May 8, 2009
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1h 2m
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Mark Koernke discussed militia training exercises and preparedness, including a Texas training event on May 15th featuring Airsoft and live fire components. The show covered ammunition conservation through phased training methods, the importance of teamwork in small unit tactics, and the 5-10 supply program for equipping fire teams. Callers reported on an assault weapons ban being reintroduced by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand and criticized NRA leadership for past compromises. The episode also addressed economic indicators including stock market movements, precious metals prices, and concerns about pandemic preparedness and the detox formula.
- militia training
- airsoft
- fire team
- assault weapons ban
- kirsten gillibrand
- nra
- second amendment
- ammunition conservation
- small unit tactics
- preparedness
- detox formula
- swine flu
- texas militia
- 5-10 program
- liberty tree radio
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If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, dill the land of the free? And good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Horkie, one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories south, central, east, and northwest. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on Liberty Tree Radio dot 4mg dot com and we're also on PBN dot 4mg dot com. We're on AM&FM micro stations, CB Bay stations, alternate technologies east and west of the Mississippi, southern and central Alaska. And we're on the Hallmark network on the eastern seaboard, 8 colonial states, and many other tendrils locations across the whole of the eastern seaboard. and expanding into Ohio. The Golden Spike program is coming up here pretty soon where all of these independent nets separate from the internet will be coming together and we'll let you know when that happens. We've got to wait for the guys to let us know. The guys and girls doing the job. It's their mission, their task, not ours. We're just going to be reporting it as it happens. Today's date, by the way, is the 8th of I was going to say October. That would be 8th of October. Why did that stick in? Something wrong there. Anyway, 8th of May, year zero, 2009. It is a beautiful day outside, although it's been a little cloudy down this end, but it has not been threatening rain-wise. It's been medium altitude, gray and white, enough light to activate the solar panels, not to a great deal, but enough to keep everything charged up. and enough to keep all of our remote technologies charged with their solar panels. I've been checking those, doing some little research with some new projects. So we are going into the weekend with activities all over the country and I'm going to ask, first of all, for all of our drivers headed home, take your time. Don't think about the barbecue. No, don't think about what you're going to be doing tonight when everybody comes over for whatever meetings you have. or just going out with a family or whatever, take your time, focus beyond the hood, that way you're not one of the numbers that are one of the many casualties for this weekend. We do not want to see that happen. Also, when you get into the field, remember, I don't care what type of training aid you're using. Train as you will fight for you will fight as you have trained. Nothing that you are carrying is a toy. Nothing that you are carrying is a toy. Even if you're using Airsoft, How you condition yourself with the training aids that you have available will determine how you will perform in the future. And we don't want you to zip in back and forth. Treat all of your training aids as weapons. They are. That way when the time comes you will perform that much more efficiently. Airsoft is a beautiful way to train. It's an excellent solution. Use it. Now, other things that are going on. Well, we do have a couple of exercises this weekend, but Naga-Hitcham range 2 is open. Range 3 is closed. Range 3 at Naga-Hitcham is closed for maintenance and preparation for the long-range matches. Some new technology is being put in, which everybody is going to have some fun with there for familiarization. That will not be part of the qualifications. We're going to be teaching people a little bit about fire and maneuver and how when the bad guys are maneuvering on you, what your opportunity window is with regard to engaging at specific ranges. Range 2 will be light rifle and general weapons familiarization this weekend. We have the 9th regimental combat team, Colonial Marines. We've got two militia at large companies. and several independent groups are going to be there this weekend. I would ask again, everybody stay focused. Point the weapons downrange. If you're a muzzle dragger or if you believe in the traditional snap shooting, either way, remember, downrange is the key. That's the final base of this. Always keep it up and away from you. Do not point your weapon at somebody unless you plan on shooting them. You don't play with it. You don't, they're not toys. None of them are toys. We're going to be doing a very special video here that will be done next week. And it's going to be on the four phases of familiarization and training with arms. And include simple walkthroughs. Then phase one with simulator slash wood mockups can be whatever you want. Broom sticks, I don't care. Then in phase 3, airsoft and final phase weapons familiarization starting with phase 1 live fire with a walk through and then advanced fire and maneuver. This is critical to overall training but we do this in steps. Now there's a reason we're doing this in steps, obviously getting people conditioned to the process but the other half of this is cost in ammo. Guys, you know, you're pulling a trigger and you dump a dollar every time you pull a trigger, that's kind of ouchy on the wallet. Okay, real quick. So everybody has to be thinking about conserving ammunition. We're going to demonstrate to you how this works and how efficient a system you can come up with where everybody, I don't care if it's children, I don't care if it's women, I don't care if it's combatants or non-combatants, Everybody will benefit from this training