On April 17, 2009, Mark Koernke and Butterknife discussed preparedness, ammunition alternatives, and food storage strategies. They covered SABO accelerator technology for 30-caliber ammunition to address bullet shortages, promoted a food inventory spreadsheet tool on PatriotMoney.com, and provided detailed guidance on building affordable food reserves using bulk items like rice, oatmeal, and canned fish. The show included vendor reviews (warning against Gunny's Surplus for non-delivery), product recommendations from Sportsman's Guide catalogs, and extensive discussion of NBC (nuclear, biological, chemical) detection equipment, radiological protection, and potassium iodide. Callers and chat participants contributed information on wholesale food sources and preparedness resources.
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It is the last broadcast of the day and of the week and that makes it da da da da quarter master quarter. We are going to be covering a lot of information. Get your pens and paper ready because we are going to start giving out contact points. Real quick for our friends in the chat room, they are discussing the, of course there are a number of different subjects, but I noticed that we have some pictures of some of the European slash NATO fuel cans. Now we do have a source, same source that I accessed the cans from years ago. They're the actual importers. We can access the spigots for those, either rubber or metal. The ones that are on sale right now are the metal ones. And I would recommend if you got the cans, try to pick up more. I will have particulars on that by either tomorrow or by Monday to confirm what our present price is. There was a sale that was going on. I think it just slipped by us, but they'll give us that price. We do quite a bit of dealing with a company to begin with, so that should work out. The spigots are available and our cost is pretty reasonable to say the least. You can go through Wolverine Military Outfitters, wolverinemo.com. Also, there are smaller cans. There are the one liters and a couple liters cans that are mini versions of those. I have a couple sets. They were done as maintenance kits for artillery and recoilless rifles. They are to carry the cleaning solvents and the lubricating fluids for artillery pieces. They are kind of cool. They can also be used for fuel. They were designed to handle POL, petroleum oil and lubricant products. So they won't have any problem holding gasoline. So there are smaller versions of the same thing available with the same size spigots. So the same European connector works with all of them. Another thing, and this is critical because we have confirmation, and we have some friends listening, Butterknife right now, that are working from the other end on projectiles. But here is something I want to remind everybody of. We have discarding Sabo technology accessible to all of us. In fact, the company, uh oh, now I mentioned it and I probably put them back where they belong. Heaven forbid I should do that. Anyway, I just want to make sure we put that information out. If you are looking at the cost of 30 caliber bullets as being exorbitant, and it is because there are so few places out there where you can get bullets, let's go the next step, guys. JND Components out of Orem, Utah. Their number is 802.225.7007. That's 8-0-1-225-7007. or 801-372-3807. That's 801-372-3807. Their website is www.jdcomponents.components and the telephone number one more times 808, I'm sorry, correction, correction, 801-225-7007. They're located out of Orem, Utah and JD components 7-5 East 350 North Orem, Utah 8-4 0-5 7. 8-4 0-5 7. And that's for SABO accelerators in the 30 caliber range. Butter Knife, what we're looking at is supplemental projectiles. We'll call them test projectiles in solid steel. That is the goal. We'll be cranking out a number of the silhouetted matches to the 55 grain Sierra Boat Tail standard M16 round. And that will nestle perfectly into one of these Sabo cups. Now, we have a hyperactive 30 caliber rifle that can achieve 4,000 to 5,000 feet per second. I would say that even if you just drop a standard SS109 in there, you're going to get interesting ballistics and that might be fun to experiment with. Oh, absolutely. But the problem, as we know, is getting more of the 223 bullets because of the backlog and inventory. You bet. What we're going to do is the steel darts will be available. so that we don't put a drain on our 223 bullets for standard loads, which is where we're headed, guys. So we're also going to do this with .30 caliber for the .50 cups. And we're working on all the specs for that. If you want to find out all the loading data, people are going, well, how will I know what to do with these? Go to the website. These guys, JMD, worked all the ballistics, all the technology. They have the computer, actually, they have the computer program. So that if you have a .30 caliber case, you punch in the dimensions, the specifications, And they will give you the ballistics, the load factors, what it is you need, the way of powder, etc., etc., guys. It's all there. So you're going to find out what your basic ballistic coefficient is. Obviously, you're still going to have to chronograph the round after you've loaded it. I would do a test batch of five, which we usually do, and chronograph it for speed and consistency, obviously maintaining a standard. And the rest is history. So this is a solution. I understand they had, hmm, 120,000, maybe 200,000 of those little sable cups on hand. Hopefully they've gone through quite a few and I'm sure they have because with the bullet issue being the way it is, People are trying to find solutions for 30 caliber because of the drain on the bullet supply. Everybody knows we're going into a war, now we're trying to deal with the problem. Well the cool thing is, remember this turns that 30 caliber into a Star Wars blaster people. Pushing between 4,300 and 5,000 feet per second, there is no flight time to target. It's like a ray gun. In fact, here's the other thing, when it gets to the target area, there's no body armor standing in its way. It's going through. It's not an amp, it's just a matter of whether or not it's going to pin them to the other side of the back panel. So, this is a solution. By the way, this will work with 300 Savage. 