December 15, 2008
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Mark Koernke hosted the second hour of the Intelligence Report on December 15, 2008, discussing preparedness training, border security, and an upcoming multi-day militia training exercise scheduled for January 8-11, 2009 in Durant, Oklahoma. Callers and co-hosts Mike and Alfie addressed topics including emergency childbirth training, teaching children survival skills, the deployment of Marines on the U.S.-Mexico border, the role of county sheriffs and coroners, and detailed logistics for the Oklahoma training seminar. The show emphasized the importance of training trainers, building community networks, and acquiring practical survival knowledge through structured instruction and resource sharing.
- militia training
- preparedness
- oklahoma seminar
- border security
- marines deployment
- sheriff
- survival skills
- emergency childbirth
- ranger handbook
- new world order
- constitutional rights
- training the trainers
- durham oklahoma
- flagstaff training
- force multiplication
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Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've taken Satan's number You've traded in your name You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm And keep our country deep in debt put men of God in jail harass your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths. They've sworn and your daughters visit doctors so their children Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms He fought to keep what would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free and good afternoon ladies and gentlemen This is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm our kirky and I'm Michael Nasser And out my field, there we go. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories. South, southwest, central and northeast. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we're on live 365, then go to Liberty Tree Radio. You will also find us on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and ultra net technologies, both east and west of the Mississippi, southern and central Alaska. And we're on the hallmark system on the east coast in six colonial states. Mike, today's date is? 15 December 2008 Monday. Oh no! And what's happening down in your neck of the woods? Anything exciting way down there in Arizona? Well, it's real overcast. We're getting up north. It's snowing big time up in the north part of Phoenix. It was raining yesterday. They said it was supposed to start raining down here, but it ain't seen nothing yet. There was a truckload of about 13, 14, 15 illegal aliens speeding through the desert yesterday, and it overturned, and two of them died. They weren't even being chased by the police. They just had the banjo music. What it was, you see, they made the mistake. They had the banjo chase music in the cassette player. And it just forced the driver to use the accelerator. He just couldn't help it. And the rest is history. So, sounds like, well, you know, probably just had a schedule to meet. You know what I mean? Sounds like a normal paramedic run in California. Anytime we had a multiple casualty incident, we could guarantee a triple O to e- illegals on the freeway. Now otherwise real quick here. We are familiar with what happened a little bombing up in Oregon. It was rather an interesting situation Apparently a threat against a bank or banks and what was fascinating about it is you can go to YouTube There are several videos that will follow up videos on this guys Standard operating procedure as far as I know is not to take a device that is suspected of being a bomb Into the building that you were worried about being bombed, but that's what they did So again, LOH, loose operator headspace prevails here and everybody's saying this thing looks really strange across the board. Two individuals were killed, police officers, and the police chief was critically wounded. Gee, sounds like the crew that was around the device that they picked up and carried into the building. Basic rule is, as we know, this is also true of duds. If you come into or run into a dud, you want to be very very careful with that. Okay, in other words, as in don't touch it. If you have a dud or a failure to discharge with any kind of grenade, border round, 40 millimeter grenade round, artillery shell, you don't know if it's on that last one-tith of a spin and all you do is pick it up and everything goes ticky and you get washi'd. Okay, so we leave it sitting where it is and we don't move it. If we suspect it, It's really not costing us anything to leave the thing there where it is. In fact, it's saving us a whole lot of heartburn probably. And there are individuals that you can draw on to deal with the problem or you might just leave it right where it is, mark it really well, sandbag the position around it so that it's secure and isolated. Maybe down the road you might have some other use for it. You never know. That might be applied to other critical problems where a certain level of high explosives are required. know what I mean. But anyway guys they took the bomb into the building and then the rest is history. Now very much so. Other things happening and here we have a caller I think right now waiting wings, caller wait right there. We have Alfie Omega with us and we have Mike from Arizona and this is part of the training team for these up and coming exercises. Now why don't you get your pen and paper ready. If you're just now coming on for this hour because you couldn't make the last hour or if you're holding over We're going to give all the information out for the exercise again and a lot of what you need to know before you hit the ground. But I'm going to ask that anybody that's with an earshot, if you're part of a team and you have a number of people, I want you to pool your resources