cycle process. It's something we've been asked to deal with because there are many variations on this. We've seen a lot of snide comments about Airsoft and I'm going to tell you what guys, the government came up with Airsoft before everybody had Airsoft. It's just that most people don't know it. The program was put in place. The guys loved it. The people that experimented with the system back in the early 70s loved the system. But it was nixed and put on the shelf because the bean counters didn't want to have to maintain it. And I think personally it's because also the traders we had in the system knew that this would be an effective training system. Now a little history here real quick. During the 50s, 60s, and 70s, Germany came up with a plastic bullet system. Rather than a whole separate weapon system that was a simulator, they actually came up with plastic bullets to conserve ammunition and money, and of course for safety with indoor ranges with your MBRs. Now there are a couple companies out there, if you look around, that have, and I think, you're going to have to slap me, but I think AIM surplus, is one of the companies that may have, and I think COPES might be another, that has some of the plastic bullets made by the Germans. Now, they're not just bullets, they're plastic cartridges. The base of the cartridge was steel and it was copper washed, uses a standard primer, uses a very light powder charge, and fires a very light bullet for busting paper. This was a small version of the idea of coming up with an airsoft type system where it would fire a bullet. Oh, a plastic bullet. Yes, but it was able to work the action. Or at the very least was allowing for you to go through the motion with rifle accuracy, rifle marksmanship training, and coming up with an end result where you could see through physical demonstration whether or not you did everything right. That's the whole purpose behind putting a pellet down range. is so that when you're training an individual, you can confirm, yep, you did that right or nope, I didn't see anything go down. Let's try that again. You don't get upset, you don't ridicule. What you do is you teach and you coach and you're all supposed to be on the same side. We're not trying to belittle anybody, we're not trying to attack anybody, we are trying to teach individuals. All of you must think that way. And that's one of our primary goals when we get out on the range. I do not want to hear about people being flustered. I do not want to hear about people being hurt because they were not properly coached in the use of the weapon they put to their shoulder. You all have a job to do and you need to be responsible in the process. Now I'll tell you what, I know waiting in the wings here we have a caller already. We have Mike Lewis from Texas. And Mike, you're going to bring us up to speed on what all is going on down there. Yes, sir, Mark. We're having a training exercise one week from today. It will be May 15th and it will be in the College Station area and we're going to let people start at 7 p.m. Friday night. You can get there anytime Friday night as early as 7 p.m. and for people to do show up by 9 p.m. Friday night we will have a night operation and we'll have training all day Saturday and we will be using Airsoft. You can get Airsoft rifles that are executed like a G3, an AK, an AR, M16. and they are good training tools and they're way cheaper to shoot than a regular rifle and we have night operations and airsoft have that greater range but at night you can't see that far and they're really great training for night operations and uh... Sunday morning uh... we will have live fire with rifle and handgun we will have one hundred yard rifle qualification open and we'll have the pistol range open and we know ammunition is sky high now and hard to get So people can use a .22 if they want or they can use their battle rifle. Hope everyone will at least qualify with their battle rifle. Some of these Airsoft pistols, they also recoil. The slide flies right back just like a regular 1911. For training in patrol, if the man in front of you in a line formation is shooting right handed, you want to shoot left handed. Airsoft is great for shooting left handed. you won't always find right hand corners. You need to shoot with your left hand around the left hand corner so you don't expose yourself. The key point there is exposure is everything, guys. If you present the opportunity, let me put it this way. Someone's going to shoot you. Keep that in mind. Go ahead, Mike, please. Yes, sir. And like Don says, the learning curve on a battlefield is very steep. Your first mistake in a battle can be your last mistake. We want to do like Don says, train the way we will fight. So we will find exercises on a 300 acre private ranch and it's by invitation. So if you send us an email, we can send you an invitation. Find the email, go to our website. Our website is texasmasha.info. There's no debuts in front of that. Just text us what we're all about. Any training exercises at the same location, weekend, and we are having the Friday night, winter after. We'll show up on Friday by 9. by 9am and we'll be going to like 2 o'clock in the afternoon and that will give, you have to drive several hundred miles because Texas is very good now. Go ahead and give all the information out for contact again to include your, again, email. If somebody wants to give you an email, do that slowly, slowly and precisely three more times, please. Yes sir. Okay, to get an invitation you send us an email. To get our email you go to our website. Our website is Texas with no debbies in front of us. It's Texas T-X-A-S militia. And again, for anybody out there listening, this is an opportunity to train as a team, which is the other half of what we have to take into consideration. Guys, you want to be doing this now. The difference between a lone person, a hunter, or somebody working on their own. Doesn't mean you can't. It doesn't mean you can't be effective. But if you have a number of people available, the difference between confusion and effective firepower is teamwork. And guys, you have the opportunity in advance to prepare and train for what's coming. So there's an opportunity here and it can be in any form. I mean, number