November 13, 2008
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Mark Koernke and co-hosts discussed the incoming Obama administration, characterizing it as a continuation of failed policies with recycled bureaucrats from previous administrations. They analyzed the economic collapse of Michigan and Arizona under their respective governors, drawing parallels to incompetent management. The hosts covered preparedness topics including spare tire storage and fortification techniques, firearm recommendations (focusing on the FN FAL, SEGA .308 rifles, and Thompson Contender pistols), and stripper clip sourcing. They promoted an upcoming training exercise in Durant, Oklahoma (January 8-11, 2009) and emphasized the urgency of field training before anticipated government crackdowns.
- obama administration
- al gore
- janet napolitano
- michigan economy
- arizona budget crisis
- preparedness
- spare tires
- fn fal
- sega .308
- thompson contender
- stripper clips
- training exercise
- durant oklahoma
- second amendment
- anti-gun
- chicago presidium
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There we go, I'll cut that out guys. Alright, you've been listening to the Patriot Music Mix live. It's Thursday, November 13th, 2008. And, yep, coming up next is the Intelligence Report. Real quick note, this Saturday we're going to be shutting the servers down on this end. We will be running remote server though. But we've got to take care of some technical problems here with the servers. We've got to do monthly maintenance. I was supposed to do it the first of this month, but didn't get to it. So we're going to be taking the Saturday out during the day to do that. Hopefully we'll have Oz here in the evening to do a live program. We'll find out if that happens. So just stay tuned. Oz kind of comes in and does his show whenever he can on the weekends or weekdays. So his program is live whenever he's here to do it live. Also, we've got the new Sunday program at 2 p.m. with Ardent Angel. Remember to check that out on the weekend. And of course, hopefully I'll be back Friday to do another live music mix, although I'm not sure. Depends, I'm pretty tight with the website work right now. Anyway, coming up next is the Intelligence Report here on Liberty Tree Radio if you're listening live. or enthusiasts survivalist the army navy store from your memory as a child is just that on memory but there is still one place to find everything from gas masks to ammo cans and find a cheap main military dot com get hard to find objects like real wool blankets for under 20 bucks canteen for just two dollars or trioxane fuel for just a dollar a box m-a-i-n-e military dot com with free shipping on items over a hundred and fifty dollars not including heavy items find surplus items for cheap now like 30 caliber cleaning kit for just two ninety nine in the world. spouse 12 shotgun, face, plasma, rifle, wait a minute, wait a minute, forget all that. Go to thegunpartsguy.com to build your own FN FAL. 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But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You vie permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. Keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children will be put. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God, keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? Well, good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is the Intelligence Report. I'm Mark Kornke. I'm Donald Betcher. I'm Michael Nasser. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we're on live 365, then go to Liberty Tree Radio for more information there, if you want to get hold of live 365. We're also on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and alternate technologies, both east and west of the Mississippi, along with southern and central Alaska. Well, today's date dawn is... Hey, it's 13 November. You guys just passed 8 on the Eastern Seaboard. Lucky 13. Actually, we had a pretty good day. It wasn't as cold as it was the last two days. We got a lot of work done outside wherever we could. Other radio masts, other equipment now anchored down firmly. The building will have to come down for some of this equipment to fall or get burned, one or the other. But either way, it's going to stand until we decide to take it down now. and also connecting some of the other frame systems and modifying some electrical here so that we get a little more power for station one and to support other projects. So again, busy day working on vehicles too. We've got a lot of stuff that we've got to dot all the I's and cross all the T's on when it comes to maintenance on the vehicles. and you should have if you're listening out there two spare tires per tactical vehicle at least two spare tires on rims go to the junkyards find some that doesn't look pretty that you can clean up get it for minimal cost clean it up put a spare junk tire on it and there you go you got your second spare but at least two per vehicle per tactical vehicle really should have more if you can start watching for somebody is getting rid of wrecks or get rid of other vehicles now in the freebies the metal storm is kinda slowed down with regard to scrap so it's a little easier to find older used vehicles if