and get one person at least as a representative from your team, ideally two, but if everybody were to pitch in, that wouldn't be that hard. Hey, number one, gas prices are down. Okay, so now you can fill a tank up for less than half the cost you could only a month ago That makes it a much more affordable proposition. I'll tell you what guys before we go any farther I know we got Mike and we got Elfie here, but we have another caller. Who do we have? Hey Marcus, George from Texas. Hey George, I want to ask Mike a question I heard Governor Napolitano is going to be a Homeland Security the head of Homeland Heartland Security Are they talking about the Lieutenant Governor taking over or having a special election? No, it's the Secretary of State Jan Brewer. We don't have a Lieutenant Governor in Arizona, but the Arizona Constitution sets up for the Secretary of State's takeover. She's a Republican. Oh, Alfie, you still there? Yes, sir. Yes, I was sitting there talking about my wife, I'm talking to my wife, and I was wondering if we ever go to Oklahoma, my wife would be interested in learning what they call being a midwife. Because, you know, when the hammer falls, you know, you ain't going to find an obstetrician to deliver a baby or something like that, or basic nursing care. I guess that'd be my responsibility. I've delivered 12 over the years. I'm sure I can do it again, not something I enjoy doing as far as medical skill, but can I do that? Yes, not a problem. There are some midwives in the area, Indian nation here, they do quite a bit of that through actually a midwife there, I think, at the clinic. So I think those will still be available. Whether you can find one when you need one, that may be a problem. Because I can see, like I say, if you or Mike are in the field, and come back and deliver a baby might be dangerous. You might get a lot of risk involved in it. And also too, about kids, like my kids, teaching them how to evade, elude, and try to survive just in case something happens to the parents. Well, that's something that we haven't looked at for doing training on. I don't think that's something you can do in four days or even give an idea of. I've got some people coming to this meet that are actually bringing their children. Most of them are 12 and older. And their biggest concern was whether these kids could contribute or be allowed to have some training. And sure, I'd love to have the children here. uh... we've got uh... i know there's a few common my kids are actually going to participate in some of this this time my son's going to jump in he's decided finally that he needs to get a little more up-to-date and uh... my daughter does some of our livestock training so she's available to assist with with some of that training also i still think it starts at home you know the parents those guidelines and they've got to be part of their response We've tried to present that information to our children. My kids both have quite a bit of medical experience and they know when to call dad and when not to and try to give some advice. You brought up the liability issue on my liabilities ever since I started in this 30 some years ago. The thing that I see as being the biggest liability is going on your bounds, one, trying to accomplish some of the things that I've done over the years. I've never had a problem. We run a little and a lot of the kids in the area that don't have insurance or don't have parents show up for a lot of different things to do that. Now, you know, there's a potential chance of me losing my nursing license over doing that. Am I going to stop doing that? No. I feel that that's my obligation. God gave me the skill and abilities to take care of people and I'm not going to turn him down and turn these people away. That's my, uh, my alb- around my neck it's something that i have to do i can't turn that away that's my responsibility to people in general uh... my wife and i've taken a lot of people to help out and and we've helped a lot of people along the way and that's something we just have to do i couldn't do it any other way well it's just almost there any manuals out there or you were like it from the like each and other survive out in the woods just in case they're lost. That's my biggest concern, if something happens to me and the parents, I want my kids to be fully repaired and know what to do. Go back to that Boy Scout manual, probably the best book out there. That was designed for kids. It's written for kids. It's on that level and there's a lot of information in there. I know there's a lot of things I learned from being a Boy Scout and working my way up through the ranks and if I had to give one book, in fact I did, all my kids have a Boy Scout manual. That's one of the books that they got. It's easy reading. It's not complicated. There's not a lot of big words in there and things that you need to explain as you go along. And we use that as our reference manual and we went from there. Actually, one of the things I'd recommend guys too is the older you go to the used bookstores You'll find a lot of the older scout manuals out there The newer scout manuals in some case all of them are good all of them have something in them and all a lot of it's very very useful But the older ones are less politically correct. They actually are just need to give you a lot of information Then they're not worried about oh my goodness. There's somebody gonna get their little panties in a joint bind over this So if you get the older ones, you'll find that there are some interesting bits in there on rustic living that I guess they now proceed to be not as critical. Personally, my attitude is I do want to know how to build something from nothing and then work my way up to the other cool stuff that I can acquire. and with the munchkins especially you can put one in every backpack you should put