December 2, 2008
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Mark Koernke discussed an alleged ATF raid in Bowling Green, Kentucky that callers investigated and found to be potentially fabricated or heavily redacted from public records. The show covered concerns about biological and nuclear threats, analyzed an MSNBC special on ATF operations that appeared incomplete online, discussed gun purchases and ammunition shortages amid Obama's election, reviewed rifle production delays at American manufacturers, and provided detailed advice on acquiring Dragunov rifles and magazines as barter items. The final segment addressed NBC (nuclear, biological, chemical) defense systems for infants and families, with Koernke noting this was a priority project in development.
- atf
- bowling green kentucky
- biological attack
- nuclear threat
- gun control
- ammunition shortage
- dragunov rifle
- m1a
- m14
- nbc defense
- gas masks
- preparedness
- second amendment
- obama
- federal agents
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Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press. And you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God-given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As Iooke vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? Home? perhaps in your neighborhood you're listening on an AM or FM rebroadcaster. Again, the intelligence report, Liberty Tree Radio. I'm not certain, but I'll tell you what. Father, hey, uh, 10th of December? It's just about five minutes past five on the eastern seaboard there. If you're over there in California, you know, you still got a couple hours on that day shift. If you've got the day shift. Let me see what they used to do. They used to build Camaros in California, didn't they? Don't do that anymore. Or rather, not like don't, but they do not build California anymore or firebirds. I'm not sure if they built anything in California. Yeah, I know, but you know, bad governors and bad law, bad governors that signed bad law into law. Oh, hey you guys, it's second of December. I'm Donald Betcher. And I'm Mark Herkey. And this is the Intelligence Report. I'll tell you what. You know what you got to do with the right, I'm sorry Mark, but we need to touch this, it's Communications Tuesday and we'll have some other people up next Tuesday I'm working on, but I have to get you guys, I want to tell you about the how to find sheets. And if you're not doing that, you're not making the nation wiser. And you know, what is that? It's knowledge of strength, isn't it? Make the nation more aware of what's going on. You're helping to make the nation stronger because those people are going to do something about it, aren't they Mark? Well, it's interesting that we have so many people waking up we can pass the information out which of what we've been doing anywhere we can Sometimes people are listening other times. They don't oh well ignore the ones that don't concentrate on the thinking people that do There's been a lot of work to do out there. We a lot of people There's millions to make contact with and besides we've got to do it before 2013 man. You wonder why done Well, because CNN tells us that by biological terror attack likely by the year 2013, panelists... Oh, it's not nuclear. Oh, but of course NBC we got to remember that you know people we bring it up NBC attacks, you know nuclear biological and chemical option here It's on our as posted this on our LTR website. So if you down to the scroll down to the news section there What's interesting is? I'll read this real quick part of it anyway, but the consequences of a biological attack are almost beyond comprehension It would be 9-11 almost 10 or 100 in terms of the number of people who would be killed, former Senator Bob Graham said, he cited the flu virus that killed millions of people. Hey, isn't this all old news for the Patriot Movement, first of all? This is where we've been telling you, what's that stuff we've been talking about here for every year we've ever been up on the areas? Let's see. NBC Nuclear Biological and Chemical Defense is critical. Why? Well, because government ain't gonna offer you any. Yeah. Here's how it's gonna work. I have mine. And you don't. And we are here to defend the plants where we build them. Up here in northern Michigan, Mark. The government contracted a small company here to build 300,000 gas masks. Okay, so this is much worse, but it's interesting. I'm not going to go through all of it. It's just basically, this is all we told you so. Hey look, we told you so. Hey look, we told you so. Hey look, we told you so. And wait a minute, we told you so. Oh, you know, before we, I want to rub one of those in, Mark. I just want to, you know, like putting the cigarette in the palm of Ted Turner's hand and just grinding it up. Oh, I didn't say that, didn't I? That was a Freudian slip. Did you see Ted Turner over the weekend? I think he was on this week in Washington. Not Face the Nation. Face the Nation comes on later, I believe. But this week in Washington, Ted Turner was on. He had a whole lot to say about nothing. Give me just a second. I need to strangle the dog. Well, I'll tell you what what's funny about this is this is communist news network by the way this story came from that Don's bringing up, you know, good old Ted the lizard Turner Turner Remember when they had him at the UN he had his own little place off the side little lizard skin creature that he is and All wrinkly and and he's not a Yoda by the way more like lizard just one of the lizard people Anyway, interestingly enough in this article one of the things that it does touch on and oh and don't forget We still have nuclear threat because other countries are developing nuclear weapons and because some