November 20, 2008
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Mark Koernke discussed the dramatic surge in firearms and ammunition purchases following the 2008 presidential election, featuring detailed inventory reports from Classic Arms showing panic buying across the industry. He analyzed supply chain disruptions, highlighted specific rifle and ammunition availability, and took calls from listeners including Marcus from Georgia who discussed barter economies and local gun shows. The episode also covered geopolitical concerns regarding Iran and Israel, urban versus rural warfare strategy, preparedness philosophy, and the importance of self-sufficiency and community resilience.
- firearms panic buying
- ammunition shortage
- classic arms
- ak-47 rifles
- dragunov sniper rifle
- second amendment
- gun control
- election 2008
- preparedness
- militia training
- urban warfare
- israel iran conflict
- cast iron cookware
- detox formula
- gun shows georgia
- supply chain disruption
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I broke my shoelace, I misplaced my comb I lost a dime in a pay telephone My girlfriend called me, told me we were through I said I couldn't care less that she'd found someone new And then I told myself It's just one of life's little tragedies Soon the memories will pass away Just one of life's little tragedies All they happen to us all every day I cut my finger and boy did it hurt I lost a button off a brand new shirt Let's see, my baby said goodbye today I can take her or leave her, that's what I- Wolverine Military Outfitters folks, this is WolverineMO.com. We specialize in ACUs, BDUs and SDUs. MOLLE gear, tactical vest, armored vest and kevlar helmets. Custom camo fabrics and camo netting. All your flare gun and ammo needs. Parachute players, red rain flares, 50 cal ammo cans, ghillie suits, snow camo, Russian gear, German gear, Swedish gear, American gear. If there's something we don't have, just ask and we'll find it for you. So check us out, wolverinemo.com, wolverinemo.com. Check out our site, it's updating daily folks. Mention Liberty Tree Radio for your listeners discount or just call us at 734-340-7285-734-340-7285. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat and speaking low to me he said, We've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations this legacy we gave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God, keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watching tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms He'd fought to keep what would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines and occupied territories West Southwest Central and Northwest Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we're on live 365. Then go to Liberty Tree Radio. We're also on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and ultra net technologies both east and west of the Mississippi, along with southern and central Alaska. Well today it is a beautiful Thursday. We're getting snow here in Michigan. I understand we're getting really get dumped on the East Coast. You might get some heavy stuff here. We'll see what happens. We're getting first red little bead snow and we got the lake effect. Now enough of the weather. We know that's gonna get worse. After all it's global warming don't you know guys? Global warming. That's why it's so cold out there. Al Gore always disappears. Of course now he's gonna disappear in Washington again. Well the parasite came from in the first place. Now I want to read something here. I've told you about the availability of arms first of all real quick classic arms is One of those companies that they're not the biggest one in the universe. They've been on the internet for a long time, but they've been on the sheets of the Shotgun news for a long long time a lot of you recognize a little centurion standing there with the ak-47 if you go to their site or recognize a little cartoon now Talk to the people today We've been kind of keep an eye on this but this thing was sent to us by one of our other friends. I want to say thank you classic arms Incorporated located PO box 125 Indian Trail, North Carolina 28079. I'm giving you the location and I'll give you the number. Their phone number is 704-684-0650. That's 704-684-0650. What do they have? Well, you listen to this and I'll tell you what they mostly don't have. And then I'm going to give you a few things on the list actually. The reason is because there are some worthwhile items that they got in that they just pounced on real quick and they took back to the shop. Otherwise, they hear nothing but echoes in the gun shop right now. OK, now, like everybody else, and this was updated for, and this was from Wednesday, the 11, 18, 2008 posting. Now listen carefully, and I'll read this as we go so everybody can hear what's going on. If you see it on the site, we have it in stock. If you do not see it, we don't have it. We do have some very promising leads on some merchandise that should be arriving soon. Some as early as next week. Stay posted, but don't hold your breath. And don't give up on us. We are starting to see daylight. It sounds like a war, doesn't it? It's like you've been hacking your way through the jungle, fighting your way from one end of the planet to the other. There are some important things going on in the industry. I know the following is wordy, but reading it may help you decide whether to buy now. Okay, here is the deal. This is their site. I'm not making this up, people. This is from their website. This is stuff they've printed in response to what's been going on. Now, listen up. Last week we sold out virtually to the bare walls. We had a ton of inventory laid in and stockpiled in anticipation of the panic buying that would be created by the election. It simply was not enough. If it shoots or holds rounds of ammo, it pretty much left here last week. I have never seen anything like it. Around Wednesday of last week, we changed our focus from selling to trying to beg, buy, and scrounge anything we could purchase. It was difficult. Most of the industry is either out, that's O-U-T, out of semi-automatic firearms, mags, and ammo, or they have pushed the price way up in order to slow sales and keep from being where we basically are now. sold out to the bare walls. The largest importer in the country as of last Monday has suspended sales of all of their high capacity magazines and raised prices on the entire classes of firearms by 25 to 40 percent across the board. The price increase is really irrelevant, however, as they have no available quantities on any of these firearms. Everybody hear that there? Now here's what's really cool. Mark doesn't have to make anything up, but I can give you a... they're actually thinking here. They're trying to give people perspective. Let me give you some perspective. In the third quarter of this year, July through October, we sold the following. 