there any left laying around okay so you might find a match for the vehicle you've chosen I don't care what it is quarter ton truck half ton truck 3 quarter ton truck or vans. Another thing to remember if you're thinking, well we don't have another place to put it, position them tactically. Tires make pretty good armor, that's why a lot of people use them for back stops for their ranges. That's right, they go in but they don't come out. Tires remember are poly glass or steel belted but poly glass is another term for, oh that's right ballistic nylon type material. So gee, it'd be kind of nice to have more armor laying around, plus you can use them for other things later when the time comes. But if you want to set up fortifications, stack the tires up, bolt them together, or punch a hole through them and put a steel rod through one side and a steel rod through the other, like rebar, whatever you can get. A quarter inch, half inch, three-eighths inch, whatever. Find some junk laying around, drive it through, and then fill them with dirt. That's a hell of a lot of cover that you've got and pretty well guaranteed to stop whatever it is that somebody else is trying to lob in on you, at least directly. It is also important to remember the spare tires. Again, if you're going to be using them, if you can, get them out of the sunlight. Remember how the tire companies used to transport them and still do. They wrap them up. If you have a tire, watch for the old green sacks into the bigger ones and cover the tire up. put it in black garbage bags if nothing else. It will last longer on the shelf. There's a whole bunch of different solutions but the idea is we've got to start looking at strategic reserves here. In a military formation guys there are whole elements of the US Department of Defense which was the War Department that deal with batteries and tires. batteries and tires. That's all the guys do. Talk about a, well of course most people say that's a dull job. I don't know, we got people working garages that work on batteries and tires all day. That's all they do. That's all they do. But in this case the whole point is that especially if you have strategic reserve equipment and storage, think about how many thousands of batteries do you need to have on standby ready to roll so that you can plug the batteries in and start the vehicles up. Oh, I didn't think about that. Another thing, tires traditionally have a whole rating system in the military. You don't just toss them out until they're fragged and chunked. They're actually kept in reserve because a tire of any kind is better than no tire at all. OK? So spares, you know, if you don't pay somebody six dollars to get rid of your tires, if you have four tires that still fit that car and they're not blown out, that truck or that deuce and a half, whatever you got, then you put the tires off to the side in reserve. Again, better to have a spare tire than no tires. OK? Well, you can do a bunch of things with in this particular application, Mark, as long as the steel belts don't show. holes in them and go out and get some posts and put a post in the ground and get some while you're there get some cable and some cable ties and you tie. Now you start threading tires onto that cable too. You've got maybe five or six tires stacked onto the cable and you get a couple of your buddies and you lift the bottom tire about a foot and a half off the ground and you fix those cables at the top of that post with tires laid around the post. Now you've got a cheap dirt dirt cheap kicking punching post. Yep. And it's all plain and it lasts forever. That's how it works. Now, tell you what, real quick here, everybody's been seeing on the national scene what's been going on with announcements about individuals who are now being assigned to the next regime changes taking place here with the Soviets coming in in January. Now, Many of those Soviets are being announced and the Supreme Council of the Comdeterm right now has brought in, for instance, most of the old Clintonista bureaucracy. We know that Al Gore is now going to be the Chief of Staff for Biden. Wow, ain't that special. The change means nothing. In fact, as we joked and laughed about it, it's being proven out. There ain't no change taking place except the red and yellow banner I should say the yellow and red banner is being replaced by the red and yellow banner. How do you like that? There you go. Just an inversion. Was it Jackson that went back from president and went back to senate? Was it Andrew Jackson? Oh, Andrew Jackson was, I think, let's see, did he leave and come back? I don't think he left and came back. He was a president and went back to the senate for the rest, almost the rest of his life. That was a pretty noble thing. Yeah, the state... You know what? Compare that to Al Gore, you guys. I don't think he's very noble. This is what I'm asking you to do. Sometimes I ask you to compare an inch to a yard. Yup, exactly. Well, real quick, laying that groundwork, Mike, down there in Arizona, you gotta have a special governor, don't you? Yes, Janet Napolitano. If you recall, if you've ever heard of Oklahoma City bombing, she was the assistant federal prosecutor that was the big cheese. If you look at any old video tapes of her, she