existing nuclear powers are expanding their arsenals. What? Are they putting them on the arms bizarre market? Is there something we missed here? Probably not. But again, this is true. Let's write it this way. The Commission warned that there is also a nuclear threat from Israel. Well, because Israel is developing more nuclear weapons and become, because some of their existing nuclear weapons are going to be available for the Mossad to use against the American people. That's just reinterpreting into proper American ease. Yeah, public consumption. I just changed one paragraph here, but that's basically just remember Israelis plan on bombing America. The Israelis plan on bombing America. And by the way, the Israelis utilizing a bunch of other stooges that are probably the Chinese combined with them plan on nuking America. There you go. If long as you understand that, you're doing just fine. But again, this was Ted Turner's news service that put this out, and it's nothing more than the government pap, whatever their latest agenda that they're pushing, or more importantly, the CFR and UN agenda, because what you're going to see is a barrel roll twist on this. And again, he was talking this weekend too, wasn't he? And in fact, he wasn't on CNN. other networks talking. I'm almost, I've paraphrased it ever so slightly, but you know, it's like the needle and the camel and all of that, isn't it? You're right. The one thing he did say that, you know, I watched because, well, it's Ted Turner. You know, and when Ted Turner opens his mouth, doo-doo comes out. You know, you can put any word you want there, but I was just waiting for that particular, you know, verb diarrhea from Ted Turner. If I'm disgusting somebody, I'll apologize for that. But you know what, let me turn back one page in my notes here and I will tell you directly that Ted Turner, he started talking about Russia. And this was old Russia, don't you know? And he was talking about the KGB, Mark. And we could go back, we could go right back to the Cheka and the NKVD, turn to the KGB, now the FSB, but he in particular, Ted Turner. was talking about the KGB and you know they were so maligned when they were doing and I think my I find my notes hard to read here or at least this phrase hard to get out Mark I can read my notes Ted Turner said that the KGB was doing an honorable job that was necessary 50 or 100 million or 120 million bodies piled up by the via the strong arm network of the KGB, FSB. Oh, they don't do that anymore, do they? Or they don't tell. There's not a Solzhenitsyn in there right now to say, well, he got arrested. We never heard from him again. Or he got arrested, and now his heart's over there in some way. Oh, that's China. But this was the other Communist. But again, an honorable job that was necessary. It was necessary for the Russians to kill about a third over about 40 to 45 years. It was necessary, according to Ted Turner. They were doing an on Ted Turner, you guys. You know, we've said it before, and Ted's one of those guys that wishes that 80% of the world was gone. Not the world, 80% of humanity walking on this earth. If Ted Turner had his way, he'd pay the United Nations X amount of dollars, and oh, wait a minute, he did, didn't he? If Ted Turner had his way, he would be instrumental in reducing the population of the world to about 20% of its current level. That's where he wants it to go, but you know what Ted, why don't you step into the discombobulator first. We'll spread your atoms out across the galaxy, never to be heard from again, and Earth will weigh that much less because you aren't here. Ted, I'll be quiet now because I could just... You don't know where I want to go with this one. Well, I'll tell you what we're going to do. We're going to go to break right now. This is the Intel Report. 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If you kind of enjoy rock and roll or you know rock and roll is kind of like almost a dead phraseology isn't it but if you enjoy that kind of music maybe your your son or your grandson or your granddaughter does give them some for Christmas. Pokerface.com is the avenue to that. a This was the alleged incident that happened in Bowling Green, Kentucky. I wrote down all the names of the characters that were mentioned. The suspect's name was a 43-year-old black man named Russell Sublett. They had Kentucky state police officers names that were chasing them were Chris Spradlin and Jonathan McChezny. They even mentioned the street name in Bowling Green, Kentucky. They were approaching Carl Jordan Road. So whether or not that street even exists. Then they talked to the Batfaggot they had. That was on the scene. His name was David S. Hayes. He was with the Special Agent, or Louisville Field Division ATF. Then they also talked to an ATF Special Agent. They pronounced it Carl Stenkovic. They said there were 120 agents on the scene. They also had a Batfaggot commentating. They didn't say that he was on the scene. His name is Mark Chait, C-H-A-I-T, and he was listed as Special Agent, Deputy Assistant Director, Field Operations APF. And they also had a captain of the Kentucky State Police they were talking to named Jeff Mayberry. He was the captain over the Kentucky State Police officers, Chris Bradlin and Jonathan McCheveny. What's interesting about this is everybody that's been you know either looking at it checking it out or whatever And once a high note everybody in the chat room by the way there, too What's fascinating is everybody who's down from that neck of the woods? Nobody remembers this incident. There's nobody like saying wow that just happened in the news It's not jumping out anyone and considering it was a four-day affair and Basically you had a military siege on the site There's no