one, remember, is communication is half the battle. Being able to talk to each other, being able to, or at the very least, with standard operating procedure, know that each man is going to do their job, do their part. This is especially critical in the combined arms team where not only do you have riflemen, but grenadiers, automatic riflemen, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Go right down the list. The small unit combined arms team has the ability to pretty well command its area of operation provided it is in sync. And that's what training operations like this are all about. So one more time, give out the email again. Texas militia.info is the web page. Go to our web page and send us an email. The web page is Texas.info. We will be teaching the art of fire maneuver, how to fight as a team. If you can fight as a team, you'll be way ahead of the game and better able to implement Mark's 5-10 plan if you can fight as a team. I will remind everybody that supply and support, the 510 program is where we are putting together enough gear first for a five man fire team and then we work up into supplying a squad. One of the coolest things you can use for that are these big large mouth blue barrels. Now you can use other systems but the nice thing about the blue barrels is that You are able to plug everything in, put it in the container, I would bag everything up and seal everything up separately, then put it in the container, stack it, pack it as best you can. And when you put that lid on, you've got it sealed from the environment, you've got everything that three or five men would need top to bottom from their underpants. to their socks, to their clothing, to their boots if possible, gas masks, web gear, and even weapons if need be. Of course they might be stored in a different, it's like a B package. You have an A package for clothing and web gear and equipment, and then a B package which would be arms and ammunition. So that's the way, there are several different ways it's done depending upon how the equipment is cached. In many cases, guys actually pack the weapons and ammunition with the gear, But if you do that, remember, tiers of protection. If the container were compromised, would the equipment inside still be protected to a degree? That is critical. We need to see that happen. So most important is to think ahead and don't reinvent the wheel. Government came up with all kinds of storage systems and such. If you look at how they did it, and they did it because we fight in every environment on the planet or we have, mimic what they've done. Don't reinvent the wheel. Learn from somebody else's tens of billions of dollars in research. In fact, it's kind of sad. We have to relearn every once in a while in the system because of that. World War II, all kinds of things were researched, developed, and then re-engineered, only to find that the fools lost everything. They intentionally said, oh, I've got a better idea. And of course, then they fumbled the ball, but they didn't re-adopt the technology that worked. And so we've seen a gradual slide down into the abyss with certain areas or certain categories of supply and support that we don't need to, we're not going to get into that today here per se, but there's still a lot of stuff that can be done. Mark, as long as we've got Mike on the line. Mike, you still there? Yes, sir. Hi, Ed. All right. Well, I don't know. You've been listening to the hours? Yes, sir. Okay. You know what's coming up in the next hour, right? At 8 o'clock. No, from... spot from seven to eight. It's a militia town hall meeting on LTR where guys can call in and get their information out. If you want to be one of the callers, we'd love to have Texas represented. Okay, I sure will. It'll be right here on this line and give your information out again there for everyone. If you want to bring up to or have participated, that would be fantastic. I know George is listening from down there, Texas Way. There's another gentleman. I know we have people all over the country, this gives everybody a chance to interact and do it directly. You guys are basically going to be the ones running the program. Of course, now there's a moderator, but it's still the idea that everybody can share information. We can pass on date, times, and places. Ideas about how we've performed and how well those actions have taken place, what works and what doesn't work under certain conditions. and then everybody can apply their working knowledge accordingly but you don't have to again reinvent the wheel. Everybody can help to put the wheel together from many hands making for light work. So on that note again that will be from 7 to 8, well actually right after this hour to be quite honest we are only about 40 minutes away but that will be the militia town hall meeting from 7 to 8 pm on Fridays on a regular basis. Also, we have a new blog, libertytree-blog.com. Something just on survival, escape and evasion. Maybe something about just gear and equipment or vehicles. Could be anything. We've got a wide range of subjects that we're having to deal with. Our combined arms team uses everything. And that's just how it works. So everything you do to pitch in, share something, it may have been a problem and you came up with a solution, you've come up with a solution, that will work just fine. There we go. Proper ignition. Well, real quick, Mark, Kurt did a wonderful job on that site. I don't know if you've had a chance to check it out. I've already had the opportunity to do a couple of postings there. Got to play with the tools and he walked me through it. It's a very nice site We're gonna be giving poker face and a couple of the other Patriot bands access to the site so they can post information on when they're performing and whatnot too. So the blogs gonna be a pretty neat page once we're done with all the people we'll have collaborating on that blog page. Very good and again, let's see make take the time make a point of getting out there and passing the information on about how to connect. Anything else, Mike? No, sir. God bless you and your family, Mark. Everyone in the militia movement really appreciates all the corkeys. What a problem. Hey, real quick. You're down there in Texas. I know every time we get a chance. What's