one in every kit not one for all of them put each backpack together with any of the data that you think they can absorb in their gear and it stays there it doesn't get pulled out if you want more go buy more in fact they're so cheap when you go to the bookstores use bookstores you buy extras and you use the ones for class in the classroom so to speak when you're homeschooling. You use the ones, you keep the ones in the backpacks so that if they had to grab it and run, even if you're not right there, that can give them some ideas. and that's a critical component because a little, we try to get everybody to carry the militia SOP handbook. It's a quarter page, it's a quarter page size. It's one quarter the size of a regular 8.5x11. The other thing, the Ranger manual. How many people remember the old little Ranger manuals they used to make? Guys, a lot, wealth of information there, everything you need to operate a squad or a platoon, but also survival information. Little bits and pieces, nothing real fancy, but it gives you a base, something to work with. So anytime you can provide that kind of technical information and get it out there where it's going to be useful, the only thing I'd say is, hey, Mr. Ziploc bag is awful darn cheap. Make sure the books are in bags so they're secured so they stay dry. That's just common sense. In fact, I would spend money, big money, and buy one of those real cool, clippy Ziploc bags with a little thing that slips back and forth only because it will cost a few pennies more. But it's worth it because it will protect the books. That's critical as much as anything is maintaining the equipment, not just having it. Maintaining it when you're getting soaked, getting cold, getting out there to the stars and finding the whole world of nature waiting for you, all the weather included. Yeah, and another thing to go along with that, the merit badge books. I've kept a lot of my old merit badge books on pioneering first aid, swimming, There was just a little bit of everything that you learned as you went through and got your merit badges. Those are great manuals. In fact, they even have the tasks so that you have an actual training guide and training outline to use. So those are a big plus. And we still use some of those. There's a lot of good information in some of the older manuals. So that's another thing to look for. Also, too, I even started putting like a like what they call a five day pack, putting enough food in their backpacks for like five days just in case they have to go run and they can't make that sufficient. Yeah, if you actually take a look at equipping for the New World Order part one and part two are on YouTube. If you go through there, you'll notice that in part one, that's what I did was an extensive segment there on dealing with the children. And one of the things you should have already is a backpack. Daypacks are so cheap now you get them from the dollar store. But you can do nicer than that from a resale shop and get a high quality teardrop backpack and have it kitted out purely oriented towards the children. nothing fancy, nothing that would take any time to figure out. I'd rather give them a whole bunch of food that they can rip open and chew on than anything more sophisticated because if they're isolated you want it so that it's easy to use and that they're going to consume it. They're going to take it in. I'd rather have too many calories in them than not enough. If it's the best stored in the body, if that's all they're going to do is sit down, plop their hind end in one place and chew on the super chewed candy bar you put in there with all the extra nutrients, well that's better than running around in circles scratching their hind end and sucking on tired old maple leaves that hit the ground that are, you know, three months old. So if there's common sense, everything should be very, very user friendly in the children's kit. So simple that there's very little of any thought process involved. Is it okay to have these drills just in case, you know, just like saying at a spur moment we get up and get out and go to a specific place? Well, actually we've done that before I mean we've done that at different times sometimes you may not even get a chance to it to be a training exercise It can be the it can be a real event Alpha you guys are basically that's what this this multi-day exercise is isn't it pick it up carry it somewhere drop it down make it work That's correct, and we'll just keep elaborating on that every day Sound good George Yes mark. I got one more question you heard about the US Marines down in San Bernardino County, have you? Well, we've heard you okay, what have you got there? Well, the thing is I like to know who's the sheriff of that County? Hmm Well, that's something that you see they've probed before now that we've got this globalist agenda plugged in with the heartland homeland security They're trying to see how far they can stretch that The Marines on the border or the Army right down on the border would not be bad because right now they've given us, if we believe all the BS that they've thrown out there, and I believe it'll be the Mossad and elements of the New World, you know, the globalist agenda inside our government pushing the next disaster. But if we really, really, really were worried about this country and a terrorist attack, nobody would be squeaking across the border. The border would not be open, it would be closed. You wouldn't be even driving down there to visit. Which really, in reality, with the supposed crime threat, which I think the crime threat is quite real, is not supposed, but with the big thing about the drug lords and, oh, it's all our fault that they're getting what they're getting down there now. I love they're trying to juxtaposition this. That tells me the kosher mafia's involved, because they always do