November 3, 2008
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Mark Koernke and Don discussed the 2008 presidential election occurring within 24 hours, criticizing early voting practices and expressing skepticism about voting machine integrity, particularly Diebold machines. They recommended preparedness measures including ammunition, weapons, food, water, and tools, with detailed discussion of acquiring surplus military equipment like canvas tents and ponchos for pre-deployed shelter modules. Callers provided information on affordable ammunition sources at Academy Sports Centers and military surplus suppliers. The show covered unauthorized hunting on private land, survival techniques for evading thermal imaging, and long-range shooting equipment recommendations.
- 2008 election
- voting machines
- diebold
- preparedness
- ammunition
- 7.62x39
- military surplus
- canvas tents
- ponchos
- thermal imaging
- survival evasion
- long-range shooting
- militia
- constitutional rights
- poaching
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You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've taken Satan's number You've traded in your name You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? Oh good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. This is the first hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark corny I'm Donald Betru. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we're on live 365. Then go to Liberty Tree Radio. We're also on AM and FM microstations, CB base stations, UltraNet technologies, both East. and west of the Mississippi and southern and central Alaska heading towards Ellusions. Want to say hi to our friends way up there where the yellow snow is. Remember that one? Oh, wait a minute. That was that Frank guy. I seem to recall him. Anyway, Don, today's date is? Hey you guys, it is 3rd of November and let me see, November, December, and then a year is done. December, wow. the third of November. Wait a minute, that means what's happening just around the corner here within 24 hours? Yeah, within 24 hours, Mark, people will be leaning on the Virginia polls, or rather, you know, the exit polls, and then finally the reports from the precincts, because one way or another it's basically said whoever carries Virginia is going to be the next to Fuhrer. Well, Commissar, I think, sir. Commissar. I keep looking at some fascinating numbers here of course. First we had the pre-election or you know the advance voting. Now I don't know where they really got this idea from. Is this like where everybody figures, oh I just got to get there early before the sale starts? Wait a minute, if you get there early before the sale starts you don't get the sale price. Yeah but I get there early. Wait a minute, okay this is supposed to be one of those high, we set a date kind of thing. and you're all supposed to participate on that date and it's important enough that everybody just kind of shows up on that day. Yeah, I can understand overseas servicemen, you know, voting in absentee. Maybe some, you know, old folks kind of infirm and can't make the trip, but you know, just because you got laundry scheduled on Tuesday. Yeah, I'm gonna be painting the bathroom. It's gonna be like pomegranate and mauve and I'm going to like include this really like marvelous little wallpaper kind of stuff, you know like it would just mess it up because I'm having to meet with Bruce and Bruce is coming by to Oh check on the wallpaper and show me swatches I mean come on like something like an election or something getting in the way of remodeling the bathroom Oh my goodness Yeah, that's exactly how it is to be quite honest. Oh, I can know I can get in and vote early. Why? Well, because everybody told me that's the latest thing. I saw it on television. How about let's try sticking to the schedule. I'm sorry, that's one of those British things. Let's stick to the schedule that we have set up rather than trying to violate the schedule constantly. You know what I mean? I just don't see any sense in it. Well, I do if they're trying to spit on the Constitution because every aspect of this is to turn on its head the process of how the American system has worked and worked well. But in this case, oh, we're going to vote early, you're going to vote. Now there are situations, you're absolutely right, let's qualify this. The unique, and that's the key word here, the very limited and unique way that somebody should be allowed to hold, you know, commit themselves to a special vote would have to be very, very narrow or it will be abused. And guess what just happened? It's been abused. I mean, first of all, the most important thing is the only reason they're voting for somebody as far as the process goes is, well, he promised, you know, McBama promised he's going to put a gun to everybody's head and steal this much of everybody's time. And McLean said that, I'm sorry, let's see, let's see, O'Clane said, that what he's going to do is he's going to put a gun to your other ear and come at you from the other direction and demand the same amount of time from you and money and resources and everything that you own including your underpants. Okay? Gee, the difference between A and B is how much can they promise to steal from other people who are productive? That's all they're promising here people. That's it. Now, I just want to bring it up about the vote thing because as we know the Diebold machine and the people playing with the Diebold machines behind the scenes are the ones that are going to direct where the vote goes anyway. So that's going to be rather fun unto itself. Probably the best example is back during the primaries when everybody was, you know, supporting Ron Paul. We reported on it as it was happening election day where people went right into the polls They walked right into the voting booth. I mean guys they were the first 50 or 60 people Ron Paul people were there when the doors opened up and the moment there was a flurry a Whole bunch and it was obvious that that's where the trend was going as soon as it was obvious There were a whole bunch of people voting for Ron