November 12, 2008
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Mark Koernke and Darrell Sivek discussed revolver options for self-defense and preparedness on Weapons Wednesday, covering various frame sizes (K-frame, J-frame, N-frame) and calibers from .22 to .50, emphasizing affordability and availability of used police trade-ins. They introduced Wolverine Military Outfitters as a new sponsor, offering woodland camouflage uniforms, web gear, ghillie suits, and ammunition cans at competitive prices. A caller from New York reported on market conditions including stock market decline, ammunition shortages at retailers, and Walmart's decision to discontinue sewing departments, prompting discussion about critical supply chain disruptions and the importance of stockpiling ammunition and sewing supplies.
- revolvers
- k-frame
- smith and wesson
- ammunition shortage
- preparedness
- weapons wednesday
- wolverine military outfitters
- camouflage uniforms
- police trade-ins
- speed loaders
- stock market
- walmart
- sewing supplies
- militia
- self-defense
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For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free? And good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, this is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark corny I'm Darrell Sivek. We're also on AM and FM Microstations, CV Bay Stations, and alternate technologies both east and west of the Mississippi, southern and central Alaska. Well, today is Weapons Wednesday and we have been touching on a number of different arms. Of course, one of the interesting things is that there are a variety of arms that are reasonably priced out there. Oh, and we're going to touch on the next step here and okay. I can't afford a $500 automatic pistol. I'll read that, you know, some automatic pistol, but you know, it's automatic, it auto reloads, right? And let's see, I am limited with regard to ammunition. I'm going to have to be reloading as the days go by. So let's see, maybe a revolver would be a good choice. Hey, they're actually pretty affordable. There are J frames, K frames, L frames, N frames, D frames. There's a whole bunch of stuff in between that over the years are actually just random designs unto themselves. But the dominant frame out there right now in the reasonable price range is the K frame. As a matter of fact, Centerfire has a couple of 2 inch barrels and a couple of 4 inch barrels. K-frame Smith and Wesson M&P knockoffs. They're actually not Smith's, they're made in the Philippines, but they're a copy of the K-frame that they made for a decade after a decade after a decade after a decade. One of the advantages of the K-frames and the J-frames is that the K-frame is a 6 shot, the J-frames are 5. is that there's lots of them laying all over the place guys and there's spare parts everywhere there's holsters all over the place leather canvas gear whatever you want so if you're looking at outfitting a lot of additional people need a personal hand cannon Darrell revolvers are a solution aren't they? Yeah especially if you can find some of the police straight in from years ago when they switched over from revolvers they used to carry the Smith and Wesson I think was model 10 K frame and a 38 special then they went to a 357 Magnum. Now a Model 19. And then they traded the 357 Magnums in to get the, oh well, they were right at 9 millimeters here. Woo hoo! The supposed Cadillac of the time. But some police departments were smart and switched over to 45 ACP. But anyway, there are hundreds if not millions of these police trade-ins all over the country floating around that you should be able to find and track down and pick up. And most of them are only what I call holster worn because they were not shot very often or very much. And all he did was ride around in the holster and the police officer would take it in and out occasionally to clean it and then it would go right back into the holster. So, there are many, many fine used police trade-ins out there. And if you have enough money, you can find them cheap enough by two or three. That way you can do the Chicago reload. When you empty one, you just grab another. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, click, click, click, click, click. Oh, I need the other one. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. Well the thing too about the K frames and the J frames, we're going to brought the J frame up guys because little Smith model 36 has a dozen copies made by Rossi, made by Charter, well Charter makes their own undercover, but it's in the same size range and then there's of course Taurus. You have, let's see what else do we have, the mini command sheet that was made you know like a six inch was basically competing against the when the diamond back came out and they had the little colt and these things are expensive but they made a mini python basically and 38 special that was on the smaller frame and they were beautiful just slick as glass actions you can still find that in older colt revolvers and in a lot of the custom smith revolvers that were made for departments Now, there are not as many out as there used to be, but the K-frames right now, what seems to be dominant, are still a lot of the model 64s and 65s. And those are stainless, which is another cool feature. So if you're looking for a weapon that maybe you want to put into your weapons cache, Revolvers are a nice thing, especially when they're stainless steel. You take that stainless steel revolver, properly treat it, clean it, and package it accordingly, then vacuum pack the ammunition. You got yourself a nice K-Frame Model 65 combat. 