I bet she's kissing him but I don't care you see, cause I've forgotten already how she used to kiss me. And then I tell myself, who do you think you're fooling more when you try to philosophize? Go ahead, pretend she doesn't matter and hide behind your lies. But I bet you one thing, I bet you can't hide those tear drops in your eyes when you say... That it's just one of life's little tragedies Soon the memories will pass away Just one of life's little tragedies But I'll remember till my dying day I'll remember till my dying day Wolverine Military Outfitters folks, this is WolverineM.com. We specialize in ACUs, BDUs and SDUs. MOLLE gear, tactical vests, armored vests and kevlar helmets. Custom camo fabrics and camo netting. All your flare gun and ammo needs. Parachute players, red rain flares, 50 cal ammo cans, ghillie suits, snow camo, Russian gear, German gear, Swedish gear, American gear. If there's something we don't have, just ask and we'll find it for you. So check us out wolverinemo.com, wolverinemo.com. Check out our site, it's updating daily folks. Mention Liberty Tree Radio for your listeners discount or just call us at 734-340-7285-734-340-7285. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, We've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we'd hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torture freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free? And good evening ladies and gentlemen, this is the intelligence report I'm Mark Wirke I'm Darrell Sivik. We're also on AM&FM Microstations, CB Bay Stations, and alternate technologies both east and west of the Mississippi, along with southern and central Alaska. We're also on the Hallmark net, five states in the colonial region of the US and expanding to six by this weekend. Totally independent formation and we'll find out more about what's happening in that direction, probably Monday or Tuesday, but even have one of the Hallmark directors up for the new system as it's established. We'll see what happens there. Now, party on the beach tomorrow, party on the beach, party on the beach. We also have a couple of reports here tonight, but Real quick, one of the interesting things is, yes, 909, I got your statement farther up the scroll here, so I saw that. No confirmation on this Bowling Green, Kentucky story. Now here's the thing, I don't doubt that it was on the air at all. In fact, I'm very sure it was. You guys are witnesses. But it would be classic KGB, guys, if it turns out that the whole thing literally, or at least that part of the story, was fabricated for the benefit of the Batfaggots. It wouldn't be the first time, it ain't going to be the last. It's right in line with the kind of reporting we can expect and the only way we're going to be able to put that dog down is for everybody to pitch in and work for us to confirm exactly the chain of events if there are any. Now we're getting response already from different people that are saying that they're down in the Bowling Green area and they saw nothing on this BS. And so, we ain't talking Bowling Green, Ohio. It's supposed to have been Bowling Green, Kentucky. So, that's going to be an interesting development as we do more research. Now, I will point out that on that program, they gave the name, by what I understand, of the individual that they were after, that they were harassing, attacking, where they were chasing, whatever. And it would be interesting to see if that person even exists. That will be really fast. The idea behind this is to see just how much BS or fabrication they can get away with. We're gonna see what we can do, okay? So anyway need some help there with everybody if you can let's see what we can do to track down this Story and it may really really be a fairy tale of course with the bat bag. It's what would be a fairy tale wouldn't it? Oh pardon upon anyway Other things going on remember series of exercises and training meetings and Management meetings this weekend coming up everybody, you know pay attention while you're on the road weather's gonna be up and down We're getting into the winter And we will do what we can And what we'll see we can do is find out about the overall operations and give some spot reports and maybe you have some guests up at the end of the Training period here for the weekend now. We've got Daryl Daryl here with us Yes, sir. Now you stay where you are. We got a special report and again get your pen and paper out take notes. We got Dave with the PBN report on activities some of which were touched up touched in the chat room here by the way to earlier today. Go ahead Dave. Good afternoon gentlemen. We have an incident that took place for the nice holidays out in St. Cloud Minnesota. Basically some people refer to that as being central I consider it more northwest because it's getting up close to North Dakota. It's not too far. In fact, my recollection of the place is it's basically the end of the line because you can ride a train from here to St. Cloud, but if you want to go Northwest you've got to take a bus or walk or find some other means of transportation because the train don't go any farther. I'll tell you what Dave, do me a favor speak up just a little louder so people can hear you. Okay, yeah it is signing for some reason here not like it should be. Does that make it any better? There we go. Sounds a little better right there. Okay, that's better there. Yeah, I changed the position here on the mic. All right, we have What a lot of people here in the chat room would