Paul the machines shut down Now that is not accident because we covered it at so many locations we lost count So, let's see, what did they do next? Some goof, one of the politically correct characters who also didn't like the way the election was going, come raid, you know, the way those potlicking commissars are. Came out with a yellow pad and looked at everybody standing there and said oh I Called the company and the dye bowl machine can't be fixed from here They're gonna send somebody out to fix all of them You just write your vote down here on this yellow pad, and I'll fix it later Yeah, and I'm a Chinese jet pilot too, and of course fixed is exactly the scam. So here again, I'm going to ask the basic question, how much confidence? None with regard to whatever happens. But it doesn't make any difference. Twiddle dum and twiddle dum, not even twiddle D. Just twiddle dum and twiddle dum. These are now clone copies. They've already been giving their marching orders. So I'm going to recommend something here for all of you that are listening and a lot of you that are new listeners. And I know we have many, many, many new listeners. We've gone through the short list, but we'll go through it again. Ammunition. Weapons. food, water, and something most people don't talk about. Tools of the trade that you are associated with, that you are familiar with, any trades. I don't care if I can should overlap. I collect tools constantly. If I see somebody getting rid of something that's in out of a, you know, say out of the sphere of interest for me, I grab it anyway because you know what? Don, when I get the tool for free and it works, if I only use it that one time, it has paid for itself for any time that it sits on the shelf. Yep, that one time so if you see people putting out on the corner an old router or an old Grinder or an old drill press by the way, I've gotten all of the above for free In fact most of them far better quality than present China sport garbage, okay? old craftsman equipment, hand tools especially of any kind, I don't care what they are hand routers, hand drillers, you know drill units, Yankee screwdrivers, there's one Most of you don't appreciate a Yankee screwdriver, but before the age of the portable motor, you were up on a tall location or in a place where you couldn't get a whole lot into something. The Yankee screwdrivers are what did most of the work, and they were very, very good at their job. Most important thing is that you have the bits and the drives that you need to drill that hole or to screw in that fixture, and that's where you're going to have to buy more of because the China Sport garbage looks cool, but has really garbage temper. So you're going to need more of those to replace the stuff that's going to wear out. However, the basic tools, anything that you can to help enhance your ability to make your trade come alive. I don't care if you're a machinist, tool and die, carpenter, plumber, electrician, whatever it is that you do. Make sure that you have the machinery on the shelf and overlap with the other trades, just like I'm talking about. I don't do masonry all of the time. I'm not a bricklayer, but I can be. I'm not a cement layer every day, but I'll tell you what, I can pull cement, I can put it in place, and I know how to finish it, and I have all the tools on the shelf to do it. How? 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Saw the blah blah blah blah but he does have poles. He said he's only got $40 each at a military surplus. He's got them for 10. He said I can't share mile radius $9 per contact tent than 200 miles. Go ahead and give it all out again. Okay, like I said, two-man canvas tents. issue OK, so that's it. Well, anyway, they can call, find out. This is for our friends that are in the Austin area. They're looking for solutions. One of the considerations here is these could be barreled. OK, here's an example, guys. People are worried about how do I come up with shelters, et cetera, et cetera, for the people that I am planning on maybe adding to the list. Let's say that I have a remote location with pre-deployment, equipment on board. Guess what? You take a whole bunch of these tents, you take a blue barrel, you make sure you've got the stakes, the ropes, everything's... The rope is cut, the stakes are in there, the poles are all in the barrels, you pack them tight as many as will go into one barrel. Now of course I would add ponchos and let's put it this way. How about a couple of hammers from the dollar store? What other tools would be handy to have in the barrel just to put tents up with? Duh! Okay, so we're looking at some really cheap solutions here. You take everything, put it in the barrel, seal it shut, pre-deploy it at the remote location with other equipment. You can either put it underground or you can put it inside a little shiver shanty, whatever you want to come up with on a pallet. It's sealed from the critters. It will be there indefinitely when you need it. However many shelters you need, the critical thing is each person ends up with their own housing. You're able to spread them out so they're not all clustered in one place if you don't want to. Purely a matter of creativity. And by the way, there are ways to set the... This is the other thing I didn't mention years ago. A lot of guys know this. There are a lot of creative ways that you snap everything together to make it even bigger, almost walk-in tent. With the shelter halves. It's purely a matter of creativity and guys once you're in the military you learn real quick to make things work for you. So this is a cheap solution. You grab a pile of the ponchos. Hell, even go to, what is it, Harbor Freight right now has camouflage cheap tarps, the plastic tarps. Hell, go buy a handful of those, throw them in the barrel too. However much will fit. beyond your tools and your extra covers then stack it stuff it full with sets of these tents. Now you've got a pre-deployed housing module. Then as far as camouflage goes, guess what? That's not Mark's job. That's your job. And we're going to come up with a camouflage solution. By the way, we have allies right