303 Savage. Let's see, 300 Wind Mag. Ooh, there would be a dart. Ooh, Butter Knife. That would be a blaster. Then right on down through all the 30 caliber loads to include 30 caliber Tokarev. Special loads of these table cups made up by our friends in Pennsylvania. They get five different tests. test runs using a number of different projectiles that were developed including a flat face projectile which was quite devastating on ballistic gel as in almost like it exploded. These have all been tested. They work exceptionally well and they work in any AK guys. So they work in the AK, the SKS. You can load up the Magot rifle with these Sabos. So don't throw anything away. waste any metal, don't waste any brass, expended aluminum, steel or brass. I don't care what it is, save it all. We're going to need it. Butter knife, you've got a lot of stuff to cover, so what have you got from your end, please? Okay, here's a little bit of routine business. We'll skip some of the stuff that we hit every week. I would like to mention once again that on a website called PatriotMoney.com. That is PatriotMoney.com. One of our friends put up that little page. Down in the middle of the page there is a downloadable spreadsheet. I wrote this spreadsheet. It works in Open Office which is free. You can download that from OpenOffice.org. And the purpose of this spreadsheet is to help people inventory and do calculations on food stores. So if, for instance, you have set aside 500 pounds of beans and 500 pounds of rice, and you're wondering just how long will that last, and how complete is that, and what do we need to add to it, you can punch that into that spreadsheet, and it will tell you those things. It has pre-entered data. Density and food values data, common beans, some miscellaneous other items, some lentils, barley, to this sort. Some of the more common canned food. It does not have everything under the planet. If you download this website, you can of course edit and update spreadsheets if you like and if you're comfortable doing so. If you are not and you have a foodstuff that you would like to see entered in there, suppose you've got enough Chef Boyardee speaking of your inventory and you aren't sure how to edit the spreadsheet to make it work, the code in the spreadsheet is not necessarily obvious if you don't pay attention to Open Office. You can go ahead and use the email link on that site. That's PatriotMoney.com to send the label information to Good Ol' Butter Knife. Just four numbers is all you need. The typical serving size in grams and the grams of carbohydrates, so right off the label. Send that in with the description of the item. And I will add that into the spreadsheet and we will update the copy that's on that website. So this is a collaborative project. Anybody who wants something on that spreadsheet that's not there, just go ahead and send in that data and it will be added and enhanced for you. You feel that you might be comfortable adding it into your own spreadsheet, but maybe you're not 100% sure. Consider this. If you send it into Butterknife, everybody else will eventually get the benefit of that as well. So even if you feel like doing it yourself, you might consider forming up a notepad sheet with items that are not there that are in your pantry and squirting it along and the spreadsheet will be enhanced. Now there are other enhancements planned for that that will make it prettier and maybe a little bit more versatile. Those are coding changes. But we solicit contributions of that data for the same sort of purpose, to enhance this and to make it better. A lot of these things you can contribute without spending a penny. Just send an email and spend two minutes of your time writing down those four numbers off the label. And other people will benefit from your contribution of data. I would also say that there's another situation in which people can contribute and help the entire effort along. From time to time, I have mentioned food vendors in my area of operation, but I don't know where to send people in Casper, Wyoming, or Mobile, or other cities around the nation. If you have ferreted out a friendly wholesaler, somebody who doesn't mind walk-in traffic, doesn't insist that you have a business tax ID in order to have the privilege of purchasing from them, that sort of thing, if that's a worthwhile vendor that patriots in your area would benefit from, By all means, send it to us. You can use that same email link that's on PatriotMoney.com. You can send it to Mark. You can appear in the chat room and tell people there. You can call in any of the programs, including this one. We don't care. We just care about the data. We will put out that information so that other people can find these outfits. Now remember, you benefit and your neighborhood benefits if These available resources are more widely known. This is not something to hold close to the vest. There are some things to do that with. This is not one of them. It takes time for people to scrape together some pennies and get moving and get down to a place like that and load up the truck and haul back the goodies. They take some time not just to scrape together the funds, but even to mentally get themselves in gear to do these things. The more lead time they have, the more likely they are to act. And