already know is a cable network which I have been with as a reporter for quite some time. It's called In Your Face Cable TV or if you go on the internet it's inyourface.tv. There's a sister company which is PATV. The number 8 and then an M as in Mary.net. P-A-T-V dot 8-M dot net. That stands for Patriot Action Intelligent Network. The owner of that station, an operator, is a man named, most commonly known as Wolfgang Anacon. However, his real name is Edward Anthony E. Bacher. He was arrested again by the St. Cloud Police. Him and I went through this nonsense about five years ago. And he finally, after we beat the case and got the thing settled back then, he left the place. He came back. He shouldn't have done that. Here they are again. He got charged Tuesday night at 1.15 in the morning. The St. Cloud SWAT team broke into his home. He's home alone. Drag him out of bed and haul him off down to the police station. He's charged with making a terroristic threat. The local St. Cloud Times has a blog site on their newspaper website. And somebody posted an email with his name and in your cable, KV, on the thing and making all sorts of innuendos and accusations against police officers, judges, other public officials. such as doing a little nuking of them if they come to my house or shooting them if they come to my house. They better bring the body bags, all sorts of innuendos and remarks like that. Now the newspaper comes out and says that he admitted to posting the blog. They are already trying and convicting him in the press before he's even had a chance to jury trial. And it mentions here that he He used to have a public TV-ass broadcasting. It's not past, it's present. It's alive and alive. I don't know what they're talking about. Also, this man is apparently doing a search on the Internet. I wasn't aware of it until last night that he is also a member of the Minnesota militia and apparently is an officer, according to The militia website, which is minnesotamilitia.ak.com. I believe there's more than one website, but that's one website where you will find information there as well. minnesotamilitia.ak.com. He was taken in for I guess the first permit and arraignment. The first thing, the very next morning after being arrested and hauled off in the dark, sort of like something I think in the Bible where they hauled somebody off in the dark and they did all this trial and dragged him in before the judge and got him an already sentence and ready to go. Apparently he's already been arraigned. They set a bond. And he doesn't have another court date until December the 19th. That's an awful long time. Bond has been set at $100,000 according to the booking sheet, which I am looking at. However, a friend of his informed me that he could get out of jail if he had $3,000 cash. I ran that by the newspaper reporter today who published this trash article accusing the man of being guilty before he is tried. Guilty in the press. It amazes me. David Yoozy. He seemed to be a nice guy, just sort of didn't have a foggiest idea what the First Amendment was all about though. Him and I had a nice, long talk. He seems to be a likeable guy. He's even got his email in here, so anybody wants to email him, you can. On the post, it's on the Liberty Tree Yahoo group, if anybody wants to look at the postings. But he had no clue about what the First Amendment is all about. doing what he's told here. This is a report we want you to publish and the police gave it to anybody. And when I told him that I'd been talking to people that had already talked to him, he said, well, that's hearsay and that's your opinion. I said, wait a minute. Did you talk to Edward? Oh, no, I haven't talked to him. This is what the police gave me. I said, then what you published is hearsay. Now, isn't it? Well, the police gave it to me. It says, it's hearsay, isn't it? I said, have you done a follow-up report? Oh, no, we don't do anything like that. We just publish what we're given. Poor journalism. Nice guy, but totally has no idea what's going on out here. The $3,000 cash bond. Can you imagine? They want him to post a $3,000. They've got it like Mark talked earlier. They've got somebody for kidnapping, and it's a $100,000 bond. They've got this guy supposedly for posting an email on a website. a blog site threatening, making threatening remarks. Now, he didn't send it to anybody. If he'd have sent it to somebody, I could see there might be cause here. But he didn't send it. He posted it. It was posted on a blog site. Who posted it? That's another story. He says he didn't post it. The newspaper says he confessed that he did because the cops told him that he confessed. Any case. Well real quick here, let's tag something to this. First of all, the actual bond that they listed was how much again? $100,000. Now, what did they say the counter bond was going to be? that if he posts a $3,000 cash he can be out of jail. But it's on conditions and terms that if he's a good boy. Now here's my problem guys, do the math here on this. How can it go from $100,000 which by the way with the cash surety is between 10 and 25 percent depending on the state you're in. So you're looking at $10,000 to $25,000 in cash or surety is in for a house, a car, your property so they can steal it later. But let me ask the basic question, how would it go from 100,000 to 3,000? And the conditions, what are they? Well, let's see. What would you probably expect? Oh, don't post anything. Don't say anything. And so this is basically what they're doing