the story down there? What are we seeing in the control press down there at your end of the nation with regard to the border situation? Are they talking at all about the drug lords down there anymore? Is there anything in the news down there about that? Oh, we might have lost Mike. I think we did. I don't see his number on the... Well, it sounds like we might have another caller. Do we have another caller? Hello, Mark. There we go. I can hear other noise in the background, so go right ahead, please. I don't think that's not hear about him. This is Andrew from Ohio. Hey, Andrew, go ahead. Yeah, the commies are... I don't know if you've heard, but the commies are pushing the assault weapons ban again. It's being pushed by the newly appointed Senator from New York, Kirsten Gillibrand, who is described here as a one-time NRA favorite. Hold on real quick, can we qualify that? Okay, the NRA are the people who gave us the assault weapons ban the last time, and when that was going on, those idiots were sponsoring people who were flat-out anti-gun. They sponsored anti-gun people over good Americans who could have won the election and would have been totally pro-firearm. So as far as I'm concerned, getting high points from the NRA isn't exactly a critical issue as far as determining whether or not somebody is decent within the firearms circles. Go ahead, please. I'm sorry. Yes, it's the same garbage all over again. This is just a rerun of the 90s. a rag up in new york newsday dot com it says gillibrand to face another test on gun control uh... the date is made six two thousand nine that the center appointment to the senate one-time and are a favorite kirsten gillibrand has passed just about every test on guns set by representative carolyn mccarthy but that might change next week at the junior senator from new york the upstate democrat has undergone a transformation moving quickly in the past three months away from her house record that won the NRA's top rating while remaining supporter of Second Amendment rights to gun ownership. She even jumped ahead of McCarthy who reintroduced her bill closing the gun show loophole at a news conference Wednesday by cosponsoring the Senate version of that measure two weeks ago. But McCarthy said that next week she plans to reintroduce an assault weapons ban legislation that is anathema to the NRA and that could pose a problem for Gillibrand. I think the assault weapons bill will be a test, McCarthy said Wednesday in an interview. Gillibrand had no comment Wednesday on legislation that hasn't been introduced, said her spokesman Matt Cancer. The senator is focused on working with anti-crime advocates, New Yorkers against gun violence, the Brady campaign, and New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly and others on anti-trafficking legislation to stop the flow of illegal guns, he said. Read that. Criminals for disarming the population they plan to rob, cheat, and steal. And it just hit me here, I'm reading it again, it said her spokes by Matt Cancer. That sounds like an ADL type. Oh yes, well actually the whole thing, we're all operation, but what I understand everybody that's had dealings with that site, with their office, it's gets kosher mafia across the board. So that's not a surprise, but I mean, gee, like who'd have bunk it, you know? Go ahead Andrew, I'm sorry. Yeah, I can put the article in the chat room at libertytreeradio.4mg.com, but I was wanting to let everybody know the commies are starting this BS again. Now, keep in mind that this is the same individual who swapped spit with the NRA and they together concealed the Veterans Disarmament Bill and passed it without letting anybody know on a non-business day. Between them, Pelosi. This is the same character who pushed that through and screwed all the veterans that are listening right now, all the troops that are listening, and they're trying to make them enemies of the state, etc. Again, everybody has to be paying attention to this because the other half of the problem is the NRA promoted it. In their offices, Mr. Lippi Ayer, the same person helped to give you the assault weapons ban, his counterpart, Mr. Biden, the two of them got together, squeezed each other's rumpus in a dark corner of a room. screwed everybody in the process and create all kinds of troubles for the american people gee the same clicks added again all there is planned opposition so uh... the rank and file or one thing but the people that we have that are in the area of management and are arrogant buggers who have no interest in your firearms rights all their interest in is keeping the glass palace clean other words by more windex don't work on actually stopping legislation or if they do anything they'll help put grease on the wheels to make it go faster So, we have to be ready for that. Again, go ahead and give out the information for the legislation. Make sure we have all the database there so everybody knows what to look for. They haven't given the bill number yet. They haven't introduced it yet, but they said they're looking to get this started next week. But obviously, the NRA has got their hand in this, and this is also the woman who got appointed to the Senate seat at Caroline Kennedy. was had her eyes on and they told Caroline Kennedy to step aside. So they're putting this woman up to doing a lot of their dirty work and it's the Senate seat that Hillary Clinton had. It's the same seat, yes. In fact, everybody we talked to from New York said, well, she lied to us. She was nothing like she said she was going to be. She lied. And we had to laugh and say, well, she's a Clintonista. I mean, come on. How can you tell when the Clintons are lying? It's when their mouths will open, but that's true of pretty much all the liberals anyway. So gee. Everybody was in the outstate area, she went around, Hillary went around, Hillary the Hutt went around and was telling everybody, told them anything they wanted to hear. Which shouldn't have been a surprise with these poly-tic individuals. Anyway, afterwards when she got in office, the only thing she cared about was New York and everybody else was screwed. Yeah, well what a surprise. I'm telling you, what do you think the money came from? Oi, I'm telling you. So, anyway, we need to pay