the same thing. Whatever criminal activity they're involved in, they throw at somebody else. Well, now the Mexicans are having all their problems, and it's all America's fault. And it's like, okay, fine, let's shut the border off then, and let's stop this problem now. Now the Marines down there on the border would be good, provided they have very limited maneuverability, because I will remind everyone, back in the 90s they deployed the Marines for whatever reason. They had Marine snipers down on the border in Texas. And during this action, why or how they approved this, I do not know, they gave them orders to shoot to kill. And what they did is they sniped and killed, it was a 14 year old boy who was a high school kid. He would get out of school, he had his goat herd, he would move the goat herd from one field to the next. He wasn't crossing the border with the US, he was in the United States. And a set of Marines sniped and killed this boy. Now, what happened is they came out and they drug their hind end. They stood around and waited. There was no, even though there was a standard operating procedure for a medivac response, they dragged their hind end and they didn't do jack and went at it. When, of course, they were done with this and the kid was killed, then they found out, hey, there wasn't any justification for this action. They packed the Marines up and ran their hind end back up to their camp. where they came from as quickly as they could and protected them, made them disappear. Now that we don't need unless we have somebody where we see like, you know, here's my problem. Same scenario on the border with the Marines. You got a bunch of these these dopers that are with the Mexican government coming across with Humvees that we provided. Oh, they get on the other side of the border. I would expect those Marines to plug and kill every one of them. Because they have no business being here and you don't give them any chance to escape back across the border with a Ma Deuce and a van full of dope That's how things should be done But shooting an American goiter in on this side of the border ain't slowing anything down or protecting anything other than creating all it's doing is creating chaos and That's the difference. You're gonna have to be on a very specific leash. I believe that here's here's the attitude about the border too that I would plug in guys We have border patrol The Border Patrol are the trained professionals whose mission it is to protect the United States from incursions by foreigners into the United States proper. The Border Patrol should be given a consignment. In other words, they should work as team leader pathfinders and if Marines or Army are on the ground, they don't act without the guidelines and the guidance of that Border Patrolman. Why? Well, because the Army does a great job of killing people and so does the Marine Corps. It's their job. But in this case, they're supposed to be working with a very specific mission. The man who does that job every day, the border guard, should be the pathfinder team leader because he will have the wherewithal to make the proper decision in that working environment. Now, I just settled the whole problem for you right there about how it should be, but you and I, and everybody listening knows that's not the case. So we're going to see a whole bunch of other problems down on the border. The Marines being haphazardly deployed right now, or the way they're doing this is purely for the sake of maintaining massive confusion. They don't serve any proper purpose. They're not getting the job done. I won't give them a pat on the head because the goofs in general that are in command know that this is designed to create massive confusion, heartburn amongst the population. It's not going to make the bad guys down south fear what's going on. It's designed to terrorize the American people. And so that's where this needs to be changed real quick. Now, as far as military on the road in general, we don't need them. We're over-cocked as it is. In fact, the revenuers are too busy wasting too much of our money and far too much of our time. And to have another guy out there with a uniform doing the same thing, eh, wrong. Go ahead, George, we've got to let you go. We've got other callers, too. Go ahead. from Jack McWham, you heard like educate the sheriff, but what about the constables and the coroners? I know I'm in Texas Constitution, we have sheriffs and constables. They're both elected. What about coroners? Most states do and the county coroner is pretty knowledgeable too. The county coroner is the only person, kind of like in Star Trek with a ship. The county coroner is the only person who can actually take the sheriff out of his job and most people don't know this. because he can deem that the sheriff is unfit to hold his post. And that's funny because we've always had that check and balance in place going all the way back to the militia and going through the life of the existing life of this country with regard to the history of the sheriff's post in the respective counties or in the parishes across the United States. There's little variations in how they're managed but not much. Been pretty consistent for the whole of the country. We gotta let you go George because we got other callers stacked up. I think George has gone. I'll tell you what, now Alfie and Mike, we have maybe another, do we have any callers with any more questions? Callers jump in there please. Who do we have? You got Tom? Go ahead Tom. Mark. Oh yeah, one thing that George might be able to get is called emergency childbirth. The department copied this off the internet. The Reverend's Guide for Students of the Medical Self-Help Training Course, lesson number 11, and it's called emergency childbirth. Very good and again go ahead and give that information out one more time everybody has slow it down and give it out so everyone can hear it grab your pen and paper people They called emergency childbirth. What was the pay? What was the webpager that was located? Well, they'll have to do a search then so as long as they've got the basic information Army manuals and put for the childbirth but appreciate the help for medical training a bunch of different Tom, stay right where you are. I'll tell you what we're going to do. We're going to go to break. This is the Intel report. We'll be back in about three minutes. We got Mike, we got Alfie, and we got Tom from Michigan here right now. We'll call in. 