4 inch barrel with an extra piece of canvas or leather stuck away and properly sealed for time. A couple of speed loaders, preferably 4 to 6 at least to be quite honest, just like magazines, speed loaders are a plus plus. And what you've got there then is a pretty decent little combat pistol with good knockdown strength. And here's the thing, in the long run we're looking at reloading guys. So what's going to happen here is we need to be able to hold and recover our brass The advantage you can pop the brass and one in one fell swoop pop into your hand It goes right into your popcorn pocket twist the revolver. You know just spin It's an automatic spin reach to your belt pull out the speed loader either HSK or you can use Safari Safari's are out there big time because a lot of the cop shops bought into the Safari speed loaders So you'll find boxes of them anyway Line the speed loader, twist, pull back, throw that into the other popcorn pocket with your right hand, put it in your right hand popcorn pocket, close the cylinder and bop, bop, bop, bop. It is no worse, or is any slower, than operating a magazine with regard to the weapon once you're trained to use it. And speed loaders afford a great amount of versatility that otherwise wouldn't necessarily be there, but the revolver, any handgun. isn't supposed to be your primary arm. If you went to your handgun, something went wrong with your MBR. Something went wrong with something else. Now it could be that you're, you know, in the bathroom, could be in the shower, maybe that's the only thing hanging there. Whatever handgun you happen to have. Well, your hand cannon is convenient for that reason, which is why you keep it with you. You'll notice when I did the equipping for the New World Order Part 1 video, I saw some comment in there about the weapons and It's interesting that you'll know what I did there. I showed that the shoulder holstered weapon, no matter what it is, semi-automatic pistol or revolver, is always on your person. It can be on your belt fixture, however you got it set up, but a shoulder holster, especially old pancake type militaries, are kind of convenient because you can adjust them accordingly when you have whatever web gear you're wearing on. But you still when you take the web gear off you always have a firearm with an easy reach that literally is Don would say can jump to your hand and Darryl other advantages now again maintenance on a revolver pretty straightforward Yep, the cleaning solvent. You don't really have to totally disassemble unless you have the time and the tools to do that but spraying with a cleaning agent and then drying them off and Then spray them with whatever lube you want to put on them. Wire brushing for the barrel and cylinder and then a cotton swab to run down through there, clean all that out. It's an easy task, but it's not complicated. I'll tell you what, we're going to go to break here, I think, in a minute. This is the Intel Report's second hour. It's Weapons Wednesday. You've got Darryl and Mark, and we will be back in about three. heavy items. Find surplus items for cheap now. like 30 caliber cleaning kit for just $2.99 a piece or a dozen for $30. Flair pistols are only $25. Want to add a brand new Israeli gas mask to your collection? Kids in adult sizes are just $20. Get G3 mags for just $2 or a military fuel cap for only $16. Add this iPhone holes for another $7.99. Find it all online at mainmilitary.com. 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For more information, send a self-addressed stamp envelope to... and ladies and gentlemen we are back this is the intel report live and yes that is poker face a poker face dot com check out their web page because the new album may be ready even as we speak we have permission to play one part of one of the songs on the air now because it's it's pertinent to what's happening across country so i'm gonna work on that tonight we'll see about uh... Cuing that up after we're done with the programming so we can use it tomorrow, but we have the C we have a copy of the album on CD right now guys and It's just a matter when they finished tweaking it up, and we'll work out what we can But very good music as is always the case with poker face now Daryl with revolvers, I know we mentioned the Smith K frames, but that's not all the south there There's a lot of revolvers still on the market that are pretty decent and everything down to 22 and then from there, right? Yeah We have single action and double action. Starting with .22, most of the single actions that are out there come with two cylinders. One for .22 on rifle and one for .22 Magnum which gives you a little versatility and a little more power. Various barrel lengths all the way from 2 inch barrels all the way out there. At one time there was some 9.5 with the Paul Butthline specials. And then from .22 you go to some .32s. 32 longs, 32 SW long, 32 long colts. Even a 32 Magnum, I believe, was Heritage Richardson, come out with one here just a few years ago. The Magnum cartridge and several people jumped on the bandwagon and building single actions and that I know River was at one time building a 32 H and R Magnum. Then you can go into 38, 357. which is a nice combination because in that one, if you buy it in the 357, the 38 Specials fire in that and so will some of the older 38 short