April 29, 2009
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Mark Koernke discussed militia preparedness, equipment configuration, and ammunition availability on April 28, 2009. He covered web gear setup using vintage cartridge belts and suspenders, stripper clip loading techniques for bolt-action rifles, and ammunition sourcing during shortages, naming specific retailers like J&G Sales, Wideners, and OurGuns.net. The show addressed corrosive ammunition cleaning methods and included a caller from Pennsylvania asking about weapon maintenance for 5.45x39 ammunition. Koernke also reported on multinational military exercises at Mayport Beach in Jacksonville, Florida, and discussed H.R. 1913 hate crimes legislation.
- web gear
- cartridge belts
- stripper clips
- mosin nagat
- ammunition shortage
- 5.45x39
- corrosive ammunition
- weapon maintenance
- preparedness
- militia training
- h.r. 1913
- mayport beach
- multinational forces
- load-bearing equipment
- self-sufficiency
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and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled, each God given right, we only watch and tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer? If he called out from the grave, Jill will abandon the force. libertytreeradio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we are on live 365, then go to Liberty Tree Radio. We are also on AM&FM Microstations, CB Bay Stations, and Ultra Net Technologies East and West of the Mississippi along with Southern and Central Alaska. You will also find us on the Hallmark Network, 8 colonial states, and counting should be 11 total with the time we are done within the end of the week to the beginning of next week. But the Hallmark and the Ultra Net Systems will be coming together. Golden Spike Project is in motion and a third net We'll be completing the task and overlapping extensively in all three areas. So we're going to see what happens there. There is a meeting at the restaurant this Sunday, a meeting at the restaurant Eastern Seaboard for all you friends there, a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday. Double up, quad up, make sure you take up as little room as possible because it's mandatory and everybody's going to be there. So you all get ready to do that. We've got some special guests, including one of our friends coming in from Washington, DC to give a report on What they've been observing there, just around the corner from where the restaurant is, so we say down the road aways. Also, Party on the Beach on Saturday, but this will be at Site 23. Party on the Beach on Saturday, alternate Site 23. And Don, today's date is? Well, you guys, it is the 28th day of April, the 28th day of April 2009. Difference, you might think they're both the same thing. Someone might tell you something, and then while you're doing it correct, return your ankle. there and you're trying to do what your instructor told you, the difference? Train, train, train. And once you've been trained and trained, these instructors, they like to go to a class before they go to work, have a mean streak. That's why they, as you know what, once you've got an edge on it. With practice comes perfection. We're looking at becoming masters in the trades that we choose. and each of you has a specialty and area of interest. One of the things about Weapons Wednesday is you may hear that 1911, that doesn't necessarily mean that that's the weapon of choice for you if you feel that something else may fit more ergonomically. One of the advantages that we have is militia. Intune the weapons to the person. So some people may not necessarily prefer the 1911, that's a personal choice with your hand cannons, your personal defense weapons. We may adjust other weapons accordingly to meet the need of the shooter, either young person, middle aged or old. We adjust accordingly. That's one of the things to remember as a team leader, a fire team leader, as a company commander, as a platoon leader. We're responsible for identifying the strengths and weaknesses of each of your men or women, which are students. and these individuals, it's your job to bring them to their peak performance in preparation for what's coming. Now a lot of you are dealing with home units or organizing home defense. Same situation applies. Again, you have to understand limitations, what each person is capable of, and where there may be weaknesses that need to be adjusted for accordingly. Engineer your equipment to meet that need, engineer your weapons to meet that need, and then get on with the task, because we had a lot of work to do and we don't have much time. Tying that in, I believe it was H.R. 1913, what a surprise. Same year the Federal Reserve Act passed. Oh, that's no coincidence. None at all. Anyway, the supposed hate crime bill, read that. The Soviet anti-free speech bill is now in place. You know they're going to be twisting this every way they can, guys. This will be used in the most flippant and bizarre fashions that anybody can imagine. And it's simply another way to attack. the American system. That's expected. It's not an if, it's not a kind of, it's not a maybe. This is what the Soviets did. It passed to the House today. And the vote was, and I want to thank our listeners, the vote was 179 against, 249 for, and that's in the House right now. So we'll see where it goes from there with regard to process and we'll have more update on that. Interesting thing here too, and forgive me, I don't have, one of the guys in the chat room may jump in for me. on this one because I don't have the location. Actually, it sounds like Jacksonville, it sounds like Florida if you ask me. I think it is. Multinational forces storm Mayport Beach for drills. Surprised seen at the shore of beach goers, but readied the troops, blah blah blah. Sounds like a yap piece done by a talking head. Who is in