the better equipped and supplied and stocked your neighbors are, the smoother everything is going to go in your area. That's fewer of them pounding on your door. That's more of them likely to contribute to the cause rather than just joining the starveling zombie mob, shuffling around looking for anything alive. So, it is in everybody's interest. This is a win-win situation if we share our commercial sources. Mark? Again, take advantage of this because, guys, we are doing this so that it makes it that much easier for everybody to connect with the resources that they need. Pitch in in whatever way you can through the machine that we've set up. We're in a tight schedule with what we see going on right now. And I cannot stress enough that we need to plug everybody in that we possibly can ASAP. Get this done and over with. Supply and support, once it started, is an ongoing affair because needless to say, you know, Butterdife, we know that nobody out there is made of money. If you are, I'd like to see that. You'd probably be dangerous near a fire, especially with paper currency, if you're made out of money. Not like the scarecrow. Hey, wait a minute. Anyway, the point is, we want to make sure that as you can with the budget that you have, you're able to meet a certain schedule. And I would recommend again that you pick, you know, do things in tiers because everybody's going, well, what should I focus on? Well, get everything to a certain level. In other words, kind of like, well, your personal defense issues have to be met right away because you have to be at that at a certain tier, at least basic preparedness. Your food inventory, your water inventory, your maintenance inventory, all needs to be brought to at least a tier where you can say, I have enough material on site to support me for so many days, so many weeks, so many months. Once you achieve that and you've got the thing started, then each paycheck or every time you can put some extra money together, you can then allocate certain funds towards each of the categories to bring you to the next tier. In each case, it might be a little different. NBC, Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical Defense equipment, from all the different sources we have, varies in price and you can meet your needs, at least in phase one, very quickly without spending all the resources you have. On the other hand, food is an ongoing thing because we're hoping that if you work it out right, you take advantage of the prices for certain things and you start building up a backlog. You can also start cycling some of this food, still part of your tactical delivery system, into your regular menus, the way you're working things out, you know, extra macaroni and cheese, lots of extra ramen noodles, whatever you've got in the way of rice, whatever you're doing in the way of volume food. What you do is you cycle it forward as you acquire more and you can confirm the date of packing or at least identify from the date of purchase. That goes to the back of the inventory and you keep cycling food forward, but you're also building up an inventory slash a reserve that you'll be able to use at your discretion. That's the purpose behind this, bringing everybody up to one tier or another. Over the long haul, you should be able to measure your food reserves in years, and it's not that hard. It really sounds more complicated than it is, and you have the ability to do it. If we get to the point where let's say that It's Sunday night or Saturday night or Saturday during the day. The hours closed obviously. They said, oh, looks like something hit the fan on the east coast. Schmidlattville has been wiped out by some mysterious forest and oh, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, I would recommend right off the bat that you head to your local feed mill or you go to your local store and you clear the shelf out of every container of oatmeal you can get your hands on. Why? Because of two things. Number one, quick and easy to fix. and you will see the potato chips vanish first. The other potato products in the milk are heavily lactose. That's actually almost candy, nutritionally. You will see the convenience foods and the munchies vanish first. You should be off there vacuuming out the oatmeal. If you go down to the feed store, go ahead and get rolled oats. Get wheat berries. You can sprout those. Chew them. You don't need a juice extractor if need be. That will give you vitamins and enzymes that you will not be able to buy off the shelf when the feathers hit the fan. Suddenly, supplies will stop in certain areas. And the other thing is, let's lay it this way, you may have other foods on the shelf, but if anybody comes to the door and demands that they're going to be eating your food, what you do is you offer them what you're eating every day. Now I would go to the dollar store, and by the way, I don't know why, don't ask me why, but an expert in our area right now. There are waves of cans of anchovies showing up. Seriously, a tonnage. We're not talking a little bit. We're talking it's anchovy month. Everywhere, there are all the dollar stores that are the better chains have a preponderance of the canned fish in that category of three different types of anchovies and big cans too, not small. Special purchase, big pallet in Brian for $1.29. I grabbed a box full of other things. can't beat that. For food stuff between that, I'll tell you what, that would be serious. That's a serious meal. To be quite honest, you take a can of that mackerel, you boil up so much rice, you take your spices and flavoring to change up the menu, and you're eating like a king. Most people in Asia eat this way every day. I would say two or three people can be well served by that single can. Yes, absolutely. That is an excellent point to bring up. I