November 26, 2008
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Mark Koernke and Darrell Sivek discussed survival preparedness, food production, and game hunting on Weapons Wednesday, November 26, 2008. The show covered animal husbandry practices including raising turkeys and pheasants for local food sources, proper use of single-shot rifles and shotguns for small game, and the importance of total resource utilization including processing game animals for pet food. Callers contributed information on topographic mapping resources, GPS limitations, and alternative travel routes using old logging roads and abandoned routes. The hosts emphasized map-based navigation over GPS reliance and promoted various military surplus suppliers and firearms parts vendors.
- weapons wednesday
- game hunting
- preparedness
- animal husbandry
- topographic maps
- gps limitations
- small game rifles
- survival food production
- military surplus
- navigation
- compass
- militia training
- sarco incorporated
- fn fal
- ammunition
- self-sufficiency
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Check out our site, it's updating daily folks. Mention Liberty Tree Radio for your listeners discount or just call us at 734-340-7285-734-340-7285. I had a dream the other night that, well I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, We've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You vie permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God-given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free and home? Well good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. This is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Corky And I'm Darrell Sivek. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east and northeast. Ladies and gentlemen you are listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com, PBN.4mg.com and we're on live 365 then go to Liberty Tree Radio. You will also find us on AM&FM microstations, CB base stations, and UltraNet technologies both east and west of the Mississippi along with pretty much all of Alaska now, or at least 50%. We're also on the Hallmark network on the east coast, five colonial states, the smaller ones that will give you a hint as to where we're talking about. And we are going to be expanding hopefully to number six there within the weekend. We'll see what happens for our guys and gals helping out with these projects. All unique technologies, all totally independent, and free-standing. The system shuts down, they continue to run. The only thing the enemy's gonna be doing is cutting off their nose and spiting their face while we continue to talk and we still gotta nose! Ha ha ha. Anyway, well I'll tell you what, Darryl, what day is it? This is Weapons Wednesday, the 26th of November. Tomorrow is Turkey Day. Oh man, you got my turkey dude! That's for the turkeys down in Washington, that hat. Well, we actually have a turkey flock here, which we never had turkeys in the past. I mean not in any quantity We've had some here and there, but we actually have turkeys. We've been kind of protecting them here locally and I mean the numbers of them that we've been bringing and dropping them off We've also done this with pheasant We started a pheasant population with a friend of ours across the river He has breeding pheasants and he he'll give you free eggs as many as you want Now we have pretty good luck with those as a matter of fact. We did 200 chicks In one year, the first time we did his eggs, which by the way are a mixed breed of anything, any pheasant you can think of, it's in that clutch, okay, it's in that pile of eggs. We only had three fail. The rest, 100% producers. Oh wow, talk about some bizarre looking chicks. Because you also let them mix breed, mix breed. So it can be anything you can think of. But anyway, the next thing we do after we get them big enough to fly on their own is toss them to the wind. and we propagate the area and generate a pheasant population that's like no other in the area, to be quite honest. And they're everywhere. They're all through this side of the river, they're on that side of the river, or to the east, the east side of Dexter, etc., etc. Well, the turkeys ended up being produced the same way, and they're looking good. The big thing here is producing, you know, creating, you know, working in the animal husbandry mode, okay, developing our local foodstuffs, not just our domestic, but our wild. Now, we are going to have to call out and thin out the coyotes here. Darrell, that's going to be a plus plus must real quick. And we're doing it. Some of our neighbors here, that's their specialty is coyote hunting. And it's time to start decimating the population here so we don't lose the production that we've created already in the food category. With that being the case, one of the things to look at is game getting. And while we talked about snares yesterday, and we absolutely need them, there are going to be situations where you have that target of opportunity situation. And, Darrell, there's a lot of different game getting weapons out there for especially survival that are pretty user friendly and pretty simple, correct? That's correct. You can go from single shot rifles to lever action. 22s I'm talking about here for small game. You can go from single shot bolt action. I think Savage reintroduced their gear a few years ago. There's Steven's favorite in the lever action, at least they were going to. Then there's, of course, H&R makes a single shot. We get a combo set. Savage at one time made an over and under combo. 