the video that's here, by the way? What is interesting about this is it was a multinational force, 11 foreign units on the ground. First time they had done this in 15 years, guys. We'll do the math. What year is this? It's the Clinton day. Yeah, exactly. Since the day where everybody was eyeballing them and paying attention to what's going on. Actually, it's a little less than 15 years total, but for this unit, it may be 15 years since the last one they participated in, which was a use of foreign forces and American soil. This was a simulated assault, beachhead landing operation or air assault and amphibious assault on a location. I want to say thank you to our guys in the chat room for bringing this forward. There is a site where you can look at this. It's in www.jacksonville.com. forward slash multinational underline forces underline storm underline mayport underline beach underline for underline drills now jacksonville.com news metro two thousand and nine oh four you know twenty six will get you where you need to be approximately but anyway uh... eleven different nationalities yes this is a cooperative nugget type extra exercise With cooperative nugget they were planning on enforcing the global agenda for confiscating the guns and going door to door all that's on videotape. We can pretty well be assured, rest assured that this is the agenda with their plugging in here. All the other pickle smoking mirrors and warm fuzzy BS is irrelevant and as one person commenting said, you know, this whole thing had lots of beautiful verbiage and flour as far as the article goes but no substance. And of course that's typical of the public releases that we've seen We can show you Cooperative Nugget the real story. We can show you Cooperative Nugget the canned for other military personnel story. And we can show you the BS two minute and one minute blurb stories where all of the UN insignia and all of the global COP BS was edited out so that it was just, oh look, just some friendly dudes over to visit the US. All 14 nations worth of them. Yeah, and I'm a Chinese jet pilot too. Now, again, with regard to arms and ammunition, also I want to thank Alfie. He's been doing an itemized listing of available resources as they are found. We know that there's stuff in many different locations. There's pockets all over the country. Certain key companies that we've identified quite heavily are cleaned out. I mean, we know that. Amelman.com, a great company. They have provided fantastic service and virtually have put themselves almost out of business. because they've all provided such a great service. So not a surprise there. Now what I would point out is, and I want to make sure Alfie gave us a listing here earlier, forgive me, I just want to make sure I get this right, but ammunition availability, I'm looking to see, it's J&G sales presently has a certain amount of ammunition on hand. JNGsales.com, that's W-W-W dot J-G sales dot com. And also Wideners, that's W-I-D-E-N-E-R-S dot com. If you want to go there to see what's going on, most of them it's really interesting. Yeah, they've got the 545 by 39, that's what I said. It's all the same ammo guys. There's no import, new import stuff that came in. What happened is, our guns, which is listed here, our guns dot net, the guy bought, must be a couple of warehouses the size of the football fields, full of 5.45 by 39. He's the one who's been providing to all these other people that are carrying the 53 grain military in the cans ammo That's five four five by thirty nine so a lot of this is repeat where what it comes down to is you might as well go to the direct party because I believe he still has the best price and I'm looking right now just to see forgive me. I'm doing this on the air, but Let's see yeah still has the best price right now looks like Which is who everybody else is buying from. 2,160 rounds per crate for $275. That's about $25 to $30 less than everybody else who are all the other people who bought it from him. Example is AimSurplus, well forgive me, not Aim, but ammunitiontogo.com. They are listing some and that 545x39 is our guns. So certain things just go to our guns first, see if they have it, you will save a few dollars unless, and here is the only thing where you might save their guys is keep in mind if the company is just down the road and it is listed in the sheet that Alfie has printed up and he has got it, I would assume and I don't know but he might have it on his page too. If not I am sure you can go to our chatroom and recover the information. The available information that we have as far as the ammunition goes, guys, what's there may not be there tomorrow. So just be prepared for that. Our guns has a location in Chicago. We have other companies that are listed here that may be close enough you can drive down the street maybe, what, 20 miles? Well, if you can do that, you're saving a lot of money. If you can go straight down, pick this stuff up and drive it back home. You got it in hand, there's no second or third party fiddling with your property, and now you've got the ammunition you need for what's going to happen. Everybody's saying the same thing, and it is true. You know, when you look at your pile of ammunition, what we warned everybody would happen has happened. It literally has like the alchemist measure. It literally has gone from brass and lead to being gold. But it didn't change physically, did it, Don? just If you can find ammunition and it's reasonably priced or at least you can afford it, you can bite the bullet, pardon the pun, and deal with it, well, keep chugging away at picking up more every week. We need the ammunition out of the inventory in the warehouse and we need it out amongst the people where it will be tactically deployed in a ready station for combat. That is the most critical component of what we have to deal with here. Just get