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We are also on AM&FM microstations, CB Bay stations, and alternate technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with southern and central Alaska, and the Hallmark Network, eight colonial states on the eastern seaboard and expanding. On today's date is? All right, you guys, it's the 22nd day of April here. And we're looking at a bunch of other stuff happening around the nation. I want to say thank you. We had the call last hour about the ammunition treaty. They're going to try and push this BS through. You know that the, again, let's remind everybody what have they done in the past. They will see fictional tie in the Senate, push in the Senate, and the rest is history. The best thing to do is get this thing through the Senate. It's a treaty. Are you licensed to reload that ammo? It is located, the article is located at WorldNetDayline. You've got to go down through the page a little bit. I'm not too far down. One, seven, I think it's the eighth one down. Weapons of choice, WorldNetDailyExclusive. Are you licensed to reload that ammo? over treaty provision to activity. As it points out, and I'm not going to read the whole thing on the error here, but most important is that it is very, very specific about reloading. The session clearly identifies ammo reloaders licensed by the government, or as it is by the government, or it should say R, manufacturers of ammunition. Now that we have reloaders properly labeled down to that little kiddie paw help there. Thank you for the assistance, that's the rule. He then quotes Article 4 which states, state parties that have not yet done so shall adopt the necessary legislative or other measures to establish as criminal offenses under their domestic law the illicit manufacturing of and trafficking in firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials, but most importantly is reloading is perceived as such. So anyway, the idea is that then they're going to tell our system Make everything criminal that you do and because of this corporate slash contract under Admiralty Law which is what this BS is about and why we need to hang the buggers over it. Remember the Bar Association, your enemy, they're the ones who help to do this guys and that's the ones who are pushing this right now. Very specific. We'll get copies of the thing as quick as we can. I know it's already been generated and it's probably sitting in the email box. This is posted for April 21, 2009, 10pm Eastern. The article is by Bob Unruh, who you are, but 2009 WorldNetDaily. That is the title of the article. Again, it is Weapons of Choice. That is the category, Are You Licensed to Reload That Ammo? And as we know, the licensing will be first. Well, there are two ways to do it. Either initially make it phenomenal, in other words, so astronomical, nobody can, other than the ring knockers and the buddies, and it will be the foreigners that will be doing it, not Americans. Or they will start out by making it like the king did. Remember, if the T tax was too high, what did he do, Don, when everybody said that it was unacceptable to pay the tax? Oh, he lowered it. Even to the point where he was trying to sell the T for less than it was. but to try and get the tax in place but then after he put the tax in place what would happen next And of course if it had been plugged in the way the bad guys wanted it then we would have had an initial tax of 5 then 10 then 20 then 50 then 90%. Trust me it's how they do things. Everybody had seen it before. We don't need to go through that. We're not stupid. The bad guys apparently think a lot of people are and there are some nincompoops that have been educated by the public fool system. Yes they do have a problem with thinking. But we already have the glasses on and we really, really, really can see what's happening. So they're trying to do the Treaty Scam routine. This should not be a surprise to anybody. It is something that we saw through the 90s where they tried to come at it from that direction. If all else fails, they set up a fake vote. They'll have Biden. This will be one of those little crowns and little jewels in his crown as far as he's concerned. Remember, this is the guy who wrote the assault weapons ban the last time. So for him to come in and cast the tie vote that would give you this type of legislation and attack the Americans under another prohibition type program. Oh yeah, see the scam here. Then enough reason to go to war. You know what, all kinds of stuff. This is, you know, again the taxation, absolutely without representation. This old BS is going in through treaty. This is a, there's another word that ties into this. It's called treason. and when it's in violation of the body of the law of the nation, when it's in violation of the Constitution, when it is in conflict directly, which this thing is, and when it opposes the people of the United States, it is treason. And this is a treasonous act that these people are promoting through treaty. So, we understand the enemy. This is when the Shysters pushed the globalist agenda on America through this little clause that everybody warned everybody about and, of course, was fought originally