follow-up. There's nothing where you can go. Wow. Yeah, I remember that. Let me give me just a second Let me pull this out of the files So I'd be really curious about this about how old it is in other words Was this an ancient piece? It was canned and generated by the bat faggots and again, if so, what would the purpose be? Well, I think part of it which is the whole gist of this this angle was the smiley face bat faggot Look what they're doing to you. I mean for you And that's the feeling I get again as expected. It's one of the many precursors to they're getting ready to do something because you got to put the smiley face, you know the it's like V not V for Vendetta, but the old V television series. Yeah with the invaders remember the V critters and all the posters and they're here to help and they know the smiley faced you know Imperial stormtrooper basically with his hand out smiling and all the other warm fuzzy stuff with the V characters and that's exactly what you're looking at here so this is preparation for whatever else they're doing and they're aiming towards a certain population they're aiming towards the people who think they're well to do the people with the McMansions They're not really wealthy. They look really like they're trying to be wealthy. They're actually the middle class people who get stomped, you know, have the guts stomped on them first. They're the people that have the really big houses like two and a half, three stories, two and a half, because sometimes the basement empties out the back. And you know, the problem is this. The front lawn is done, but the back lawn is still mud and dirt because they couldn't afford the, after they bought the house, they couldn't afford the sod for the backyard. It has a beautiful outer siding and it does have three floors to include the second floor having a double wide sliding glass door that empties out on the second floor to oblivion because they couldn't afford the deck that goes in the back of the house. Have you seen some of these? I have. We've got them all around here. And... It works in progress. Yeah, it works in progress. Problem is they sit like that for three years, two years, ten years, seven years, twelve years, depends on when they're built. And it's the McMangins. They're trying to feel like, you know, again, beyond their means. They're trying to feel good about it, but the problem is that other than living room furniture, if you go in to do work in these houses, you either have little of no furniture upstairs or there are cardboard boxes for half of what they use in the bedrooms, and they can barely afford the mattress and box springs that's on the floor and not on a frame. Now I'm describing what I've seen over and over and over again Wally put on airs by the way too about how they're so much better than everybody else Well, the problem with that is this is gonna come back to bite him in the butt. Okay with what I see they're trying to placate them for the moment and Then they will be the first that if they do have anything of value Well, that's where you want to go if you're the bad guys to where the booty is Poor people don't have enough booty, do they Andrew? I don't think they got enough to really make it worthwhile. Well the other thing is the angle is that the communists historically try to put the revolution on the back of the poor folks and tell them they're going to grab them by the bootstraps and elevate them. They're going to improve their lives. Well what about the 10 or 12 or 14 million starving farmers in Russia at the end of the revolution and into the next 15 and 20 years? It was mentioned the other day that you can be a farmer here in America and own millions of dollars worth of land. Millions of dollars. You could be a millionaire and have $17,000 income after you pay the taxes on that land and feed the tractor and feed the cows and the chickens and your family. Yeah, I'm a millionaire, but I made $17,000 last year. That's the plight of the American farmer. Well, the communists didn't even look at that. They just looked at the land and killed them on the spot. The ones that ran into the woods, they burned down the woods, and it didn't just happen in one place. Oh, no. This was all over. So again, for those who think there's some kind of hiding, you're better off plugging the commissars as soon as they open their chubby little faces and their rubbery little mouths. because they plan on murdering, well, actually they've already told us they'd like to kill 80% of the population. Andrew, anything else there that in particular jumped out in... There's just that we have four names here that the people down in that area, down in those... of the area, if somebody doesn't know somebody, they know somebody who does. So we have four names that are particular to that area. And like if nobody can come across any of those names, then that's a good chance of the fabricated event. Right. And even the characters themselves are like Ogilby from 1984, Sergeant Ogilby, that hero of the Malabar Front. Oh, Ogilby? Who the hell is he? Oh, don't worry. We'll make up a background for him. And that's exactly what we're seeing with a lot of this stuff. We've seen some of this generated in the past. I think they're going to become even more and more overt with this in the future. It's going to continue. So pay attention. This will be very fascinating to see how it develops and what they do with it. Otherwise, what about anything else interesting or unique down in your neck of the woods there in Ohio? Oh, just in regards to what you were saying about they used to make chimeras in California, they used to make them here too. Back in the 80's. Yeah, that's right. You can make them at the Norwood plant. 