would highly recommend it. One of our friends to get his two year food supply up and online. Butterknife, that is what he did. We went, of course, to one of the Asian food stores, bought several tons of Asian rice in 25 pound bags, about two and a half, three pallets, and then purchased two pallets of mackerel, exactly as you're describing. And his logic is, since his wife, she knew how to cook rice in every way you can imagine, and was very creative with the menu, that in addition to all the other stuff they had, They certainly had what was needed to stay alive, to stay functional between what they were putting on the shelf and what he progressively would be adding through other inventory directions. One of the jokes is, like we said, oatmeal and a camp. Anybody who says, you're going to have to feed me butter knife. I need to be, I know you got food. What you do is you walk up to them and make sure you always have a bowl of cold oatmeal on standby. I'm serious. This sounds like a joke, but I'm not. and make sure you have a bowl of cold lumpy oatmeal that is sitting there like solid lump of porridge. When somebody comes demanding food, tell them, yep, you are going to eat just like we are. Here is your baggy full of oatmeal. Oh, wait a minute. Special today. Here is your can of anchovies to go with it. And a sleeve of generic brand saltines. Yeah, there we go. Yum, yum, yum. Now, I hope you enjoy. Get out of my face. Goodbye. I don't think they'll be coming back because they'll be offering whatever tainted MREs down the street with FEMA. Anybody dumb enough to take FEMA's handout has failed the Darwin test. We would just as soon have them do that. So for the consequences, they're going to be untrustworthy regardless. By the way, I don't have any problem with that for these guys, and of course I'll eat anything as long as it's It looks like it's not turned too moldy and even there pick the mold out if need be if you're hungry enough you're going to have to get used to that idea. Don't spill any of those on your clothing or every cat in the neighborhood would be following you around. That's a tactical problem. The point is that there's a lot of canned protein out there that's available that is, again, can be stored easy. Wait, wait, wait. Butter knife. Butter knife. That's not a bad thing. Then you have food coming to you. Oh, four-legged chicken with two chicken necks. Well, yeah, there's that. On the other hand, you're hiding out waiting for the convoy to come along, and there's spotters looking around saying, there's this great big pile of cats over in the corner. What's going on? Yeah, we have to be cautious there. Depending on the rations you're using, that's correct. Sardines don't do you much better, by the way, and the Mac call would be probably just about as tempting to the kitty cats in the area. Yeah, it does spill it. Now again, we're looking at cheap solutions for food here, guys, because a lot of people are saying, oh, this guy put any food reserves together. We're talking if you could peel off $20 each paycheck and just keep going to the dollar store or wherever you're going to go to pick up bulk something, quantities something. I want to do a little video. This is one of the things we might even get it done this weekend. It's nothing fancy, but the idea is give me a $20 bill and I'm not even going to go into the cheap store. There are two places I could go in town. One is more of a well-to-do, connoisseur type, vast cuisine and offerings in the higher pallet with regard to grocery stores and the other is just a regular grocery store. One is called Country Market. The other one is Bushes, which I'm sure they'd like to call Bouches. But it's Bushes. Anyway, the point is the one costs more. But I still could take $20, go in there, and I could fill a backpack up enough that I would be surviving for a hell of a lot longer than three days. Now, I go over to the other store and considering what's sitting on the shelf, if I look around, I could go even farther. But the point is that with $20, you can actually get a meal pack out pretty nice. And I will remind everybody, whenever you go to any of these places, Up front, for instance, they usually have coffee. And since they offer coffee, if you'd said you didn't have much money, they also have tea bags sitting there. And they have packs of sugar. And they have all kinds of cool stuff that would be cool to put in Ziploc bags and supplement your inventory. So right off the bat, you always watch for freebies. Anything that is not nailed down that you can get in any little quantities and keep adding to your inventory without getting anybody upset, and what happens is all of a sudden you have a pretty hefty backpack that you're chugging along and you'll be eating out of when the time comes. But we're going to do a little video just on that. Probably it will be like one, two, three sites. That way you can get a cross section. Dollar store? Well, obviously each item is a dollar, but you can end up with some pretty decent varieties of things and you can still walk out of there with a good chunk of food. My biggest concern is, again, how much do you want to open up if you're eating on your own? Because that's one of the things that I liked about the issue with using the tea bags individually or using the coffee packs instead of the big canisters of coffee. If you're going to have to do something, the military learned a long time ago, only open up what you need and if somebody chooses not to open up certain things, they're sitting there on standby waiting to be used later. Typically, in combat operations or any type of field operations, we usually go through about one MRE per day. We break it down into pieces. Of course, we would have other supplemental components like crackers and cheese, not the crackers