everything squared away accordingly and stay focused on the mission. Another thing, and by the way we are going to do a video on this Don, there's been a lot of requests saying hey you need to do a video on how to support the bolt action rifles and a lot of the other weapons that are showing up that people have in quantity. Now I will verbally explain this on the air guys. If you can find a reasonably priced cartridge belt, the 10 pocket M1 Garangka, half of one of these belts has been damaged. Say the main belt itself has got mouse damage or it's already chewed up and fragged. What you do is salvage what you can, but station one half, in other words, five pockets up the front suspender on the left with the flap towards the inside. and then do the same with the other suspender coming down or actually coming from the base up and station the other five pockets on the other side. What does this do? It gives you 10 more pockets for however many stripper clips or however many D-clips. Now I will point out that typically if you get the older style suspenders, forgive me, the older style cartridge pouches, if they're correct, they don't just have the snap on the outside. They also have a second keeper with a snap on the inside to keep the ammunition from bouncing around or sliding out of the pocket. This is not a bad thing with these horizontal stations. If your unit doesn't have them, if the belt you're using doesn't have them, go to a tent supply and have them install them. Okay, get the measurements off another pouch. Take a little tape measure with you to the gun show. Take a look at some of the collectors. Open up the flap on the inside of a cartridge belt and you will find a second little strap in there made out of cotton. It has a regular snap on it. Now the closures on regular cartridge belts are what are called the DOT post system. It's a post type mechanism with a little groove all the way around this column piece of metal. When you put the clip on it, you've seen them before guys around tents and they're on all the military gear from World War II and even back to World War I. These work very well. They're actually very easy to use which is the big thing is user friendly. But you may not find them as often. Also again for the inner strap you don't use a dot system, you use a snap, a conventional snap. Now here's a suggestion guys, you don't want chrome and you don't want high shiny metal. May not be chrome but it could be something like chrome. Instead, snaps come in blue metal, they come in black, they come in plastic in black, they come even in colors, in black, pink, blue, whatever. I would recommend trying to either do the steel blue or which is actually a black tone, or I would recommend going with just flat black. The reason is get it subdued if you can and if you specify this with the little contractor they don't cost that much to be installed and snaps are very easy to work with. Okay. Now what this does is gives you a total of well you've got let's see 10 pockets on the belt. If you had eight d clips or I should say eight round d clips in each pocket that's how many? 80 rounds. Plus you got another 80 rounds in your vertical suspender system. So that's 160 rounds right there in your basic carry package. If you're using stripper clips, you're looking at 100 and 100, that's pretty cool. 200 rounds. And this is remember, main battle rifle cartridge ammunition. Now it's not the only ammo you're going to carry. And again, I would carry a certain amount of ammunition in the butt pack, as we often do. And remember, carrying bandoliers. to supplement your load-bearing equipment. Bandoliers are supposed to be throw away. Of course, we don't throw anything away, but they're designed to be lightweight and friendly. It shouldn't be forgotten, you guys. You hear that 1911 at the front of the hour? That magazine that slams into the well? As a matter of fact, that's part of what you'll be adding to the Web Gear, to the Assault Gear, when the time comes, is either a set of World War II to Korea to Vietnam type double mag pouches. or you can choose whatever it is that's off the industry that's standard, that is readily available because there's all kinds of aftermarket stuff. Guys, there's molly gear, there's anything else. And by the way, you can intermix this stuff. You can use MOLLE gear with the other web gear we're talking about and vice versa. The way the suspension system is set up, it was designed to do that. Now, obviously MOLLE or MOLLE gear or MOLLE gear, take your pick of pronunciation, or MOLLE, okay, maybe the east sign, it's MOLLE, or MOLLE, the M-O-L-L. MOLLE, oh, like gunmol, like you'll gunmol or molle or mole, mole gear. The most important thing to remember guys is that if you can interlock the equipment and if you're using it with, for instance, older equipment, you may want to stitch it right on. You may actually want to sew it in place. In other words, sew the flap shut so they can't come loose or come open on you. That's one of the considerations when building this equipment up. Another thing, and you'll see on my web gear, in fact, in Equipping Part 1 and Equipping Part 2, Equipping for the New World Order Part 1 and Equipping for the New World Order Part 2, I've actually got about three wars worth of equipment on the gear. Now, some people are saying, oh, that's old stuff. And then there's other people that are saying, well, it's cotton, and then this and that and the other. Yeah, it's cotton. It's quiet. I understand limitations, I understand it may need to be fixed. Eventually down the road the stuff I picked out works for me. It's designed for my ergonomic needs. I'm very comfortable with it. I can switch it out as I need to, but it's designed to suit my purpose and it matches the mission for my unit. Now, one of the things, there's about three wars worth of gear there. The pistol