cartridges that are out there. We'll fire in that so you get like three, maybe four different calibers of ammo you can fire in one gun. Then you can go on up into 44 Magnum, Apollo 29, the Smithhead, the Rupert Red Hawk, the Black Hawk, Then there's the 45 ACP and some of these that you can buy in a single action that were two cylinders, 45 long-culpe, and then a 45 ACP cylinder to go with it, which used either a half-wound clip or a full-wound clip which held six and just talked about your original speed letters. Just open your cylinder up, drop that in, boom, the way you went. They even made them in some double actions there for a while. Then you can go on from 45 all the way up to the 50, well that's not necessarily a revolver, but there is a 50 caliber revolver that they came out with here just not too long ago. There's even some, if you have the money and have custom shops that will build you a 4570 revolver if you want. And I read somewhere that Taurus has just come out with what they call a 410. revolver that shoots 3 inch 410 shells and 45 long pistol cartridges. You have a variety and mixed bag out there but they're all good hitters. Especially if you get some of those that are in the combination like .22 and the .22 mag or the .357 because then you can shoot .38 specials in it or a whole host of other 38 caliber ammo. And Ruger at one time, I don't know if they still do or not, made a 9mm conversion unit for a 38-357 in their Black Hawk that you could change cylinders and even shoot 9mm pistol cartridges. And the Anos, matter of fact on that note, good point, there was a little niche there where they also did the Speed 6. in the standard military and police model and they made an Israeli contract in 9mm for them one of the few military contracts that Ruger ever got. They got a bunch of undercover contracts and slide contracts like that. But they did make it so that it could use half moon clips much like remember the old World War I big frame and frame revolvers made by Colton Smith. They take the half moon or full moon clips also for 45 ACP or you could use 45 rimmed which was like 45 rimmed ACP made for the revolvers. very successful designs every one of them. The big thing is there's a wide range revolvers are not obsolete. In the 32 longs for instance, the 32 magnums, they're actually quite a little biter when it comes to you know chewing at you. So for a pickup weapon something that you're in a situation where you've had a weapons malfunction, you want something you can carry that's out of the way, can be put into an M16 mag pouch with spare ammunition etc. etc. All you do is click pop it out and pop pop pop pop pop. Congratulations, not personally. I try not to waste too many rounds and barks like a dog. You can't tell for sure what the hell it is that's being pointed at you. And when you put a bullet in somebody, well, a .32 ACP, they really do know about it. .32 and .30 caliber, pretty much the same. Peppie-ish rounds are nothing more than .30 caliber Peppie-ish, slash .30 caliber Tokarev. Whereas the 32 ACP comparable about the same weight of bullet and remember that the checks they took did some interesting things with the 32 automatic Colt pistol cartridge and they made it quite a penetrator quite an AP round Another thing, the reason I bring up APC is because many of the revolvers, just as you were mentioning, Daryl, many of the 32 revolvers will use the 32 ACP round because it's semi-rimmed. There are a lot of cartridges out there built like that. And 32 ACP will work with 32 Smith & Wesson, work with 32 Smith & Wesson Long or the 32 Smith Mag, or what was it, H&R Mag? We were talking about that off the air. Yeah, so there's all kinds of solutions guys ammunition Integration is quite you know possible It's a matter of just doing the research and understanding the difference in the cartridges and how they can be applied now the revolvers There's lots of leather There's all kinds of different holster systems out there go through that you know the cool thing is this you can pick up a nice Oh K frame knockoff for about a hundred to a hundred and ten dollars used You can go into the grab boxes and find leather, your choice of what you want. Hell, you can find hurricane holsters, you can find shoulder rigs of any type you can imagine. And then speed loaders, either used or new, for about five to six dollars a piece, if they're used, as little as two dollars a piece, which is pretty cool. So that's another consideration. That makes it very, very much worthwhile. Okay? Anyway, The idea behind this is that we're trying to come up with solutions because what's going to happen, it's already taking place, Gerald. Centerfire system cleaned out of everything in handguns. Short of a one or two here or one or two there, they got some .45s, they've got some K-frames, wow, two or three, literally could count them on two hands. And beyond that, there's just the odds and ends items sitting out there. Hopefully we can do better than just the odds and ends, but if that's what you've got to go with, that's what you're going to go with. and some people are going to be told, oh trade out of that revolver into the automatic, eh, just a reverse. Keep the revolver and then go get an automatic if that's what you want to do. Hang on to the revolver. Yeah, it's already paid for it. Don't you already know how to use that weapon? And everybody will always answer the same thing, oh yeah, I've shot thousands of rounds through it. Well really, if