and successfully in the Supreme Court only to have one of those bar prostitutes turn right around and suck up the way they do to their fellow, in more ways than one. I'm not just saying figuratively, when they suck up to their fellow bar members. Get my drift here. So anyway, that's in the motion. I want to say thank you again for bringing that to our attention. There's so much stuff going on. And again, for that reason, guys, you all better get the tools, not just the equipment, but as far as in the goodies, you better get the tools and the backup tools to get things done. Now, another thing, Don, that I noticed was Sarco. They have some odd reloading pieces of equipment. Sarcoinc.com. If you go into all the subcategories that they have listed, you will find that there are parts for some of the lee loaders for the shotgun shell loaders for lee. There are some hand tools. You need to take a look at what they have there and you need to consider grabbing what you can if it matches your equipment. They actually had multi-starshell crimpers. There were a couple other guides, there were some bullet guides, and there were some other primer taps. So it was a mix of stuff, not very much, I will tell you right now, not a whole lot, but there are a few items there. Go to the Sarco Inc. and check to see what they have on hand and see if there's something that's applicable to the machinery you have on the shelf. And I hear a caller, who do we have? Marcus, Marcus in Georgia, I'm going out on a service call, if I can't listen to the internet, I'm on the phone. Go right ahead. You got me? Yes. Hey, one thing, I know you come out with all this reloading stuff and everything, but I got an idea. There's a company in Ducktown, Tennessee called Leonet Arms or something. They used to call it Daniel Arms back in the day. And Jay made a little Model 5 long cold Derringer and single and double barrel and maybe there's little mini cheap shotguns and stuff. And you were talking about earlier the last, having something to give to the kids or don't overlook. I just want to bring this up real quick and I'll get back off the air. Guys, don't overlook a 410 shotgun. If you're shooting buckshot 410 slug, if you can kill a deer with a 410 slug, don't you think you might hurt a lead ball coming out at a man? Exactly. Actually, there's a bunch of 410s of all metal case ammunition coming in from Russia. Pretty decent stuff. Usually, I mean, we went to plastic because it was cheaper. Otherwise, full metal cases are much stronger and are more desirable, but the cartridge companies went away from them in favor of the lighter materials, and that's why we have plastic today. So there are four tin shells out there from at least a few sources for the time being to supplement the more expensive stuff that's being made by Remington and Flinchchester right now. Go ahead, please. Well, what I was going to say is that this company is back in the market making these little single and double barrel ones. They say they're 35 long colds. to meet the requirements of Superman, but I have. And they've updated the models, they've improved them, they're much better than the one I've got models from years ago. They said last cells if you need it, or getting close and do something in case you need something better. And be scared to use a 22 Magnum, 22 Long Colt, you know, and especially a two, but I've carried this little 410 double barrel for the longest. And I put down, you know, rabies and stuff like that. And like I said, and it works with your feet. And like I said, I was like anything, I do a little practice. But guys, you know, when it comes to combat situation, you know, we got to go through also and make sure no one has to get close enough to have to use your knife. You know, the 22 is awesome to make sure that the goop is, you don't have to get close. That's good effort if I got nothing but my little double barrel that's got five long coat rounds, semi-wad cutter, not scared to use it at close range and it's better than nothing. You're right, that'll put the dot at the end of the sentence. You're right. Well, pull this little thing out and, you know, a little short thing with two big, you know, and we're intimidating. But like, they do work and talk about paying five, six hundred dollars for this big, heavy four ten thing and, you know, whatever they call them, the thunderers and everything else. But we've been shooting this little double, you know, model DD Derringer for the longest. And the newer models are much and you just can't drive fire them. If you do, you got to have empty shell, empty hole in there. or buy you a couple of 410, 45 long colts, whatever cheaper, but you just don't, but let me get on back out, keep forgetting about it, because I saw them at the gun show, and I didn't realize they were back in business, something for people to carry. Very good. Another option on that is, etc. That's E.T. space C.E.T.E.R.A. They're located in Copper Hill, Tennessee. They also have those barrels, they have parts, and all the other components for those weapons. Right, that is the guy who owns that company too, out of the business. Yeah, there we go. One's the manufacturing, one's the parking. Very