was always the one making the statements about what the federal government was doing. She came here to Arizona, became the attorneys general, and then she became governor of the state of Arizona. She served two terms. When she came in, they had a surplus of funds, a huge rainy day fund, and now everything is gone. And depending on the estimates, we're anywhere from one to two billion dollars in the red. She was over in Washington yesterday on a Begget bond asking for some of this money for the bailout. There has been a lot of floating around of what she is going to do. She is real tight-lipped about it. There was a bar publication, a nationwide lawyer magazine that was circulating around suggesting that she would be nominated. to be Homeland Security Chief and they've also talked about her becoming the Attorney General of the United States. So I pity the fool. that have ruined their respective states. Don't worry, you're not alone. We have them right here. Don, we have the Canadian Californicator, don't we? Oh, yeah, we got Granholm there. Basically the same pathway to notoriety or unsuccessful Gubernatorial. She was at first, Engler's Attorney General. A number of things happened while she was had law enforcement officer of the state of Michigan, Engler got away with a whole lot of stuff and then she moved into his position. Mike, is Arizona just by chance, is that a motor voter state? You know what I mean? You can register. When you get your driver's license? Yes. Oh, okay. The other day, and not to change it to you guys, but while we're, you know, testing how deep the water is in other states. Wait a minute guys, I don't think it's water we were thinking about. It stinks. Yeah, you're right. It's brown water. You're right. It's fluent. Yeah. We talked about the vote, not, you know, the Mexican-American vote, because if they would have said Mexican-American, what's the first word in that phrase, Mexican? And this is where I'm going with this, you guys. The Mexican vote here in America, how many of those votes carried Texas and Arizona and California and other states out west and maybe even in Nuevo York there, New York. I was just curious about that, Mike. I wanted to get that one out. But again, I think everybody is seeing a pattern here. Have you noticed that they come from the Bar Association as Attorney General or Special Prostitutors? and as special people they gravitate towards these other positions having no true management skills at all. And what's fascinating is going from, in fact the only way, what you described is what I've been arguing, think about, isn't it like a bunch of scabious vultures circling until they see that there is something available they can lay their talons into and they flitter down and they land on the carcass? Still twitching of course, the carcass isn't dead, I mean it's still a living critter, but yeah, they start chewing right away. And go for it, but I yeah, they're not planning on letting anything work They're just running it until there ain't nothing but leather and bone left Isn't that just what the parasite did down there now you say I understand what you're saying is that she's not alone Of course not just like the parasite here isn't alone Neither one of these in fact, you know the here's something Has anybody for all them think about how much money and BS money is spent on the controlled media? Has anybody sat down and taken and mapped out what money was you know what what the money situation let's say of Four elections ago what that what all the respective states? What was their condition say and well? We'll start with 1988 and then go to 1992 then go to 1996 then go to 2000 then go to you know you'll notice there's no discussion or especially in your own state Where they're gonna go hey, let's look at these graphs and charts and talk about money here They can't do that because in certain windows, especially in the latest downfall, you know, downward trend, the same names, the same institutions, the same critters from the same organizations, are the downfall of every one of these respective states, consistently, now gravitating to the federal level. Now, if they were so successful at gutting their states, what do you think they're going to do for the country? And while we have a P-brain in Michigan, we have a P-brain in Arizona, we've got other P-brains that have been pulled in from other parts of the planet, parts of the US, and these progressive losers are being brought together, people who have already destroyed their respective economies. to plug into the national and finish off whatever might be sitting there that they can rip off of the bones off of the you know off of what's left of the critter as it's still gas one or two more times before it drops down and drops down to death. That's what I see these creatures as. That's what I look at them as being. That's what they're laughing about and getting ready to do right now. And the thing is that half white guy that's going to be president, you know keep rubbing that in by the way, oh he's a black guy, no he's half white guy. In fact, everybody goes, he's a black guy, he's a white guy. That half white guy that's going into that office is one of these usual socialist parasitic stooges slash meat puppets who