22, 22 mag over 410, 20 gauge, what, you know, 12 gauge, all kinds of variation combinations there. to lever action 22s to even semi-automatic 22s, although in Pennsylvania you were not allowed to use a semi-automatic 22 to hunt small game with, but in some states you are. But then you have your single shot shotguns, your pump shotguns, and semi-automatic shotguns. And then there's a whole ton of variety of shot shells for those. So again, one of the things to remember is you've got to say a work project that you're in the middle of and you move some boards and lo and behold, there's something sitting there hissing at you and then it decides to run. Of course, no, it might be a cat. We really aren't going to do the Chinese thing yet. But if it's anything else that looks like it's on the edible list, then it really would be a good idea to have that single shot slung over your shoulder or in a scabbard or however it's most appropriate depending on the work condition, but it should be able to jump to your hand, as Don would say, and then dispatch the problem. Now the advantage is you don't waste the animal, you're going to take it back. There's another thing most people haven't thought about by the way. I would never eat a fill in the blank. You take your pick of whatever animal somebody's going to say they would never eat. Well you may not, but let me ask you something. How many cats and dogs you got out there? Oh that's right. If it's something you don't want to eat, but it's something that can be eaten by something else, then harvesting and collecting your canine and kitty food is something you better put on the list of things to do. Now my personal problem is this, as long as it's not people, human, it's pretty well on the edible list, okay? And so for me it'd be a little different story, but still, I've got animals that gotta be fed. And so nothing is going to go to waste. The basic rule of agriculture, guys, the basic rule of traditional farms is the only thing that the farmer didn't use was the squeal. Okay, when they were having to butcher a pig or kill a cow or kill the chickens, eat the chickens, nothing went to waste. Everything had a second use. And the same is true when it comes to getting rid of varmints. Just because it's a varmint doesn't mean that it can't be used for other purposes. A little trick here is, any of you have pressure cookers? Well, most of you don't realize it, but a lot of your dog food and kitty food is made up of all kinds of critters that you, well, wouldn't want to think about. And what they do is they actually have these large block pressure cookers where they don't do much anything with it, guys. They take the whole critter pretty much and throw it in, show to the leather on the outside. And everything gets pressure cooked to the point where the bone gets steamed, everything turns to very soft malleable material, and then can be ground up into whatever it is they want to grind it up into or deep fried or cooked to whatever level with whatever else they want to do to disguise what it is. and fluffy or the kitty cat, either one of them could be fluffy, end up eating it. Now you're going to have to start harvesting down the road so think this way. If you've got something that you've come across and you have to neutralize it because it's eating the grain, attacking something else that you're trying to protect, then it doesn't just get chucked off to the side. unless you determine that the thing is ill or sick in some way, that meat, that protein should not go to waste. Keep in mind you've got those canines that your security dogs, perimeter security, they may simply be the watch alarm, they may simply be the family pets, but either way you're going to have to keep them going and we aren't going to throw them one of the family members. Well, of course, you never know, but I don't think so anyway. So keep that, keep that on the top of your head on inventory B as far as, gee, what do I do with that possum? Or what do I do with that snake that I just killed? Snake? Yeah, snakes can be cooked too, just like anything else. Purely a matter of how big or small they are. And again, for dealing with the critters when you're trying to create dog food or cat food, hey guys, all you gotta do is gut them. and certain organs can be thrown in there in the pot too. After you've skinned it and gutted it, then throw the whole thing into the pressure cooker, cook it to temperature, keep it there for so long. Guess what? You got kitty food or cat food, dog food, whatever, when you want it. That's how it's going to work. And the pressure cooker can be kept off to the side, one of several. I have, I think we have five total at least right now that are big ones. We got a couple little ones. Where'd I get them? Got them at the yard sales, guys. paid no more than a dollar or two. Couple of them got off the side of the road where somebody, grandma, they got grandma's stuff and they decided they didn't know what to do with the pressure cooker so they tossed it out. Guess what? We got it, works fine, we're happy. Saved us about $100 when you figure what some of these pressure cookers cost. Anyway, ideas. Go ahead, go ahead, you'll be surprised how good possum tastes when you're hungry. Oh yeah, oh no, no, that's what I'm saying. Remember that line from the Patriot? I say we drink the wine, use the paper for wads, and eat the dogs. Remember the minister goes, eat the dogs? The guy, the one militia man, looks at me and goes, oh yeah, a dog is a fine meal. And they're all smiling and nodding. Well, back in the hills of Tennessee, they used to eat possum pie all the time. My favorite is chipmunks too. Hey, it's just little... Well, actually, I think it's more fun when you cook them and roast them. That little cranberry or that little crabapple stuck in their teeth when they're laying out like a pig? But you have little rows of them? That's when everybody goes, what's that? Oh, don't worry about it, but they're quite tasty. Oh, it's a mini pig. There we go. Mini swine. There we are. Chipmunk chipmunk roast well anyway the point is when you're