7.62x39mm ammunition. 361 cases. You've got to figure out about 400,000 rounds there, guys. AK-30 round magazines. 783 of them. AK rifles of all types and variants. 243. Now that was from July through October. Think about that, a three month window, right? By comparison. In the ten days since the election, we have sold, now pay attention here, 7.62x39 ammo, 1,218 cases, AK 30 round magazines, 3,855, AK rifles, all types, 572 in less than ten days. That is in addition to the AR rifles, Golani rifles, Tantals and other firearms that have also sold like wildfire and sold out. Some of our larger dealer customers have been attempting to place orders for hundreds of firearms with us when we only had dozens, read that, dozens in stock. We are very small and these are huge numbers for us. We would have sold more... I'm sorry, we would have sold more too, except we simply could not answer all the calls and then we sold out. The good news is we have had some success in buying. We purchased product anywhere we could find it without much regard for the price. It was all we knew to do. It was either that or be sold out, and listen to this, and close the doors. We are posting below the things that we have available for sale. Some other items will be coming on board over the next several days, and we will post them up as they arrive. The prices are higher. I can't apologize for that. In most cases we are paying more and making less. If you need these items and can find them for less elsewhere, I encourage you to get them. I hope again against hope that this market will level back out soon. But with bans and restrictions being one of the primary stated goals of this new administration, I just don't see it happening. Thank you for your patience and understanding. Now I'm going to read that last two over again just to make sure that sinks in. Now, we are posting below the things that we have available for sale. Some of their items will be coming on board over the next several days and we will post them up as they arrive. the prices are higher. I can't apologize for that. In most cases, we are paying more and making less. If you need these items and can find them for less elsewhere, I encourage you to get them. I hope against hope that this market will level back. back out soon but that with bans and restrictions being one of the primary stated goals of this new administration I just don't see that happening now thank you for your patience and understanding now guys They list a whole bunch of cool stuff here. Okay, this is the new list by the way, Don, I think you're here with us, right? Yeah. Now guys, I called them today and I talked to Lisa and she's a really nice woman. She's been there for a while. The owner, Don, is not at the store. You know where the owner is right now? Out trying to find guns to sell. He went up to Vermont. Now you got to remember the owner of the store is in North Carolina, guys. The owner went up to Vermont to personally talk to and to pick up whatever he could get his hands on from one of the distributors they've known for quite some time, which is nice. The point is, he should be at home at the store just simply calling and saying, yeah, I want a hundred of these, or yeah, I want 50 of those, or yeah, I'd like a case of this, or he can't do that now, guys. You know why? Because everybody else is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic too. Now light at the end of the tunnel. It's not daylight. It's a train. Yeah, let me give you an example here I'm gonna read some of these off now there are some good buys and they do have them here, but let me point this out They had now remember I told everybody about those Sega 22 inch barreled 308 rifles at center fire hat they're gone guys 44 rifles in less than a day, okay? That's just in one category, but they're gone. There's none of those there and the mags are all gone, too Here with and this is once again, this is classic arms. They had keyword had as of what this morning They had a whole bunch of these that came in in theory But they also just as quickly went out. They're all gone. And they were the Sega 236 Pro Hunter series. The 22 inch barreled version, Don, of the Sega rifle, of the baby Dragunov. Looks just like a regular Dragunov sporter, like the other Sega. But it was in 30 Russian. A beautiful rifle. If you guys see any of these and you can get them for a reasonable price, he was selling them for actually $419, which was not bad. He didn't drive the price up very far. I was being a gentleman there. However, too late, they're all gone. Now, what else? Most ammunition, all gone. Most mags, gone as quick as they hit. Like skillet, you know, water hitting a skillet. They have a few mags. They do have some 5.45 ammunition, but nobody has any rifles. Hey, do you remember how I told you about that, guys? Most affordable ammunition, still available. Problem is, try and find a rifle for the ammo. See where we're going here? Now they do have something. A lot of you guys have been asking me this for quite some time. Guess what? They have some Romanian TTC Toker of pistols. Now they're not bad for the price. $220 a piece. I'm sorry, but that comes with mags, lanyard, cleaning rod, holster, so it's actually a nice little package, okay? They do still have ammunition and they have not jacked the price, but there are these... she said I think they had a pallet left and that's it. They had many pallets. Give you an idea. 1950s ammunition, Bulgarian. I would assume it's corrosive, guys. You better think that way. 1600 rounds