understands full well how much damage he's going to do. They understand this has already been mapped out as far as what they're going to try and do to the country and do to the American people. The Meat Puppet is going to follow through on whatever he's told to by the common term and that's what's headed our way right now, guys, that much. They plan on mass murders, they plan on stripping the country of whatever's left and coming up with whatever excuse through whatever fabrications to continue to arc APB their way across the country. But the characters brought to Washington right now, flitting from all these outer states, have already given you a vision of things to come. Michigan is the last in the country for credit rating. And guys, look at this. Don, in all directions, what do we have around us? Oh, you can't walk five miles in a straight line in Michigan without walking across a lake. Water everywhere. Fresh water everywhere. We have two peninsulas. That means that three sides of each of our respective peninsulas are covered with massive bodies of water that make up the largest single over-the-surface aquifer of fresh water on the planet. And the governor of this state fumbled the ball so badly with all the resources available and with total incompetence to put us last in the system with a mechanical-in-slash-industrial-based par-none Only 10 years ago 20 years ago 30 years ago 40 years ago. Let's go right back each decade It would grow it'd be bigger if we looked at the numbers to the point now where everybody's scratching their head and going what happened Well, there's another thing they're scratching, but it's not their head. It's at the other end. It's another cheek Okay, they're scratching their arse and there they really can't understand. It's like well Why is it not one to work anymore? I do not understand we have used the whip we have used the chain We have beaten it and the animal does not want to move I say we bite it some more and take some more blood That's the only thing they can come up with guys So again everybody paying attention We've got a storm coming here And I just point this out because there the problem is all these dirt balls are going to be in one place Now what do you think they're gonna come up with in the way of solutions? Because all the BS that they generated like a grand homes favorite line that five-year plan What was that five-year plan again five years? You'll be blown away Michigan was. What about down there in Arizona, Mike? Has your state been blown away? Yes, it is. It's gone. We kind of touched on this when we were waiting for the run-up of the program. Again, the defense of the governor, and I am not a fan of the governor, When she first came into office, we were on the plus side in the state budget. They had a huge rainy day fund. It's all gone, but we cannot blame it all on her. She had the right, the power of the pen to veto any spending bill. So if there's going to be any blame, it needs to be cast. It needs to be cast equally to the Senate and to the House of Representatives equally. We can't pin it all onto her. But you know, they They tell us that they got all this money and then they seem to go on a spending spree. We got a great big brand new football stadium where they played the last Super Bowl at. We got a hockey stadium. They completed that just in time two years ago for the NHL to go on strike. So it sat dormant for a whole year at a brand new baseball field. And they've spent about a one and a half billion dollars on building these football stadiums. And there's never been, historically in America, you cannot show me one public funded stadium, football, basketball, hockey or whatever, that's made money. Not one. And they never seem to learn, do they Mark? Well, my problem with that is where the head would get the idea to do that. You know, in the past, you know, why did they give them business names? Because they were privately run. And the idea behind that is, first of all, it's a sport, people. It is not critical to the center of the universe. It has nothing to do with governing this nation. But it's interesting that, and I'll give you another variation on this. We're going to go to break in a second here. But I'm here in Swisherville. Oh, I'm sorry. It's called, you know, I'm in Dexter. But there are so many for sale signs for all of the industrial square space, you know, through the, you know, the factories, storefronts, that we have so many that the signs are in every street and there's two or three or four or five of them on every street. Okay? Now, downtown, the socialists, the Soviets that have taken over are building their, the first time ever in Dexter's history, they're building a palace for the city hall, for the village hall. They'd like to call themselves a city, which is a joke. or they aren't doing it yet, we're still a village. But the point is, we've always used available space and run this village for 100 plus years. Now the socialists from outside have come in and they're building a three story palace for them to go into. Here's the problem with this guys, only the upper floor is going to be used for the government, which of course is all we needed in another building, right? Well, I've had this argument, you know, they had Dexter