belt is Specifically, a quick release from about 1956-57 is the metal model that they don't make anymore. The suspenders are 1956 type, the butt pack is 1956. They're a combination of plastic closure M16 mag pouches, a 1943 Boit double mag pouch for the 45, which will also work with a couple other pistols. A M 1956 type shovel cover which has the external carrier which is pitched and most people don't pay any attention to this but there is a pitched location on the cover of the shovel cover for your fighting knife or for your bayonet. It was designed so then I will demonstrate this in the next video for sure. If you reach back and it's properly stationed the idea was it was already on a 45 degree angle so you naturally reach release the snap and you're bringing the weapon up already combat ready. Now there are other places to station the fighting knife also and who said you carry just one? You carry whatever the hell you want. Whatever you're willing to carry. That's how it works. We're not the US Army. We don't have any table of authorized equipment. That's not how it works. Except that we have a minimal standard which is what we're talking about when we did the equipping. This is considered minimal standard. And if you look at my overall gear you'll find for instance I carry 6 to 8 canteens at any given time. And then I can hear people say, well I'm going to carry a camel pack. We're good. I'll carry a camel pack too. But I like the idea of multiple containers for one reason. I take a bullet in one container, I only lose a quart. I take and get something fragged in my camel pack and I lose everything that's in it. Now you see the idea there, and especially in the environment that we're in. The other thing is, I can actually shift weight off a person. Let's say that Mark is still somewhat functional but Mark gets injured. Mark is still going to be doing his part, but for instance, individually separated containers means that a pint is a pound the world around. If I take a one-quart canteen off of a person's gear and shift it over to somebody else's, I can still leave him with some water because that person needs to carry as much of his load as he can. But I can shift equipment off and still not leave him naked. You see how that works? So, there are many advantages to smaller modular assemblies and for having smaller compartmentalized systems. Consider this. For instance, the Mali is a nylon, although in some cases they actually did put a layer of Kevlar over them to protect them from shearing and damaging, you know, fragmentation, etc. You know, not so much fragmentation, but debris on the battlefield busted up stuff. Now, most didn't think about that. If it gets damaged or if it's shredded, that's it. There's no water left. The guy's out. If I want to take some of the weight off, and water is one of the first things I can do, I can carry it for a person and redistribute it if need be also. There are many different things I can do. I have all kinds of options. I can't do that if everything's in one big lump. Okay, with no option for any place else to put it no nothing else to put it in kind of like the old joke We've made many times the guy walking halfway across the desert. He's got the oasis in the middle of desert He's got a he's got to get there, but it's a tough trek and oh He loses his helmet and he loses his you know spats And he loses this and he loses is that and finally he lifts that canteen up and he's a little more than halfway across to the Oasis in the middle of the desert and he lifts that canteen up and he And that drop of water, you see, hit his tongue and he looks inside the canteen and he gets disgusted and he throws it away because he's exhausted. Now, when he got to the middle of the desert, how did he get across the other half? He might have satiated his thirst that it though well, but he had to make the rest of the trek. But he's got the same distance to get across the other side and he almost died halfway across, you know, one quarter of the way across the whole desert. And he started with a full. He had canteens, but if you notice he keeps throwing stuff away. On his other half of the truck, what did he put the water in? For all we know, he started with four canteens. That's right. Exactly. The basic rule here is you don't shell it out if you can help it anyway because, like I said, is it man-made? Can you quickly replace it in a barren or remote environment? What do you have? Do you have the working knowledge to replace equipment that may be lost like that? On a sub note, I know it's Jericho, what can I say, one of the episodes, they get chased by a truck, the truck rolls over, the scallywags raid the truck while the one guy is pinned underneath it, the main character, and his brother is unconscious, or not brother, one of his family, they're one of the farmer friends. The girl hides over in Little Dune nearby and eventually, you know, he's freezing to death. The temperature is really terrible. They don't really come up with a solution to save him, which I wouldn't, everybody could see. They had the right idea when they started, but he just didn't finish what he should have done. Anyway, they send the girl off because she's the only one that can, you know, actually walk. And so she's heading back to Jericho, or at least to where the security police are, because we can't call a militia. And she's carrying a mag light, guys. A really nice mag light. In fact, at that point in time after the beginning of World War III, now it would be called an irreplaceable mag light. And she's walking along and the light starts to go bad and the battery goes bad and blinks out and fades out and blinks out. She looks at it and she shakes it and she goes, ahhhh! And what do you think she does next? She throws the flashlight over into the ditch. and then proceeds because she's scared. Now, I think