you've shot thousands of rounds through it, why do you want to get rid of it now if you already know how to use that weapon? The up curve right now guys is a big problem and ammunition consumption is an issue even for just regular training. There's less and less that's readily available because everybody in the bulk category are going to be looking for that stuff. Okay, every place we look the ammunition situation is the same across the board. So use some common sense, keep what you've got and then add to your inventory. Remember, the first rule is this, guns are for buying, not for selling. It's an old Finnish phrase by the way. It's like exactly, investing in precious metal. That's right. Loose steel, copper, lead, brass, all in the power lopper proportions. So again, we're looking at the idea that if you got it, stick with it, and then add to it, there's a reason. You may not be able to put the time on the ring. It doesn't mean there's going to be a fast learning curve. And again, ways to cheat, so to speak, is go into these video archives and start looking at different weapons that are being used. Learn from other people's correct motions and also errors and mistakes. Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make them all yourself. Ooh, you see how that works? Ooh, that can be painful. Now one more time here before we go to break your dare. We're about a minute or two away Ladies and gentlemen need your help if you can go to Liberty tree radio in on YouTube That's Liberty tree radio on YouTube and what we want you to do is get in there and check out the videos that we've posted on Liberty tree radio on YouTube The first one there that's up. That's a that right now We wanted to keep it in place longer because a lot of people have seen it going, huh? Visions of things to come, the video is called militia-knowyourenemy. If you have not watched this video, I ask that you go to YouTube punch in Liberty Tree Radio and watch that video please. Also there are many other training videos there for medical support items. Everything from NBC defense to food rations to web gear you name it. These are bridging videos. We're doing some filming this weekend. Don's been doing it a lot of filming too so there's going to be a bunch of videos added here but the Know Your Enemy series is going to expand and everything that you see there is going to be original footage. We aren't going to have to fabricate or do anything. We're taking footage of existing actions that we know about and usually from enemy combat cameras. So people can't say, well you guys did that. No we didn't. This is them. This is their equipment running to show you what they do. That's very, very important with regard to understanding your enemy. So militia dash know your enemy. It's on YouTube right now. Get in there, watch it, and if you can rate it and comment, it helps us a great deal. Tell you, we are at the bottom of the hour. And we're going to take a break. Darryl, you stay right where you are. I'll stay right where I am. We'll be back in about three minutes here on Liberty Tree Radio. We might even have a guest here in a little bit. We'll be back. Hey Tommy, you got anything? Since the... ...recag'd down the road, man, my beamer's gone! I'll tell you what though, whoever you were listening to, they had their act together. This guy said a box ammo'd be enough. Hell, I used that 15 minutes ago! Throw me a mag, Tommy! I had my retreat that I'm re-listening to! Liberty Tree Radio, you're gonna find out what's really going on, it's gonna save your life! We're messing with something here. Okay, well we are back. Oh, that sounds scary. Wait a minute, hold on a second here. You know what this sounds like? I feel like I'm in a Star Trek episode. It's the first Star Trek movie, remember that? The Jer. Anyway, this is live radio. We've got Daryl, this is Mark, and we've got a guest in here right now. Daryl in the studio. We have Mark. from Wolverine Military Outfitters and he's going to be here to say hello for a little bit and also let everybody know that we have a new sponsor that's helping us out here with LTR Liberty Tree Radio. So, tell you what, first of all, Wolverine Military Outfitters, their phone number is 734-340-7285, that's 734-340-7200. 7285 Wolverine Military Outfitters and hey, now what we make a point of saying hello to everybody out there Hello everybody out there out there. All right. There's a well the good thing is you get caught on not to repeat everything That's good. Now. Anyway Wolverine Outfitters you guys are gonna be doing a little bit everything tell everybody what's available what you're gonna be providing for the people that are interested and Go right on down the list now, of course woodland camouflage uniforms for our units that are standardized on that and Woodland camouflage is available, variety of sizes, but we're going to kind of pay attention and keep your pen and paper handy. If there's something here that looks like it's something you need, well, it's going to be listed. Well, we have a whole bunch of assortment of things here. We have plenty of ammo for your 26.5 millimeter flare launchers. We have the parachute flares, the red signal flares, and the blue smoke. We have different sizes and uniforms. We can pretty much order whatever you're looking for, from VDU to digital to Tiger Stripe to the FLEC-TAR. to the Woodland Camo. We do have a special on the Woodland Camo right now which is $40 a set and we have all different sizes from youth