May... government up above from what because of all the the nonsense and spending that they're involved in which has nothing to do with really good government exactly but it's the thousands of square feet that they're going to put up and there's tens of thousands of square feet that have been sitting guys for 10 years brand-new buildings that still have never been rented that's how bad the economy already was okay before this latest wave hit us Anyway, we're gonna go to break. We'll be back in about three minutes here on Liberty Tree Radio. You got Don, you got Mike and Mark here on LTR. Collectors, outdoor enthusiasts, survivalists. The Army Navy Store from your memory as a child is just that, on memory. But there is still one place to find everything from gas masks to ammo cans and find it cheap. MainMilitary.com. Get hard to find objects like real wool blankets for under 20 bucks. Canteen for just $2. 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Hey guys, Mark was talking earlier about a Sega. Do not waste your money buying the shorter bolt. If you don't have a main battle rifle, give one with a real barrel. If you want a carbine, get a carbine, you know, AK and you know, 7.6 to 39, 5.56 NATO. That's fine. That's cool. That's wonderful. But don't waste your Miami short barrel weapon. But I do have one short barrel weapon that guys, when you go to these gun shows and you don't turn your nose up to it. They're called Thompson Contenders. Somebody's got an old frame set mirror. When the old model frame still fits the new barrels, you can pick up a three. You can pick out even in .308. If you don't have a .308 guys, they run around your AKs and your AR-15, never jam. Fire one round and you scoot. You scoot on top of it. Ain't got to be the best scope in the world. It's a barrel weapon, you know, a pistol decoupling that will take and bust high plates at a very long distance. nose up at a topscantender and you're going to scoot. You don't like the real accurate, you throw them in your ruck, you carry your main little rifle, you carry your main battle rifle. You've got your little tactical weapon. I mean, you're a strategic weapon. And I called Dave, 18 inch, he said he sold a few because you know, guys think it's the wow factor. Muzzle flash. He says the muzzle flash on 18 inch 50 caliber is about 6 feet. Yeah. Let's call the flamethrower Exactly off to the side. Well, you're trying to now you're blinded by the flash Plus your shooting partners and your team and you marked exactly where you're at with this huge flash Talking about and Don and others about the longer build of the 308 the same way 30-aught same way 21 inch 22 inch, Birmingham. He those things it knocks down before you have a little longer to carry but the whole idea guys is you might not always have the murder to be using or the quality you like and The longer barrel is more forgiving if you don't have it quite cut out or than the shorter barrel. Think about it. Now the most important thing and again I'll touch on this one more time guys. Right now Centerfire I know because I talked to the girls the other day they may be gone if we talked about it on the air we have a couple days. But the Centerfire systems has a handful of these Sega 308 rifles with the 22 inch barrel. Now that's what you want to go with if you're going with a main battle rifle cartridge go with a longer barrel That's why I had a big problem with the Sega 308 sitter 16. They got them so they brought them in with a 16 inch barrel Mark they did that on purpose. Yeah, it's a waste of the projectile guys I mean I hate to say it if you got them don't go oh my goodness I got to throw it away. No. No just hang on to it Put it on the show real hard hitter if you're moving down a hallway or clearing out rooms No, yeah, and again a real hard hitter and turn quick for a rifle What I would be looking at if it's a short barrel like that is start looking for a basket flash hider that can be adapted to it quickly. And there are a bunch of AK 30 caliber flash hiders that were built for the 30 caliber, you know, 7.62x39s that should be adaptable to that .308 Sega. But in the 22 inch barrel, you're going to have a minimal amount of exposed flash. You can still, I might still put a basket type. There's got to be a way to do it. We just haven't looked at it that closely because there's only so many of them out there. The one good thing is that of the Sega 308s, whichever you got, there are magazines available. So right now you can still get mags. The Sega's are about 500 a piece for the 308 with a 22 inch barrel. It gives you the length and that's a solution. Now you're going to still have to go somewhere else. They don't have any 308 ammo at center fire. Oh well, what's new? We know that. You go someplace else for the ammo, you got yourself an excellent MBR slash placement sniper rifle, but it has the ability to go not select, but to commit volume fire if you have to throw a few more arena rounds close in down range. You got a 20 round mag, you're able to do that. The Thompson contenders are just like you said, tack drivers, and I cannot stress enough, if anybody's got them, don't even think about selling them. One thing you can do with the Thompson contender, you can't do with others, guys, is