and cheese like you see in the grocery stores, military cracker and cheese, which is much heftier and heavier and will stay with you a lot longer. And in that way you of course are taking in calories but you're doing it over a period, a longer period of time through the day. Eating one say snack goody in the morning, eating something like the main course for midday, saving the other parts of the meal and say crackers and cheese for the end of the day. There's a number of different ways you could do it. But the point is you can get that backpack to run a lot longer than three days. My biggest problem is that most people are a little too heavily pampered, even with the MREs there. Because guys you can suffer with a lot less and even suffer you can live comfortably with a lot less, and you'll still be happy So we just have to work it out. Again, false fails, buy what you like, buy what's tasty, whatever you choose, we can't make you do anything in particular. And I'd rather you have a pile of whatever tasty little goodies you think you can afford so that you're happy in the process. But just make sure you've got enough so you can spend more than a day or two sitting in the apartment. And then you've got to go over to Putterknives and have rolled oats and anchovies. If there is no other motivation that will get you going, then the prospect of experiencing butter knife cooking is an excellent reason to go get your own stuff now. Freeze Dry Guy. Freeze Dry Guy has been dealing with him for 30 years. That is not an exaggeration. I have known him for 30 years in the business. He has got some long-term connections with the military for procurement as far as surplus goes. 866-404-3663. That is 866-404-3663. That is for food orders. Now, of course, orders only as far as I don't know, I've never bothered with this other number. 530-265-8333. That's 850-265-8333. And that says orders only please. It's kind of strange, these would be the other way around. But the 866-404-3663 is the number to call. Again, freezedryguy.com is where you want to go on the web. He has an email of info at freezedryguy.com. configuration for submarine rations, which is what I prefer. You're looking at the straight food. No special preservatives, no special processes. Whatever is supposed to be in the can is all that's in the can, as far as what it says. Peas are peas. Corn is corn. Beans are beans. Trust me. And no special exotic flavor or anything like that. No salts, no sugars, just the food. So for our special diet people, that is a solution. In fact, Butterknife, you had some other connections on food tonight. Yes, no? Not specifically on food tonight. Let's move on to the next thing. I'll repeat. Anybody that comes up with wholesale supplies, by all means, get them to us and we will put them on the air. It's our responsibility. We've brought you a number of useful shopping leads. It's also our responsibility to bring you negative leads. A few programs back, we featured a number of items from Gunny's surplus. One of our friends in the chat room says that he's placed two orders with them and they've been very reliable in hitting his credit card but not in actually delivering anything. So he's going to have to be calling his card company and telling them to stop that payment. It's a little sad to report that somebody that we found and had some good prices on some things does not appear at this point to be as operational as they ought to be. They're out of something. They certainly should not hit the card, but we will report that. Other people can have a little bit better trust in our leads because if we find one that's not good, we will say so. In the same vein, a while back I purchased a red dot rifle sight. This was NC Star brand. You'll be seeing a lot of NC Star around. It's China Sport and it's carried in a lot of the different catalogs. Full range of optics. This one I purchased off of eBay and even though I ended up with very little. It was a In the case of this one, it did not have a red dot. It had about 200 red dots closely aligned with each other and in a sort of a teardrop smear pattern. Apparently, operator 19 in the factory is either a little hungover or didn't peek in this one. And it's probably a flaw in the mirror. But this one would leave you in a little bit of doubt as to exactly where you're pointing this guy. So I returned it and I personally am not enthusiastic about the NC Star brand even though that's only one item and I'm sure that others they produce are adequate. But I thought I would mention that. If you're looking at these guys, if you can pick them up from a local retailer or somebody fairly reputable so that you can examine them before purchase or return them should they prove unsatisfactory, I would recommend doing that. I would have higher confidence in any of the known name brands, even in the low-end Simmons, BSA, mid-grade Bushnell Simmons, but NC Star in my very limited experience here has had a glitch and is worth a little bit more caution. Do we have a color? Uh oh. I heard a beep. I'm thinking too maybe. Well, we may have someone just patiently listening. Quite. There are some people that listen by means of the telephone. I was flipping through a Sportsman's Guide flyer catalog, etc., which arrived a couple of weeks ago, and I haven't gotten around to putting that on air. I found a few things here that I thought were worth calling out to people. I have mentioned this in the past. They continue to list the 32 ACP chamber inserts. These are lathe turnings. which fit into the chamber of your .308 or your .303 or your .30-06. They accept a .32 ACP round up the back and they allow you to use your rifle as a reduced longer. The cheap ones, these small pistol cartridges are becoming harder to find, but if you have a source of those and if you have