sizes all the way up to extra, extra adult sizes I guess you could say. Super sizes! Okay, 2X is available so for all of you that are listening, if you're looking at it, especially with units that have a specific camouflage need, A lot of the companies have gone out of business. I'm going to say this right now. I have dealt with certain companies for 30 ... well, first of all, you all know everybody out here is bright enough not to be going and joining the CIA, right? I'm sure. Okay, first of all, duh. In fact, they don't need us. They told us they don't have us. They're busy sucking up to all these foreigners. They don't really need Americans. Yeah Anyway point is that no just really well we've got these you know there's ads floating around in the other world with the different services and companies out there and It's rather comical because stuff shows up and it pops up at different times Check it out, but remember eight they already told us they don't need us. They're global cops They're got all these other foreigners. They want to buy the faith head go find some gun whores somewhere else Okay, you don't need us in fact obviously you can take the box of rocks from that door and make them work, okay? So there you go. Anyway, in uniforms and equipment, now can we take care of headgear too? Such as hats, booney hats, things of that nature? Yes we can. We can take care of booney hats. Just actually need to know the size, what they're looking for. We can take care of the booney hats. We also got different ghillie suits available. We got the snow camel ghillie suits that's going to be available. We also have your normal ghillie suit that will be available. Darryl. Can you hear me? It looks like a Yeti in this picture. I can't show it to you in the microphone, but it looks like a big Yeti. I can't see it over the phone. You're going to have to shoot it quick. It's the embominable snowman. Anyway, it actually looks pretty cool. That's something I don't think anybody has thought about that much. Some of our people actually used snowgillies. during an action that took place back in the middle 90s when there was an action in the other part of Washtenaw County. And our people literally got within arm's reach of the bad guys on the other side and they had no clue that our people were there. Literally, I mean, this is interesting. This is something that now there's another system. What company are we looking at, or what are we looking at system-wise here as far as the patterns that are available? Well, basically whatever you call that pattern, obviously they can't see it. Fog. Okay. It's snow fog, that's what it is. Looks like a snow hill. But we're also looking at other seasonal patterns. Yeah, there's other seasonal patterns as far as fall, spring, summer. There's all different variations. I will have a website up and running, hopefully tomorrow afternoon, which that website will be wolverinemo.com. WolverineMO.com and you'll be able to get on there and check some stuff out. You can also go to Wolverine Military Outfitters and it'll send you to the same website which will have pictures of pretty much everything that we have in stock and what's going to be available to do a fast turnaround to get it to you. So and again they're not the phone number now. Let's give out the phone number phone number is 734-340-7285 and if they're gonna go to the web page give that a couple times everybody get your pen and paper there that would be WW dot Wolverine mo dot com WolverineMO.com would be the web page you can go to and they're building the web page as we speak. I've seen some stuff earlier today what they're doing with the web page and it's awesome web page. So sometime tomorrow mid-afternoon the page will be up and running. There will be a pay pile on there so you can actually order and pay for your stuff right there online. So now here's a question real quick now. We're talking about custom orders a lot of you guys that are listening may need specific uniforms for certain size individuals What you can do is actually tell you can custom order and tailor the material to the needs of the unit or the group So this is a this is one of the reasons you want to write that number down if you have Especially since it's becoming I'm telling you this is true because I've been spot-checking all these companies I used to deal with for the last 30 years a bunch of them have died out and when I say died out I literally mean died out the owner died Okay in one case the sons just simply have let the company fall to pieces and another one they sold the entire inventory to companies like main military or like to Wolverine military outfitters. Okay guys, the stuff is the companies are not being replaced in the US with companies of like interest and so the availability has changed and it's going to be just like with ammo, uniforms and equipment, it's going to be the same situation and for a lot of us, yes, we are a uniformed service. We are regular militia. For that reason we are going to maintain specific standards under the rules of war. Now I know all the arguments about unconventional, paraconventional, and conventional. You don't have to even throw that at me. We have to have a combined arms force out there in order for any one of them to work. In this case, we're looking at line militia formations that are very competent, very well outfitted, and we get to choose. We actually are discretionary in that respect. We choose the equipment that works for a specific area