Nancy's smart enough to figure out real quick, it may not be a flashlight anymore, but that old mag aluminum billy club is awful handy to have as a weapon. You see the point there, guys? See how that works? So again, what they show you in Hollywood is designed to condition you By the way, we'll make more batteries, we'll get more batteries, we'll find batteries, but it's kind of hard to make a Duraluminum mag flashlight, which comes in handy as both a flashlight and a beat that's not out of your club. We really don't want to lose those, but we don't want to lose any of our manufactured goods. Now, this is another thing we're going to get into as this conflict escalates. Everything is cleaned and saved. If you are not in that mode now, you are going to fail later. I am going to tell you something. This has already been happening every couple of weeks. Less and less stuff is being gotten rid of. People are running out of what they can play with and now they are finding out they can't replace it. They either can't replace it down because they can't buy it, in other words it is not available, or they can't replace it because they can't buy it as in They don't have the money. So there are less and less goodies out there to scavenge off from, but there's still a lot of recyclables and equipment that you're going to have to adapt and improvise use for other projects people because that's the only resource that's going to be available. Improvise, adapt and overcome. Well in the field you do this constantly. If you have a piece of paper that's wrapped up, and as Marcus pointed this out the other day, which we've tried to explain to people for years, when you wipe off a weapon with a weapon's rag or a patch, you don't throw it out. It's going to get used for something. A, it's probably going to get used for the same thing that was done before because something is better than nothing, but eventually it's going to be saved and it makes great fire starter. There are a number of things that can be done with it. It can be used to improvise other tools. pieces of metal caps or pull caps on objects. I don't care what it is, you save it and you clean it off and you itemize it and use Ziploc bags to sort the stuff out. They used to be just sandwich bags or whatever you could. Sometimes just hard containers with little caps on them or little pieces of VisiClean. What you would do is save the stuff up and use it for improvised booby traps, improvising tools in the field, spare parts systems for a weapon you might have to make something work and put it together in a certain way and no it's not the way it was intended but it is a way that will get it to work. If you don't have the goodies you can't make that's how it works. So just another thing to consider on the inventory of stuff that needs to be done all this stemming from how to set up older web gear. Now that's one of the things we did too Don is on our YouTube page go to libertytreeradio.4mg.com Then go to our YouTube page, go to LTR video, or you can go right to YouTube and then go to Liberty Tree Radio, patch in there and plug in to our training videos, the different many training videos that are there. You'll notice we already did one on Simple LBE. The next one, Don, will be on the, and it will be part of the next equipping video too. But we are going to do one on the cartridge belts. I've got examples of everything here that I need. We'll show you what we're talking about, but for a lot of you guys, consider the fact that they've already come up with a solution. The U.S. spent more money than anybody else's troops. Look at what the Russians did, look at what the Germans did, and then take a look at the equipment that the Americans had as far as basic quantity and quality. We did pretty darn good for our troops considering. So this is already a system in place. It will help to beef up your speed and return time when it comes to putting the weapon back in action. Another thing Don, probably people are wondering about is, Mark said something about stripper clips for the Moisins' Nagat. Now guys, there are stripper clips for the Moisins' Nagats. Years ago when the ammo was coming in, the buggers who were selling the ammo usually shucked the ammo out of the stripper clips and sold the stripper clips separate. Oh, it's buggers. Well, they made more money. We can't help that. Now you are going to have to search around a bit. You go to the shows and you will find that the Moisin Nagat Military Stripper Clips are available. The Nagat cartridge is rimmed. Typically they are a chromed metal. They are a shiny metal. Not real super shiny but they are chromed or they are actually finished in most cases. In other cases they are just a raw metal but they are like new slash 50 years old. Either way they will hold five rounds. Those five round stripper clips allow you to line up with the guide that's built right into the top of the receiver. You insert the stripper clip with the bolt open. Bolt goes back into the rear. Lock it all the way back. Extract one stripper clip from the farthest pocket to the rear. Why do I take the farthest pocket to the rear, Don? Well, it might be a matter of convenience, but it's one that's going to be hardest to get immediately and you want as the battle proceeds to make things easier and faster for yourself. Right, speed counts for everything guys, just like in getting a punch in, isn't it Don? Yup. So we're pulling our stripper clip out from that last pouch on the left or on the right, the farthest to the rear towards your rear end. We're pulling one of the stripper clips out. We then insert it in, insert the stripper into the stripper guide, take our thumb, put it on the top of the cartridge in the middle, and then push down. CRACK! Okay, all five rounds will go down into the magazine well. We then pull the stripper clip out and we put it in our