anything in .308 or .303 or .30-06, You may find it expedient to pick up one of these guys. These are at $15 a piece and I think that's kind of a neat item. We have mentioned that in the past so I won't spend a great deal of time talking about it. But I will remind people that they do list this as continuing to be available in this current catalog. Next item. This one is if you have used athletic tape or stretchy bandages, etc. in recent years. There is some stretchy self-clinging tape which simply gets wrapped around an ankle or a knee or something and will stick to itself. You don't have to use the fabric adhesive tape like we did when I was in high school, for instance. This stuff sticks to itself. A sportsman's guide lists some of the self-cling wrap, but it is in camouflage. So the idea is that you can wrap this around your rifle stock and your forehand. They show it even wrapped around a scope. That certainly is intricate work. But that does strike me as a useful item since it's not like the duct tape where it's going to leave a lot of sticky behind that you may have to clean off later. That wraps and conforms and sticks. Now if you go heating up your barrel heavily, this stuff might, in my opinion, have some problems with the heating. But that does seem to me to be a useful item. It's in a primarily green digital camo, and they're offering four rolls of that for $20. I think that's certainly worth investigation. I will not claim to have tried that stuff out because I have not tried that stuff out. If anybody has a differing opinion on that, go ahead. I think that's probably useful material to have on hand. Are you familiar with that stuff, Mark? Yes, and in fact, more than serviceable for our purposes. Okay, very good. A few pages in, these guys have a brand new, probably new old stock. Civil Defense Radiation Detector or we used to call them WARMETERS. What really grabbed my eye on this thing, these are like the other ones that have been listed. There are only a few models of these. They have been converted over to use D cells or AA cells, which is good. Originally produced, they used some oddball dry cell batteries. All of these guys have had DC to DC converters installed so that they will use D cells. These are standard yellow handheld war meters. They're offering these for $60 a piece. I recently stumbled across my old war meter I bought in the mid 80s and actually had the invoice packed in the box and I paid over $300 for a fully equipped one. So, $60 strikes me as a definite bargain. Especially when you consider that we've seen actually that price much, much higher for the same item only in the last couple of months, as far as the actual overlay of the cost. So, for what we're looking at price-wise and for the type of mission that we're applying it to, it would be who of you to actually move on that as quickly as we can. Right. We speak of the gas masks and the filters and so on and their necessity in a radiological environment, but that begs the question, how do you know when you need to put the things on? Well, you can maybe get some warning over the radio or something along those lines, but if you have a meter, that will tell you if the environment is hot. You need to be using that. As a matter of fact, one of the other things too, and of course I'll just quickly mention this, what we did with the latest video, it covers pretty much all of the systems from dosmitters to sensor systems, sensor paper, you name it, that's all in there with the new videos. cover the masks, the hoods, chem suits, replacement components, decontamination, sensor technology. Plus, now there's another little bit of work we're going to do that's going to cover the electronic sensor systems that are actually out there in another format. And let me remind everybody of this. Some of you work in the maintenance environment or you're working with maintenance and service support for buildings. A lot of people have the oxygen sensor systems as part of their emergency equipment whenever they are called in for a gas leak or somebody is smelling vapors or whatever. The same systems that typically are used that have the oxygen sensor array on board also are the same model that is used for chemical NBC detection with the Department of Defense. The only difference is the models that are typically being offered, they're about the size of an old transistor radio, are OD green. They just leave them in a natural metal finish. The big expense are actually the sensor pads. However, I would remind everybody, if you're in a position where you're in a job that requires that technology, I would keep it all up to snuff because you could also make it very, very accessible so that when the time comes you have both the original equipment and backups and that could go into our inventory off the shelf very, very quickly. Oxygen sensors are kind of handy to have too because if you're working with tunnel or if you're working with any kind of excavations underground, having oxygen sensors in place would be a real plus plus for your crews. It doesn't mean that you don't go without pushing ventilation into the area, but if you're having to work and you don't have the ability, but you do have the oxygen sensors on standby, you'll know when to pull your crews and actually wait for a bit before you move your troops back in. Or if you operate in a thick cloud. Or if you operate in a thick cloud and you're not sure whether it's good enough, that will tell you. Exactly. And that's what we've got to be looking at here. Again, somebody else can spend the money and provide the technology right now, guys. All we have to do is make sure we maintain it. When I worked for the U, every facility, every building, we had to have oxygen and chemical sensor technology. And I made sure that we had everything up to