of operation. Snow camouflage is not necessarily needed down in the desert, but on the other hand, we have units all over the west, the northern parts of the United States, the northeastern seaboard, where this kind of equipment is a must because of the season change. And the idea is not to stand out, the idea is to break up and blend in. Now, you can pretty well mix and match uniforms and equipment too, so as people need other items, they know, let's say they want to round out something and they only needed more pants, they got lots of jackets, you can do that. Yes sir, I can. What about gear and web gear? You're looking at moving in that direction, correct? Yes, actually we have a huge order that will be picked up next week, which has got a large assortment of web gear and we got some of the new gear, if you guys are interested, the MOLLE gear system, support systems. We've got a ton of cold weather mittens coming. I mean, there's a whole assortment. I've got pages upon pages of stuff that we'll be picking up. So, like I say, the best thing to do is to keep checking back with us. Another heads up here, we're looking at ammo cans, aren't we? Oh yes, the ammo cans. We have the .50 caliber ammo cans that we're making a really good deal on them, which I believe the special on them. We got a Birch Run special that we're doing at the Birch Run Gun Show, but basically we're going to do four .50 cal ammo cans for 20 bucks. and you can't beat the price of that guys for what they are especially right now plus the deal talking the PDOs are talking about the fact that Osama bin Dangdong plus the DOD wants to start crushing all these again like they were doing the several years ago they've done this at different times we gotta remember we've got the nut cases coming back into power that are going to try and destroy as much American equipment as they can. The Clintonistas destroyed four to five million M14s that were in strategic reserve that could have sat there and and stared at you for another century and it looked just like when they went in the cosmoline years ago. Instead they were destroyed. The same is true with cans, brass, you name it. It was being fragged. They're looking at it again and a lot of it is being fragged just out of policy anyway. Depends on who gets a hair up there, but what given day? So again, 734-340-7285 and it's Wolverine Military Outfitters. Give your webpage again a couple times. WolverineMO.com. What's our MO? Wolverine. WolverineMO.com. Oh, by the way, on that note, who are they going to be speaking to? They'll be speaking to Mark Anthony Vaughan. And or anybody else possibly picking up the phone? Actually on that phone line that should be basically me. Okay very good. So if you want to know who you're going to be speaking to you got the guy right here on the microphone right now. And again one of the sponsors for Liberty Tree Radio so when you help our sponsors out obviously you're helping out LTR. but also taking care of your needs, your tactical needs, that's one of the things we're looking at. We have several different people who provide and we are not going to have enough no matter how we look at it people. I'm going to tell you something, whole categories are running out. When they run out chances are they're not being replaced. It's that simple. So if you see something that you like and something that you want for your personal needs, it might be a good idea to get an extra set of or spares of Because when you're wearing clothes, you don't want to wear the ones set until they fall off You're supposed to change out of uniforms and in equipment a really good idea Plus we got to remember that unlike movies in real life. We have smell-o-vision and If you don't change gear and clean up a bit well, you know, you know, you can close your eyes and find you know what I mean? Really embarrassing. We don't want that to happen either. So spares are critical Doesn't mean it won't happen anyway because you don't have an option, but we're gonna make sure that we get it done Uh, no. What we're also going to do is we'll be posting as you need a contact, whenever anybody wants to get a hold of us or if we need to get a hold of Mark, we'll be able to deal with that and take care of it accordingly. 734-340-7285, there'll be links on our pages and we're going to do some ad blocks here pretty soon too so we're going to have some fun. And looking at expansion here real quick and this is just the beginning for Wolverine Military Outfitters, correct? that is correct so the other thing we're going to be doing is uh... wolverine is probably going to be one of the few companies that is going to be offered some of the gear that's being done by militia manufacturing example uh... one of the things we have a niche for that use it's an equipping part two is the uh... chest pouches that accommodate the standard seventy five round drum there are a lot of whole lot of systems that actually will i to carry the seventy five round drum The chest pouch is a mimic of the Chinese system but a little better built. It has the large pocket in the center, two of the longer, smaller pockets on the outside for 30 round mags, plus the smaller pockets still for grenades or for cleaning kits or whatever. The idea behind this is that you have a place to put that drum. It'll still fit the AK stick mags, but it's big enough to actually accommodate comfortably and effectively the drum which is it's a must thing if you can get them you want to have if you got them you got a way to carry them this is a solution plus is Kevlar armor underneath the main panel with these best away that they're set up the way the chest poachers are set up or break time here again mark thank you for coming up why thank you mark stick around about an hour and a half we're gonna have you up again for the eight o'clock hour to sounds great okay thank you very much thank you and we're going to break now i think here We will be back. Darryl's with us still. This is Mark and remember Wolverine Military Outfitters 734-340-7285. We'll be back and you can call them right now by the way too. We'll be back in three on LTR. Collectors, outdoor enthusiasts, survivalists. The Army Navy Store from your memory as a child is just that, on memory. 