you can change it to whatever caliber you want. Exactly. If you get something from odd calibers, if somebody's got a 33rd ammo and you've got a Thompson with a 3030 barrel, guess what? You're still putting bullets down range And the most important thing is you can actually have three four or five barrels that you could be carrying There are varying lengths, but in the light rifle calibers or even in the heavy They made it they put it they made a 45 70 barrel. They made 22 250 they make 308 300 Savage. There's a list that's so long. I can't list them all right here So you could find other barrels somebody's got one laying around pick it up I know guys that that's all they did was collect them and what they were trying to do is find one of everything available. Now Gun Parts Company, and I don't know if they still do, Gun Parts Company, which is old numeric arms, used to have Thompson barrels. You know, Thompson contender barrels. They didn't, you know, not they also have Thompson submachine gun barrels, but they had Thompson contender barrels. They had a collection, a chunk of them they bought from somewhere. I don't know if they have any left and the best thing you can do is call them to find out. But they did have again most of the regular calibers went quickly but there were a bunch of other odd calibers by comparison that were still available and again it's another barrel, it's another another caliber option. You never know you can start finding that ammunition when you may not be able to find other ammunition. So it's a plus plus. Nothing Mark is what's neat about it is if you've got to have a rifle and somebody's on it there and you need to slip around you want to be bulked up And you want to slip around and go do what you need to do and look and dress so you're not carrying a weapon. But you need to take out a target. Those are awesome little weapons. And I said no problem shooting a target two to three hundred yards out there in one and two, two, three, three, oh eight or anything. They work just well. Who's making a new barrel system out there? There's a new model? Well yeah, the old original contender, they upgraded it. Then it came out that they would call the G2. The only difference between the G2 and the old contender is the G2 can handle her kicking calibers, but the barrel still all fit between the two. Right, they meted out the receiver is what they did. Exactly. Then they came up with this thing called an encore, which is a rifle that's a much bigger weapon. Those are neat, I mean those are fine. My thing is, for something with a shorter barrel that can be easily broken apart, easily put together, the scope stays on top of the barrel you don't knock it off, hey you're good to go. And the neat thing is I one, two, three barrel. So you guys got three or where you got sixes, you want some shoots two, two, three. You have a two, two, three barrel they've got with the iron sights on it, sighted in. Put the scope mount on top of it, put your little power four by 32 or something on top of it. Now you've got a two, two, three, the scope, if the scope breaks, you pull the scope mount off, it would one shot even though it's iron sight. So like I said, you know, it's something you can carry in your ruck. that shoots something else that's a tack driver. And if you need somebody to make that strategic shot, hey, you got somebody with something that really is an accurate little gun. The 22s, you know, you carry that barrel. And like Mark Houston, about the 45 long colt. They got one at 45 long colt and 410. Two barrels, two calibers, one gauge, one caliber and one barrel. That'll make another barrel in three, five centimeter maximum that shoots 38 special, three seven magnum. at 3.57 to maximum all in one barrel. 4 Magnum at 444 Marlin all in one barrel. So guys look at those, if you got them don't get rid of them. If you think you don't need them send them to me. And the other thing guys we come across frames somebody selling. The serial number is on the frame that's the Bat Faggot if Mark calls them. But if you get it at Liberty, you don't have nothing to do with it but you got the frame just hang on to it. are very handy, little single shot rifle. It's also something you can hand out, like use it for a specific mission. And you guys know what I'm talking about, hunting loose missions. Sometimes all you need is that one shot and they're real accurate, it's because they're just that accurate. And they're very reliable and well built, they're robust. Now I've never had the ones I've got, Rick. I've got two old models that I had upgraded to handle the new barrels because they had my old barrels. But that's been years ago, that's like 19 years ago. Like I said, I still hunt with them. The only new thing I've ever gotten is the 223 barrel. I got a wild back, but I got a 17 HMR barrel. You talk about something about the 200 yards is awesome. That little 17 HMR is awesome. Oh no, that's a real flat shooter, 150 yards, real flat. In fact, they're even making rebarrels for the Ruger 1022 in that chambering. You can actually take a Ruger 1022, pop the barrel and convert it over right now. If you wanted to, what I would do is obviously... You taught the 22 Magnum Ruger 1022. No, I think... The 22 Magnums, that's