good. And again, I'll give the number on that. 1-800-642-1600. That's 1-800-642-1600. That's 1-800-642-1600. And the base number is 423-496-9050. That's 423-496-9050. So you get a chance to give them a call. You'll be talking to Mary if you call, et cetera, comma, LLC. That's E-T space C-T-E-R-A P-O box 929 Copper Hill, Tennessee. Postal zone number seven, I'm sorry, correction, correction, three seven, three one seven. And they have SKS see-through mounts that are American made. They also have S-cast flat top mounts that are American made. Give them a call if you want something of them to Chinese. These are all made in country Tennessee, Kentucky and other machine shops. There's different locations for the different parts they carry, but they're made here in Usaw rather than over in China. Anyway, anything else, Marcus? Well, no, it's not really. Like I said, some people can't afford, you know, a nice .45 like Don Scott. And they want something. They got this fortune shotgun. They want a handgun to go with it. Little thing to carry. something to use. It's something you can leave loaded all the way. Like you and everybody, if you know what you're talking about. Never leave ammo in a gun for safety. And I've been on mine a few times. I find it's in the back of your door, because it's over in Columbus, Georgia. They said they worked great and mine's last. And they're not weapon guys to shoot on five days, you know, five hours a day for six, seven days a week. It's emergency use only. You leave it loaded when you need it. That's what it boils down to. A repelling border pistol. Yeah, exactly. was That's the bottom line. I don't care what they come up with. He was murdered. That means the buggers are starting to eat their young just like we said they would. You know what I mean? Now all you got to do is take a look and see who was closest. It'd be kind of cool if he was smart and out of the sount. Of course, whoever the cops are, they could be pretty well manipulated anyway. But it'd be kind of fascinating if somebody had something there just recording things. A wise person figuring maybe, well, I'm going, but before they get through the door, I'll do this. And you never know what might be just laying around recording things. should be rather interesting. Oh, I got one I got one suggestion. Guys, I'm not okay. I mean, that is definitely not Christian like, but learn the skill that takes to get inside a vehicle, not having to bust like, you know, nine millimeter 40, the window out the window, learn how to get into a vehicle while having to bust a window. You know, you sort of want to be silent. Call the locksmith, you know, somebody else in the family can call you. and you know to get in a vehicle and you see abandoned somewhere you might need park skills guys all kinds of skills are good to know exactly appreciate that got push all thank you Marcus question mark no no just that that's in line you know that was what I was wondering is okay we're good careful on the job and again that was Marcus from Georgia we have oh let's see we've got dates coming up here remember second weekend in May still a ways out we have another the I know we'll have our hopefully one of our callers will be spot checking on that. A couple others have been wanting to put out some more information because we'll have some people that are friendlies that have displays down there. We're going to want to get that information out so you can go down and say hi and you know mention the intel report and you never know what you might get. Maybe a surprise. So we'll let you know about that as it develops. Don, one other thing here real quick is we're looking at a change in season, but right now this is about as clear as it gets in Michigan for long-range shooting. You're right. You know, there's a lot of foliage still off of the trees. So we've got decent weather. A lot of you that have wanted to experiment with long-range placement shooting. One of the things that I would recommend to look at is how, for instance, tree lots. are set up between fields or with terrain the way it is established. In the books, one of the things that I put in place there was what we consider to be a long range weapons amp. It's not a pop up at close range where everybody's spraying into a kill zone. The idea is utilizing cones of fire and destruction with certain weapons systems. What you do is you drop rounds into a designated target area. Remember that the M60, the MAG-58, the BAR, any of the SAW weapons, in many cases have other tripods rather than just the bipod that's on the weapon. But even with the bipod, suppression fire of a designated area or a cone of destruction established like artillery can be used to ambush at distance. And remember, you do not have to be up next to the target. In fact, you're satisfied with limited, even just limited disruption. However, under the right circumstances and with proper planning, a long-range light weapon or medium weapon ambush from distance is very, very successful. Psychologically, it's devastating because there's no possible way to respond. There's nothing that can be done by the individual unit that's brought into the target area. Ideally, you do it with vehicle