8.0 that ship over two decades ago now. That plant's already in China making something else for the Chinese, not for America. No doubt about that. Well, thank you Andrew. Appreciate this. Okay, thanks a lot. Everybody else pay attention and we've got ammunition for everyone now. Hopefully, again in the chat room. We can follow up now with the resources that we have and Andrew, I appreciate the assistance there. and if we do get a date, time and place, I'd like you to come up on the air and report it guys. Whoever gets it first, I don't care. But if we get a date, time and place in this, I'd like to hear more. A four day siege with all kinds of bat faggots on the ground and all kinds of, you know, there was all kinds of federal agents, all kinds of state police and all kinds of sheriff's deputies is memorable. It'd have to be pretty, pretty heavily contained and I cannot see that happening. I mean, something like that happens in an area especially where there's shots fired and there's all kinds of things that were fired up and all kinds of other damage and destruction. It's not going to disappear in a vacuum. Even if they try to keep it covered, Mark, as I mentioned the other day, at least in three days you'll have a local TV news there with the satellite feed and all of that. At the outmost, three days. Think about it. So this is a unique situation, an interesting development. It's a flag for visions of things to come, if everything goes well. As far as for us being able to ID and understand what the next step is we're going to try and take. Sounds like we might have another caller. Who do we have? Yeah, Spike in Indiana. Why? Spike, jump in. You had told everybody to go call MSNBC and try and get some report on that specific incident. I did try to call MSNBC this afternoon and they put me through to Al Roker's desk and I got nothing. Which didn't surprise me. I got his, so I hung up and since he gave me his assistant number in the voicemail I called her and I got no answer there either. The strange thing about this is you cannot find them anywhere. If you go to MSNBC, there's a little video, I'll show you the whole video at one time. Well, then that makes sense that this is a last minute. See, now, this is what I said before about this, too, that this tells me this was a desperation slash damage control piece. Yeah, and if it's... Go ahead. Well, if it's been out for... First of all, it wouldn't be in subcomponents. It would be a block... You know, it was generated as a single block article slash program. So all three of these were tied in together. They were bonded together. I think what this is, this was a damage control piece to placate and also terrorize. Okay, because what they were going to do, there's supposed to be some accompaniment pieces that I don't think fell into place or they dropped the ball in because they couldn't either move fast enough or we've already tagged them. I mean, one thing is remember is that they realize a lot of people are listening to what we're saying right now and it goes through the community, it goes through many different communities. They threw this together. It's a hodgepodge. It was a last-minute. It was an oh my goodness thing because look at all the guns are being sold. We got to slow this down. So they needed to do a terrorize, terrorize the population piece. And that part I think didn't get generated the way it was supposed to. The other part was well if they do one of these bat faggot raids to try and terrorize people, you know, throw something together, go out and attack somebody. just to try and put things in check and the reason that they were attacked is because well the national gun check told everybody blah blah blah well my problem with that is then obviously they didn't buy weapons through the national gun check system right I mean Think about it. You know, it's like that it's an oxymoron thing. If right off the bat you're not going to get any weapons from the people who have the FFLs if you're not approved through the National Weapons Check, so there isn't going to be any reason to pester the person that was disapproved, right? Yeah, see this kind of a that's the problem when you have computers and you do all this other nonsense It's gonna be harder to fabricate and pull it out of there honey den So I think that's this here is is something we need to see if you can continue to pester them The assistant will probably answer some questions like hey, you know, what was this put together? I've been trying to look at the video and I see it in chunks and bits but I can't find the actual article as it was presented theatrically on television. That's the final theatrical release as they say. Everything else is a dress rehearsal, bits and pieces even when you're doing cutting room floor work. And the theatrical release is where you actually put it out before the people and an audience sees it. So you would think that the final product would be right there in your face and that they would be so proud of it too, but they're not. No, I went to YouTube and I Google for a little while an Al Roker. I typed in ATF special. I typed in armed in America, which is what the special was called. I went to YouTube and I typed in all that same stuff and you figure it's been out for well as of last Sunday, it's been out for a week. trace of it anywhere on the internet except for MSNBC's little video player that they have and you have to go to documentaries on the slide down menu and then it just gives you little clips. They show a minigun. Yeah we took this off the street. Some guy was trying to sell this and thousands of rounds of ammo and our gun painted it blue and decked it all out. We go out and shoot it. That was the ATF guy. You know I'm like so they just got this property and they took it out and shot