used. In fact, they brought a whole bunch of them back from the war and then buried them all over the place in the US. So, the idea that they make this sound, it's a flash pangering, they make it sound like it's a firecracker, that's what they want everybody to think. That was part of the, even years ago when they did this, that was designed for propaganda purposes because you had some rubber lip who was engineering this BS so that everybody would feel comfortable with the SWAT teams throwing grenades left and right. The bottom line is they're offensive grenades. An offensive grenade has to have a smaller burst radius because you're on the move and you can't afford to have it take out the whole unit. A defensive grenade has a burst radius of about 30 feet. Within that 30 feet, you will either be wounded or if you are close enough, KIAID, depending upon how much fragmentation, how close you are determines how much more fragmentation makes contact with you. The grenade can have anything from spliced, I should say, forgive me. Snipped copper wire to snip steel hardened cable Fragment a fragmented iron. There's any number of different systems But the idea is to serate the stuff so that when the blast takes place a uniform wave of material creates a uniform kill or wound zone around the grenade Offensive grenades have a smaller burst radius so that you can continue to move throw the grenade and as you're advancing you won't walk into the burst of the weapon you threw if you do it, right If not, that way they made them shape the way they did with all the little, you know, little squares. That was the mark, it was a copy of one of the British designs, everybody calls that the pineapple. In theory that was supposed to work and it does to a degree, but it's purely a matter of the quality of the tempering of the grenade body. And so one of the things they learned is to serrate not the outside, but to serrate the inside. Now, depending on the type of grenade that it is, another trick, as I said, mentioned copper wire, is you use basically the equivalent to the same machine that's used for doing wire motor wrapping. You know, when you do the windings. only instead what you do is there's another machine in there that notches what it is little clipper it doesn't cut all the way through it's designed only to crimp the wire and as the wire is wrapped around and crimped what it does it creates a uniform series of little wire fragments now we're not talking fine wire we're talking larger gauge in the more sophisticated versions like the Dutch grenades for instance it's a little small they're almost the size of a ping pong ball or golf ball they're very effective very compact One of the techniques that they've used is frangible obviously frangible serrated metal or the other technique which is also used as some of the other grenades the Germans do is heated steel wire which is rolled stacked on top of itself and also notched and then it's tempered so that it becomes brittle. It's intentionally tempered just enough so that what happens is it fractures along the path of least resistance, which is where the cuts are, in the steel rod, which has been made malleable and wrapped around a charge, which is inserted in the middle. It's purely a matter of nationality and, again, the engineers they've got. One thing to remember is offensive grenades. Let me give you an example. How many of you have seen the movie Gallipoli with Mel Gibson? Remember that movie? Okay. You might recall there's a scene where Mel Gibson and the guys are sitting there and they remember Gallipoli was constantly under fire. It was just like Anzio for the US. And the guys are sitting there with cans. And you might notice that they're like food cans. But they're taking empty brass cases and dumping them in the cans. And then they're putting another cap on with a grenade fuse. Now, they were showing you a variation on what was the French, what we used to call the tomato grenade or the tomato can grenade. What they did is they sent cases of stewed tomatoes to the front. But with the thing or on another package came an ordinance trailer with a special kit that was designed so that what you did is once you used the tomato cans, once you had your meal, Then you turned around, cleaned out the cans, let them dry, and then you turned around and filled them with explosive charge. They had shot or you used cartridges or you used stones or whatever you had. Then you put the cap on the thing, lock it into place, tap it into place. It was a number of different fixtures. You had a pull pin grenade made out of a tomato can. All the parts came to you in the front and you built it on the front. A lot of guys don't realize that all this prefabricated stuff you see today was not the norm for our day, but not the norm for troops of World War I or say even in World War II where there were many different solutions that were brought forward because there is a lot of junk that piles up on the battlefield. Think about it guys, how many times have you been to the range? How many pieces of metal are laying there just waiting to be picked up? Now you throw those with a charger on them and that's pretty messy for the guy that gets caught by that stuff What do they call them now? IEDs improvised explosive devices exactly but in the past everybody did that Yeah, I got a fancy name now. Yeah now it's not notice the other day I was on hold and I was waiting to talk and I got dropped me and it just happened again and they're listening to you talking all of a sudden that said call interesting