is they're intentionally terrorizing people into not complaining about how they're being terrorized by the system. We already know in the Detroit issue, Mark, that they tried to terrorize Nancy and Ken over that same issue of, no, you can't say anything and you won't do this and you won't do that. But I also know that there's a case in Florida and there's a case in California, which I've helped with, that the people have been court ordered not to do anything on the Internet whatsoever to help anybody with any legal cases. If they do, they're looking at going to jet. The one in California is threatened by the feds. and the one in Florida is being threatened by the Florida Department of Law enforcement if she so much as helps anyone do a legal brief or a hapiest corpus. She goes to prison for 15 years. Now do you know here's listen because she didn't comply with the bond. Okay, let's point something out here. My question to this for years has been guys I've heard everybody say well these pro se people don't know what they're doing and blah blah blah or the you know pro per people blah blah blah. But then they turn around and you got to ask the basic question. Why is it they don't want us to file or work in this area? Because we are more competent than the bottom-feeding parasitic prostitutes that they hire who are the bottom of the bear roll. The parasites are, we can run, first of all, remember this, the Bar Association created the pile of spaghetti that they, we call, law so that they could be the witch doctors over it under the assumption that nobody else would be bright enough to follow all the little spaghetti strands. Well, the bottom line is this, we're better at it. than they are. And again, we got the thinkers, they got the stinkers. It's to the point where they're so bogged down with the bureaucracy that they can't understand their own system. And when we walk in and virtually take it over step by step, which, by the way, is what we did before 1775 in the colonies. Our pro se people, our individuals who are part of the jural societies not owned by the corporation of the crown, were able to run circles around and knew the law better than our enemies. So what did the Bar Association do? Well for instance they have a policy that if they have law books that are to be gotten rid of, they can't sell them, they're supposed to burn them. They're supposed to shred and burn them before I knew all about this I used to you know go check out used books or things that were being gotten we're in a by the library and I didn't know what some of the books were Then or to grab them but we stopped at this one place a friend of mine had to drop off several bales of recycled cardboard for the company that he had and Guys sitting there were three pallets of law books They looked brand new And I looked at the guy and I said, what are these doing here? He goes, oh, we have a contract, the Bar Association, whenever they have law books that they want to get rid of, I have to bring them over here and then we have to shred them. They have to guarantee that they're shredded. Well, I said, I'd like to buy some of those by the pound if you want. Oh, no, we can't do that. Well, of course, later on, another friend working there. Oh, yes, he did. And he sold all of the bar books that we could get hold of from him that we distributed to our allies. But up until that point, and even today, there are dozens of places where they make sure that the peasants don't get the law books. This goes back to the pre-revolutionary war period where our people got to the docks before the bar members did that were in the colonies. We bought the law books whenever they hit the beach, whenever they hit the planks down there at the pier. We got there first. We had them all. So when they try to baffle everybody with BS, we would go, excuse me, your honor, under code blah blah blah, under, you know, registry blah blah blah, fill in the blank, this, that's not what it says, it says here, and I quote. See, they're terrified of that because they have to baffle everybody with BS because they are criminals. Your guy is a go around and pick the dumpsters behind the law offices every time I knew that there was new additions being issued We had 42 we used to have 42 lawyers in town And so there was lots of law books that could be got out of the dumpsters within a few days after the new additions came out In fact, let's put it this way in prison guys They were shredding and burning the law books because we were using them effectively They're supposed to maintain a library because of the pro se work But things got so bad and the state was getting beat so much that the librarians were being instructed on what books to go in and get rid of. How do we know this? Our people run the libraries. We do all the work. Prisoners do all the work in the law library and in the regular library. So when they have a prisoner because they're so there they figure their feces doesn't stink everybody else's does. When one of these administrators tell somebody to do something they tell the prisoner to do it. So it's the prisoners that go over and pick the books off the whole collection of whatever it is and walk it over the dumpster because they don't want it around. Again, why? Because you can treat a prison as either a monastery or as a detention site. If you treat it as a monastery, every day is a day of learning. So there again, these pro se people that are behind the wire are ultra competent. So this is part of what this is all