attention. We are going to obviously see this in motion. I'm going to be fascinated to see how these characters do. They're not after the guns, you know, nonsense anymore. The only people who have been prattling that are the Obamaites or the ultra liberals who thought we were all asleep. An example is back when everybody started buying the weapons, the ones who were screaming and ranting and raving were all the anti-gun lawyers. They were going, oh you don't need to buy weapons. No, no, look we had this Supreme Court ruling. Oi, I'm telling you. And everybody's like, yeah, well that doesn't mean anything. It's 400 pages of gobbledygook and BS and everybody knows it. And there was no Supreme Court ruling. It did not support anything. All it did was maintain the same fog and gobbledygook they've been doing for the longest time. And the bottom line is it said, yeah, but we can come after the guns. And that's what they're trying. So, nobody believed them. Nobody believes them now. They're going to try and go after and grab whatever they're going to grab. People aren't buying all this ammunition and weapons so they can use them for door weights, use them for door stops. There is a reason that when you watch the guys that are leaving the show, pallets of ammunition, carts of ammunition, pallets of parts, five guys walking out, or I should say three guys walking out with five M250 caliber barrels, spare parts. And then they came back in and got another couple of pallets of ammo. What a surprise. Anyway, Andrew, anything else? Well, that's everything. I appreciate it. How are things looking down there today? Got a nice rainy day down here. Oh, we must have sent the rain your way and we kept a little bit of the dry weather. Not much. It's still moist outside, but it's just not wet, not raining. But we got a lot of humidity in the air. So hopefully it'll dry up maybe for the day. That means we'll send the rest of our rain down to you. Oh, that's not good enough. That's good. I like the cold and the rain that keeps all the idiots inside. That's true. That's exactly the point. Oh, they aren't out of the street corner anyway and they sure as hell aren't causing trouble. On that note, they used to do this. You know, Mel Coleman Young used to talk about crime free Detroit. Now everybody loves Mel Coleman Young. And I'm not, well, I'm talking right now. It's the way that Mel Coleman had a little bit of a lift. The night that he was posted in crime-free Detroit with the governor of Michigan and the top of the Renaissance Center was the same day that some of the people who were, shall we say, of criminal mind in the Detroit area, they stole the governor's limousine with a couple of oozees and a bunch of pistols in it. The governor was not amused, rather entertaining to say the least, in a stretch limo like that. Well, the only way he would do it is he would wait until winter hit and they are right off the river there and they get that really bitter cold wind just like they do in Chicago. Oh my goodness, ain't nobody out on the streets. So it's true, crime was down. They always do that. Well, you know, for the month of December and January, crime was down in the city of Detroit. Well, that's because everybody that was doing crime is indoors where you can't see them. And that's how it works. whole process of engineered lies to this that they use in a regular basis. We see it all over. But like you said, with the rain or the cold, at least it gets them indoors and out of your way. You can actually go and get stuff done. Appreciate the call. Anything else you want to cover? Oh, that's everything. Thank you, sir. If you can, go into the chat room, yes, and post that for everybody so we'll know where to look. Yeah, I'm in there now. I'm in the process doing that. Oh, okay, very good. In fact, I've got another posting in here that we, somebody else just threw up there, too. We are going to be at the Ham Fest. I assume you are going to be there too, correct? Yeah, what day are you going? We are all trying to work that out because obviously we have to be able to coordinate that with certain things that Ed has to take care of. We might even have to break down and just be there on Sunday. Anybody that can make it any other days means we can overlap and get more info out too, which is what we need to do. So, ideally we'll try to link up. Of course that's not too far from you now, so you might be able to make it more than one day. Oh yeah, yeah, it's just 50 miles up the road from you. Let me see, we can back here. So what we'll do is if, no matter what, like I said, we'll work out which data we're going to be using and then we'll let everybody else know what we can plug in. Sound good? Yeah, just let me know the day, I'll be there. Okay, very good. Thank you Andrew. Alright, thanks a lot. Okay, bye bye. And I think I heard other noise. Do we have another caller? I know I heard other noise in the background. That could just be Mark in his imagination. But anyway, real quick here for all of our friends at libertytreeradio.4mg.com, if you get a chance, and if you're looking for other ways to hook up, you may be listening on live 365, and it's a little scratchy here and there because of bandwidth. We know that we're hitting maximum numbers constantly, guys. So, some of our friends have put up reflectors. This means you can go to other sites and take a little weight off of the bandwidth consumption for Live 365. This allows other people to get up and online that may be listening for the first time and you get a really clean connection too. So, go to libertytreeradio.4mg.com. That's libertytreeradio.4mg.com. And then, go to Our chat room, when you get in there, talk to the guys and gals that are online and you can connect with them and hook up with one of the other reflectors or if you're creative, you might even be able to set one up yourself or you may already have one and have some fun in the process. Getting people connected, listen to the rebroadcast and other forums, we literally are in so many venues, we really, we don't know them all. That is an honest statement, guys. We have so many different ways that people are rebroadcasting. Some of them I'm fascinated by because the alternate and the hallmark net are... We see a