when you're using chickens the gizzard People used to clean the gizzard use everything from the chicken in the clock make clock stew. Yep Well, yeah that in Iraq Well, you know, an interesting thing about that on history, especially with regard to food. Does everybody out there think that the artist was just pulling dead critters out of his rear end and hanging them on the wall for still paintings? How many of these traditional oil paintings from the 1600s and 1700s have you seen where there's a string of birds and they aren't pheasant and they aren't quail. They're all kinds of birds. There's little grackles, there's a couple of starlings, well, we're grackle slash starlings. There's one or two chickadees hanging on that little string. There's a whole bunch of different mixed wild fruits and wild vegetables and some domestic ones sitting on the counter right next to the little dead birds that are hung on strings. Well, they weren't being killed for the fun of it and hung on the strings for the sake of the artist. They were on the menu and they were the next meal. Okay, so when we you know we joke what we don't know people don't think about that They don't really realize I mean to a degree because of isolation and again Americans used to know this but we got the new plastic ones that are having a hard time understanding the real world and how it works, so Just again keep in mind. It's not just for you. We got other creatures We got to take care of that are ours They're part of your responsibility, and you've got a you're not you're not gonna have enough dog food on the shelf It ain't gonna last forever So you have to start thinking about total use and total recycling Anything that's not used by the people oh and by the way with you people I'm gonna explain something else real quick Now there was an old Navy policy Daryl my dad explains to me But it was the same in any any household during the depression But usually it wasn't take all you want but the Navy's expression was take all you want but eat all you take In other words, don't have eyes bigger than your stomach. You can have more to eat, but don't waste the food. Somebody back home had to do without so you could have what you needed in the field. Now, I would go one step farther and explain that that is policy period. There isn't going to be enough food to go around when the time comes. Anything and everything you have, there is no such thing as scraps or waste off the table. with the exception of chew down bones which are then going to be handed over to fluffy and the kitties and Whatever might be something that's damaged or for some reason there was some spoilage and heaven forbid that should happen Because you will regret it as you lose more and more of your food reserves if you let that happen You're not going to have enough for what what you have to do to take care of your people So total efficiency is critical here and that includes game getting again a learn from the Indians learn from the trappers the trappers and the Indians both worked in the same culture the same environment they understood that well whatever you have is all you got use it to the best of your ability do historical research it will help to keep you alive in the long run you know Darryl as a matter of fact let's qualify this you actually specialize in a couple of areas but with reenacting you have a little niche right there that you're very familiar with don't you is how many people ask you when you're cooking a turkey over an open fire, is that a real fire? Are you going to eat that when you're done? And I say, absolutely. This is probably going to taste better than your best cooked turkey at one of your finest gourmet restaurants in New York. But there are many ways of cooking wild game. You can obviously boil it. You cook it over an open flame. Or there's a way that you can even bury it in the ground and cook it in the ground. The Hawaiians do that all the time at their luau. They wrap the pigs in wet leaves and put them in the ground on covering them, putting a layer of coals in the ground, then putting the meat in there wrapped up in wet leaves and then covering with coals and then covering that up with dirt to keep the heat in and then bakes them up just fine. You just have to leave a little air vent so that the air can circulate through there to keep it going. We've even, like I say, cooked the whole turkey over an open fire. We made pies over an open fire. So there's a whole niche that you can make so that you don't have to, it may be primitive, but you don't have to be bored to death as far as that goes. And believe me, when it comes to that point, you're not going to be bored to death. Anything that you can cook, right in case. It's going to taste just fine. One of the things I would bring up on that subject too is with regard to combat operations, I'm going to remind you when you are using food, especially when people become hungry, trust me. You'd be amazed at how attuned your senses are, especially smell. That's another element of discipline with regard to it. Now I'm talking about how bad you smell. I'm talking about the fact that all you have to do is open up a ration. and the smell itself is like perfume. Okay, it will attract people especially those who are hungry. It is me in fact the body your physical body responds involuntarily to a particular aroma especially When you are very very hungry if you if you get if you take a whiff of something that's been opened up like that The body you know I mean just they always go they always joke about what are your stomachs grumbling? Well that actually does happen guys When you're to the point where your body is normally used to a specific intake and it ceases to happen, there are certain things that change or there are certain ways that it responds. So keep that in mind that with