it. Hey. That's again interesting the the twist of this thing is the everything and anything must be illegal no matter what it is now of course it isn't but the idea is Steve got everybody in a twisted knot with nobody knowing for sure what's going on and Everybody pointing at everybody else that way somebody's gonna pick up the 1-800 rat line and do that I think he has a machine single-shot shotgun Yeah, I saw it on television the bat faggot said it was fully automatic. You pull the trigger and it goes off one time, you know i've noticed in talking to people people that don't have firearms what's a little legal fire i tell them you know hey the second amendment doesn't say what kind of fire you can have how can they make a law you can have at the second amendment says that the right shall not be in for it all well it all the people and the brain fart mode it like today i'd i'd said that with i go you know uh... obama released his uh... came from the office of the president elect I said, you know that does not exist. And he's like, oh yeah, but they got to do that because they got to get ready. I'm like, no. I'll tell you what, we'll be back. We're bringing up the TV bowl. We're going to go to break. Guys, stay where you are. We'll be back in about three here on LTR. 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And we have the authority to reproduce all of the albums that are available. So Ed has the Masters here. And that's one of the ways that Robert Lloyd has supported Liberty Street Radio all along. The music we play that's Robert Lloyd's is all ours, all the Patriot movements. So it's really cool. And he's done some fantastic music. I understand he's changed locations again, but he's generating other music. We're going to have to do some stuff for some special projects here pretty soon. and understand that he's up to the task so we're gonna probably drag him into the studio again and start putting some notes together and have some fun. Great. So anyway, other things going on here with this. Now thanks for the follow-up by the way Spike. Yeah. And everybody's doing their part. This is what's cool. We've had a lot of friends that have been pitching in. What I would really be curious is kind of pin them down. Well, how did they come up with this thing? Or how did they organize it? If you can get the hold of the assistant. You know, just kind of bounce around. See, we throw a bunch of different questions. Boy, that was really interesting. It was assembled. But did that all happen at once? Or was this part of like a, is this part of the existing archives and files or something? Because it just didn't seem like it was quite copacetic. In other words, not quite synchronized. And something didn't seem right about the cinematography. You know, throw out a few things at them. See what they come back with. You know, it's what we had to work with. You know, I'd love to hear that blurted out. In fact, if you can record the conversation, better still. Well, actually, it's not my fault. The quality control was terrible. We didn't really do this. The feds made us do it. Don't kill me. Ah! Wait a minute. Relax, lady. If the video isn't even anywhere out there, I'm pretty sure they just made it up. It's a cobble job. If they thought it was a good thing and said it wasn't BS, then they would have it out there on the web for everybody to see and go, look, the UTS is so good. Right, at least they don't do that. There'd be a flavor-paced follow-up because once it's been generated, typically, again, other than the fact there will probably be a rerun through the later part of the year. It's one of those things where usually they at least offer it with their archiving mechanism in one form or another. That way they get the most bangs, bucks. Yeah, and they can, especially if it's a bad guy piece. So this tells me that they really, really, really grossly underestimated the kick response that they're getting from the population. the fact that they were told to do it. It didn't just happen. I mean, number one, they didn't just, oh, let's do a piece on the ATF. Just happens to coincide with the big window where everybody's grabbing arms and they're not stopping. People are continuing. They have raised the prices. We've had some complaints that, yeah, they're doubling prices on things. However, I will remind everybody, this is not 1995. This is not even 2005 or 2006, 2007. It's late 2008. Your money's been devalued four times over. cost of things overseas is going up because people don't want the wipe your butt FRNs if they can help it unless they get the right exchange rate and unlike Americans the foreigners all of them no matter what point of the compass you you spread to understand the devaluation of the currency even though Americans have been dumbed down to being ignorant about it. and the foreign people, they don't want to get stuck with the low end of the stick. They don't want to get so short the short change. They're going to make sure they get their money's worth. They understand and are good businessmen. So unfortunately for this cool stuff that's overseas is coming in or for the equipment that's being built here, you still got to buy the steel. You're still having to buy all the raw materials. A majority are not coming from the US. It's coming from other points of the compass. They have destroyed whole elements of our industry. I read off today, Don, it looks like on one of the emails when I say thanks to, I think it was Alfie that sent that, one of the companies, this is a good thing, they produce M1A's, actually they call it their M14. They don't even make any bones. They actually gave it the M14 nomenclature, but it's semi. They are 12 to 14 weeks behind on the M14. They are eight weeks behind on