snuff and in triplicate. And the machine shops were actually outfitted the same way so that when the time comes, We can simply walk in, carry everything away, palletized, and we're completely upgraded across the board. Other people's money, since the bad guys are financing it, and since it's still a required item on top, everything else. Remember OSHA requires this in most states, that you have the technology on hand, especially if you have crawl spaces, if you have internal generators, if you have internal water cleaning and processing systems. and not the least, which would also be in another area, refrigerants. You have refrigerants now that are highly dangerous to the people of the United States because of this goofy treaty that they signed. In the past, with what we had in the tubes, it wasn't a problem. Now if we have a leak, it's dangerous to the people around where the leak is, and it's dangerous to the man coming to work on it. The R12s and the similar R-Freons that were banned, had a smothering hazard, but aside from that they were 100% safe, they were non-toxic, non-flammable, everything else. It's my opinion that this whole fake ozone thing was simply an excuse to ban them because I'm surprised it just happened that the patent on that stuff was expiring. and all sorts of third party chemical plants around Central and South America were about to come online producing that in quantity. You ban that and force everybody over to a more expensive, dietary replacement whose patents are fresher and that is hundreds of billions of dollars from American international chemical industry. Who cares if I'm coming in contact with the replace of hydrofluoric acid which is bad. for humans and other living things. You need to balance these things off as corporate profit. Again, for that reason, the technology is sitting there, guys. All we have to do is remember to have it in inventory and know where it is when the time comes. It shifts over to our NBC support units, Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical Defense, and especially for detection or designated NBC personnel at the unit level. You have an NCO, a couple of NCOs typically, and you'll have an officer who's designated as the NBC monitor. The officer maintains along with the NCOs, each one maintains their own log book, but the log books help to identify the level of threat or potential threat and then how it was dealt with. Again, this is very critical when looking at long-term casualty issues. the sooner that you protect your people from a perceived threat as it's identified, the fewer people you're going to have with short-term effect, and certainly you're going to eliminate most of the long-term effects that you may not even be familiar with yet. Can we say Agent Orange, which of course wasn't an NBC agent used against us, but a lot of guys were either bathed with it or if you've ever seen the guys mixing into the tropics in 100 degree weather with almost absolute humidity, the guys typically, instead of wearing all the protective gear and the chemical suits, would strip down and be almost bare naked, basically with nothing but ripstop fatigue pants on. and they bathed in the stuff. So, needless to say, that wasn't a good thing. The disgusting part about that is that the dioxin that caused them so many problems was just a careless contaminant of this stuff. Yep. It wasn't even planned. It was just sloppy. It was part of the side effect that became so terrifying and detrimental to the individuals who were affected by it. We have the ability to protect. In the event we perceive a spray threat situation, if we can identify radiological, especially radiological guys, they really do underplay the fact, contrary to the BS, remember, some of all fears. Remember when the main character is dancing around looking really dynamic with a little bit of dust on his face? He's getting these big white flakes of things all over him? Yeah, none of that. What were those big white flakes? I'm going to write his health insurance in future, thank you very much. What were those big white flakes coming down? They were Fred and Joe and Mary. Yeah, and he wasn't running around with a respirator or anything, was he? Because he wouldn't look good with a respirator around for the movie. Well, you don't want to conceal the very expensive mug of the prime actor. Exactly. But otherwise, guys, let me point this out. We know because of true battlefield experience about the side effects and the long term effects of radiological fallout. This is not a guess. The two largest laboratories on the planet for the longest time, and even to this day there are still survivors, is Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In both cases, the population, because the very nature of the Japanese people and how they tend to congregate in a given household area for generations, didn't leave their area of concern where they were attacked. And so they were heavily documented and mapped through their entire lifetimes, up to death. Now, not only do we have that, but remember, up until the time where we set up a treaty on it, above ground nuclear testing was the norm rather than the exception. Nobody knew. Yeah. And so here we had first A-bombs and then, boom, hydrogen bombs. and a whole bunch of testing was done there. Well, we did understand by then the radiological threat, although obviously we don't want to be crispy critters nearby and we don't want to be too close in the second peripheral area where you're irradiated enough that you could basically microwave food on your tummy, okay? Not in, on. Well, the point is that in the other areas, and especially with fallout, inhalation is the most common contamination. That's the way it gets into the system. Certainly, laying on the surface is one area, but it's not as critical. That