pocket. Now ideally, here's a little trick. I don't know how many of you have done this yet, but this is something I've recommended for years. All of you are planning on wearing popcorn pocket, field fatigue pants, right? Pretty much. Now, if your wife can do this for you, elasti-size the top of the pocket. If you do that, when the pocket is unbuttoned, it will still sphincter close or be tighter at the top so that it will stay sealed. What is the advantage in this? Well, Mark just took a stripper clip that he can't get any more of and he needs to put it where it's safe, but he needs to save time. So the first thing I do is I pull the stripper clip out, I put my hand right into my right popcorn pocket on my thigh, I let go of the stripper clip, pull my hand back out. Grab the pivot on the bolt, shove the bolt forward, drop it down and into battery, bring the weapon up to use it, and that action all took place faster than I can say it. That's how easy it is. Now, you know what I got? I've got a stripper clip that I didn't lose. Now, if I lose it later on, that's an act of God thing. Oh, well, I screwed up. The point is I need to be able to save all of these manufactured goods because I will reload those stripper clips later. Now, once I've loaded the weapon, I bring the weapon up, I engage, pop, and I do that four more times, and I repeat the process, reaching back to the farthest pocket to the rear. There's a second stripper clip there. I pull it out, I insert it into the guide, I cuck, drop it down, immediately pull the stripper out, shove it into my right pocket with my hand, pull it back out, close the bolt, and immediately start the action all over again. That's how you want to think, guys. I'm working from the back of my web gear to the front. Because the mag pouches to the front or your pockets to the front mean that there will be less time as your closing in contact with an aggressor. What you are doing is you are shortening the time to recover from your belt to the weapon with regard to reloading. It doesn't make any difference if it is a vest or whatever. Work from your pouches to the rear and sides forward to the front of your vest. Think the same way. Again, you've got to remember panic is going to... I won't say panic, I shouldn't even say it that way, but the adrenaline rush is going to progressively increase. Time and performance will become more critical. It is important that you close that gap in recovery time to bring your weapon back online. That's what we're concerned with. We're trying to help you here, okay? Don, we might have a caller. Who do we have? I think we do. We got you. Go ahead. Hi, this is Chris in Pennsylvania. Go ahead, Chris. You mentioned that 545x39 ammunition. I did check that out. It is corrosive, so I'm wondering what's the best stuff to use to clean your weapon? Well, there's a couple ways you can go, but let me give you a couple of numbers here. Good point on that. First of all, soap and water. It sounds weird, but just regular old detergent water. You scrub it out. You can take a little detergent water with you. You scrub it out and actually clean it and neutralize it. There's a number of different techniques that are used by guys. Some people have come up with their own recipes for bore cleaner. There is military corrosive bore cleaner out there that was made by the US military, still out there in the pint, the half pint, and different size containers for transport with your web gear. Price is about as little as 50 cents a container to as high as, oh, three or four dollars or five dollars, but that's for a pretty good size. Looks like a quart size can. Hold on here. In fact, I just had that in my hand and I put it back where I didn't. Well, probably shouldn't have done that. But let me get you a contact number here. In the meantime, other than being, I should say this, I know that some of the ammunition they claim isn't corrosive, right? true. I would assume that any military European ammunition would be corrosive. People are going, what about our needle stuff? I say, here's the problem. You're dealing now with a lot of bargain basement stuff or a lot of the end run stuff. You're dealing with people who are more concerned with moving their product and of course they're competing with newer products on the rental revolution market. So as far as honesty or for that matter even consistency. is going to be an issue especially with the fact that no European country, especially European countries after World War II, were going to waste or throw anything out. If they still had it in the production inventory, they continued to use it until it was exhausted. In some cases, the stuff never got to where it was supposed to, and so it was sitting in the warehouse past what was the expected production dates, and then was discovered and used anyway. So, my assumption with AK74, AK47, and by the way, remember the AK74 is a much more modern round than 7.62x39, and yet you'll find it corrosive. Now, there's a good thing about this. I don't have a problem with corrosive, especially when I'm carrying field ammo, because I know that it's very reliable. It's going to work. Yeah, the Mercuric primer is ideal for long-term storage and would be preferred, I would say, even to the point where in modern manufacturing, in small production, we would be better off making a corrosive primer because it would be more reliable with regard to ignition under field conditions to include the fact that the ammunition, in many cases, will be exposed to the elements on a wide scale. Extreme cold, extreme wet, extreme, you know, whatever, extreme heat. Here, write this down real quick and check with them and you can give us a call later this week and let us know for sure if they have anything left. 623-9986. Again, that's 512-623-9986. Okay, and I'll give it for everybody one more time. 512-623-9986. They