tracking or with regard to being detected, that food is one of the many ways. Smell is something that has to be taken into consideration. You don't see it in a movie. We don't have smell-o-vision in the theaters yet. And God help us if we ever did. But the point is that it's something that is taken out of the factor and with trackers and with guides and pathfinders it has always been a consideration. Okay, that's one of the parts, one of the elements of tracking smell that's critical. Identifying food stuffs, identifying waste. Anything and everything is part of that particular area, that niche, with regard to being able to find out where you are and neutralize you as a threat, or hunt you down and take you out of the picture. Now, firearms, real quick here too, guys, because this is Weapons Wednesday. Of course, we're talking about a subject that is critical to why you have the firearms. One of the many reasons is food production. As we promised, if we could find a niche, if we could find something that was useful, I have mentioned Maine Military, as far as I know, they do have some 20 round AR-15 thermal mags. They have some 30 round AR-15 thermal mags, but I'm pretty sure they're almost out. Here's another company, Darryl, we've mentioned these guys before, but Sarco. Now guys, Sarco's a really interesting company. Really, if you ever go to the Shotgun News, don't worry about really, I mean, use their ads for references, but remember that their ads overlap over a period of many years and they just keep producing them or reproducing them and they figure that, well, somewhere in the warehouse, they got what they put in the paper, okay? I'm trying to find them right here, just had them in my fingertips and now all of a sudden they're gone. But Sarco has parts. I've had a lot of questions about armory tools. How much is left? Well, that's a toss of the coin, so I will tell you that right now. But Sarco has armorers tools for the M14, for the M1, for the M1 Grand, and one carbine. They have armorers tools and components for the K98 Mauser. Any weapon you could conceivably imagine, they probably have it sitting there in part form. So, listen up, here's a phone number. Get hold of them at 908-647-3800. That's 908-647-3800. That's 908-647-3800. Their website is www.sarcoinc.com. That's S-A-R-C-O-I-N-C dot com. Now these guys have been in the business for a long time so if you call them and tell them you need like an extractor or an ejector or a firing pin or whatever it is that's on your list of things you're looking for, they are going to be very specific about asking questions because they know that some weapons look similar but certainly are not the same weapon. And for that reason, if you have a carbine, don't be surprised. They're going to keep asking and trying to reinforce what kind of carbine do you have. And they're going to want to validate it because they don't want to have to monkey around with having to reorder or re-ship something for you. Or you saying that, oh, you messed up, man. You screwed me up. You gave me the wrong fill in the blank. So they have a lot of experience in the industry and understand. Now, one of the things, guys, that they may still have I checked with them the other day and they did. I don't know if they have any left. It's the FNFAL in Darryl. It's the whole lower receiver group for the FAL. You know, the trigger group, buttstock, etc., etc., all one assembly. And these are supposed to be, I believe, they're the metric, and they are, and they're running three for $269.50 or $94 a piece. Now somebody goes, huh? Well that's a chunk of change and that's not that much really. But what you're looking at is the whole lower receiver assembly which is a fairly extensive piece of equipment guys. There's a lot of good parts there. Now they're standard metric lowers South African with extra long but which means though for you guys with the longer arms it's a nice rifle package and Lower with the puts with the wood stock and I've just got the wood stock system Pretty much standard for the stuff that was coming in if they still have them That's not a bad price and that's the basis for building another weapon Some people say well you might be able to get the kits. No the kits are catch as catch can. They do list them but I doubt that you're gonna find many left because everybody's buying this stuff up to build new weapons. Now you got to think about this a nice way to pick up all the spare parts you need rather than having to fight and figure out which parts go on. You pop one off, you pop the other receiver on and clunk, snap, you're ready to go. Okay so FNF fails and again it's Sarco Incorporated. The website is www.sarcoinc.com. That's www.sarcoinc.com. Their phone number is 908-647-3800. And address is 323 Union Street, P.O. Box 98, Sterling, New Jersey, 07980. That's Sarco Incorporated. Now, others, well, other things, guys, by the way, what SACO has is too numerous to mention. Everything from recoilless rifles, mounts to 50 caliber BMG parts, browning parts, BAR parts, grand parts, bolt action rifle parts, rifle grenade launchers, you name it, it's anything and everything, and every nut, bolt, and spring to go in all of those and a lot more, okay? Other stuff, well here's again, we want to say thank you to our friends at Virginia Citizens Defense League and also with the Virginia militia in general. I want to say thank you for being such good hosts. We understand that you guys are meeting with the Carolinas here this week coming up. I will probably not be there this weekend because we have on Saturday a party on the beach, a party on the beach, a party on the beach on Saturday. So for those who are coming, going to be showing up, bring a couple bags of chips or a couple bottles of cheap soda pop and yourselves a notepad and also a pen and preferably