for $189.95, but that does not include shipping. Okay. They also have some CZ-82s, but the problem is they have no ammunition. They're beautiful little pistols, got two mags in the holster, everything's flapped, it's really nice package, military, but no ammunition for them, okay? And other than that, everything gone. Why what can we say about the rest of what's on the new list gone? Oh and gone. Oh and gone. Oh, oh wait a minute. There was oh, hey there Here we go. Now. This is one I want to mention remember I told everybody how many months ago about this one Remember those really neat looking Chinese pump guns that look like an 870 or a model 37 depending on which model? Yep. Well done. They had a whole sloughies come in like two days ago 149 95 apiece how many they have left 0. Yeah, 0. None, and but maybe they'll get more. They think they might. They're hoping. Okay. The one rifle that they have for the moment, for the moment, is the FPK PSL Romanian sniper rifle. It's the Romanian Dragunov. Okay. That's with the scope. It's the standard Dragunov with the Dragunov stock system. These are beautiful rifles in 7.62x54. They have no magazines and they have no ammunition, but they do have the rifle. Cost is $800 a piece. That's average price for those. But however many... One magazine with the rifle though, right? One mag with the rifle, so it's an excellent sniper rifle. I'd grab it, pick it up, and I'd drive tax for that at 600 yards every day, all day. Okay? However, you're going to have to jump around for ammo, which is going to disappear quick. However, another thing here, Centerfire Systems has no Dragonoffs, have no rifles. But you can buy this Dragonoff rifle from Classic Arms. Then you go to Centerfire Systems, they've got a 4 mag pouch. It's got the actual carrying pouch that's supposed to be there. 4 mags that go to this rifle 10 rounds each They're always been pricey 89 99 for 4 mags with a pouch for the dragon off. So there's your magazines. Okay ammunition, other sources guys, you're gonna have to go to JNGsalesamoman.com or wherever you can find it. I think Centerfire told me today they have some silver bear 7.62x54 so there you gotta go three different now two locations or three locations to get what you want. But they do have a decent main battle rifle slash sniper rifle package but that's it. Now Otherwise, they're out. And it's interesting, like I said, the owner is somewhere else. If you want to get hold of Classic Arms to see what they have, their webpage, let me read it off for you here to make sure Mark doesn't create any confusion, is www.classicarms.us. That's www.classicarms.us. dot us c l a s s i c a r m s dot us now there's a cool thing about that i'd write that down so you can show people what is on their web page because that's what i read to you was for two for today is wednesday eleven eighteen two thousand eight there's an explanation right there and it's a good reflection of what we see with the whole of the industry So you got to catch this catch Ken and find out what they got sitting on the shelf They do have some 7.62 by 39 by what I understand and they've got some 7.62 by 39 hollow point Russian, okay? So with classic arms Their phone number is 704-684-0650. It's Classic Arms Incorporated, BO Box 125, Indian Trail, North Carolina 28079. And their webpage one more time is www.classicarms.us. Okay? So anyway, just a reflection guys of what's going on. Otherwise, well as we know, the stock market got torpedoed. That's not a surprise. That's just what that is guys is the captain of the bridge He's hit full steam ahead Towards the torpedoes and progressively each one's hitting now and striking the bow and driving more water into the hull You see how that works. Yeah, that's what we're dealing with the economy. See nothing that have a surprise us there now Another thing talking to everybody else is there and I'm doing a lot of I told you so because you see a lot of these other people in the industry there's some that we talked to there they were kind of doing the standoffish thing and what they were doing is they were They're kind of well, I don't think well, I don't think well Maybe if things get worse in a couple of years, I might tell you to buy a rifle. Yeah, there you go In fact all these people that were all we can't do that now They're now they're starting to move their lips and you know what we tried to save you as much pain as possible But most importantly we had to save what you have in your wallet Now these people are telling everybody and it's it's it's late late late late late in the game Doesn't mean we aren't going to have to still, you know, again, we're going to have to pick and shop wherever we can to get scrape everything off the shelves because we do not want it in the warehouse. But here's the cool thing, guys, the very thing I was hoping for. If the bad guys were to run to the warehouse right now and try to, you know, go after the inventory, where is it now? There is no Concord and Lexington in that respect. Yeah, they can't go to, for instance, classic arms and roll the door shut because all they're going to hear is, playing in a big echo. That's right, you're gonna have that thump when the door and you might hear the chains rattling but that's it because there ain't nothing inside to lock up. It's a waste of effort there. Now, let me point something out. For every rifle, shotgun, or pistol that you see that's going through a gun shop right now, there are eight to ten privately owned firearms moving the exact same way. Now just think about the numbers that I read off here just a minute ago and remember something. We're reading this well, well that's only a, this is only one category for reference. 