is purely by screening and covering the body. Can you protect yourself from basic fallout there, unlike the main character in some of all fears? Also, inhalation, because that takes it right into the respiratory system, goes right to the alveoli, through the alveoli it's transferred to the circulatory system, and it gravitates towards those organs, as we know. That's right, all those glands. It's why we take potassium iodate. It's why potassium iodate came about as a solution. Well, I'm familiar with potassium iodide was the original material, the intention of course being to flood the thyroid with stable iodine. as being less likely to cause nausea and other side effects. But exactly how they discovered that that would be a good idea. No, I have not heard that story. Purely by accident at the end of World War II, obviously when those two bombs were used, Japan of course we've been bombing their supply trains and ships and whatever to the point where they had very little in the way of medical supplies. Oh yeah, the seaweed. But one thing they could produce was iodine. What happened is casualties were moved immediately. In fact, they had a very efficient system for supporting casualties. Many casualties were moved from the periphery of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Unfortunately, they were moved downrange into the fallout wave. What happened is if you were horribly burned or if you had any burns, the only thing they had as a solution for dealing or treating wounds was iodine. And what they did is they would swab massive quantities into the wounds and onto the wound areas to try and of course keep the infections down. What they found is that individuals who were untreated and almost unscathed were dying for no known reason that made any sense. On the other hand, casualties who were quite horrific with 30% burns, 20% burns, and were injured in other ways with perforations from secondary projectiles survived right next to a person who was relatively healthy or in some cases were people who were actually the doctors or nurses treating them. Well, it turns out that they found out that the patients had been inundated with a vast amount of iodine which was topically applied. It went through the skin, went into the circulatory system and flooded the glands. and the thyroid being protected eliminated them from the radiological threat even though they were affected by the fallout. In other words, they bathed in it, so to speak. It fell, it dropped in the area, they had the black rain, they had other problems. And these people actually survived beyond the initial attack and then beyond the fallout phase. And so then doing more research with this compartmentalized small population, they identified and isolated what was the solution. It was purely by chance that we found out, and because of our prolific bombing capability against Japan, that iodine was brought forward as a treatment for them and Ergo discovered as a solution with regard to radiological contamination. A fluke, just like you were talking about earlier, a fluke, a side bar that had nothing to do with, gee, how can we deal with radiation? It was more like, man, we've got to burn here, I've got to do something. We've got a guy with a big gack here and he's got a whole bunch of flesh missing. We've got to keep him from postulating, turning to a big ball of pus. We've got to keep him clean, and we've got to treat it. Well, that's all we've got. Here we go. And the rest is history. So anyway, that's the story of Potassium iodate, where it came from as a solution, obviously in a better or restored form. But any iodine will do. And like you said, another solution would be because iodine comes from how many different sources? It comes from an awful lot of them, but there's almost anything aquatic from the ocean will have some iodine content. Yes. Again, Japan was able to access their island state. It was one of the few things they could produce in sufficient quantity and provide their troops and their civilian population. Anyway, the rest is history on that. There's the rest of the story, as Paul Harvey would say. Now, Budder, if we got only a few minutes, so jump in there. Anything we need to cover still, go right ahead, please. I have many things more to go. We'll hit a few quickies. The last couple of items from the sportsman's guide, and then I get to throw away the flyer. They have China Sport knockoffs of the lens attic compasses, two for $15. I consider that a highly acceptable cost. They describe them as metal enclosures. So that's probably die cast, zinc, or something along those lines, pot metal. But that should get you up and running, give your butter knives some sort of compass to stash in the pack. Some compass is better than nothing and two for $15 is an acceptable price. Beats the heck out of $50 or $60 a pop for the genuine item. They also list Bulgarian 54R at $90 per spam can, which is by current standards a highly attractive price. Of course, the usual caveat is check the shipping cost and the secondary caveat being that this is Sportsman's Guide. They have a history of listing ammunition that they do not have in inventory. So call and ask them specifically, do they actually have inventory on this and what would the shipping be. It may be expedient to pick that stuff up locally, but you never know. $90 per spam can is a good price on the face of it. Check your shipping parameters and so forth. A couple of other reminders, we've mentioned this before but they remain active. MilitaryGunSupply.com continues to list the Sega 308 16 inch barrel conventional comb stock. They say they serve them available for purchase at $600 each. They also continue to list the Glock 19 and 17 magazines. Both are available 10 per...
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