other writing utensils. Why? Because we're going to be going over a lot of material this weekend as we can imagine. Now I also want to say thank you to Falcon Industries. Again, I want to say thank you to Falcon Industries for their donation to troops of the New Mexico militia. And I want to say thank you also to, because again, the equipment that was transferred over, these guys are doing a great job. Also to Lone Wolf distributors. I want to say thank you for the donation of parts. especially to the 28th regimental combat team, Colonial Marines. Lone Wolf is sponsoring a fire team, maybe a squad, I don't have those particulars in there, but at least a fire team, and they're providing a lot of extra stuff that's been laying around in the warehouse, so we want to say thank you there. Last but not least, if they still have it, classic arms, Darrell, has some 8mm Mauser, okay? Now, as we know, 8mm kind of dried up here. There is some that was released. It's 8mm module in the stripper clips, 200 grain bullet, and 5 round stripper clips. Okay? So keep in mind that that ammunition is available through classicarms.us. classicfirearms.us. Little Roman Centurion with an AK-47 is their logo, which is kind of cool. So if they have it, guys take advantage of it. The third wave has been stripped. They ain't a whole lot left out there, but whatever is out there, seek it out and find it. We're going to go to break. We're way past the break, by the way, bottom of the hour. So let's get to the break there. And what we'll do when we come back sounds like we have a few callers. and we will bring them up. This is the intel report. It's weapons, Wednesday, Daryl. Mark here, 43 radio. Wolverine Military Outfitters folks, this is wolverinemo.com. We specialize in ACUs, BDUs, and SDUs. MOLLE gear, tactical vest, armored vest, and Kevlar helmets. Custom camo fabrics and camo netting. All your flare gun and ammo needs. Parachute players, red rain flares, 50 cal ammo cans, ghillie suits, snow camo, Russian gear, German gear, Swedish gear, American gear. If there's something we don't have, just ask and we'll find it for you. So check us out wolverinemo.com, wolverinemo.com. Check out our site, it's updating daily folks. Mention Liberty Tree Radio for your listeners discount or just call us at 734-340-7285-734-340-7285. And ladies and gentlemen, this is the Intel Report. We are back, as a matter of fact. We're always talking off the air. This is live radio, by the way. We got Darryl and Mark, and we have, who do we have again? We got Marcus. Marcus in Georgia. Yeah. And Marcus, what's happening down in your neck of the woods? Well, one thing I wanted to bring up, fellas, Mark's always talking about information along with your weapons. One thing that we're going to need along with your weapons, looking around trying to get a custom topo map for my area. you can go to the USGS and order a catalog for free 1-888-USGS. United States, that's 1-888-275-8747. Guys, give them a call next Monday and get them to 6 free that you can go back and look at what maps you want to order. We have some good topo maps. If you can't get exactly what you want, that's not a company. I talked to a lady named Val. It's 888-792-888-921792 and their website is http://. Really easy. No www, just http:// is called map sports, map, no S, just map. And they can do custom maps. I'm not sure exactly what they cost because working up one for me from around my home here, but I want a detailed one for all the little nooks and valleys and hills around my house like I used to have when I lived up north Georgia for down here where I met here in Central. And the other thing is www.map, like cruising without the g, that's M-A-P-C-R-U-Z-I-N, M-A-P-C-R-U-Z-I-N.com. Okay guys, you can go to that, and if you've got a local town, say like where Mark lives in Dexter. He can go to that site and download his computer a top topo map free. And then you can print them like the little town near where I live here. I'm off the map though. But now I have a top map of all the little towns that's on that list in my area for free. All you do is put them on your property. You want to do it. But guys, get that information. You don't necessarily cost you the five to 20 bucks where it is for a map. Some of these maps are five or six ninety five. Some are seven ninety five. Some's twelve thirteen. Whatever. depending on what you want. But the free ones have that information and guys, the military had a map bag. This map bag is a central piece, especially if you guys are in charge of these teams, you've got to have maps. And Mark, you know what I'm talking about. The map bag comes with fliers, you've got the stuff to slide the maps up into. You can put them in plastic bags, laminate them. It's got all you put in your ruck or put it over your neck, you know, and you go and you can navigate. You know GPS is fine, but a compass and a good map and a good topo map especially lets you know what's going on. And guys also think about this. Well I used to live in North Georgia, I lived near the interstate, I-75. I went over to the interstate four miles away, my vehicle got out, if I could walk across their property, went along the interstate. I found every little culvert that crossed underneath that interstate and without being seen, there's nothing but poles slash killing fields. in the daylight or even at night and they're going to see you. Get your GoPro maps, look where the gullies are, go along the interstate and find those places you can crawl through or walk through. Not just where the rivers and creeks are, I'm talking to every nails guy, but also if you need to set up booby traps, 110 or little, just come out yesterday, come through, they know what those holes are in the interstate and that's where they crawl. So don't, guys, think about that on your roads and