so yeah, we have a lot of people listening or somebody decided they just don't like your phone and Well anyway, just ideas. The whole thing, again this took us out of tangent from the whole thing about the Branch Davidians. Go ahead and give that a say it out again. Anybody would like to check that out. I recommend that you do it. Obviously there's a lot of original material there. It is worth looking at. It's worth saving by the way. Grab a carousel of disks and I would ask anybody who can save this information, pull it down and make your own library up. Let's not let this stuff just disappear into the memory hole. I'm surprised that they're talking about closing the site down anyway. Was there a reason? Well, it's just the downloaded part I've already done and over with, but I just need to still download them so they could get it because it's from the government, from all the news places. Like I said, I call him personally and thank him for putting it in just to be able to talk to him and speak with you. It's interesting that there's been no closure. There really isn't any. They've had several hearings and all they did is bury themselves deeper and deeper with every hearing and finally they threw their hands up in the air because they realized they couldn't talk their way out of it. One of the things that people don't understand is that many people in the military community knew how they were lying and as more people were able to discover they found out especially about the explosives that were used. There's no doubt that the government used massive quantities of combustible CS, period. In fact, the FBI, to conceal it, we're looking at, and everybody knows, and this is what really got me about this, they intentionally marked CS canisters, CS grenades, as silencers to try and stack up the BS. And I'm going to tell you guys, if there's a forensic person that put that on a file looking at a CS grenade because anybody who has dealt with smoke grenades or tear gas grenades and you have to remember all these forensics jackasses that you are talking about with this federal facility they all have handled them guys. That is part of basic forensics 101 is this kind of simple ordinance and to grab something like a CS canister that is very obviously a CS canister or it's either a smoke projector or it's a CS-CM projector. That's all there is to it. What I mean by that is the canister has holes designed to allow for the discharge of a combustible agent. The only variation on this, and this is why I will warn everybody on the air again, I don't want to see any nonsense where you hold anything that is a pyrotechnic or a grenade in your hand after you have pulled the pin and let go of the clapper. There is a reason for this, two actually. Number one, Mr. Grenade is not your friend. You do not know if Sally, who was working on the plant line on Friday, didn't have a hot date that night, and at 11 o'clock when she was supposed to take care of that last line of fuses, she decided that because the insert fuse system was a little short, she'd cut the fuses shorter so she didn't have to pick up a new roll and put it in the machine. And so you thought you had a, say, a three to five second delay, and you might have a one to no second delay. It could be just he felt Ralph had a bad hair day. Ralph wasn't feeling good. He had a little bad indigestion. He was supposed to be building training fuses. His fuses turned out to be combat fuses. Big difference in duration, okay? You think you're going to have it on the box through. That's right. Throw away from you. Now that's number one. You don't know if somebody is going to have a bad day at the factory. It could be first of the week, it could be last of the week, or it could be that he didn't call in sick but he came to work anyway and he's seeing cross-eyed and everything is cut half as short as it should be. That's number one. Number two is pyrotechnics and demolition equipment gets old. Remember that you're dealing with combustibles or high velocity explosives. Now combustibles were designed so that the chemicals react in a certain way. Now they can be mixed properly and they can be heated properly for final fixture. But what happens is sometimes the crystals are still green and are growing. And what happens is the chemical composition over a period of time will change its nature. with CS and CN grenades and with any kind of smoke grenade you will have a pyrotechnic response that doesn't just burn but you may have an explosive charge, you may have a high velocity response. It's not going to be like a regular grenade. You're not going to have this massive burst radius but what will happen is that you'll have a blowout in the side of the canister. Now this can be with smoke grenades that are quite old. We've dealt with stuff that's been anywhere from 10 years, 20 years, 30 years. I fired tons of World War II illumination flares and we've used CSCN from as far back as 1944-45. While it works and is serviceable, I would use the stuff I carry, especially if it's all you got. Hey, you throw it. You don't pull the pin, let the clapper go, and then throw it once you think it's burning. The reason is, when you let that clapper go, what you have is a small firearm. That is the best way to describe this in your hand. That clapper, when you let go of the spoon disappears, it springs away from the system. That's because there is a firing pin and a hammer underneath that clapper that's being held back under tension. As you let go of the spoon, the spoon flies away and the hammer comes around