reflection in response when I look at certain numbers. There are stuff that we can monitor where as the rebroadcasts are done throughout a day or a couple of days, you can see certain spikes in activity which is fantastic because that's what we want. But it is interesting how many different creative minds have come up with solutions out there. sharing, pod sharing and all the other stuff is being done right now. I know a lot of you guys, in a way I'm talking to you three days from now. That's really kind of cool. I'm talking to you three days from now. You're going down the road listening to the Intel report and you're doing it in its entirety and it's clear as if you were sitting here in the studios with us, which is really neat. And I don't have a problem with that technology at all. In fact, I understand the use of the technology to get the word out is what we want. If you are looking for solutions in that area, again, the Dayton O'Hara Arena Dayton Ham Fest is coming up. Guys, that is the mecca. If you want to see electronic equipment, if you'd like to see the latest version of whatever widget goes on, whatever you're listening to us on right now, it will be there. And it will be there in force. In fact, everybody from the top-end companies in components, electronic systems, radio communications, satellite communications, uplink systems, downlink systems, you name it, it's there and it's in force. Old and new. You want the latest widget, you're going to find it in whatever micro dot form you can think of and you're going to find everything from 50, 60, 70, even 100 years back. crystal radio sets, tube radio sets, large format transistor, small format transistor and solid state, and don't forget flush face and then microchip and then you know etc. So, guys, it's all there. And if you need batteries, if you need gel batteries for, say, emergency lighting or for other applications that are similar, where you need to be able to charge something up and then with everything goes off, you automatically switch over. Guys, the batteries show up there cheap. Solar panels show up there cheap. There is so much cool stuff that's available. It really can't be counted. And that's why, again, it's a three-day experience. You can get through it in a day. But a lot of us, what we do is like, I'm not going to go top end. I'm not going out to buy the most recent stuff. So I kind of would glaze over that. I'm looking for all the cool stuff that matches up the equipment that I'm already using. You're going to look for stuff perhaps that matches what you already have in the field. You may still dress up some other items. But remember, even ice cube cameras. Now what used to be was ice cube cameras were the big thing, guys. Oh, those are small. The size of an ice cube square. Now guys, Dot and Mike and what we call sugar cube are the norm. And the only thing that limits the size of the unit is the lens and collection system. And even there, take a look at the equipment that's on your camera phone right now. Again, the lens system is as large as the circuit that actually takes care of that. Now it is easier to knock those out, but again if you make them cheap enough, well it is plug and play and throw. Now of course people don't like to throw $80 when they paid $80 for something, and I would ask if you have any camera equipment, and I should bring this up, if you have any camera gear at all, I don't care if it's burned out little pocket cameras that are video digital, A lot of those are like the size of a cell phone. If you've got something that you can't figure out, doesn't seem to be working, send it to us. You've got the old VHS cameras, send them by UPS, I mean whatever you want. I'm going to give you an contact point here in a minute. Or send them by bulk mail, whatever you want to do. But if you've got cell phones that are camera phones and they're not working right, something's wrong with them, don't give them to the recycler. Send them to us. We do a lot of neat stuff with technology like that, but I need the basic components. And with it, we can develop other things. That's why some of these really small cameras, well, think about it, your little cell phone there, imagine what you can do if you negated the phone circuit, just how small one of those little camera collection systems is. Now, the other cool thing though is if the bad guys are using state of the art, it also isn't very well protected. And I will point out that the disadvantage of micro technology is microwave frags it with a matter of moments. Microseconds, as a matter of fact, about a quarter of a second. But to be safe, you wash it for a second or two with microwave exposed. And you hear little poppings. Well, what that is is a poor little board going, hey, overload. And it's gone. So, there are advantages and disadvantages to small. Also, maintenance and support. When it goes out, typically it is gone. However, there are some things that can be done to mix and match parts, come up with other solutions for battery or for power, and even attach little solar cells to keep the things running for extended periods of time to make some really cool mini security cameras. So, what you need are the components. Well, anyway, if you'd like to send anything like that to us, which we always appreciate, you can send that to pbnpobox194dextermichigan48130. Again, that's pbnpobox194dextermichigan48130. One more time, that's pbnpobox194dextermichigan48130. and Obviously, it's come from certain suppliers. I know exactly who they are. I've dealt with these people. They've got some really cool stuff. But I'm going to point this out. A lot of stuff that Frank picks up in Maine military is because other companies have gone out of business. And Frank has hunted out where a company has gone under that's a surplus company and he's bought everything they had. Here's the point. It's finite. There's not like an unlimited law next week. And I'll get another two or three or a bucket of these or that because after all it was cheap last week. You may come back next week and find that they're all gone. Okay, whatever it is, whatever widget it is. Remember you're dealing with surplus. This is not Kmart with more factory backing it up. This is surplus. And in many cases, Frank has found