interstate and that's part of the Whatever they have finished, they have finished for the moment. They've been on the road because we just had another question. They have to pick up ammo cans this week and they also went down south to another site to pick up another bid that they picked up off the government auction system. So I haven't had any chance to talk to them. I know they've been driving crazy because, oh not crazy, but you know they've been driving a lot doing all the work. So I'll probably talk to him tonight. We'll make a point of grabbing him on the phone. And that, in fact, is right here. That's why we haven't put a link up to his site. In fact, he asked me not to until he gets that straightened out the rest of the way. The phone number is good. If it's not coming up, it could be because they are on the road. Right. Because that's his cell phone. Right. He's making sure that he's providing information right away. So the biggest problem has been they're just as busy. You know, it's the old story. One armed guy with 15 things to do. But he's getting it done and the guys are that are helping with this project are doing a great job they've already provided several militia units with a Lot more than they bargained for a lot more than they expected so I'm satisfied what the guys are doing It's just getting caught up because they're doing so much Sound good. Well guys well one of the thing mark guys if you want to push the site and you know how to find it If you're talking to somebody on the phone and you weren't dealing with these companies and they're not messing the movement But you hear their sound sick them to pbn.4mg.com and have them look up Nancy's detox formula and tell people, hey, it works. Because that's one way, hey, you're not feeling good, well I know something can't, of course, it's a way to build it or to make it cheaper than going to the doctor and being sick and dying. And you get them on the site for the detox formula and say, look, everything goes in there, the myrrh, all the different pepper, everything that goes in that, and bacteria and the little bugs and critters that they owe you. And people are like, no, you're kidding me, don't you understand? What did we do before those pharmaceutical companies? You know? And like I said, Mark, talk to free people today on the phone doing some stuff. They got it because their kids went to school and they gave them what? Them stupid flu virus, you know, live virus, whatever, a new updated not creation. And it sucked. Oh, they're writing it down. A lady called me back out in Texas. She called me back and said, so much, I found this information. I'm going to take him wherever and who are these guys again? I said out of Michigan, tune them up and listen to them. So if you hear me, he's from the map places interested in what we're doing. Now, real quick, like I said, guys, don't be scared. Go ahead, Mark. Before we forget on the thing with regard to maps, another point there is you said laminating guys. If you don't have a laminator, don't worry about it. Go to Kinko's, go to one of the shops first, get your primary maps all laminated. Step two is while you're at Kinko's or wherever you're at or whatever copy place you got, they usually have a color copier. Hey, here's an idea. Have your maps color copied. Even if it cost a few dollars to do the extras that way, the one thing is you've got another copy there that's accurate off of your master that's brand new that you just got from the, you know, the government printing office from GPO. This is another way to get around the issue of not being able to access enough maps quickly enough. And another thing that we've done for years, and I will tell every one of you, we're not the Russian army. You know, nobody in the Russian army traditionally with the Communists ever got maps. They got little line drawings and they were strip maps of just the area that they wanted them to operate in because they didn't want them to escape. Okay? Now in our situation we do just reverse. Let's say you've got some really nice color topo maps and you pulled them off. But you are, you know, either your inkjet or your whatever laser system you got or whatever printer you got, color printer costs money. Go to the black and white copy shop for a nickel of copy and crank out a whole bunch of the tapes, a whole bunch of the maps of your area of operation. Better a black and white map that you have to interpret a little bit than no mapping at all. And extras, like when we do training operations, what we'll do is we'll generate an extra copy of the map right there for everyone in their packet so that they have something to reference when we guide them from one tack lane point to the next. So that's a good point. The mapping coming up here, crank out all that you can. Go to all of your other sources. Go to your local parks and recreation facilities. They usually have maps. Go to your national parks. Go to your state parks. Say, hey, you got any reference maps? They usually have some goofy line maps that are minimal, but they're better than nothing and they give you physical referencing. Everything that you overlap in the way of mapping with helps. And if you don't have enough maps to go around, if all else fails, guys, get out of the truck stops, pick up a couple dozen of those road atlases too, because they're $5 a piece and they give you the basic grids and basic technical data. They support other things. Another thing you can find at the truck stop, they have these little quarter page books. They're one quarter the size of a 5.5 by, I'm sorry, 8.5 by 11 sheet of paper. The map is, we have them for Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, and I don't know how many other states. It is a little line map of each page, it's a line map of every village and dot on the map in Michigan. and