building M1 carbines and they're about eight to ten weeks behind on building M1 Garands and by the way, they're making new M1 Garands in 30-06, 308 or 270. No kidding. Yeah, which is kind of interesting and a little point there the 270 is actually the cartridge now most people are in look at your history on this guys the 270 was the actual cartridge they proposed for the grand when it was first built. They were going to change cartridges, but like the Italians with the 7.35 Carcano, they proposed this during the Depression, and unlike the Italians, America decided not to do it. Okay? They dropped the idea. But the Italians, they proceeded with the 7.35 Carcano, had it in production, got into the war heavily and decided that well they would phase the 7.35 and 6 with a 6 stick with a 6.5 instead where they were we never adopted the 270 we stuck with the 30-06 in its original configuration but changed the powder load So here's a company, just one of many, American made. 100% American parts are building everything here, but the problem is they can't build it fast enough and they've only got so many men, so many machines, and there's only so many machine hours that they can run each piece of equipment. Now I think that's sending a message to the other guys big time. The only problem I have is this. 14, let's say, let's see, 10 to 12 to 14 weeks out, guys. That puts it into the red zone next year. So I could almost say that they'll never see those rifles if we're lucky Yeah, if we're lucky it'll make it but I mean if they're it'll be borderline But again, they're m1a's m14s beautiful battle rifles the car beans eight weeks out man. That's still in the red zone guys Just figure the math. Okay eight times seven That's far enough out that you know that's looking into the window when the nutcase is going to start when oh when Obama Mugabe starts here the rest of his pomp and circumstance and plugs in the rest of what handgun control incorporated is already bragging about and they're not going to do it months and months and months down the road they're going to try this immediately they're on a hell of bent for election course on this okay so be it and I tell you what if we do get more time Well guess what? That means you got more time to buy more ammunition weapons and tune out everything the rest the way that you didn't. However, the message I'm seeing, and this is cool, a lot of people are doing this, I had a couple calls today, more than a few people have picked up these dragon offs, and there's been a question about this, and I know it's not Weapons Wednesday. Guys, those Russian SBD dragon offs, I don't care if they're, SBD pattern, I don't care if it's Romanian, I don't care if it's Yugoslavian, I don't care if it's Russian, they're all beautiful firearms. Those are an excellent weapon, that is their answer, that was the Russian MBR. the counterpart to the M14 in our family of weapons or say the M1 Garand to our family of weapons that we used to issue and that the Russians used to issue. Remember they were supposed to have the Peppier submachine gun, the SKS carbine, the AK-47 and the assault rifle family and then for an MBR they were looking at a Semenov rifle, a heavier one originally, but the Dragunov, the SVD type rifle, that stretched AK action became the norm instead. and it is a beautiful firearm but most important is buy the magazines while you can. Buy the magazines while you can. Buy the magazines while you can. There are only 10 shot mags. There's nothing bigger that's made that I know of other than the Namibia. There's one batch of 20s that came in from somebody about 1996 or 7. That's it. And even those, I don't know that I've seen any of those on the market. I have seen three shot, I've seen five shot, and I have seen ten shot. And by the way, the three and fives were all special order products that came in back in the 90s, way back in the early, early 80s. So other than the mags you're seeing out there right now, if you don't buy them now, you're going to regret it later. Pick up more mags. I'd rather have four. Well, four is great. That's typically what you come with, but say 10, 12 mags are fine. I know they're not cheap, but it's an option that when the time comes, if you have to trade that weapon out, it's going to be critical when the time comes in the exchange, in the barter, because someone's going to go, well, what am I going to do with mags for that? The other guys got SBDs, but I need more mags. Oh, don't worry. I have more mags. And here's the ammo that goes with it. You give me that M1A, I'll take the SBD, everybody's happy. See how that works? Yep. There, so that's what we need to be thinking about. But the Dragunov is a fine rifle. You give me that rifle, I'll drive tax at 600 yards. I've taken that rifle and to 1,000 yards have kept it in pie plate five round groups. I'm fascinated with that weapon for as crude as it's supposed to be. The SVD will perform exactly, once you know where its point of impact is, most important. Once you have a chance to familiarize with the rifle and you've got it cited to you, it's your weapon. It's an extension of your mind. So don't even think twice if that's the rifle you have to pick because there aren't any three awaits and there aren't any other two two threes That svd will get you what you need and by way if you want an AR down the road an m4 or if you need a an ak 74 or whatever that Dragunov will get it for you. I'd say that's as nice as she gets that's a Cadillac. Yep So anyway, it sounds like we got it We've got our work cut out for us, but it's we're already seeing the basic picture here guys This was supposed to be a major piece, this particular article spike, but it was a throw together, it was a damage control piece. And it's fascinating, the