one of their career. The 17HMRs, they had a problem with them. The 17... not 17, the 17 Mach 2, they called it. Is that what the... Okay. The little short 22 long rifle, they weren't working too well. If anybody's got the 22 Magnum, 1022 magnums, you can re-burrow those in 17 and still use the same magazine. Okay, that's maybe what they were talking about then because I've seen the article on it looking at it. In fact, I think he even had something in the shotgun news also about it. So I might look back at the one. Well, I've already did the research on that because I was looking at building one and the one that the two long rifles called the 17 Mach or Mach 2, those just aren't working well. The problem they're having with those is the case up at the neck up there splitting. cause the gun to jam. Well that would be again that's purely a matter than probably trying to cheap out on the thickness of the gauge of the material because that's something that they've had a problem with before even with straight 22 is because remember it's supposed to be the cheapest of everything cheapest powder cheapest primer matter and brass just straight brass case. There's basically two things that cause that headspace or too hard of brass not any other brass. But the other thing though is too the 17 bullet is 17 grains And with the powder charge and the bullet and everything, it wasn't enough inertial mass to also extract the shell out. So it's working as a closed bolt. Right. So it really just wasn't working well. Well, I won't say any more, but there are applications for something. It committed over to a bolt gun. Yeah, there's applications for a bolt gun. Oh, it worked in a bolt gun, fine, but the Ruger 1022 just wasn't working well. That's cycling. Yeah, okay, that makes sense. Right. Tell you what, we're at break, I know that. So we're going to just stay where everybody is. Because I know we're going to be leaving in a second to go to break Maybe not. Oh, maybe we are We'll be right back. This is Intel report. We got Marcus. We got Mike we get down and this is mark Intel report last break back in three Collectors, outdoor enthusiasts, survivalists, the Army-Navy Store from your memory as a child is just that, a memory. But there is still one place to find everything from gas masks to ammo cans and find it cheap. MainMilitary.com. 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And did I mention how much money you're going to save by turning down your air conditioner overnight? Please don't let another sleepless night go by. Get your Bedfan by going to Bedfan.com or calling area code 210-632-8280. Yes, good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. The evening, depending on what part of the world you're sitting in, this is the 13th of November, 2008. It's a Thursday. You've got Marcos, you've got Mike, you've got Don, you've got Mark. And we're going back to Marcos, who's got some information about some five round stripper clips for .308. Okay, thank you brother. Guys, the F&L, F&SAL M14, basically is the same stripper guide. And there's a lady named... You get one guide in 20... If you buy a daylight, the shipping handling is going to be Everybody shipping and handling has gone up. 6-1, 6-9. That's real easy. It's 1, 6-9, and like I said, you get a guide with 20 stripper clips and the FNAF is a 5 round stripper clip. The Vietnam era, the good and sturdy with one guide and 20 surrounds on stripper clips. And you can load a lot of mags just without one set, but I'd recommend at least getting a 3 or 4 set and the shipping ID, it might be less, you only order one, it's going to be a little more. And it's at North Ridge and they're in Calabas. road the Calibus Cali caller at 6-1. And Mark I'll get on out of y'alls way. Thank you, Marcus. Appreciate that. Yes, thank you, sir. And 661-269er. 2269er is the number two call. Get hold of Northridge and stripper clips for the 308. I'm sure they have other things you might want to check on. Petroleum oil and lubricant products, if you're lucky. Maybe cleaning kits. You never know what you're going to find. If somebody has 308 components, might have some of the support items for the M14. and other rifles that are US issued because they were dealing in US surplus mostly. That's a cool thing. So, 661-269 or 2269. Mike, we've got this training exercise. Again, it's critical that people understand to be prepared for what's coming up. We need to have the people get in the field. We've got the exercise. Where do they go to find out more about it in January? OffTheGridGirls.com, you can call ALFI at 580-916-5543, 580-916-5543. The site, OffTheGridGirls, has been hacked into at least three times and the only thing they seem to attack is the contact information and the dates concerning the meetup. That's going to be in January from the 8th to the 11th of 2009 in Durant, Oklahoma. Contact Alfie. Also his email address is Patriot41 at Hotmail.com. Patriot41 at Hotmail.com. Very good now. I'm just reading something else here real quick tie into the whole thing with training operations people We only have so much time left only 79 shopping days until the tyrants start to kick everything into high gear if they don't try something sooner So there's a time scale once compressing