they only cost about seven dollars and ninety cents a piece and it hit it for a reference map a quick oh here's the road grid for Schmidville here's the road grid for Dexter here's the road grid for Chelsea here's the road grid for Manchester they're all in these little handbooks that you can put right in your popcorn pocket and have with you as a team leader if you're a quartermaster if you're a mechanized commander if you have mobile infantry of any kind if you're going to use transport and you're going to be escaping evacuating mapping is going to save your life life because it's going to save you time. It's going to get you around obstacles, but you need to have it in hand. Anyway, I tell you what, Mark, is there anything else? Well, one thing about the copies you're talking about making the black and whites, you should make black and whites anyway because that's your markup maps. Right, exactly. Those are the ones you butcher. Exactly. That's your markup maps. That's the ones you say, hey, we're going to do this zone or this is what's here. New information comes in, you mark it up on the black and whites. and you keep it as your reference or pass information around. If you watch the videos on Liberty Tree Radio, and I ask everybody go and watch all of the training videos. Example, if you look at the medical video on there, that is a tack lane station. If you look beyond it in the video you will see the next tack lane that's about another hundred yards beyond the instructor when there's a back shot showing the group of people looking down at the instructor. Look in the background and you will see a small sign with a marker. You'll notice in several of the videos that we have markers set up. In the militia training video number two that's a music video, the way it was done. The site that you see with the tents in the foreground, that wasn't an encampment. That was a tax site for training. And what we were doing, what I do is I show people the different ways to set up the tents. Now initially that was a quick setup and then everything gets tightened, everything gets deployed, everything gets camouflaged if need be. But it's out in the open for a reason. It's part of the instructional process. Keep that in mind. So when you see a lot of this, understand there's a lot more. It's not just, you know, the simple, they just got through the stuff out in the video. Pay attention to your environment. Look at details by setting up these different courses. The next one, by the way, Marcus, the next one beyond that medical class was the mapping class that I gave. on the very subject you're touching on. So that give you an example. We do regiment things like this guys. We actually are pretty well organized in the field. Contrary to what the goofs on the other side try to tell you. All these people of these armchair characters that never get up off the dead butts outside of the room they're sitting watching the boob tube in. We actually do get out and do what we're supposed to do. And we've been doing this for many decades. So we're pretty good at it. Anyway, point is mapping, mapping and more mapping. Appreciate that, Marcus. Oh yes. You don't take my 700's knife rifle, okay fine take it, but I got three more to shoot at you. I don't think we're going to let them take any of them anymore. Well you understand, that's the joke. Exactly, I know what you mean, it's like yeah, don't worry about that one, that's the one that's close to you. Worry about the one that I have that was grandpa's rifle that will sit back at 300, 500 or 1000 yards and dot the I and cross the T. Okay Mark, let me let you go, I just want to bring it up about maps because it's very important and like I said guys, You can't employ if you can't get there. You cannot employ if you can't get there. Right. Half the battle is getting there. Exactly. And be healthy on top of it. Exactly. Thank you very much. God bless y'all. Bye bye. Bye bye, Marcus. Happy Thanksgiving. I have one comment on the maps here, Marc. Go right ahead. It might behoove you when you're doing the map search and trying to get these different maps. You might pick up a few topographical maps, 50s and the 60s. Because they will have a lot of roads and I'm finding this with the roadmaps and stuff that that they're putting out today They're leaving off a lot of dirt roads and road logging trails and stuff that can still be navigated Oh, yes, they will help you bypass congested areas such as different villages. Let's say that I have quarter master trucks or I have light mechanized armor like Bren gun carriers. I've got M114s, Victor 2 APCs. We build a Victor 2 now that's actually about the same size as the 114. It's all armored up. Well guys, guess what? Like I said, if I know where the tracks are, for the old train beds that used to run through the logging area in my county and they're pretty much still trails that can be passed. My pathfinders using the maps can identify and confirm the entrance and exits to these routes and they can be used as secondary road networks with virtually unlimited access and they're undetectable. There's no, it's not gonna be any, well, we need to watch this point and this point. Now we still have thermal signatures to We have regular roads are missing off these maps and they've also been closed. It's really bizarre. Some of them I don't know why in the county here. It's just somebody bought property or the county or the township released property. But we have roads that actually have been cut off that are just sitting there. Now they've overgrown at the entrance points and at the exit point at the other end where they were cut off. But the roads are still there and what's really cool is they have absolute overhead canopy cover. If you're a pathfinder, if you're trying to move a squad, if you're trying to move a supply