only other direction they could go is to start to imply, is to try to imply threats against us now guys. That's the perception I get from the C-SPAN articles and all this, because all this garbage you're generating is like, yeah, no, well we already knew that, yeah we already knew that. So why sputter that out right now? Now, if anybody says anything, we'll have to ask them, okay, this is generated by the government and was generated by the controlled press, and they're talking about the threat. So you definitely need a gas mask. Now, for a person who's going to go, oh, that's crazy, don't even say a word to him anymore. Don't even worry about that. Focus on the other people that are listening. Tell the person who's laughing he needs a gun lock. Okay, everybody understand the policy there from now on? Yep. With our enemies, if you're dealing with somebody that's a goof that's starting to do the, oh that's crazy, oh you know what, you're right, I fully agree. You know there's a new law that says you have to have gun locks in all of your weapons? And if they find that you don't have a gun lock on your weapon, they're gonna come and arrest you, they're gonna kick your door in and come to your home? So I have a bucket full of gun locks here for you. For our enemies let them go ahead and do whatever they wish to fall upon their own sword I don't have a problem with that at all and for these some of these characters if they're gonna be that goofy then Ain't nothing you're gonna do for them, and you don't want them showing up on your doorstep later So I tell you what the bad guys get their goodies well. That's not our choice. That's really not preferred Ideally you want to also plant the seed well. You know if it looks like it's really bad. You've got a firearm You know I'll probably take it before it becomes a problem You'd probably rather get a decent price for it than $50 from the government or them demanding you turn it in and not getting anything for it at all You know what I mean start Start planning those I'm that pump. Yeah, if they want to be fearful and they're oh my god They're gonna you know, oh you're right. You should get rid of all your firearms now In fact, you know, I bet it pump. Oh, you'd be better off giving them theme for a pretty good price You know still reasonable as opposed to them coming and kicking in your door for them If they take them you don't get anything for them. Yeah. Oh, yeah Yeah, I'm back. We'll take all those weapons from you. They're such a nice guy. No, not a problem I've got other friends too. So if you got a lot of them you just let us know. Oh your grandpa's collection Oh, oh and you were such a weenie you never pulled the trigger on any of them. Oh, is that a 1919? Oh, your grandpa was a fine collector. Don't argue with them at all guys. Instead just reverse. You start talking about, oh yeah, you gotta get rid of those. Oh my goodness. You don't have any kind of firearms around do you? Because you know if you want to appease the new Russians, the new Soviets, you better make sure that you don't have anything just laying around. Yeah. I will let you gentlemen go. I wanted to add in one more thing though. I appreciate you letting us have that kitty cat. Uh oh. His name is Thomas Timmons. Uh oh. The gray fuzzball. Yes. He's a proud Patriot kitty. Alright. The other cats don't want to make of him though. I have a huge black cat and he's pretty mean. Making the little cat because the little cat doesn't even act like he's there. And I keep saying, well, Jack, you know, my big black cat's name is Jack. I said, Jack, he used to live with a 200-pound dog. He's not going to be afraid. Right. He's like, eh, you're nothing. I've seen much bigger. Yeah. He's grown and lived up with he's Lee he's grown up with with critters many hundreds of times his size in fact his under neck because All it takes a he's like his counterpart with we call big nose He goes over and big nose goes over and lays down in Bruce's bed simply because he can And Bruce is so decent as an animal as animals go and treat you treat you treat you know when treating other animals You know as far as not being aggressive with them if they're in the house is that they'll let he'll let big nose sit there and take over the bed and he'll walk over and look at me like He's doing it again Those big cats, you know the big vicious cats we have so yeah, they're there they're from a good line so we brought him home and When we got in the door wasn't anybody here to feed the cats that day. We give them like a half a food in the morning and a little bit of moist food at night. Set him down and four plates, you know, four cats. Put a little bit on each plate. He went and cleaned them off. Uh-oh. Hey, this is the good stuff. Well, yeah, he's like, wow. So the others better be faster is what you're saying. It was good going down, but boy, it wasn't good coming out. Uh-oh. Hey, Andrew. Kitty. Just by chance, you don't know a Melvin, Timmons, do you? No, I do. Okay. As a matter of fact, the crazy thing is my grandfather, he grew up in the very poor part of Marion, what they called Harlem. His parents died when he was a little boy and he got pushed from aunt to uncle to aunt to uncle and he finally got tired of it and he ran away and two prostitutes picked him up and took care of him and then he took care of them. And I'm sure that my last name is even Timmets. That's what's on my, that's the name on my I am the manufacturer certificate. I'll let you guys get on with him and you all have a good night. Thank you, Mike. Be good. Yeah, bless. Okay. And I think we do have another caller. Who do we have before the top of the hour? We have Tom from Michigan. We got Tom. Oh, Tom, jump in there. Yeah, I was wondering, you just talked