you're coming closer to that deadline date from one direction with regard to probable, you know possible threat the probable slash Well, eventuality is the term that should be used here, is there's a clock ticking that one way or another they plan on plugging in this nonsense. We've already got Gore back in place now. We're looking at Biden, who's a rabid anti-gun. Osama bin Dung, who of course generally hates anybody with a firearm. We already know he's from the Chicago Presidium. And with that being the case, the common term is going to plug the rest of the nonsense in. Maybe not a kind of sort of, it is going to happen. So, you need to train as quickly as you can or as often as you can to familiarize yourself with technologies, resources, the concepts of how to work in the field. Remember, what you're going to be learning at these training dates, you're taking back to your people. so that you can teach others. Your core training the trainers is what we're doing. Force multiplication is the issue. I know a lot of new people are listening right now. If you are within reasonable distance, I suggest you try to make it to that meeting, that particular training exercise. If you're too far away, well, you know what? There's public property and there's private property all over the place that you can access that's friendly. It would be a good idea to get out in the field and move around a bit. Get used to the idea of working as a team. Study the subject matter that's available. There's all kinds of data you can draw from. But the basic rule, let's go with the Vietnam era FM manuals are fine because they cover the squad, they cover the fire team, and they also look at the performance of the individual. Now before all the whiz-bang toys and tools that were plugged in like we see now that require lots and lots of batteries and hang up on everything if you throw enough fishing line from above, the soldier was fairly trim and fairly sleek in the field. Okay? Today we've got so many things they're going to hang up. The first time these people get into a tempered environment where they have to cross anything that's got any grapevine, raspberry bushes, or whatever, they're going to look like porcupines coming out the other end. Okay. Yeah, oh, ow, ow. Well, my favorite is where the night vision is hooked up on the helmets. You know, these people obviously are working in the desert because guys, the first time you start bebopping through the woods with all those fixtures that you see attached, you tell me what's going to happen. I mean, first of all, nature itself is going to be a bugger. Then on top of that, if I were aggressive against them and you wanted to mess up their day, you'd be running fishing line in all kinds of directions and at all heights. The nature of the way people move is resistance is either positive, in other words, up north or south towards the feet. Up towards the head, south towards the feet. Either way, it just buggers with stuff. Think all the stuff you normally can just hook up on if your gear is fairly clean. Now you're running around with an m4 type rifle with widgets and notches all over it. A real quick case in point. At the very beginning of Vietnam we had the m14 rifle as the dominant arm, but we already saw the m16 coming into play. The M16 with its Pickle Fork Flash Hider is nothing more than a little open area that Pickle Fork, that Flash Hider, remember, had the prongs to the front, only had a space that was 22 caliber in diameter in the center and little widgets off to the side that were basically the same caliber in width. We changed from a Pickle Fork Flash Hider to a Basket Flash Hider because that little part of the rifle collected so much garbage. that we had to protect the end of the weapon in some way so it wouldn't hang up. Now I want you to take a look at a modern firearm as they presently are depicting them and you think about that going through any kind of temperate woods, forest or any kind of overgrowth or undergrowth or canopy of any kind and you tell me what it's going to look like. Ooh! Ah! Ooh! Ah! Ah! Oh! Oh! Hangin' up here. Oop! Jamin' up there. Oops! And by the way, even if you break free, guys, how much garbage is hangin' off your rifle? How much did you leave back there? Yeah, oops! Where'd my- where'd my laser go? Wait a minute, did that flusin' up again? Aw, man! What about, you know, fill in the blank? Okay, I'm just bringing up points that I want you to do that. Go through the woods. It is bad enough just to have your clodhopper feet trying to move through and get through an obstacle course like that. Okay? Speaking of feet, buy another set of boots. Yes, a break them in. Break them in. Okay, it's gonna be Mark, Don and Mike. Ready? God bless Republic. God bless Republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We are on the march. Both day and night. Ooh-rah! Fix bad ass chasing down the road. Give him a backpack full of diving machines and the rest is history. Thank you, Don. Thank you, Mike. Throw some tail cards on the water. We gotta go, cause we got quite a wreck behind us. Collectors, outdoor enthusiasts, survivalists. The Army-Navy Store from your memory as a child is just that, on memory. 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