243 AKs in three months for this small shop, okay, for this, it's not that small, but they're being conservative. And then in less than 10 days, 572 of the same weapons. Now right there is 915 firearms in the hands of somebody else that otherwise would have been in a warehouse. For every one of those, There are 8, 9 or 10 other arms moving right now that are already Liberty Arms that are out there that people have been acquiring. And that's just one shot, Mark? That's just one little fingernail scratching of a shop, guys. And you know what though? Here's the thing. J&J Sales is a monster store. There's one. Cheaper Than Dirt, which of course tried, made some stupid comments. on the air with the ABC piece that I saw as far as, well, it's panic buying. This whole thing about panic, it's not panic buying. It's, you know what, common sense dictates that people are intelligent about purchasing. We know the history of our enemies. We don't need to wait and see what's gonna happen. It's kinda like gravity. If you let go of a brick, do you turn around and look to see if it's gonna hit the ground? If you already, when you released it, you knew where it was going? Yup. Okay, they didn't turn the gravity switch off. But looking for it can't find it though That's the point. That's what we're seeing here people have decided they know what the direction is how bad the crisis is gonna be The one thing that's happening right now though guys, I hope you've noticed this, ABC when they did this piece and they're trying to, they're throwing out every anti-gun piece they can. They have been told, if you've ever watched this, we've had a lot of reports on this over the years where people have been honest, if they want to attack a subject, all of a sudden that subject is there in your face every minute, every minute, every second, every other story has to be anti-whatever. In this case it's anti-gun, anti-gun, anti-gun. Guns are bad, guns are evil. Well of course they're trying desperately to intimidate or manipulate weak minds. And the problem is this. There's a whole lot of people that it's too late. They're already beyond, they're not on the fence anymore. You're not gonna nudge them back over to the middle and you're not gonna convince them that they just need to lay over on their backs and let you kick them in the slats. That's done. But they had this gun control freak doing this. Well, I don't know why everybody, and I don't know how many people out there saw this. He goes, well, I don't know why you, these people are getting so upset. The Supreme Court just had this ruling. Now, do you remember what I said about the Supreme Court BS? It's about 700 pages of blah blah blah when it needed to be like... three sentences and one paragraph. That's right. So it's a lawyer's paradise, number one, for all kinds of litigation forever, and that's all it was for. And the other purpose, people, was to try and placate everybody and turn them into brain-dead molds until the time came to overrun the house. And as I've said, a lot of you listened and everybody was paying attention. We all know it's a lie. Look where it came from, Washington. So in fact, these are the same people that just sold $700 billion and just walked away with it. Same group, same city, all the same turds, okay? So from the one end, you've got them doing the go back to sleep. Go back to sleep. Look, we need to catch you off guard. You need to be brain dead when they kick the door in. You need to be brain dead. Now you got them desperately putting these talking heads who are anti-gun. yapping about the oh you've already been given you know like oh this ruling from the Supreme Court like that's ever stopped them from violating the law if even if that was real think about it when the so well Roosevelt and the shotgun And he overturned that within a week. That's right. The president overturned a Supreme Court decision, didn't he, Mark? The Supreme Court ruled in favor. In Miller v. U.S., the original case, guys, when that went through the Supreme Court, the guy did not show up for the case. The Supreme Court ruled in his favor. Then, seven days later, FDR came in, bullied the Supreme Court, and told them, no, no, overturn your ruling. And the Miller versus U.S. that they always use, the anti-gunners use and have used for years, the reason they don't want to talk about it is because if you ever do any research, you find out that the whole thing was manipulated. And you find out it was a complete lie to begin with. In fact, even the reference of the US, they said, a shotgun has no military application. Well then we better go kick the army in the hind end because they bought so many Model 12s and so many Model 97 trench guns you couldn't count them all. And some of you have grandpa's 12 gauge that came back from World War I. They're buying a car right now with about a 10 inch barrel. They use them to knock the hinges off the doors before they go in, you guys. Great door buster. So think about it. 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She just told everybody I'm ready to go see my lord. Hey ladies and gentlemen we are back. This is the Intel Report Live. It sounds like we have a caller. We have... We have Marcus from Georgia. Jump right in there, Marcus. Hey, Mark, that rifle you brought up, that Romanian sniper Dragonov. Yes. What you didn't happen to mention is for that $700 and a $799.95, 800 bucks, it actually comes with the scope, the scope rail. two ten round magazines, one of those four pocket mag pouches, a sling clean kit and oiler, and it says oh by the way and our appreciation. Excellent, okay that's what we need. Anybody, did you call them? No I didn't call them, it's on the website. They ask for every gun, that's what they have, a kit. Very good. That kit comes with a gun. Now that's, I didn't know if it had one or two mags, that was the only thing I didn't see and I had a chance other than just talking to them there. I think Leslie, I think Leslie's by herself right now, although she might have somebody else helping her in the shop I'm sure. But if you give them a ring, in fact give them a call to find out more about whether or not they have those dragon elves still in stock. They do not have the ammunition. That I confirmed because she said no we don't have the ammunition for those but we do have the rifles for the moment That makes that at least an accessible and their beautiful rifle I mean guys that's the one everybody always dreamed of picking up on the battlefield come on You know wow man, would you find who got a dragon off man? What no way? Yes way with the scope and with everything all the fixtures like you said are there I had noticed that it's got the scope and the rail mount It's now I didn't look at the model. Remember