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The FNFL is the leading cause of big holes in bad guys. It's what you need to stop them. Call 360-906-8369 or go to gunpartsguy.com. Remember, if you don't, you won't stop me. And ladies and gentlemen, we are back. This is Intel Report, and that was Carl Klang right there. Tom, you had one more thing. Go ahead, jump in there, please. Yeah, it's called What to Do if a Nuclear Disaster is Imminent. And you can go to K, the numeral for you. You can copy that off 10 pages, and it gives you different nuclear issues and gives you all shelters and stuff. Perfect. Well, again. Go ahead. Okay. Okay. Very good. Appreciate that. I'll let you guys go. I just thought maybe you know they should come up and it's gonna get pretty frosty next few months. Thank you, Tom. And we have another caller. Are we all set? We have one more caller, I think. Caller jump in there. Hi, it's Cordie. Hey, Cordie. Oh, you got... Oh, no, it's the gang of three. Quick, run! Actually, Cordie... all the update on what's going on on my website and let Alfie know that everybody who's listening that my site is locked down. Now if you want to access the information except for like news articles you're going to have to register as a member. And this is for security purposes because we've been getting word that a lot of Patriot and militia websites are being locked out and shut down. So we've done that, but for the meetup there is still a banner on the front page and underneath it it says registered members click here, non-registered members click here. And it will take two different ways. And that way a PDF will download and give them all the information for Alpis Meetup. Perfect and again, I record now Courtney don't go anywhere real quick Ed needs to talk to you for a minute to to make sure you know what's going on here only because we're working on things here in the station and Well, I'd rather not do this on the air, but dad touched the computer again in the booth and that went by So that's our Skype machine. So I'll let you know beforehand in the chatroom Whether or not we got it back up or not, but we may or may not be up live for your show tonight little bit I gotta finish up around here okay well mark don't do that I didn't do anything it's that here and stared at me and blinked this machine just blinked at me but we have a whole pile of machines are just dropped off by my middle son he's still in the house right now and so maybe you between everything we could deal with will deal with the problem we hopefully everything squared away before we bring you up tonight how's that sound oh it'll be fine I have a two-by-four and a hammer right here to deal with this machine too yeah all right guys I'm gonna let you three Have your time and I'll be listening so you all take care. Althea, holler at me tomorrow for any updates or anything. I'll do that. Alright y'all, God bless now. Bye bye. See ya, girl. Now I'll tell you what, we have one more caller. Uh oh, we got another caller. Caller, jump in there please. We got one more caller in the wings. We have Mike who's been here. He's from Louisiana. What call is that caller? We still have another caller. I'm sorry, we're trying to figure this out. We still have one more caller. Not only do we have somebody just listening though. Yeah, you never know anyway I'll tell you what guys jump in there because we got to get this up and on the air go ahead Let everybody know about the meat because you're talking to two listening to two of the people right here We're going to be the trainers for this up-and-coming exercise. Go ahead Go Mike. I've been talking for an hour already No, that's, I was just going to say, just some more information. I wanted to pass on to George who was talking about childbirth. I'd look around maybe your community college, your local community college there, see if they offer an EMT course. They've got pretty up-to-date information about first aid, extrication, motor vehicles, and there's also a section they teach about anatomy and physiology and emergency childbirth. So that'd be a place to go. It wouldn't cost you very much. They'll give you the book, you do the study, and you'll be able to run through all the drills on that. The other thing is, obviously, John's up here, and we're talking about our pre-inauguration super seminar coming up between the 8th and the 11th of January in Durant, Oklahoma. The information, as they said before, is go to Cordy's website. Also, you can get ahold of John at Patriot41 at Hotmail.com. Also, recommend that some of the things that you might want to consider having is some irrigation boots or some over boots for your combat boots, something like that. Bring a state flag. There are some fences there. Bring a pole where we can hook it onto there. Maybe we can have a good representation of a cross section of the different states that are represented. You need to have a protective mask. You need to have a ball. You need to have your Swiss seat rope. 15-16 foot of one half inch twisted nylon rope. You need to have ear and eye protection. Also, you might, there should be a lot of information available if you can bring a flash drive or some blank CDs. Obviously you're going to need your