about. Again, the discrepancy here, a $100,000 bond, and all of a sudden it will become a $3,000 bond if you just go along with this. That basically what they're wanting to do is put the guy out of business because if he has no internet access Being a good little boy and no internet access as long as the charges are pending And they'll string this on for a long time that he cannot run his cable network the whole purpose behind this and this is where we need to do this very quickly somebody needs to pick it up and all they need to do is make sure that they they follow through on what he's been doing if there's technology or hardware and needs to be transferred and plugged in somewhere else immediately. The enemy's efforts are going to be absolutely useless. This is why we have to have backups to backups, plans within plans ourselves. That way it's like grabbing smoke. But again, for a lot of you out there listening, this is an example of abuse and my problem, well, it's blackmail. That's all it is. They fabricated this. They've grabbed his wife, of course. They're trying to grab his child. Tell me this isn't blood. Even if he does whatever he's told, they're not going to give him the child back. They're not going to let his wife go. They've got her locked up, first of all, and that to me sounds like, again, with this BS that's going on, it's all part of the things that are going to be on the list of things to remember when the time comes. I won't forget. And you better, well, again, in many cases they better hope that it's militia that they run into and not people who have been pressed to the limit like most of the population is right now. Because stuff like this, I'm not going to forget, that reporter for instance, what, he got it, what did he do, get his supposed degree out of a Crocker Jack box? Basic reporting 101 is to try and dig into the story itself and get all the facts. Instead, well, we just see what he said, we just print whatever they give us. So you didn't ask any questions, doesn't it seem strange to you? This incredible discrepancy? $100,000 or $3,000? Hmmm, something strange here. That would throw a flag up, so maybe you should ask other questions. Oh wait a minute. Maybe it, wait a minute, let's get that reporter off in between those cheeks because he's busy. Oh, he's so deep his ears are brown. That's what that thing, that reporter knows exactly what he's doing, as does the editor. They were not ignorant of what they were doing and they might be nice but they are still wicked buggers and that's one of the things that I would absolutely hold against them in the future. Here they hit him at 1 a.m. 15 a.m. in the morning and he's home alone and they strip his place and gee there was no mass weapons of destruction anywhere. Not even a gun did they find. No weapons. And so did the reporter follow up on that. No, well again, I think I'm gonna have some fun with this one So we're gonna talk later again, but I do I'm gonna let you go Dave because we do have other things we're gonna Alrighty, so I think you will keep track on this because I don't know where we go this. It's a st. Cloud Police that are responsible. This is the third time that they've done it and it's to him and I believe it's the third time They've done this to his wife. Also. I don't think there's any charges pending against her They just locked her up and then then social insecurity services steals a child I talked with him last week and I can't understand unless they had his phone wiretapped because we were talking about what we could do legally to take action for what the cops did against his wife. I'll tell you what, hold right there. Stop here. It sounds like, do we have a caller? Yes, you do. And who do we have? Spike. Spike. Spike, you have a question for Dave? I was just listening to you guys. I had a question for you. I was grabbing the knowledge. Very good. Not a problem. It's okay. I'm out of here if that's it. The stock market went up this week at 1300 points. Gold closed today at 817. Oil, $55 a barrel. What a surprise. It's still $5,000 off the Dow is from where it was the first of the year. Okay, thank you Dave. Good night y'all. God bless Dave. And we still have Darrel here too. Party on the beach. Party on the beach tomorrow, thank you. You're welcome. Spike, what was your question? My question was about the party on the beach. I will be there tomorrow. Well it's going to be a regular event. I've never been to one in the So shall we say the cooler temperature cooler temperatures? Well, don't worry everything will be indoors, so you'll be fine. Okay Okay, we're still gonna dress warm though. Oh yeah, oh wait as a matter of fact if you want to come with basic kit Be a good idea. Well your favorite green uniform or standard uniform would be a good idea Well, the closest I got to that is the shirt I got off of you Oh, we're gonna fix that we might have some things here sitting for you, so we'll see what we can do I was hoping so. I was going to come up there and spend some time with you guys because you're closer to me than any of my family is. That's hard to say because I've only been up to your place once, man. Not a problem. Well, again, it'd be useful. But that's how it is. If you're there a little earlier, that'd be fine. Figure towards the evening, 4 o'clock on, it'll be fine. Alrighty, sir. We'll see you tomorrow, then. Appreciate that. You be good. Careful on the road. Watch out. You guys are on the slick side of the state. Remember that. Oh yeah. Okay, thank you Spike. We'll see you tomorrow. Okay. And we're right at the bottom of the hour here anyway. We'll take our bottom of the hour break. And Daryl, when we come back, we got things covered. 