some of the Russian scopes are passive night vision collectors So you have to take a look at the model I would you know, you never know because you never know what they got in the way of surplus But the cool thing is that that is an excellent combat rifle. I would pick it up. In fact, I would prefer it Maybe parallel with the M14 as far as for performance. I know it's not quite the tack driver the M14 is, but she's a nice rifle and it'll work just fine. Several other companies, I know Amelmann as of yesterday, forgive me I did not check today, but Amelmann had some 7.62x54. So they may still have some inventory. If you were really thinking about that drag it off, I would double tap right away. I'd put the money on the rifle and I'd be calling on the ammo in the next second. In fact, I'd almost have to check for the ammo first and then decide whether or not that would be the direction I'm going to go. But those are a beautiful firearm and if they got the pouch, Center Fire System sells the mags separately also, but I'd get a complete, here's the thing, I'd get as many mags for that as I could now. Because eight mags for that would be really cool I get enough spare mags to fill up the mag pouch if it's a four-man or four mag pouch that they that they saw with a rifle and I get another full four mags because hey eight loaded magazines, that's a whole lot of firepower for a 7.62x54 rifle and There are others there are a few other places where there are mags laying around for that But they're in odd corners and they may already be out and I haven't even checked go ahead Marcus anything else Yes, sir One thing I was going to say about ammo, today one of my other team members here in Georgia, he made some of that detox stuff that you all have on the website. Oh yes. And he ordered some things, whatever, and I traded, he needed ammunition. I wanted some of the ingredients. So guys, it's called a microeconomy. Equitous macroeconomy stuff, that's what got us in trouble. If you've got cases of ammo and you need something, case open, guy needs ammo, he's got an AR-15. Give the man some ammo and get what you need from him y'all we need we got to take care of ourselves Can't all hoard the ammo we can't all hoard different things We all got different skills and different needs find out what each other needs and horse trade They nothing wrong with it. We still keeping everything inside the group spread in the wealth as a Don was saying earlier weekend This market is having a gun show the land state farmers market Parkway office 75 everybody out here knows where it's at the weekend after The county fairgrounds is having a show in Gwynedd County, 85 North of Atlanta. It's going to be the monster show here a while back. It's going to be the Atlanta Echelon Jonesboro, which is between 75 and 85. It comes up and that's going to be December 6th. Guys, that show, if you want to come to a show, there's going to be people there and there will be a lot of what we call free the tables. There's going to be no 44, 73 is attached. Trade, worst trade, whatever. You will pick up some weapons with no paperwork. show come December 16th, Nichols and Dimes, the 360, 3650 Jonesboro, 50 Jonesboro Road in Atlanta. Definitely gonna be, it's gonna be a big show, $18 to get in the door. That's a nonprofit gun show. They don't care about the NRA. Even though I'm a life member, they kiss my butt. If I'd spent so much money years ago when I was a kid in the military, I never would have, because they did nothing but screw it. So out here guys, look them up, www.gunshows.org. these gun shows right here guys, look to search local gun show, support it and look for them liberty arms, buy more ammo. And Mark with that, I'm going to back one out. But guys, also think about if you're looking for work, why don't you do this form of the Mark and Nancy's got on their website, get this detox formless for making it, and people are coming down with this fluid. If you got to, make your money back by making a little side income. Do you have a problem with that Mark? No, not a problem. Actually, I'll tell you what, one of the things about that detox formula, guys, that has worked with every bug that we have seen now. And what's interesting is everybody argues that a lot of these have been thrown out by the bad guys. I'm going to tell you something. There are a few exotic items in there that, well, one of them is myrrh, as a matter of me, no myrrh gum. The myrrh is as old as man's knowledge of the pharmacopoeia for health. Mer. It's good enough for Jesus. It's good enough for us. That's right, exactly. Frankincense. Frankincense, golden mer. Yep. It was considered just as valuable and sat next to gold. Think about that. So it had a value that people understood who were in the know and it still has that value today but how many people are informed of it? Ah. See, so I don't have a problem with that because and once they realize that there's a possibility again You're not gonna stop what's happening. You know you get you contract something Then you have to deal with it the idea behind this is that it eases a person's pain it creates comfort It eliminates the possibility of debilitation, but would have been much much longer So that's a critical issue there. The detox formula is out there in the public's eye on the website for that reason. We need the copies of it spread to the wind also. Every one of you listening in the chat room, everybody listening on the programming right now, needs to get a copy of it and have it sitting in their library printed out ready to use. Better still, exactly what you're talking about doing is make it. Because it can sit there... Seriously, make it sell it by the pints of people, wherever you want to sell it for. Because the team member that I was talking to today, he's already at work there. He's in a secure area on a base up there in the Marietta area. He's starting to give it to people and they're getting well. Yes. And they're like, what'd you get this from? Don't worry about it. I'll sell you some. Yeah, try this and see what it does. Yeah, try it and see if you like it. And if it works, come back and I'll sell you some. Guys, this is not snake oil. Have an arrow pepper. Exactly. Don, I know you know