ambushes. What it will do is force a security response. The security response will not be effective. That's just all there is to it. And it will consume time and destroy physical resources with an aggressor force. So, one of the things to remember, bipods for all of your weapons is not a bad idea. It doesn't have to be permanent. There's a lot of clip-on systems out there. You've got the old Vietnam era metal ones and you've got post-Vietnam plastic that were made after market that are the same size. There's a whole carrying pouch system for them. The other option are fixed bipods that are adjustable. There are different types of shooter bipods available. And these for everything from bolt guns to semis, work with both, offer a measure of stability which allows you to use the weapon to its maximum potential. And this is very, very important. Example is utilizing tree cover with say a break of trees to the left at the halfway point to the target area. A break of trees to the right, which creates additional coverage but is in the target area. And then the target area itself, which is, say, a stretch of road that breaks from a woods or breaks from cover, is typically flat or can be on the side of a ridge where there's even less latitude for movement. And the idea is that with a spotter, the shooter can actually, the shooters, the individuals engaging the target area, can be quickly and easily signaled without drawing attention. The weapons can be brought online, the spotter gives the signal for the approximate speed, and as the vehicle breaks from cover into the designated kill zone, the placed fire automatically drops into and creates the cone of destruction. You move the weapon forward of the vehicles and actually work the fire into the target column. And then at a given designated point, which can be done in a number of different ways, including use of multiple tracers, just to signal that you're at the end of the run, that you're as far as you need to be. What you do is break engagement without exposing yourself, without drawing any kind of return fire, because you're working at what are basically the maximum, though they're not the absolute maximum effective ranges, they're the maximum optimal range, where you're going to do the most damage, get the greatest penetration, performance will be consistent. and the target is either neutralized or has been engaged and has to perform whatever, maneuvers, it has to break contact, has to try and slow down, stop, they'll try to move through the kill zone, it creates confusion. There are going to be casualties, it is going to knock down one vehicle or many depending upon how effective your gunners are. It can be more than one gun, but one gun is enough. One M60 Browning 1919, Any type of belt fed will do in whatever flavor. Ideally, I like bigger and farther out because I don't want to be close. And the only people that would have to be closer are spotters, utilizing light mechanized or fast evacuation vehicles. The shooting teams can be in the area and then quickly out of the area even as the action has ended. As quickly as the action has ended, they turn, pull the weapon out of the position, walk back to the transport, wheeled vehicle, four wheelers, motorcycles, whatever, minimal signature target, fast and efficient, taking the individuals to a safe point, dropping them off and then dispersing the whole team and even disposing of the vehicle. Keep in mind guys, the idea is fog to disperse back into a given area without being detected. Most everybody argues urban area, urban area, wrong, wrong, wrong. Urban or rural, makes no difference. We fight in both. We know how to work in both. Anyway, Don, with that in mind, one of the other things that really comes in handy is one of those .50 caliber rifles. Now, when we're looking at ranges, say, of 1,000 to 1,400 yards, we're still looking at some pretty reasonable performance of that rifle, correct? 140 yards and not that good shot. Let's remember that we're looking at approximately 17.5 football fields. that isn't the straight line and at a thousand yards that's pretty much that's pretty close to some of the big 50 like immediate area are 20 literally from 2000 yards away and a couple of gun emplacements and sight comes the hail of if you have a number of bolts, I have the same action with line of sight and instead of people that are getting unnarrows over you might have yards in about 2600 feet per second you're looking at about 1.3 to 1.4 and a half. You know, it's almost an exaggeration to say that you put in a thousand yards, light a cigarette and bring it. If you come to the point where operating, Mark, you know that, you might take the average and a good danger, as example, and two of them just in 10 yard increments so that, you know, shooting it. Well, one of the things too, remember with utilizing both existing squad weapons that you may acquire, maggation, saw weapons are privately, a lot of them. You may also run into a number of different German weapons, MG1s for MG3s. You may also find the good old Forzer MG42s. Grandpa pulled his out with all the other goodies. He's ready to go and all the nectars have been pulled into place. He's ready to rock and