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Ladies and gentlemen, we are back. This is the Intel Report. That's pokerface at pokerface.com and it's just past the bottom of the hour. We've got Butterknife with us here. And we've got Darryl. And Darryl was going to touch on some food preparation, which is in line with it, especially rustic food preparation. He's had a great deal of experience with that. But Butterknife, you've been on the road, so you just got back from the gun show. Was it peaceful and quiet there? It was not entirely a madhouse but was darn busy and for a Friday evening that's saying something. This is the Machinists Hall Gun Show in the St. Louis area. It will go for another hour and a half this evening. It's good 9 to 5 tomorrow and 9 to 3 on Sunday. This is probably the last fair sized show in this area before the coronation. So I would expect to see a fair amount of activity and early indications from Friday night is that there is in fact a fair amount of activity there. I did not see any Liberty Arms at this show. I did see quite a number of dealer arms and an awful lot of people just happily filling out their little 4473s and so on. A lot of women buying pistols actually. I saw quite a few of those. Ammunition was in moderate supply. There were quite a number of 6.2x39 spam cans. I saw 700 round spam cans going variously for 175 to 200 for a can. But you get a special can opener along with it. So that's special. I saw a 7.62x54 going for one ten a can, which is also quite believable. And upside of those cans at least, as they looked brand new, they looked in great condition. I believe those were Romanian. At least the 7.62x39 was. See an awful lot of rather oldie, moldy ammunition coming out of garages and things and being sold in boxes. Not necessarily at stunningly terrific prices. I saw some 223 there. Reloads in plastic sacks offered at higher than Wally World prices. So that, I don't know whether that fella's being an optimist or whether that's sort of the The handwriting on the wall, but that's sort of unpleasant. There was a vendor there selling AR mags. These are used mags. They need some work cleaning up, refinishing, that sort of stuff. He had two grades. One was offered at $8 per magazine. They had never been painted. Another basket full of them at $5 per magazine, $4 a piece if you bought 100 of them. They had a little bit of paint on them. They had been painted and some of it had been stripped off, but they still needed further attention in that area. But if somebody is willing to get in there and strip down and clean up some magazines and so on, $5 a piece. He had at least 100 of them. The basket I saw is probably 150 of them and he may have had other baskets as well. So that at least is a potential bargain for a do-it-yourselfer that's willing to clean up and refurb some magazines. I saw a bunch of AR uppers running anywhere from 550 to 850 just for the uppers, various odd calibers. Let's see, aside from that, Well, a good old butter knife picked up a little bit of steel, found a trench knife at a good price, but that was a one-off. There's a vendor with piles of various bayonets in pretty good condition, $15 and $20 a piece. So those are useful utility items. What else? I guess those are the major impressions I had from this show. This is the show at the Machinists Hall in the St. Louis area. on St. Charles Rock Road. Now the Machinist Hall is not necessarily all that obvious. It is on the north side of the road. It is a few hundred yards east of 270. And if you have difficulty finding it, look for the Walgreens and turn in there. You will see it. Are there any other questions that occur to you off the top of your head? and again everybody should have been out shopping we know from certain stores that they had little or no business and these are major shopping centers major stores major chains here in Michigan really and the only place where there is a and they actually are commenting and they're like being snippy about it's like who are the only business it's up is gun business yeah you're right that's the business it's up yeah everybody else is like there's nothing going on nobody's buying cars Nobody's buying trucks. Nobody's buying trinkets. In fact, they had a sale on flat screen TVs and normally they sell out within three hours, this one store chain. They still had all of them. They hadn't moved but maybe one or two, maybe three out of the hundred or so that normally they sell and they already had everything there ready to go because they have this sale every year and everybody knows about it. and lo and behold this year, flat as a pancake. So again, but in the firearms division, I'll tell you what, one thing they did guys, the money's going to people that I like, if you know what I mean. All these other people have been snide or arrogant or have been buggers or have screwed the country in one form or another. Right now everybody pretty well understands that that's where it's headed. So they're putting their money, shall we say they're voting with their wallet and putting their money where it needs to go in the right ballot box. It's not just the hardware. I chatted up the powder and primers guy in the corner that is in all of these shows. He says business is very brisk for him. Yes. Well, that's what something