have LSA, they have other World War II type, you know, solvents and lubricants. Korean War vintage stuff would be the same because they're still addressing the same issue. Even the US military didn't throw stuff out. So, in World War II and a half, slash Korea, remember we were carrying the Garand, the Carbine, the Browning 1919 A6 and A7, A5, A6 and A7, depending on which service, and a number of other weapons. And because of that, we didn't dispose of all of our inventory of ammo. We started using stuff that we had in the Strategic Reserve, still in the Pacific Theater, left over from World War II. And remember this, the Pacific Theater got the last of everything. When it became obsolescent or older in Europe, what they did was transfer it to the Pacific theater where it was depo-ed. So a lot of the odds and ends of the hodgepodge stuff and the oldest of whatever ended up progressively going to Asia and Southeast Asia and Central Asia as in the Japanese theater. After World War II it became the era of theater of occupation. Anyway, another consideration there is, remember this, if you can't do anything else but wash it, always carry some lubricants of some kind. It can be 10 way sewing machine oil. It can be even automotive. I know people go, well, there's detergents and stuff in there too. But even if it were, say, car oil, and I wouldn't bathe it, I would just take a rag, get it lubricated, and you would mildly cover it. If you do nothing else, if you fired the weapon, and you thought you might not be able to get to all the best solvents or cleaners, at least detergent wash the rifle and then lubricate it with whatever you can to seal the crystal structure back up. Because that's really all that's good. That's the only thing that's creating rust is the fact that oxygen can get to the metal. So if you re-lubricate just as long as you go ultra light, the only reason you're doing this is as a stopgap measure. As soon as you can access better technology, you reprocess, in other words, you re-clean the weapon. strip it of everything and then lubricate it with whatever your standard lubricants are. Ideally, and I know everybody's going to say, well I'm going to have, you know, I'm going to have Gibbs, I'm going to have PLS, I'm going to have LSA, I'm going to have fill in the blank, there's a whole bunch of lubricants. Well that's good, and you may. But after the fifth week and you're out there in the bush and you've been cleaning the weapon and doing your maintenance, you either find out that you dropped something, something got broken, or you used it all and you're going to have to make do with something else. Whatever lubricants you can... Yeah, go ahead Don, I'm sorry. And all you've got left is greasy rags that you've been saving. Now you know greasy rags, you can wring them out. Oh yeah, actually, you know one of the tricks we've done for years is hang them. Everything you've got in the way of a lubricant is sitting in that thing, but gravity takes its toll. All you do is hang it, and what we do is use actually a plastic catch bucket like with a funnel, and you'd be amazed how much oil you can actually recover. Now, needless to say, it's going to be dirty, it's going to be dingy, but then what you do, and this is a trick we did, is you actually build a sand and charcoal filter. to drop everything in. I've done this as an experiment years ago. I don't have one set up right now. But what we used to do, guys, is we would do a seven-layer charcoal sand filter, and I would take old crankcase oil, drop it in the top, and let it through osmosis, just like a big Berkey. There you go. There's a way to describe it. Like a big Berkey. Only all it was was taking all the heavy metals and the base impurities out and allowing the oil to pass through the other side. And it wasn't perfect. It's still going to have some discoloration. But the point is, it was usable. And all of the flakes of metal, the debris and material was pretty much in the sand and charcoal filter where it belonged. So the same can be done with anything else, if nothing else, just with gravity and catching it with something. lubricants are critical. We do not, we are, this is something Mark is, is in over attentive about. I've repeated it over and over again, but I will repeat it again. We do not appreciate POL, petroleum oil and lubricant products, until they get cut off. Oh you guys, here's a little garage tip. If you change your own oil, you probably add your own antifreeze or you buy your oil in gallons sometimes. Take that gallon jug of oil and cut like six Remember the old gas stations, the guy would fill your motor with a quart of old timers, right? And then he'd stand that empty can after he'd emptied it upside down. And what looked like oil, detergent oil, well, change it and change it. Well, another thing about that that's true is that truck stops, although you don't see it as much, I used to do that every so often to go to the truck stops. We've got three of them right here off the expressway. Go through, get all the containers, turn them upside down in that same fixture only without the filter, and let everything drop down into a reservoir. It was all freebie. Not only that, but when I was done, every once in a while you got a container to refill with an oil container. Whatever you got that's spillage, it went down below. So it works fine. I'm sorry, call her. Anything else? Questions? First of all, the good thing is remember the tube is stainless. The gas tube is stainless. But I would still just do the basic cleaning that you're supposed to do. Remember? Your concern there is going to be with possibly pre-lubing, which is a trick that's been used before. And another thing that I might recommend, this is a trick we used for years to help reduce oxidation problems, is the first two or three rounds, if you're going to buy some commercial