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Remember, if you don't, you won't stop me. and ladies and gentlemen we are back this is the intel report live right here on liberty tree radio and interestingly enough again one more time for our friends are listening if you want to you give these guys a call and give mark a call right now seven three four three four zero seven two eight five That's 734-340-7285. Wolverine Military Outfitters is who you want to talk to. And the web page will be up shortly. Also, new Colonial Marine Militia website. ColonialMarineMilitia.4mg.com, that page is under construction but it's in motion. That's the www.colonialmarinemilitia.4mg.com. Check them out and remember you're going to see some pretty cool stuff there because it's an expansion module for the CM forces. Also would link to the Colonial Marine War Gaming Division along with the NBF War Gaming Division. So we'll have more on that shortly too. Daryl, with regard to the revolvers, now the only thing is again maintenance on them, a little more specialized because of the timing and everything, internals, but the basic rule with maintenance on those is again, easy access to the cylinder and the barrel, which means there's no real excuse for those things not to be kept clean, right? when you're doing that you want to make sure you keep that forcing call and the front of the cylinder clean uh... i've noticed a lot of people when they clean their weapons they run the brush down through the barrel and all that kind of stuff and then they when they're swap down through clean out this stuff that they put a fresh coat of oil inside there to put it away but they forgot to take the brush clean the front of the cylinder and the forcing column there's a gap between the cylinder and the barrel make sure you keep that clean because you get residue build up and your weapons of the cylinder will then eventually not want to turn. Not because there's anything wrong with the gun, it's just got some dirt in it. Plus, when you're cleaning the cylinder back where the ejector is in the back, you want to make sure you clean underneath there and don't leave any debris underneath that because you get some dirt underneath that and that will also cause the bind up. It's just over, over, over what I want to call it, oversight that may cause you a little problem. Right, and again the common sense, you're going to be able to see it if it's especially stainless. Those funny dark areas in front of the cylinder, that's usually carbon build up. That's not a reach, it's not like a two shade, two tone finish on your revolver, okay? And again, this is where maintenance brushes come in. By the way, go to the dollar store. You get any kind of toothbrush you can think of in any flavor or size, angled heads. You can cut them or clip them to make them work for certain projects and you get five for a dollar, six for a dollar, ten for a dollar, three for a dollar, it's purely a matter of what they're made to do. So it's not like you can't get the maintenance brushes that you need now. That's one of the few places where the dollar store, the China Sport, you know, stuff comes in handy, is in the volume production area. I was buying the little toothbrushes, Darrell, at a penny a piece. Remember those? The little 4 inches that they make so you don't stab yourself with them or somebody else. Well, at a penny a piece, I bought thousands and sent them home. If you go to the dentist on a regular basis and you become friendly with the dentist, then... You might be able to talk him out of some of his old used dental picks and stuff. They work good for getting down inside the real neural cracks and crevices to clean stuff out. And it's, are drums really that important? They are a bit pricey. Yes, they are pricey, but they're, I don't know if they're available now, but Centerfire systems had some drums without the three round followers, the three steel machine bullets. Okay, you can use three regular rounds, it's just they aren't gonna necessarily follow out with the system, for I think about $60 or so. You're gonna have to shop around. The drums, if you can't afford a $100 and some dollar drum, I understand that, don't worry about that. The advantage is if you have other friends or allies who back in the day when they were 1995 a piece, guess what? They might have 10 of them and might part with one for each team member which is why they bought them. The other consideration is remember the drums are awfully handy for your vehicle mounted weapons. Even if you used a standard semi-auto AK on the roof, say on a vehicle, if you dress it out properly that's a lot of firepower and it's nice to have that 75 or 100 rounder to put in that weapon so the guy