roll. Well, that weapon will work just fine to serve integrated with our .50 caliber rifles. The .50 caliber rifles give us an interlocking screen and different umbrella of fire. that allows for a combination again, cone of destruction while accurately placing rounds into a specific. That can apply to light vehicle in skin vehicles as opposed to light armor or medium armor. And again, remember with any armor that's out there right now, notice something. Do you see any stereoscopic pull to the turrets? Any of the other optics or all you tread heads, all you guys that are looking at anti armor, consider this. You'll notice that everybody's gone to the bread box on the... Now I'm gonna be honest, guys, I were facing it off and I didn't have as much. A blinded tank is a blinded tank. And all the goodies, all the lasers, nonsense, everything is all clustered into one bread box. Anti-tank weapons you can accumulate, guess where I'd try to place my rounds? Half inch fire? Well, either A, if you've got the right round, you can put a hole right through the barrel, guys. During Desert Dust 1, what they don't like to talk about is Special Forces units and other designated Marines went out as teams and were used as long-range snipers with the Barrett rifles to punch holes through the gun tubes of artillery pieces. And in fact, everybody, one of the jobs guys, you're constantly inspecting the gun. You get a half-inch penetrator. through a gun tube or a main cannon tube on any artillery piece or on any main battle tank. If it's sitting in its part and you pop a half inch hole in it, that main gun tube is finished. You've just neutralized it as a primary. Its primary weapon is no longer a threat. Its secondaries are still in place, but I would recommend that if you're that good a shot, it's not much a bigger deal to deal with a coaxial gun the exact same way. In fact, you're going to maul, mangle and twist something like that. They may not even be able to get it out of the fixture. And so there are only a handful of points. Again, you don't try to punch through the whole of the vehicle. Don't think that way. Attrition on key components is just as significant. Aggressor armor has radio equipment. No matter how new or old, they have antenna fixtures. Guys, sweep the antenna fixtures, break things off, smack them and cut them. Remember that they can't talk to each other when the radio fixtures don't work right, when they're disconnected. Same is true with the optics being fragged. A lot of it is camera technology. Take a look at the LCD blocks that they're using or the camera system they're using, what they're monitoring from on the inside. This means that whatever the sensor collectors are, anything and everything from your light rifle ammunition and even your pistol ammo is scarring, scoring and damaging. Now everybody's going, pistol them, what's the take? Well, if you haven't studied American anti-armor policy in World War II, which by the way for most of the other countries was not the same, the United States policy was everybody engaged with everything. Now, infantry engaging heavy tanks, obviously they're not going to stop them. Well, they're going to do damage and they were going to trip them. Constantly putting warhounds onto the target, busting up communications, knocking out vision blocks. breaking components that are light components in the external vehicle although again a lot of stuff chewed into the inside too. A lot of the vision slits back then meant that small arms fire on the vision slits, hey 30 caliber ricocheting around inside is not a happy thing. And the whole fun there. That's right, might even pop the driver or the person trying to use a vision slot and the rest is history. But in the meantime even with more sophisticated equipment remember there's only so many spares even for the vision blocks. A lot of times you're going to see these pieces of equipment obviously trying to suppress and use whatever fires they have. But again, they're nothing more than man-made vehicles with a combined arms team and proper use of everything from thermal reduction technology, which includes intense or extra thick smokes, petroleum smokes, petroleum fires. burning tires, burning rubber, burning tar, to mask thermal technology. This is, you've got to remember, you put screens and sheets of heat in front of or through the battlefield. The other thing is, again, placing your rounds at distance. If you're capable of pretty well hitting a man-sized silhouette at 1,200 yards or the 50 caliber, 600 yards, you should be able to keep it within that pie plate without any problem. In fact, that's the close range, isn't it, Don? So here again, consider looking at the targets. Go to YouTube. You don't have to go join a military to see what all is going on with all the different armies. Don't go join the French army to see what they've got. Go to our favorites on YouTube. Go to libertytreeradio.4mg.com. Then go to our LTR videos, which takes you to our website, I should say our site on YouTube. Take a look at the favorites. I've saved a few things there with regard to combat operations with some of the foreign armies for a reason. Look at their equipment. that their techniques