ammunition, is to buy something that you know is supposedly non-corrosive. Now, US military ammunition, that's not a problem. We used to take like three rounds of 30 out of six, With the Springfield, I would fire Springfields or 1917 Enfields. A lot of our units here have tons of 1917 Enfields, and I'm not exaggerating when I say hundreds. What we would do on the range is fire three or four rounds of standard commercial Remington or Winchester ammunition. This would carbon coat. This isn't going to protect it completely, but what this does is creates a carbon layer, or a layer of protection. before initiating use of say corrosive ammo which we used to get all the time. We used to get lots and lots of US military corrosive ammo. In other words Mark, you're choosing the initial following. Yes, exactly. And by doing that what this did is it created a protective layer of carbon that was not corrosive. Now this was not a catch all. What you then do is fire obviously your corrosive ammunition as you wish to and then as a last several rounds go back to the commercial ammunition again to blow some of the debris out. Now, the advantage of this is it made it easier to clean and it was less likely that there was going to be any oxidation issues or corrosion problems or residue that was going to be residual that would be in direct contact with what were standard carbon steel barrels. Remember, US military, we don't do chrome barrels. That's one option with your 223s or with your, because you've got to remember, I point to South, the reason I mentioned 223, everybody goes, well we don't have corrosive ammo in 223. How do we know that? The Russians are providing us with all this wolf ammo. I'm waiting for somebody to go, oh my goodness, because we already have had it happen. I think Alfie might even remember this. I think he's in the chat room. I think it was about two years ago we had some 223 Russians that was used in an AR and they had some corrosion problems around the bolt and around the gas port, no a gas key, I'm sorry. That's going to be an issue no matter what and that gets back to the whole point of cleaning your weapon immediately anyway. Cleaning your weapon as soon as you get the opportunity to do so. It's not going to start rusting the moment you use it, but people have a tendency to get lazy or get comfortable with the idea that they can fire and then forget it and, well, I'll put it off for a day or two, which then becomes a week, which then becomes a month. Then they come back and they can't figure out whether they're special crystals. Redwoods. Growing, yeah. Growing in places they shouldn't be. Now they may not be so big they look like rubies, but I'll tell you what, you'll wonder when you're on the patch to where that rust came from, and we can't really afford that. I don't see the gas system being as much of a problem, but there again pipe cleaners and all the other tools in the trade that are supposed to be and have been part of the recommended kit going back to the M16E1 are going to be necessary. I would add more Chinese toothbrushes. That's the only thing I like about the dollar store. Boy, they got you baby toothbrushes, 20 for a dollar or 10 for a dollar. You can get ergonomically designed toothbrushes which have bends and angles, which means you can get up inside that chamber better, you know, around and around. Forgive me, around the where the bolt cams lock on the M16. That all is going to have to be cleaned, no matter what you do. And even with it, but especially I'd say with the 545. Hopefully that answered some of the questions. Yes, it does. By the way, did you send a... Oh, repeat. I'm sorry, repeat that again? You mentioned like two videos for... Yes. You're probably, yeah, you're probably on the top of the stack. In fact, you're right here. I know. I just have them. I'd have to look to see. But yeah, we've already been sending them out. So you're probably one of the first 40 or so. ...making a healthy keep. I'm trying to think... Hold on here a second. Now, there's another thing about the NBC video. There's going to be some additions. that are in that because I think we have a little extra space. So pay attention and when you get to the end of the video just remember don't shut the machine off. Always remember that. I gotta remind everybody on the air about that. Whenever we do videos we fill up everything we can. We don't leave any airspace. Sometimes things get cut off a little bit but I'd rather have too much in there than not enough simply because we repeat, repeat, repeat sometimes. So just be ready for that. Sounds good? That's right, exactly. The idea is, well, there's no sense in leaving dead air, especially I hate to do that because you've got to send the disc out anyway. And it's always something that people can use. That was the whole idea. Uh-oh. We're right at the top of the hill. We're top already. Anything else before we go? Well, that'd be it. Oh, right. I'm going to put one up in my mailbox and have a nice video of that. Excellent. Well, again, when you do get them, remember, make copies. You're going to already be in the mail. I just don't know what to get about two inches worth of envelope right here. So I'll let you know actually on the air because I can tell by what's in the stack. Sound good? You take it easy. And again, pay attention. We got a lot more going on. I guess everybody now, we're counting down the clock or whatever's going to happen. It isn't that far away. Thank you for calling. Well, as always, Don, God bless the Republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail. The Empire is on the run. We are on the run. Oh, damn. Thank you. We need to do that together more often, guys. Thank you. And again, we get a long way to go, but we're going to get everybody through this, off the other side, and dust off our folks, and get on with life.