in that little firing bin, pops a snap cap, pops a cap, a blasting cap, well not a blasting cap, it's actually a primer cap. And what that does is that activates the fuse for the system. Now with a CSCN grenade or with a smoke grenade, it's creating a burn. It actually activates a burn element that activates the combustible, whatever it is. It can be smoke, it can be CSCN, you have a propellant that gets that into the air. Either way, that stuff is burning. However, if it changed in composition, instead of burning, you get an initial burst. Forgive me. and it may come out the side of the canister anywhere. I have this on film in two different occasions and in both cases I was the operator. Now the good thing is Mark threw it. If I had done what you all, this is going to be like Hollywood, man. I'm on film. I'm going to look cool. Well, if I had done what you, again, broken policy, Mark probably would be missing well, either the ring finger or the little finger, and maybe more, because of the way these things blew out. This was regular active training. This was actually with the military at the time. So, guys, you can't say it doesn't happen. I'm passing on first hand experience because we work with a wide range of ordnance. Mark, go ahead. There's a third reason why you want to throw those things. And that is that something may go boom in your vicinity or if you are on the bad guy's side, some idiot may poke you in the ribs and say, what about the Cowboys came next week and you get startled and drop the thing. As soon as you've got that, you want to get it out of your hand. Right. We get it away so... well, that gets into the... Accidents happen. That gets in the initiator too. Remember, Mr. Grenade is not your friend and there is no such thing as friendly fire. If, no matter whose trigger you pull or no matter what grenade or mortar round or whatever is used, even if it was shot by your guys, if it's too close, it's very embarrassing for all involved. No matter who you are, the name on the equipment that's being launched doesn't mean any make any difference once it's left the tube. especially with Mr. Grenade or any pyrotechnic, whatever material you got. The basic rule, throw it to where you planned on throwing it. Trust me, it will work. Sometimes even better than you expected. As soon as that pin is pulled, do you want it gone? Anyway, we got Spike there. Spike, you're all set. Anything else? Please. I had one other thing to throw out to think about. As an older guy, a few years back when they were young, him and his brother had one of those BB rifles. There's no way to stop it unless you blow it out of its position, but otherwise say they fixed position or used in a controlled manner where you plan on abandoning it or it's only used for a very narrow and specific application would be very useful. Of course anywhere you could, for instance, a hallway, a stairwell, any defensive position in say an alley. situation where you could also just bolt it into place, leave it rigid, and then when you pull the trigger you just lock it back and she just goes and goes and goes and goes and goes and goes and goes and goes and goes and goes until it jams up and if it does, hey, you're not out that much but it did a hell of a good job of keeping everybody busy. Especially at HUOM you could point across people into that. Well it works like a stupid idea. By the time you know it also works like a scissors if you do it right. Well if you had a whole stack of guys running along in a row and then you switch it on at about thigh height. Yep. There you go. The legs are really soft, chewy spots and really embarrassing when hit by copious amounts of 177 caliber BB. Or 22. Could you imagine that? Back in the hospital they'd be like, what happened? It was like a buzz saw. You called the BBs. Either that or they're just like you said. It's like cutting trees. Only legs don't hold up as well. It would be like stumpy things on one side maybe. I don't care if they fall on one side. I just want them to fall. Butter knife. I have your on the intelligencereport.co.cc as well. Oh, neat. I need to update that one. The more exposure it gets, the more people can download it, the better off we are. I downloaded it right out of the box. you told people to go get it last week and I figured the more places we have it the better off people will be. I didn't get lost. Spike got lost again. Somebody was after Butter Knife and they got Spike's phone in. This is interesting. That's twice in the same hour for him though too. We're going to have to keep an eye on that. That's a response we've never seen before. Anyway, I'll check it out. Well, there's communications Tuesday, so we're going to have to find out more about that with regard to our call-ins. We'll see what we can. But, but, Butterknife, we are getting close. I know we're going to hear the music in a second. You want to stick around, or I know you've probably got more. Yeah, I have a couple of items, and let's do them at the top of the next hour. That sounds good. Okay, I'll tell you what. Otherwise, guys, again, I know we were in several different tracks here, but as soon as we can get people up, especially if you've got input. I hear the music. We try to get him up on my mind, so forgive us if we missed somebody this last hour. Hey, give us a call to the next fellow, okay? We're gonna go for now, uh, take about a six minute break. As always, God bless the Republic. Just for the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. 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