a certain pile of stuff for a whole bunch of goodies. He's piled them up in one little one spot and put them on a pallet and he's tallied them all and he's accumulated them from one, two or three locations. Well, you can ask typically, how many of these do you have? And he'll give you an idea. Well, I've got a whole lot of them. But also the thing is, even if he has a whole lot of them, it may be all that's left because they came from another store or a jobber or an importer that's already out of business. Now this is the nature of the surplus industry and supply. And I will point out something. When you're buying surplus clothing right now, military surplus clothing, The average is anywhere from 20 to 15 to 20 years old. Now some of it's older still. People don't think about this, but when you buy equipment from the 70s guys, that's 30 years ago. There was a different philosophy with regard to construction and the quality at the time. Cloth has been opened up so that it's not as strong. It will wear out faster. The way they do that is they loosen up the weave. They use less material. Oh, it still has the basic form, but the density is not there. And I'll tell you, you don't notice this except let me challenge you on something. Go pull out one of your even heavily washed but older Fruit of the Loom t-shirts. Take a look at one of the new t-shirts coming out right now. lift them and also it sounds weird but if you got a kitchen scale, digital or whatever, put them on that scale and weigh the two of them. Even your old shirt, your old t-shirt, that may be a little tired out or maybe a little stained, that's not a big deal. The point is that you'll find that that shirt is heavier. The reason it's heavier is because the cloth is denser. That's why it's lasted 20 years and that sounds weird but there's guys, I mean I've got t-shirts that are 20 years old. And you know what, there are art and design t-shirts that our friends have done for us over the years, Patriot t-shirts. But I've got stuff that's 20 years old and it's still perfectly functional and looks almost as good. I'll bet it's aged a little bit. There's a little color shift. But other than that, the stuff is still wearable. And if you look at some of the newer stuff coming on the shelf, it's coming from China, it's coming from overseas. Guys, you fluff it out. In order to make stuff go farther, you fluff it out. But that also means that with wear and tear, it wears out sooner. Now, a lot of these uniforms that you can get, FLEC-TAR, bubble pattern, DPM, camouflage, Dutch, DPM camouflage, Norwegian, Swedish equipment. A lot of this stuff, guys, was built to all of the older school specs. And remember, that wasn't even the heaviest gauge. But it's far better quality than today. And you're going to find that this is going to sound weird, but it's not weird. You can already see this on the horizon. They are pouring down America. They are going to destroy the quality standard that made America famous and what everybody else strived for in the world. Our stuff lasted. You could buy a Chinese knockoff. You could buy a Japanese knockoff. You could buy a Indonesian knockoff, guys, but you know what? They didn't make it. They looked. They had the veneer substance. They had the veneer, but they didn't have the substance, the girth. and this can be seen even in stuff you're buying from China today. How many of you can walk down an appliance aisle and oh man, it's an all-chrome item. Wow, it looks just like that blender my mom had 40 years ago. But even as you get closer, you go, something's not right about that. The color doesn't look right. It's chrome, but it's not chrome-chrome. And as you get closer and you pick it up, it's all plastic. It creates the illusion of girth, durability, and substance, but that is not there. That's what you're going to see more and more in your clothing and your shoes. People running around in rags is something that doesn't take very long when the lack of quality is incorporated into everything that you are buying. And as more Americans are put out of work by these slob globalists so that everything is centralized, They also will lower the standard across the board and it will be debris. This is another reason you don't throw out clothing that are, grab clothing other people are getting rid of that they're foolish enough to get rid of. Think that through. Oh, I hear another, sounds like we have a caller. Who do we have? Good evening. And we got Dave. Dave, jump in there please. Yeah, good evening. I haven't been in all week with a Dow Jones Industrial. Oh, it's been a wonderful week, a bear market. Everybody, spend, spend, spend, buy stock. Well, they pushed it up today almost to 8,600 and it dropped back. It closed today at 8,574.6. That's a good 400 points over closing of last week. Interesting enough, they pumped everything. Silver's up to $13.99 on closing and gold closed out at $916.20. But strange, General Motors closed out. $1.60, it's down $0.29 from where it was last week. And General Motors announces going to do more shutdowns and layouts, and that's going to affect about two or three plants here in the state of New York that make parts for General Motors. Oh well, we already got a high unemployment rate, that's going to bring a whole lot more unemployment if they close Down or shut back interesting though metal market. They were really pumping this week Coppers up 10 cents over what it was last week closing at $2.13 Nickel was up 60 cents this week closing at a dollar 86 or 586 excuse me Aluminum is up 2 cents closing it 68 cents Zinc is up at seven cents, no, zinc is up six cents closing at seventy cents, lead is up to sixty-five cents, seven cents higher than it was last week, and uranium Gee, it took a $2 jump closing at $46 a pound this week. Hmm, I wonder why all of a sudden Uranium in two weeks in a row has jumped, jumped. It's now gone from $41.50 to $46. And yesterday they announced that they're needing $100 billion more for the bank stimulus package. And of that $100 billion they're wanting to issue out, half of it's going to go to Bank of America and Wells Fargo. That's what Bianchi said yesterday in his reports on that. So much for banksters and their thing. I also have a report here from the Health