we warned about is right. The next step is a lot of people bought their thousands and thousands of brass, you know, cases. They got their percentage of their primers and now they realize, man, I got to finish this off. I need this and I need this and I need this. And that way they don't have to spend the money that we would say on loaded ammunition at half a dollar or a dollar around. So that's where the next wave has been. In fact, I haven't been to high tech ammo, but all their powders were gone. Most of their projectiles of all standard type they still had listed, but we don't know if they have them they had those pulled 30 caliber 762 NATO tracers and if those are available that's still a good price. They were not all guaranteed to fire. Who cares? It's a projectile. It'll have the same ballistic coefficient when it comes to dropping it down range. And hell with that open back end the way they are, they have a tendency to yawn and smack when they cavitate when they make contact with a target, which is good. Yeah, so $60 per thousand, any sort of jacket at 30 caliber, that's a bargain. Yeah, and so there's an area to go in. That's a good that's good to hear we have birch run gun show this weekend by the way I'll remind everybody again of that I know we got to hear we haven't forgotten you're there the birch run gun show one more time here is at the Expo Center on I-75 at exit 136 it's right off I-75 at exit 136 it's the birch run gun show you go right up 23 or I-75 out of the southeastern part of the state Takes you right up to birch run if you're looking for it on the map guys It's up there around Bay City Saginaw in that area up towards where the with a thumb comes together with the index finger makes that Bay right there and It should be a pretty good show, but I'll tell you I guarantee it's gonna be busy the last two have been swamped everybody came through and a lot of guys left on Saturday because Well Daryl butter knife they had nothing left to sell They sold out that should tell you something okay, so depending where you are in the country everybody is pointing You know shall we say their money in the right direction and if you're still looking for stuff I recommend that you you know dot the I cross the T if you need mags I will recommend again, and I have not had any feedback in the chatroom, but I don't know if it is contacted main military I did not get a chance to call him again today. We got a lot of work done, but because of that we didn't get certain things accomplished. But mainmilitary.com, M-A-I-N-E, military.com, may have some 223 AR-15 mags, 20 rounders thermold, 30 rounders in thermold, and some regular military contract AR-30 round mags. I had heard before I went traveling this week that main military was out of the 30 round thermolds. This was second hand from the chat room, but at that time they still had the 20s. I grabbed the 20s to be quite honest. It was a choice between the two. I know people are going, oh, it's kind of, oh, I want the extra 10 rounds. I would rather have 20 rounds that accurately and reliably leave that magazine than 30 rounds and two malfunctions. Because every once in a while that's the only thing about the larger magazine in the AR is that every once in a while it doesn't happen all the time and once the mag's tired and it's broken in, yeah it'll work every time. But usually when they're tight, every once in a while that follower has tendency to go eh and cause a miss, you know, either a failure to feed or may cause a failure to properly feed. It's not going to happen with all, but I'm just, that's just my little, a little quirk with me. The 20 rounders will work just fine if you can't get 30s by the 20s. Better to have magazines and lots of them, and besides, you'll use them. The US GI 20s have a terrific reputation for reliability within the range of AR mags that is to say. Yeah, exactly. No, you're absolutely right. They're an excellent magazine. There's nothing wrong with them. The thermal mags in 20 are a straight magazine. There's really not a whole lot that can malfunction. Now, Frank said that they were getting in 500 Bulgarian mags. I don't know if they did. I don't know if they've sold out. probably has but you might want to spot check with him. The best deal that he had on the AR mags guys was thermal mags in a molly six pocket pouch, woodland camouflage, government issue. The mags are thermolds but it's a nice package price with six mags or with three mags. In other words, six pockets full or only three of the pockets filled but the price is adjusted accordingly. So that's a good option. If you got AR-15s grab the mags while you can. Remember you're never going to have enough. In fact the standard battle load for an AR for us with the 30s and the 20s would be about 25 to 30 mags. That's not an exaggeration. That's exactly because number one you're carrying add-ons and you're going to drop them and you're going to lose them. You're gonna wish you had extra mags by the time you were done. You'll be scrounging off the dead on the battlefield, especially if you can zap your enemy properly, all within a very short period of time. It doesn't take long to go through all those little chiclets, okay? So, there's an historical reference to that over and over again from people who have had this experience. So, buy more mags. Can't stress that enough. Anyway, real quick, Butterknife, what else to cover? Please, go ahead. Well, I've been out of touch for most of this week. I got dragged off to hang out