cold weather gear. How cold is it right there now, John? Well, we were 70 yesterday and still today, so we could see any from sunny and warm up to see what happens. Right and also a couple other things I'd recommend it if anybody's coming down there there might be some things for sale We might have some small books some carabiners or anything like that So if you might want to consider bringing $20 in some small bills ones and five. I ain't no money changer and The other thing that you're going to need to have what I'd recommend is to having two small three by five inch spiral notebooks We're going to be supplying binders like we did up in Flagstaff. We have 20 of them. The people that have pre-registered, they get first dibs on them and then anybody else that shows up. Anybody that was at the previous ones in Oklahoma or in the Flagstaff training. I know there's a number of people that are planning on attending this. I'd highly recommend I require you to bring your binder that you had. in the Flagstaff one and the one from the notes that you took in Oklahoma, you need to bring that information so we can stretch out these binders a little bit more. And that's about it, A-John. How many people have you gotten contact from the plan on showing up or something? Well, I'm guessing right now, yet, I've got quite a few more emails in the last few days, and it looks like we're getting over 20. Again, it's going to be one of those wait and see things. We can't seem to get everybody to respond and say yes or no. We're going to have to play it by ear, but we could have anywhere from five to 50 at this point. Obviously, you need to have a good outlook. You need to come there and be prepared to pay attention. You have to have a thirst for the knowledge. Depending on the amount of people, we might be just running it. There's one big group, but if it's 50 people that show up, there's good possibility that we might break it down into smaller groups where we'll be doing commo in one section, in medical in another, and then we'll switch them around. Obviously, we're not going to take 50 people out to the range, and while three or four people are shooting, you have 45 people standing around. We're not going to waste the time. This is going to be from very early, most likely before the sun rises in the morning, and chances are we're going to be going until 9 or 10 o'clock at night. You're going to have to bring your thinking cap, good outlook, positive attitude. The main thing is what we're trying to do here is train the trainers obviously, but what we're trying to do is to get people together that know each other. You never know. You might have somebody that lives just a couple of miles away from you that you're not aware of. That was one thing that we discovered up here when we were up in Flagstaff. There were some people that lived in a relatively close together and they didn't know each other. That's another benefit of being able to come there. We're going to show you how to do the training. We're going to show you, and I understand that sometimes it's real boring about the paperwork and the binders and collecting the information. But if we ever plan on reduplicating this over, it helps. to move the information along quicker. It's more consistent. It eliminates the need for the ad lib. It eliminates the there I was stories and all that. And then we can give out a lot more information in the fixed amount of time. There's going to be quite a bit of information. Some people can say, well, you know, we're trying to give it too much information and we're going to just confuse the people. But what we're going to have to do is we're going to hit this hard. and there's going to be an hour or two block of the instruction is going to be over and over and over and over again and it's going to be building none of this is going to be just the same old boring stuff that we did in Oklahoma or in Flagstaff it's going to be building yes I'll admit some of the stuff is going to be redundant for the people that have been to one of those two training sessions uh... part of it is going to be for the new people to get up and even if it's a duplicate whether it's the map for the night vision or something else then it's still going to be important because the repetition is going to help reinforce that information and i agree mike uh... we're we're going to try not to cover everything that we've got the other needs that i work into the training that we're going to do uh... we're going to have to uh... some of this over and over again because when you do leave i want you ready to be a trainer and the only way we're going to accomplish that is by repetition uh... a lot of the that and uh... each day that they're going to get more and more involved as we go so if you can pick up the pieces as you go and build on it by the time you leave the fourth day you're going to have all the knowledge that you need to go ahead and be part of the trainers so uh... and uh... you know that might came you know the idea might came up with that having the buying And believe me, when this binder's finished for this meet, I'm going to tell you there's a lot of information in there, and it's going to give you some outlines so that you can do some of this training when you leave. And I think that's one of the best things that Mike came up with so far. It's really to be able to go home with so that you can do this too. Especially when you take notes, you're only going to get 25% or 50% of the information, and you're going to be sitting there scribbling as fast as you can and then when you get home you can't even read your own notes. But this way where all the information is given to you or the site where you can access the information then you can pay more specific attention to the class that's going on and then it alleviates the The stressfulness of trying to make