focuses on putting weapons rounds down range not changing magazines. That's where the only consideration is. Again, we use them for traveling. In other words, when you're on the move, you go to the drum. That way, if you make contact and it's accidental or it's an ambush, then you're returning fire and you're focusing on volume fire. It's one of the few times where I do agree with the volume fire concept. So all you guys with AKs and ARs, either you do the stale drum Mitchells, you do the steel AK drums, they make steel AR-15, 125 rounders, too, by the way, and 223. If you can find those still, they're worth their weight in gold, people. Don't abuse them. Make sure they stay clean. Make sure there's maintenance done on them. Don't just leave them laying around. Check them, fix them, put them back in the box, put them back in the bag, however you're using them. But make sure they're taken care of. All right, well we got, I'll tell you what, Daryl, stay right where you are. We've got a caller. Who do we have? Good evening, Mark. This is David from New York with a PBN report. We haven't got much time so I'll just cover quickly. If you didn't already know, the stock market closed today at 82.7 on Adal Jones in industrial. That's 400 points from yesterday. Also an interesting nice thing that happened today. Let's see what the results are at the pump. Crude oil closed at 55.50 at the barrel. It's going down across the board. It looks like most of the coin exchanges are unexchanged. However, gold and silver also went down on the market today. Try to buy it for $7.12 an ounce if you think you can. Right. It ain't going to happen. It ain't going to happen. But the market is showing the stuff down. There's some more to go on that, but I just wanted to quit that. The thing I mainly was calling and concerned with Buy more ammunition folks. I had a long talk yesterday with the local Walmart sporting goods manager and he's got specific orders not to reorder most things in sporting goods. Limited amount of ammunition he can reorder but most everything else when it's gone it's gone and gee shotgun and rifle season starts on Saturday. So let me tell you There were guys lined up there yesterday buying ammunition. I managed to get a box of one particular round I was wanting. While I was there, two more guys came in and asked the guy if they could get a box. He said, don't have any more. I got the last box that was on the shelf, folks. It's that bad. It is going down, down, and it's unseasoned just beginning. And if they run out, they're out. And some of the things I wanted yesterday were not on the shelf, Mark. Gone, gone, and will not be restocked. Now this is most important is that what they're doing is they're keeping their inventory conservative. I would expect that, but here's the thing. It's almost guaranteed the ammunition itself. So Wally World is going to make sure that they're really, really, really politically correct. That's why they're not reordering what it is they have. Here's another one Mark that they're not doing. Walmart has ordered the sewing departments to be closed in their stores. Fabric, needles, thread will no longer be stocked after Christmas. Okay, now I would say this right now, and thank you for bringing that up, Dave. If they're actually talking about disposing of their sewing departments, many of the sewing stores are already shut down. People do not understand the value of needles until they are no longer available. So if you have not put an inventory of sewing needles and sewing machine needles aside, you're in trouble. This sounds like a stupid little item, but it's one of the first 100 items to disappear in a crisis situation. Dave, you got a terrible connect there. I thought, oh, there we go. I realize that. That's okay. You're good. I'll call back at 8 o'clock and give you more update on this whole thing. But this is serious because what good are needles if you can't get cloth? Well, we're going to start scavenging and that's what's going to happen. So be prepared for that. I toss nothing away for that reason. Anyway, thank you. We'll cover more of this today. Thank you, Dave. Bye. And again, that was a three screamer for the stock market today. You know, one scream, then a big breath. Another scream, big breath. You're still falling. Well, wait a minute, one more scream. Ah! Oh, wow, that hurt. Darryl, we're at the top of the hour. Yes, it did. I'll tell you what, ladies and gentlemen, again, buy the ammunition you can if you're coming in late in the game. All these other guys in the chatroom can tell you, we told you so. As always, God bless the Republic. Yes, we do world order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen, the Empyre is on the run. On the mark. Ooh Rob. Well thank you Darrell, we'll be back with us next Wednesday. You're welcome. That's right. Mark. Uh oh. Gotcha. Mark? Yeah. Hey, I'm just getting in, am I an hour late? We're already leaving, we'll be back in an hour. Oh, what time are you on this hour? Actors, outdoor enthusiasts, survivalists. The Army-Navy Store from your memory as a child is just that, on memory. But there is still one place to find everything from gas masks to ammo cans and find it cheap. MainMilitary.com. Get hard to find objects like real wool blankets for under 20 bucks. Canteen for just $2.00 or Trioxane fuel for just $1.00 a box. MAINE Military.com with free shipping on items over $150. Not including heavy items. 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