with a bunch of relatives. I have to say that I was rather disappointed to discover that I didn't make the no fly list. So I guess they're not taking me seriously. I'm gonna have to redouble my efforts on these Friday evenings. But did you have cranberry sauce with you? Did I what? Did you have cranberry sauce with you? I did not. Oh, okay. Well, then you're safe. If you had cranberry sauce, you were perceived as an aggressive terrorist. Also, gravies, by the way. I got all the way through the 4th Reich checkpoint with a full-sized tube of toothpaste, though it was two-thirds used. That means it was more likely to be plastic explosives. Oh well, actually. Oh, hanging out with the relatives. One of them has routine professional contact with children, so I hear more about the kid culture when this happens. Every couple of three years we have this little get together. I heard an interesting little bit today, well yesterday I guess, apparently one of the very hot items this year for Christmas, the toys, is a kids pair of night vision goggles selling for $30 a piece. I would surmise that these are probably built around a camcorder CCD pickup because those do have some response in the infrared. For all I know it may be a single pickup to both eyes or maybe only one eye and a lot of plastic and so on. But it's very interesting that for $30 list price there is some sort of night vision goggles being peddled to the kitties. We're going to have to check that out. Do we have any idea who made it? I don't know. I haven't had any time to check. I just got home, touched space, ran off to the gun show, came back. I have dinner sitting in my lap. So I haven't had time to investigate. But $30 less price supposedly at Toys R Us, etc. I think it's worth looking into. What's more, children have a very short attention span and something like that is useful only if all the kids in the playgroup have them because the rest of the kids are sitting around in the dark, getting hit by a nerve or whatever. The attention span and interest may dissipate, so those may start appearing in the thrift stores or the garage sales next season if we aren't in a flat out shooting war by then. So I would tuck away in the back of my head and look for those, be aware that they exist and look around. We should probably have more intelligence shortly on what they are and how well they perform. Sure, they require active illuminations. So that would be perfect. These combined with the IR or the low intensity It's used for illuminators to the front away from the vision devices. Right, plan on illuminating your area of observation, not yourself. Disable or cover the illuminator that's built in and you might actually have something that's useful. Everybody with at least some ability is better than not being able to see in the dark at all. That's what Don says. Some night vision of any sort is better than no night vision of any sort. Perfect. Tell you what, we've got Daryl here. I want you to give everybody, if you could, a butter knife. I wanted Darrell to come up because he was going to talk about for the first half hour rustic food preparation tools and techniques because Darrell, you've been involved in reenactment for a long, long time, haven't you? Yes sir. Twenty some years, roughly, maybe a little longer. So, I mean you had a little chance to actually practice and test the equipment and make the trade work, right? Yeah. Yeah. We covered the whole spectrum from cooking to military drill and firing techniques from the French Union wartime period right up through the American Civil War. And what I was wanting to touch on tonight was mainly how to prepare some food or how to be able to have a hot meal if you don't have a proper kitchen or a mess kit or modern utensils to cook with. and uh... yet that's that's the clear if you're out there are for all you you don't have uh... package mr easton you know that meals ready to eat but you do have uh... can of uh... beans that you have to pack away your pack for emergency it's cold you want to eat something more more how would you put the can of beans out the middle of wilderness when all you got is just a can And of course you did prepare and have some matches with you so you can build a small fire. What you do is you open the top lid about two thirds of the way across and you peel it back. Build yourself a nice little fire and you set the can right down inside the fire and that'll heat that can of beans up for you nice and warm and toasty. And the reason you want to cut the lid and pull it back is one, it gives you a handle to pick the can up with. in and out of the fire to stir the beans to heat it up with. And if you don't have a spoon with you, you can always stir it with your knife or a stick, or you can clean the stick off the bark and stuff. But you use the lid as a handle to pull the can of beans in and out. And the other reason you open it is if you try to heat the beans without opening the can to let the pressure off when you open it, it's hard to explode on you. Okay, which then could cause you some burns, nasty little burns on your hands or something like that from the hot juices. But that's canned food in general. You can do it that way. It doesn't matter what kind of food it is that's canned if you have it there. Now, if you happen to have to shoot your food like a squirrel or something like that because you just don't have anything or you've been out there long enough that you've used all that other stuff up, But you again don't have a proper