for a fact. Yeah. stuff about make oil because old pictures it got out calling and go back a pinch it get those as you know the curry the spices and the murder keep all of the pension with the iron age because of a i mean it killed every can't replicate it right there if you get a cup of nancy got that i'm exuberant you can't take the baklaudial which is not bad for you but why do you think rich people had silver spoons and the poor people have pewter That's right. And the rich people didn't get sick. They didn't have any of the problems. Use silver plates and silvers. Illuminating most of the viruses and bacteria right off the bat before it could even get to you. Exactly. Plus you're ingesting it. You know Americans run an iron deficient? Why? Because they're cooking on Teflon. Exactly Don. Yeah, well actually we just you know that's one of the thing well of course we know how this gonna work guys We have a wide range of tools at our disposal don't let anything get away Ironware especially at the yard sales or whatever if I have seen and you know how many this is what really gets me You know two of the big Dutch ovens we have we're out by the road because somebody was throwing them out for scrap. Oh man I know I'm not gonna complain because we have two of the five I mean I could not go out and afford to buy the one I get the one We got the other one for $3 at a yard sale because it was heavy iron. It was so terrible. You know, it's like cool. So, you know, I'm not the cook in the family, although I can cook and there's things that I do and Nancy, she can run circles around me. But the thing is that if I see something like that, I perceive those as tools. Better to have too many than not enough in the toolbox. Yeah, that person that complained about weight probably doesn't know about my group of motorcycle buddies. We moved one of those. on a motorcycle more than once. Take it into the woods and we ate good more than once. Hey Mark, I want to remind people if you all find those things and they haven't been cured yet, learn what you got to do and cure them because if you don't you can't cook on them. Right. Yes. You got to cure them people. So get your cast iron, it's good for you. You can wash it with all that, rinse it off, it's good to go. You just got to worry about it. is really not that bad for you. Well, I won't be able to, brother, we're going to be traveling. You'll be on the road, okay. Well, that's not a problem. Yeah, I got a funeral to go to. Oh, I'm sorry. Well, again, if we can, we'll make sure we keep everybody abreast of this. I would ask anybody and everybody that can make it to these gun shows, guys, it's like the gun shop. You don't go there just with bare hands. Take in the how to find us sheets, hand out the information everywhere you can, and don't be bashful. People that are walking in there right now buying anything they can shoot are looking for knowledge. They are hungry right now. They know something's wrong. They know more than something's wrong. They know exactly what's wrong. And the other side is counting on everybody thinking that they're alone. Except my problem with that is, guys, you go to the gun shop and look around and ask yourself, do you look like you're alone? Okay, think about that. That's one of the things that gets me about this propaganda stuff. the whole idea, oh it's funeral and resist, and you are all by yourself and nobody's thinking what you're thinking, well let me point this out, I just went into town here, oh boy, about two hours ago, I don't have any how to find the sheets because everybody asked for one. and actually what's funny is there's a bunch of kids right now probably listening I just walked right up and gave them to and hopefully they are and hopefully they know that you are not alone there are millions tens and tens of millions of people right now who all understand where the threats coming from to this country and they understand that we're heading into a war. That's all there is to it. I think our soldiers, they know this too, the bad guys, one of the things they're pushing, oh the Iranians have a nuke this. Well that means, here's the thing, when you see that, and I guess I'll qualify this, if you hear some jack-booted thug on national television or a jack-booted thug employee telling you all about the Iranians having a nuke and they start rattling this off over and over again, the Israelis are gonna nuke the US. Do you see how that works? That means the Israelis are getting desperate and they need Israelis. We need to find the scum and we need to hang them if we catch them. But we don't hang them until we know who it is that helped to get them into the country. But it will be the Israelis dropping something here or driving something in or sailing something in. I put my money on the sailing part. I think a lot of people walk out the scenario here. Costco runs all of the shipping container survey sites outside the US that are centralized. No American is allowed to see what they're looking at. No Americans allowed to monitor the equipment. The Israelis and the Chinese have worked together for years. Whatever they get from the US, the Israelis, they immediately hand over to the communist Chinese as they've always done. They sell it, they're prostitutes, okay? Any American spy secrets, anything, they sell them right to whoever the highest bidder is. That's the way the potlickers are. Now, they have a cooperation. The Israelis, one of their dolphin subs or whatever, brings the nuke across. They put it in the container that they want to put it in. They sail it into the harbor that they target. It either gets fragged in the harbor because it doesn't have to be on the land, guys. Or, it hits the container. Remember, it's already been radiation surveyed back by the Chinese out there in the Caribbean. That's where it is. So when the Chinese turn a blind eye and let them bring a nuke in, Wherever it sets it either is going to be right there in that that hard bridge or they could move it farther inland But that's not really profitable. Okay, that's dangerous because with every move it becomes more likely that somebody by accident may detect it So it's going to be an Israeli mechanism. They could go a little farther I