pay attention to what they expect to fight in understand how they are trying to draw or bring force to bear by trying to actually cluster up that sounds good to as soon as you start treating them they're going to have to start spreading out again and they'll be changing their tactics especially in the extreme built-up urban areas and it's no different with with rural areas in fact the problem they've got is because they're focusing so much on urban uh... shifting back over to conventional in any way shape or form in the in a uh... true temperate setting the can't handle it and they are going to learn they will but the uh... interesting thing is they've got everybody fixated repeating the mantra urban combat urban combat urban combat well that's just wonderful what if you look them dictate the battlefield conditions then they get to play the game they want first rule we dictate the battlefield conditions So that means we're going to choose the environment and we're going to be very adept in utilizing all the tools of the trade and the process. Now another thing too is remember that, and I want to touch on this real quick about munitions. This is Weapons Wednesday and this is why we're tying all of this in guys. There is no such thing as an obsolete artillery piece. Now people say, well what about World War I? Well here's the thing. Russian philosophy was the supreme definition of recycling but also of They would take every existing gun. Let's say that they had a brand new like the 122mm D20. They came up with new munitions. They had a whole new fusing system on board. Or for instance a 73mm gun on the BMP-1. New gun, new concept, utilizing discarding SABO. Well, they would perfect it for their latest weapons and at maximum ranges if at all possible. But guys, everybody else, any other piece of artillery that they had, had the same munitions upgrade. Now with artillery, this means that for instance you'd have the same penetration with a 76.2mm gun just about as a 105 or as a Russian 100 or a 90mm US. They pretty much all be in matching specification, except that as you go down in size with caliber, with millimeter, what happens is that you don't have the range because obviously you don't have the amount of propellant behind it. However, if you were within the umbrella of operation for that field piece, that gun, that howitzer, that anti-tank gun, then it had the same potential to kill you, or at least comparably scaled penetration. to its most modern counterpart. This is why Russia had and still has one of the largest artillery armies on the planet. They are heavily couched in the philosophy of the mortar. They had perfected mortars to the nth degree beyond what any other country has ever done, ever. Part of this is because of something we talked about in the last two hours, Don, about the Russians and their failure to actually maintain control and effectively use the military force they had in the beginning of World War II. They lost most of their artillery. They lost most of their tanks. They had to rebuild. When they rebuilt, they of course kept their weapon systems very narrow with regard to types and variants. But all of them had comparable abilities. This is true of a lot of the stuff that we see today that is still in service. By not throwing the equipment away, when they lost the artillery they went to mortars because mortars are cheaper and easier. They had everything from small squad mortars all the way up to 240 millimeter mortars. Yeah, we're talking sewer pipes. No, we're talking chimney pipes. Yeah. Okay, and nuclear capable by the way. Now in this present day, there's a lot of stuff the Russians they still haven't retired everything We just saw this with the Georgia campaign when the Russians went in and kicked the Georgians, but And again, what it was is the Georgians were going to abuse they were probably told by us and by the massage to orchestrate the action in Georgia There's no in northern Georgia. There's no doubt about it. The Russians responded accordingly They went in and they took a secondary combined arms army. They didn't use a frontline unit And there's an excellent example of how you don't throw your older equipment away. You upgrade it and improve its performance so it can stand on its own even against the most modern equipment. It just has to... Go ahead Mark. There are numerous... Go in and demonstrate that not only can I do it, but I'm going to show you that you're best trained, you're best equipped, which is really what happened there. We spent billions and billions on that military. And the Russians sent in a finger, a little finger. They didn't send even a fist, they sent a little finger in and dealt with the problem. Now if you look, both sides were using upgraded equipment. There's an example of what I'm talking about. The reason I bring this up is because there's another little piece that I just scanned it and I knew where they were going with it. Korea now has the largest artillery army in the world. Well, Korea embraced quite heavily and still does the entire Russian philosophy of artillery. The idea behind a Russian artillery, they actually have what are called artillery armies. They have artillery organizations