about gas man. Has your night ever come up with a thing about the for the babies and stuff? Yes, as a matter of fact, he's working on that project that is Butter Knife's mission right now. He has all the components I have sent him, including by the way, some of what was a very unique item that nobody else has. I have some of the NBC casualty blankets. And depending on how that might be worked into the program, we even have the ability to put a full NBC suit over the child cribs, which is going to be kind of cool. We'll see what happens there. But he's working on a very simple system. He already has the fans that we had on hand. Oh, excuse me, plus hoses, mask components, filters, tank filters, the whole nine yards. So anything that he wants to experiment with is at his fingertips, and he's working on that right now. So we'll find out more as we go because it turns out, even in the chat room here, we have probably about three people at least that I can see, and I'm gonna look real quick here. Oh yeah, we got at least three people in there that had an interest in the child protective systems for the infants, for the baby babies. And we are working on this. Well my granddaughter, she's four and a half. Oh no, I understand you're... She's paralyzed from the weight down and she's got weak lungs because she was a freebie. Right, now the one thing I'll point out is we've had to deal, as I've said before, we've dealt with individuals who have had a number of different diseases that have made incapacitated them. And for that reason we've had to come up with mechanical systems. The idea that Butter Knife has is actually pretty sound. It's a positive pressure system. So all they do is just breathe normally. And that's the idea, is to make it so that there is no special, other than just hooking the system up so the person is in it. Beyond that, it's breathe normally and they'd be able to function to a degree. They're not going to be able to dance around the room, but they're going to be breathing safely and they're going to be secure. And that's the most critical thing. We may have another application for this too, because some people are looking at their animals. So people have pets and such this is another consideration. We actually have a solution my idea with the with the animals Was before to go with a pet carrier, but do a pet carrier modify it accordingly and still use the positive pressure system and butter knife is pretty well I think you know thought it through so I'm letting one person work on it We got any ideas will share back and forth But he's moving ahead with the program and all the parts and pieces are where they need to be now so It's purely a matter of coming up with a containment vessel that works for the subjects involved and then making it so simple that anybody can put it together. If you had to fabricate it yourself, you could sacrifice a couple of what, $6 or $8 gas masks and make the system yourself. Well I can do that, yeah. Right, but we're not going to have to do that. I don't want people to because I've got all kinds of, I've got hoses, I've got tank filters. uh... we got all the stuff that we can we we can pass on and i'd rather see it used for that kind of project doesn't mean we don't need more filters but uh... word we're trying to route this stuff because uh... That's one of the priorities. Be quite honest, our NBC defense battery is something that we are most concerned with. We're not going to have enough. I'm telling you right now, they primed the pump, Don, with this piece today. Guys, for everybody listening, they're starting to throw it out there. It doesn't mean 2013. It means they're going to hit us. This is one of the many options they have sooner. Yeah. Christmas sign. When everybody's partying or New Year's with their ... Well, if they ... If they do it, it's going to be, they want it isolated to a degree because if they make it too massive, and I think they understand this too, this can reverse on them. People who are in uniform are not going to stick around with their troops if they think their families are at risk. See, one of the things that's happened is kind of like police, okay, when Wayne County, oh, let me be an example, we're almost off the arc. Wayne County Lockup, 9-11. First plane hits the World Trade Center. Okay, they do a lockdown in the county building. Second plane hits the World Trade Center. Guess what happens? Everybody left. The guys were standing up looking outside and said the parking lot cleared out. Everybody left the facility. The prisoners were on their own. So this didn't just happen in like Katrina down there in New Orleans. In a situation where people figure they're at ground zero, they ain't sticking around to see whether or not they're going to be flammable. You know what I mean? That's a good song for Edith from That Ground Zero by Weird Al. I'm going to let you go, but I just wanted to check. Good point! That's Christmas music for tonight. It's Christmas, That Ground Zero. Alright. Love you guys. God bless. Thank you, Tom. Appreciate that. Thank you for reminding us of that. We're going to have to make sure we do play that tonight. We're working on it guys, we're gonna put it together for you and for everybody that's concerned about that, this is a priority. So, just stay tuned as soon as we have an answer, we're gonna pass it on to you about the NBC for infants. NBC defense. We're at the top of the hour, Don. As always, God bless the Republic. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We are on the run. Ooh-rah! Fixed bayonets chasing down the road, give them a backpack full of die-bull machines. Let him swim back over to Mr. Mugabe. He'll take care of him in Zimbabwe. 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