mean they could be more bold and just bring it in themselves, but I don't either they're always like to use subterfuge The container process means that they can technically wash their hands of it. You see how that works? They can let go of it. That's right. So, if we start to hear, and we've already been hearing this, we had some friends calling and there's other stuff going on, I've had the news right now. They're whipping it up while the economy's sinking. Now, that gets into something else. I don't know if we're going to take a break. I don't think we are going to take another break from now. This is good. Another thing I'll tie in with this, and this is something that's jumping out at me. It's like the whole thing with them trying to develop and focus everybody and boxing everybody into a condition as far as how we're gonna fight. Yeah, the next war is gonna be urban, the next war is gonna be urban, the next war is gonna be urban, the next war is gonna be urban. Why? It's because we, well, the bad guys have all trained to fight an urban conflict. What happens if we're diversified? We don't fight the way they want, where they want. Uh oh! That changes the whole world completely, doesn't it guys? You catch the column out there in the countryside rolling down the expressway, you stop the front two and as the second, third, or fourth truck wants to come out into the next lane, you stop him two. And you see how that works, you guys? They never get to the city to fight where they want to. You fight where you want to. And here's the thing, you go from the city to the urban to the rural and right back again through the whole process. Guys, that's the mark of a diverse warrior that is able to fight under the conditions he chooses, not the conditions and parameters the enemy tries to set to keep everything boxed in so that they can narrow things out. But here's the reason for the urban warfare issue. It's Hebrew Lightning slash Urban Warfare, guys, for the sake of urban renewal. Think about it. It's like what happened with 9-11. You've got all these cities that they want to frag in one form or another because they're either going to be able to write all this square footage off, destroy a whole bunch of technology in the process that otherwise they'd have to pay to have gotten rid of. And think of all the things that fall in line with that, why they want to try and frag the cities. Also, it works with the technologies they've developed. What happens if we don't let any single environment limit us? I've always trained our troops actually to go to transits from field operations, in other words, working through the field operations, into metropolitan areas. Fighting in the metropolitan area hell we've trained just as heavily in house-to-house operations and defense in house-to-house operations as We have in field combat operations, okay, and with that in mind. I think Ed wants to say something real quick there, too Well, yeah, we got these idiots on YouTube where they don't know how many people have seen that video about the guy saying Well aren't you gonna come protect me in the city? Yeah, I know done anything to get ready. You need to come protect me You're all training out in the woods. How are you gonna protect me out there? Right and my problem with that is you know what? It's a good thing Ed brought that up because that's something I didn't want to touch on but there's so much going on and so many direction But we need to review this number one Why am I gonna go in this is the welfare state mindset? I'll go back to something I've reviewed and talked about for years earthquake in Japan Everybody's in their houses, they all go outside, and then afterwards everything's safe, the earthquakes are done. Everybody's sitting out on their front porch and here's this mama-san and two or three other people sitting there, and the government didn't show up the first day. Did they do anything for themselves? No. Why? Because they've been conditioned to wait for government to do for them. So the second day they didn't show up, where were they still? Sitting on the front porch. Well the third day the news crew comes by and they said well what's happening? Oh the government not show up. Well those buggers they were supposed to take care of us They were supposed to do everything and it's like there's a classic example of a parasite socialist mindset Everybody else has to do something for you Well in this other idea that the people in the country have to bail out the people in the city is another thing That's on that one YouTube video, and it's like um hello. We prepared We live in the country so we train to fight in the country. Right. And don't get me wrong, there are people who live in the city who train to fight in the city and plan to stay there. The only thing is it's like it's not as exciting for the training because it's a little harder to do live fire training inside a city area so they use airsoft. Yeah, Marcus, you've been to downtown Atlanta to do any live fire training lately? I'll be back during a Rodney King ride. You see what I mean? I'm serious. With my 9mm Browning High Power, I got a custom power and it's Algonactive Duty and we had those riots and it saved my ass. Yeah, no I... Riots in the city guys are no fun. Oh no. No, that's exactly the point. To train for the event, you're still going to have to be somewhere else other than the city because not many people like you to use your high powered rifle squads downtown for practice. And if you'll notice, if you... No, I mean, I had a branding high powered 9mm mark with 114 rounds of ammo. And that at least kept you alive. Yeah, I had two 30s, two 20s, and the 13 rounder with one in the tube for 114 rounds. And the cops freaked out because I was carrying more ammo than they were. Wisely so. Well here's the last active duty of the time and I'm here to tell you I was coming back either my government car my uniform. Well one of the things that gets me about this whole this whole situation these people are saying what are you gonna do for me you know what I have trained in the world do nothing for well I've been trying to do something for them we've been telling them to get prepared and tell them it's coming if they haven't done