sure that you've got all the things and you're not whispering to your person next door to you and going, well, what did he say? Or having to go ask questions afterwards. You are going to have all of the information that you need, or at least the website where you can download and print out that information and add that to the binder. Yeah, one thing Mike brought up, I have huge information on the computer here. uh... there's a lot of information that you can get here uh... download one to a flash drive or bring some blank cds so that you can go ahead and get that information in the evening after we shut down for the night i'm not going to go through that fifteen times why we're here but more will definitely take an opportunity one of the evening for you to sit down look at the information see what you need uh... see what you want out of that information and we can get out of cd for you so uh... that's another thing too so we've got uh... all i can remember what that that just we've been packet passes on a know how many hundreds of military manuals on it uh... that's available for sale were making copies of that and and uh... mike's made his copy now we've got that available here so that you can get a copy of that also so that just another plus tremendous amount all earlier market mentioned the uh... acquiring yourself a ranger handbook if you go to arizona militia dot com and you can get a brand new two thousand six the ranger handbook you can either a printed off on full-size paper printed off on the smaller pocket five format or you can just laminate the pages that you need and put those in the ziplock bag and carry those in your pocket. But that's one way and I'm going to make an attempt, no guarantees. I do have a source for some Ranger handbooks, so I might be able to get those there. Once again, you might want to bring some of Mark's training militia books and things like that too. If you could please bring about $20 or so and some small bills, ones and fives. So then these things would be available and I know that the last time somebody brought down a whole bunch of volt meters and some other things there might be some carabiners there at a very reasonable price and everything for the knotting class and everything like that. So it would be definitely worth your while and it's not that we're sitting here trying to turn this into some you know begathon or a come by buy stuff type of deal but uh... if we have this do this stuff you know we're not given it away for free and it's not there's no obligation here you don't want to know why i mean i'm not forcing anybody to do anything show up for the training that's the problem if you've got a few extra bucks and you want to pick up some of the gear that's here on you know like he said ralph brought up some very uh... cheap digital uh... volt meters that we can show you how to use in uh... and i'm sure we're going to go in the hole again hopefully with the fifty dollar charges time making at least trying to cover the cost of the they're going to be provided with to take home with yet but we're going to waste a but my diabetes stop bandages that's going to be wasted that we're going to be using over and over again why we're here for training so all we're trying to do is recoup the car you're not uh... you're not paying mike to do the training and to come and learn money on this deal and I really want to stress that not a money making adventure, I'll tell you that. Now most important here too guys is with a process that's involved remember that you're looking at food you're looking at all the other All the other classes everything plugged in Cold weather gear obviously is a critical item most important is attitude when you do show up And I think that's that's critical first of all we're not going to ridicule people who ask questions Are we in fact the purpose behind this class is so that you can get up close and ask questions correct? Oh, that's great some guys individually that were paired and got them set up so that they could do some of this gear. My range instructor spent some time with some visual impaired guys and got them on the range. This is about teaching and learning. It's not about anything more than that. Good question. And I'll bring that up again. There are not any stupid questions. There's a lot of people out there that are trying to come on board. They're new to a lot of this and they're behind on some of this. Those questions are just as valid as anybody else's. So again, for anybody out there, do not be afraid or fearful of the idea that you show up here, I don't know what's going on. The training events are so that you will know what's going on. You've got to be there. You've got to gain the practical experience. And again, that way you can also share it with others. And I think that is the mindset that has to be brought to this. We're all students constantly. No matter who the individual is, when you come into a class, you're to be attentive, you pay attention. If you do have a question, ask it. Don't hold it in. There's a reason. Your question might be on everybody else's mind. And or at least it's something that maybe some people didn't even think about. And oh my goodness, you know you're right, I didn't plug that in. And so what happens is everybody gains from the experience of many thinking people in one place. But when you are a student, it is your job to pay attention to the instructor. That is another thing we ask. And it's something that's critical. No matter who the person is, you are obligated to be disciplined enough to stay focused and participate. And that is critical. That's going to be the theme for this exercise, correct guys? Absolutely, this may very well be the last one for a while. We don't know what the future holds. So, for those people that have put it off and because it was too far or something, we've