Freedom Action Alert, which is interesting. Gee, there's a whole bunch of reports in this one from Dr. Holowurst and, uh, Mersoto and all the rest of them in here, each of them making a mistake. Pandemic, huh, uh, hoax, what a hoax, it's a scam, uh, one doctor after doctor, and even Dr. Paul come out here and made a remark about, uh, swine flu, what a joke. There are several doctors who have made it. I want to post this to the LTR. Ridiculing and making fun of the CDC and their so-called pandemic. Most of these doctors have come back and said, ah, just take some nanosilver and you don't have to worry about catching this thing. And there's something here too that they're claiming that they've already have a sample vaccine ready to produce. They haven't had time to be able to germinate it yet, but they got one. So where did it come from? In any case, that's going to be an interesting thing to look at what doctors have to say in regards to the They talk about weaponized variety of flu vaccine. Interesting coming from medical doctors. Well again, one of the things to watch here with the influenza nonsense is that they're already boasting that, well you know we're going to have that wave in the fall here. It's like wave in the fall. Okay, how are you predicting that all of a sudden you're going to have this very specific flu wave and a particular window, blah, blah, blah, blah. unless you're generating it, that's the only possibility. You can't try to do the old crystal ball thing because there are too many variables. So in order for this to crop up again, they're just throwing the cards out there for everybody to see and we need to be ready to plug their hind end when the time comes. In this report too, Mark, the doctors even mentioned that, hey, it ain't over. They'll be back with some other scam, with some more flu. They say you can bet probably within 30 days, they'll hit us with something else. Well, here is a solution again, the detox formula. We've talked about this over and over again. I know a lot of the guys listening, many of our friends in the chat room, many of you out there listening, have been ordering these supplies. Go to pbn.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and that's pbn, Patriot Broadcasting Network, Then on the left side of the page, the left column, detox, you'll see it right there. That's the formula that you need to duplicate. Put it down in printed form. Don't just have it on the computer. Then follow through on the list. A couple things real quick. Ionic Silver through WaterOZ, Nancy has that available, but WaterOZ is a company that does Ionic Silver. With regard to the alcohol, you can use brandy, but you can use any other high proof alcohol that you want. Vodka is fairly cheap and is a good substitute. Brandy, of course, makes for a unique flavor too on top of everything else. Not that that's critical because if you look at the ingredients, you find it to be flavorful but hot. So keep that in mind. Mergum and the Merg products can be found at Whole Foods. But there are other companies you can order it from. Take advantage of that as quickly as you can. I can see this on the horizon that they're going to start trying to block this stuff because these ingredients are what makes it work. Of course, the alcohol pulls everything, all the oils out of the different ingredients, creates a tincture, and that's what does the job. So the detox formula helps to deal with pretty much all of these and keep them in check. at the very least allows you to continue to operate which is most critical. Tell you what Dave, hold right there. Something that might have another caller. Who do we have? It's Mike from Louisiana. I'll call back the next hour. Okay, we're up at 8 o'clock. I'll tell you what, for everybody listening, don't forget, and thank you very much, for the next hour we actually have Mike. Don't forget this, you can call in. We've got the militia town hall meeting. It's from 7 to 8. Everybody can call in. Everybody can participate. Ed will be the moderator. And on Fridays, that's going to be our standard from now on. So if you want to get in there and pass information on, if you've got something you want to talk about. Same number? Same number, yep. So you'll be all squared away. And that's what time? It'll be the next hour. Right after we close the intel report from 7 to 8 pm, the window in between our last hour here and our next hour, you know, one hour away. So the next hour is coming up. Very good, sir. Sound good? Yes. Appreciate it. Thank you. And you don't have to go anywhere, Mike. You might as well just stay right where you are, as a matter of fact. Also, as far as the detox, folks, last night Nancy and Mark discussed the detox and how the stuff works. Eight o'clock broadcast last night in the archives, which is on Liberty Tree Radio dot TK or Liberty Tree Radio dot CO dot CC. That's the Intelligence Report. That's the Intelligence Report. Dave, you're giving out the wrong information. That's the Intelligence Report.TK or the Intelligence Report. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, it's not. Yeah, the Intelligence Report. Sorry about that. TK Intelligence Report CO.CC. Okay. Well, I'll tell you what. We're almost at the top of the hour. I know we're going to hear the music in a minute. I want to say thank you to everybody. We do have a situation that was developing with one of our friends, actually in the chat room. I know that they're having to decide how they want to deal with this. If there's any assistance needed, please again let us know. Again, if you want to call in, maybe 8 o'clock. If not, don't worry about it. I understand that you're coming up with your own solutions. Nancy's helped to assist with this earlier. We also have, remember, a number of exercises. I will repeat again, treat all of your training aids as weapons, people. Always remember that. Everything treated if it looks like a firearm, treated as a firearm. When the time comes, you won't make any mistakes. Say what, Dave with closed program. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We show prevail ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is on the run. We're on the march both day and night. 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