anything now and they can't find anything There's nothing we can do for you. We tried. Right. They have the same amount of time in life that we have, if they're living today for this 24 hours, they've had the same 24 hours that Marcus, Don, Ed, and Mark have had in all of our listeners. Now each person has chose their path. Now the other ones want to eat, drink, and be merry. Why is it I'm supposed to expend more of my life's time so that the goofs can sit on their arse and then wait for, well why aren't you jumping in front of me? You're out of your mind. I will help you if you are helping yourself. We will stand together. See I don't have a problem with that and by the way we do take care of the women, the children, the and the elderly except I'll add another one, also the infirm. Right now, I'm not going to mention any names, but we've got allies right now working on specific issues with regard to chemically protecting our dependents that are infirm or incapable of taking care of themselves from nuclear, biological, and chemical threat. And we've had many of our people who have stepped in and done this in the past for family members who have been completely incapacitated. And I can tell you what I think are some fantastic stories demonstrating the ability of our people to improvise, adapt, and overcome. So we're not leaving anybody behind. But in the same breath, you know, we've had training operations where we've had everybody from infant in arms to men over 70 and 80 years old participate in exercises. Do you want to know why we did that? I had several mission guidelines and one of them is you're going to have to move dependents. How do you do it? So we actually deployed 70, 80, in one case 129, 130 people to include all the women and children. And then everybody found out what kind of a situation it is to move that many people with many different abilities or you know the lack of ability to move quickly. Sadly enough, this was sad for our teenagers, some of the 70 year old men could move twice as fast and were able to be actually were point men by the time they were done. They were doing a better job than the kids were. So we don't leave anybody behind that is our first rule But I'm not dragging you along while you're gonna sit there chewing on my leg whining about how the house got burned Whether it's the skillet or your gun, where's my where's my daiquiri? The thing is we choose to be free they choose to be slaves guess what I'm gonna use slaves for I got a shovel, he started digging, sir. Exactly. You build some breast works. You might eat. You go be the bullet catcher, you're walking point, and I'm not giving you a loaded weapon. I'm going to give you a sharp stick, like Ed says. Give him a sharp stick. Absolutely. Not even a sharp, you give him a better night look for booby traps. Yeah, that's good You give them a butter knife if they're smart they can turn it into a steak knife and from there They can upgrade their weapons progressively Exactly I think mine clearing is kind of interesting only because either they put their fingers in their ears or if you're lucky you can give them a couple of cotton balls before we go to break we're talking about Israel getting ready to go to war with What was it Iran? Yeah, they're yapping again today. Yeah, well, you know what that's kind of cute because remember what we said whenever they want to go to war you see a propaganda movie come out Well, there's a new one that's out there and they've been putting ads for it up on our YouTube not our YouTube page But our live 365 page Defiance, it's got the guy who's been playing the new James Bond in it. It's about the Jewish underground during the No, yeah during the executions And them leading them off into the woods and trying to deal with that many people. It's a sympathy piece to make you feel, all the Jewish people, they've just been so persecuted, we can't do anything to them because they'll just look bad. Right, because after all, it's okay if you do that to the Palestinians and think something happened to them. I was kind of waiting for something like this to happen because usually, like we say, when something like this comes out, sure enough, they start bolstering, we've got to go to war. Right, we got a fight and die for them How can you tell when they've done something bad or something wrong when the Israelis have done something wrong? Hollywood has to put out one of the Holy hoax movies anyway one or a remake of whatever they've done before if you guys want to see the trailer for the movie the name of it is Defiance you can find the trailers on YouTube and through a whole bunch of other places Again, it's basically Jewish militia, which oh my god, how dare you use that term, but yeah, it's the militia saving the ordinary Jews. It's a group of guys who lived in the woods who decided to take revenge against the Nazis for what they did to their parents. Of course, that's that whole revenge thing, which is only okay if they do it. Otherwise, you have to think twice. Wait a minute, I don't think I'll think twice. How's that sound? I think I've already thought through everything. You guys all thought through this and figured out what we're doing? Oh, yeah. I think Marcus, you understand the program, right? Well, I got one for you guys. 83, I was over in Beirut. 85, I was up on the Golan Heights. I'm here to tell you, the Russians don't play games. Terrorists did not bother them anymore after they snatched some guy in Beirut there with some Russian professor and they killed him and his family. Well, they went in there and killed all the terrorists and their kinfolk. That's what we're going to have to do. Put them to the sword. Exactly as they plan on doing to us first. If they can, we've got to make sure we do it to them better. Thank you, Marcus. And ladies and gentlemen, we're already finished with the first hour today. Ladies and gentlemen, we will be back in about six minutes. It has been a very busy day, a lot more to cover, and we will be right back. God bless the Republic. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen, the after-hire is on the run. We are on the mark both night and day. Thank you, Micah's. 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