had one in Oklahoma, one here in Flagstaff, and now we're having the next one in Oklahoma, but nobody's... My crystal ball is broken. I gave my tarot cards away. I don't know what the future holds. So, if you want to get on this, you need to put aside your paranoia or whatever it is or anything like that that you're harboring in your mind, and you need to get your butt to Oklahoma in the 8th to the 11th of January. so I don't have to ridicule on the telephone to tell you people that you're a no-go. Amen. Yeah, that's another thing. I'm not worried, if anybody should be worried about being concerned with what we're doing, I should be the one. It's all on my back anyway. So you've got to step up. It's time to step up, get off the fence, and keep going. If you're worried about what we're going to do to you, The Once this date is passed, we are going to be planning other activities, but we're going to remind everybody that progressively take advantage of every moment that you can to get additional training accomplished within your own units, not just with these events. When you go back from this event and you have the workbooks and you have the basic skills laid down, the idea is to immediately schedule a date for your home units, get your people together, reproduce what needs to be reproduced, make sure that there are duplicates. Somebody better be putting this information on disk back at the other end if you can so you have it electronically filed and you can store it in other alternate locations with your training officer and with your command and control personnel or at least again backups to backups to backups that way when the time comes comes and you're trying to develop force multiplication which is what we're doing by the way right now with this then you are going to be able to expand a hundred fold you're going to be able to cycle 10, 15 people through at a time 20 people through a class at a time as part of attack lane part of a series of classes and you will be bringing people that much quicker into the fold. That is another consideration. I've had a lot of complaints from people who are saying we've got so many people coming into our militia unit and I have repeated time and again I told you so and it should not be a surprise so you had best be ready for this mission. Now here's a chance, and this is why I'm saying, collect between all your people. If you're in Pennsylvania, if you're in West Virginia, and you've got a group of people or several units that are working together, Virginia should be doing the same thing right now. It's going to be a ways to go from Virginia. I understand that. Guess what? Organize, point your people together, put your people together, point your representatives in one direction, shoot them out there, get them to where they need to be in Oklahoma, and then get them back home. Again, organization, that's the critical thing here. Be focused for this short window, this short period of time. When they all get back home, they can tell everybody else about what they missed. Because that's the thing I've heard from all the people who have participated. Everybody's like, man, these other people that didn't make it, they missed an experience. Now, if you're in close proximity, you got people coming all the way from Utah, and we got people coming from the northwest, the northeast, the plain states, the Midwest. Guys, if you're within one state's distance of the guys that are on the phone right now of Elfie's location, there isn't any excuse for not being able to make it. It's that simple. This is a time that you need to pair off to make the event, you know, to become, you know, to participate in the operation. Now here's another question. If the person can't be there for the full five days or for the set up day because of scheduling, just simply as they can only acquire so much time off, they're still going to be able to participate, yes? Yeah, I've got some people already that said they might not be able to make it to the weekend. Is that okay? And I said it's fine. This This is the opportunity and it's presented. You're going to have to make the effort to get here. If you can get here for one day, two days, three days, whatever, and book at least. Show up, just a book if you just show up and you want the damn manual. This is a limited opportunity. I'm not going to be able to do this again. We're going to make every attempt to make an effort at it, but these aren't cost effective. With the economy and the way it is, things are going to get rough for everybody, including and Mike and all the rest of the guys that have to do the training. So opportunity, I'm a trainer, that's what this is all about. The main thing is, again, it's training the trainers. We are planting the seeds. We don't have Our way is not the, it's not set in concrete as this is the only way it can be done. We can give you the general outline, the task, the conditions, the standards. And if you see or think of a different way, the more creative, then so much, so much better. But each one of these training things we learned, Alfie and I, this is also a It's a learning experience for us because as each one progresses, we build on the previous ones. We have a foundation, then a layer of bricks, and another layer of that, and then another layer on top of that. Each one builds on the previous one. That's why I say none of these are going to be duplicates. Yes, some of it is going to be redundant. or it's going to be presenting the same information, but it's not going to be exactly the same as the previous one, like the first medical classes that we had in Oklahoma back in April. They aren't going to be anything like the medical classes that are going to be happening in January in Oklahoma or the one that we had up in Flagstaff. Each one is different. 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