train, if you've got to move armor, if you've got to move vehicles, guys, why not a road that has just enough space for your vehicle? By the way, your pathfinders and your engineers, their job is to go through and clear out just enough so you can move through. Not enough to... If you want to hide your vehicles too or hide your supplies, there's nothing like one of these roads with the, like you said, the natural born canopy and then use the camouflage veg to put over it. That's right. And especially when you have the overhead cover, the tree covered roads. They've been sitting there, they've been abandoned for 30 years. or 25 years and this is one case 15 years so they only have about 10 years worth of actual growth. In fact it takes years before the tree the road itself breaks down. So what you do is you go through with a you could go through with a brush hog or you go through with a machete you clear down as much as you need purely to move through because the more natural cover the better. And what you have then is a travel route that you can control and maintain. And road mapping, or I should say the old topo mapping, is what's going to get the job done. So I appreciate that. Thank you very much. Yeah, because if and when things break down, the last thing you probably want to be using and being reliant upon is the GPS system. Because if you make contact with the satellite to find out where you're at, you are sending a signal to where you're at. The satellite picks it up. Brings back and tells you where you're at and where you want to go Wait a minute. The enemy can pick you up and knows where you're at and where you're hitting Is that like the hunt for red october? One ping, one ping only, Yuri. Oh wait a minute. Yes, one ping. Ping! Hey there they are. Well there again, that's the other thing about GPS I've had people make comments and you know and fairs another thing about watching videos It tells me sometimes when people don't know what they're looking at Some guy made the comment in the Colonial Marine video, well you know those GPS units aren't going to do you any good. Guys, nobody's carrying a GPS unit in any of those videos. They are carrying a military backpack radio. Duh! Okay, so that kind of tells me, hmm, somebody who really doesn't know what they're talking about, doesn't have a whole lot of experience or a whole lot of memory bank there, okay? So know what you're looking at sometimes too kids, because we really really really really don't use GPS. I mean we have it, we can play with it, but we don't use it. In fact, the first rule is, I was taught this year to go in the military. Before you're going to learn how to use your weapon, before you're going to learn how to lead a team, before you're going to learn even how to basically do drill and ceremony, which of course we ain't worried too much about, you're going to learn to read a map. If you do not know how to read a map and you do not know where you are or where you are going, you are a useless tool. And land navigation is critical to being able to maneuver and operate your weapon to victory. No matter what that weapon. Your best GPS system is a good compass and map. Yes, exactly. And the battlefield computer between your ears. So compasses first, mapping first. If GPS shows up where you decide to use it to a degree, fine. But the other problem I have with that is my policy on that is A, tracking, which is obvious. They're going to use it for that. But also, if you did use it, how could you trust it? Don't you think with the software that they don't have the ability to shunt or to dis- you know, again, misdirect? I mean, if you were the other side, wouldn't you be thinking that way? I know they are. And if they're leaving roads off the maps, they're doing that on purpose, what do you think that, just like you said, with the GPS, what do you think they're going to do with the GPS? Yeah, walk you into an ambush. Take you to a place you don't want to be called FEMA Camps. FEMA Camps are us. Yeah, that's as likely as not. So again, we've got to be thinking constantly when it comes to preparation. And first and foremost, user human friendly technologies. Stuff that we make work, not something that works on us. Okay? And then works against us. Now I have one other thing here. I have a gun show coming up in Ashtabula, Ohio this weekend, the 29th and 30th at the Catherine Ross Party Center, 3116 North Bend Road, Ashtabula, Ohio. That is just off of Route 20, U.S. Route 20. Excellent. Go ahead and give that out one more time, please, Gerald. Okay, it's at the Catherine Ross Party Center, 3116 North Bend Road, Ashtabula, Ohio. And like I said, it's just off of Route 20, U.S. Route 20. And you are going to be there, so if anybody wants to meet up and say hi, then run Daryl down. Do you know what your table is yet? Uh, I don't know where it's at yet. sure, but the guy told me it is, I got two tables against the wall, and he said it's cold, so I imagine it's probably at the back wall, but a little cold never bothered me, and he so... Perfect. So again, if you get a chance, get to the show one more time before we sign off. 311, 6th North Bend Road, Ashtabila, Ohio, the Katherine Ross Party Center. number 29 and 30. Excellent. So again, gun show's coming up. We also have a party on the beach this Saturday. Party on the beach this Saturday. That's a warning order for everyone. We are at the top of the hour, second hour intel report for the afternoon. Darrell, God bless the republic. Death to the Lord Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We are on March. Hurrah. Thank you guys. Thank you, Darrell, for being there. You're welcome and don't forget to hug your rifle. Or many rifles if at all possible. Hugs left. The clutch of rifles. Remember that litter? A litter of rifles is really good. Thank you. Bye bye.