that are massive. They measure hundreds or thousands of tubes. This includes cut usch goes in all scales and size. Remember they were smaller in the past. They've upgraded. You've seen them used around the world. Truck mounted artillery tractor mounted artillery. Self-propelled artillery, self-propelled rocket batteries, towable artillery. Nothing is thrown away. What this does is it gives you the ability literally to destroy, you know, we're not, won't say so much destroy, but saturate a given so many miles of real estate. What this does is for softening up in front of a combined arms army or in front of a combined force This gives the unit commander the ability to direct tremendous fires for shock value Now it doesn't operate in a vacuum. So everybody goes well there you go so many and you just return fire with counter battery radar and your satellites and and mr Spy point and mr. Jet mr. Well, they have those two Oh, that's right. This is a Class A army you're facing. Okay, now the Koreans, they're a little different, but hey, the Koreans are to the Chinese and the Russians what our Koreans are to the United States. Duh. See how that works? So we can talk down the Koreans, but I wouldn't want to face them. I know a lot of guys, I mean, if I have to face them, I'll face them, but I don't want to have to fight them because I know what kind of buggers they are. If I do fight them, I've got to fight them tooth and nail. They can't hold anything back. That's right. We found out what happened when we did when we were in Korea the last time. In fact, everybody forgets you better study the Korean War if you want to understand how you're going to get screwed by the UN. Because where it was done half arsed and where everybody let the UN interfere and spy and rat and provide intel to the enemy, because well after all the UN was being run by the enemy, the Russians. The Koreans were very adept and skilled as fighters. They are tenacious fighters. No, they are not all perfect. There is no single army that has supermen that make up every soldier. Eh, it doesn't work that way. But they were tenacious, they were efficient, they worked with little or no true resources. They are Korean counterparts, of course had a terrible time, a lot of them being dragged right off the street, thrown right into uniform, and vice versa with the North, I am sure. I don't think they had much difference there. But the Chinese have bolstered them up, again, grossly underestimated, performed better than expected. All bet did it with mass because they certainly didn't have technology. Oh, don't worry, we sold them everything to fix that, didn't we? Now again the Koreans are rated as having the largest single artillery army on the planet now. But understand that when they talk about this, where it got its philosophy and how it embraced this technology, how this came about, the Koreans didn't think about it. They're not just, oh they're really crazy, they've got old artillery and it's really obsolete. Guys, if you have more artillery you can take more hits. You see the advantage there? If you actually have more tubes and somebody does counter battery strike, guess what? If you're outnumbering them and you have equity in terms of performance, you've got more tubes to lose and still with a second shot, so to speak, you're still on the battlefield performing and at least comparable to whatever the other side has. That fits into that phrase that generals know. Now again, nothing is thrown away. So when somebody says, oh, that's an old blah, blah, blah, really stand up there on the well house. Let me take a pot shot with that old 3.5 inch bazooka. We'll see what happens. Yeah, you know, well, it's an old one. Okay. Well, it killed a whole lot of vehicles. It'll knock out a whole lot of other stuff in the process. And the very least, I don't want to be bare butt naked standing out next to it when it goes off. What do you think? You know, it's like, you know, people, they don't have the most modern guys. It would just happen. I'll retrograde here on weapons. When Hezbollah, you know, hullabaloo was over there fighting against the Israelis, you know, the kosher mafia, when hullabaloo was going up against kosher mafia and their combined arms armies came in, the Hezbollah units used everything that you can imagine no matter how old. Rifle grenades, 3.5 inch bazooka as you call it, 3.5 inch rocket launchers. Carl Gustafs, SAGERS 1, 2 and 3, RPG 2s, RPG 7s, RPG 18s, RPG 21s, any combination of other European knockoffs and whatever they get their hands on. And guess what? They made them work and against absolute error supremacy They were able to hold their ground and beat back a complete combined arms army with everything state of the art. So don't tell me about obsolete. That old BS is for the people who are trying to sell you more guns. And in many cases what they want to sell you is because it's something that their equipment was designed to neutralize as a threat. Dope didn't think about that one. When we diversify and use a wide range of systems, it is impossible to choke off one system. and destroy the ability of the entire force to fight. and eventually a 50 caliber was inefficient again.