mess kit or anything to cook with. You can take in skin your game out, whatever it happens to be, and put it on a small spit and rotate it over the fire. And just turn it every so often and you'll be surprised how good it will taste, especially when it picks up the smoke flavor from the different woods that you will be using to heat it. And you can do it that way. Let's say you're lucky enough that you run across the turkey. Now how are you going to cook a turkey in the woods? Well, you build yourself a fire, of course, hopefully you have more than just one of you, but you build a fire, dig a pit. You get yourself a bunch of leaves if you can find them, wet leaves, whatever, or if you happen to find aluminum foil, anything that's protected from the coals. And you can pour the coals in the ground, put two sticks in, Put the turkey breast down, put more coals on top of it, and put a light packing of dirt over top of that and pull the two sticks out. Now what's nice about cooking a turkey that way, there is no odor or cooking smell that goes into the air. There might be a smell of smoke or fire from the fire that you built, but when the turkey is cooked underground like that, other noses might not be able to pick that up. and follow it to you. Of course, if you want to set a trap or an ambush, that's one way to do it. But it takes about four to six hours, depending on the size of the turkey, to bake it in the ground like that. And you only have to build the, or put one layer of coals in there. You don't have to dig it up and redo this two or three times. One good pile of coals inside and one on top and dirt to cover it with. And two air holes, with the two air holes. Darrell, you're reminding me of things that I haven't remembered for 30 years from Boy Scouts. One of them is that any stick is clean if you cut a fresh stick and go ahead and whittle it a little bit. Take the surface off and it's clean, so that's safe to use. Another item I will try not to interrupt you too much is that with a little bit of whittling and some fairly fresh sticks, you can imagine making what amounts to a bad mitten racket out of bits of wood. You can use two of those and put anything in between them and hold that over a fire too. If you happen to have bread, you can put the bread over make two of them and hold them together and you have a way to toast your bread. Exactly. Oh, remember making dough and wrapping it snake style around a stick and that can go as a fire as well. That was going to be one of the next things I covered. Now, if you didn't have a can of food or you didn't have a turkey but you had some fixin' from your canteen and make it into a doughy mixture and you clean the bark off, the reason I always say clean the bark off the stick When you peel the food off there, it's less likely to have the bark get stuck inside after it's been cooked a little bit. But you wrap the stick, like you said, in a snake fashion with the bread and just slowly rotate it over an open fire so you can have warm bread, hot bread. I took a bunch of Boy Scouts down to Gettysburg to the battlefield down there. And one of the things that we had to do was cook some for one of their merit badges was to cook some bread or some food without cooking utensils. So we came up with this idea, or I came up with the idea of using, for my old Boy Scout days, of using a stick and wrapping the bread around the stick and then baking it. You know who liked it the most? I had a bunch of college professors, kids, in my Boy Scout troop. And some of the parents came with us to go down here and they could not fathom cooking bread over an open fire like that and how well it tasted. They were the ones that came back for seconds, thirds, fourths. But that's getting off the side track a little bit. But if it doesn't come out of a package, how can that work? Yeah, well that's exactly it. How can you cook it with Number one, how can you eat it if it doesn't come out of the package or make it without coming out of the package? And two, how can you cook it without paying the cook it in or nothing to bake it in? I think you're an evil plotter trying to get us all with MSG deficiency. Could be, I don't know. All I know is that I found that over my years of cooking, it didn't require a lot of spicing to disguise the flavor. Maybe that's why I always liked Spam because I was always eating it in Boy Scouts and almost anything you can eat tastes better when you're out in the woods and don't have anything. Yeah, especially if you get the slightest bit hungry and you start to get just the slightest bit cold or damp. It's funny how food seems to have an enhanced flavor. Yeah, your standards change a little bit. Exactly. You eat things that you never thought of. We've had all kinds of comments when I've cooked turkey over an open fire and we put bacon on it. We wrapped bacon on the outside of it and held it on with wire to be like self-basting so that it wouldn't dry out on the outside, but yet it would give a nice brown color to the turkey allowed to brown and cook all the way through plus the fact that the juice increase dropping into the fire then would enhance the flavor of the smoke that was coming up in roasting the turkey and I've had people it shows you how people have drifted away from from primitive side if you want to call it that they wanted to know if that was a real fire if that was a real turkey Were we really going to eat that? www.toysrus.com Gotta go guys! 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