now. We're going to be talking to them tonight. We will probably have them up on the air tomorrow talking about the availability of camouflage nets. And we've got a bunch of them. We've got many different nationalities. You take a swathe of camouflage netting. Put it right over top of the poncho that's going to be used as a dew cloth or stretch it out again beyond even that so it's up and off the ground, off away from that poncho. You've got other shading, you've got disruptive color, you're going to blend in better. There's all kinds of solutions we have here and all we've got to do is take the stuff that's off the shelf to make it work. Anyway, Marcus, anything else? Well, a lot of the questions, the poncho that's at main notes that supply the zone for $24.95, that's the one you're talking about. about, right? If it's a US model. If it's the US, now they have the German ones too, and the German ones are built to the same spec, and the grommets are in the same place. I think they also have one, it's a Swiss one or something. It's more of a fall of chemicals. Okay, that's not the Swiss ones are a cape poncho. Those are different altogether, but those are a good poncho. It's just now they shouldn't be how much are they asking for these Swiss ones? For 12 bucks you get That's a good, okay, those are the cape type. They're very good. I have a bunch of them. We got them in every vehicle. This time of year especially, or if you have red soil. And you have pine trees. Like we have in Georgia. There you go. Exactly what I've been saying for years on that. The Elpine Flage works perfectly in your environment. It is your camouflage. And the latest M83 material is also thinner. One of the things to notice, the original stuff was in a herringbone twill. very heavy and it was the integrated camouflage web gear system. It wasn't just the clothing, it actually, there were what, 11 pockets externally on the gear and internally there were slip pockets so that you carried your magazines, you carried all your equipment on your coat. When you put the coat on, it is the web gear. And that's what that poncho was designed to be part of to the point where in the original alpine flush coats from the elbow to the wrist, those were waterproof so that when you stuck your arm through the poncho, your arm would still be covered with a water repellent material. They thought the whole system through. It was very well engineered. Anyway. And remember they still got that Russian 7.6 to about 39 Soviet ammo for three bucks there at Academy Sports. Is there some still available? Yeah, he said I talked to, what's the name, Richard, and he said there's some still available in Austin, but Academy Sports or Country has still got it in stock too. Some of it, wherever we can go, okay, it's Academy Sports Centers, right? Yes, sir. Okay, so anybody out there listening, you're looking for, and a lot of new listeners, you're looking for solutions other than just at the gun shows to try and get hold of ammunition right now, like today. The Academy Sports Center has bought half a million rounds of 7.62 by 39. What was the price? About $3 per box, correct? No, so that was half a million per store. Oh, half a million per store? That's just one store in Austin. He's telling you, but I'm telling him I'm the one here in Macon, Georgia. All the stores got too much ammo. Oh, well that miscommunication is actually glorious because you know what? That's a half million rounds that needs to go out into into the people's hands now. Well the gun shows it's $190 per thousand and if you buy from them it's $150 per thousand. $40 savings and you go right to where it is and you know what you got. So again Academy Sports Centers are all over the country. They are they do have I'm sure they have a website and if they... What load is this? It's not to be fired on a Ruger Mini 30. It actually is a diameter bullet made for the 7.62x39 Soviet. It is not Winchester Federal made for the Mini 30 and everything else. It's made for shooting an AK. It's a full metal jacket. FMJ? The Y-Falls full metal jacket. Excellent. I would still recommend you pull about 5% of that out and test shoot it. You know Mark, a couple years ago I told this deer out here. Nice looking deer. Russian hollow point the green case the only thing I can determine is that bullet came apart in the air and I just powdered him You know what I mean? He fell over on his side, and I thought everything was great. This is cool I'll just go over there and count the points in a minute And he got up and went boing boing boing out of sight and I never found that deer and there wasn't even a blood Right there where he fell 20 yards from me So you guys if you're gonna buy don't just shoot paper with it do something like shoot the old phone book, you know what I mean? Because plenty of bullets will bust paper. And if your bullet is coming apart in the air, you're going to know it when you hit paper. But you want to know when your bullet is starting to fragment. This is a good little thing to find out, in particular with bullets that are coming in offshore in this time frame. Yep, I checked everything that's available. And that's something we still haven't had any feedback on. But if it was half a million rounds per store and they actually acquired it, We need to find out how much is left laying around out there and we need to see here's the other question did they get it did everybody buy the same ammo or did they take say Whatever was available in the inventory, you know to block out the order which is another that's fine because you can have all kinds of ammunition But you shouldn't have as much of a problem with the FMJ except again. We want to test for reliability non-sensitive primal Non-reliable primers, that's one of the most common issue where you might have something where maybe there's an issue there. I can't see that being as much of a problem depending upon when it was made. If the ammunition was made as contract ammo during the Cold War, even though it's mildly corrosive, I wouldn't care. In fact, I'd prefer that. The Russian hollow point gets into something that years ago we talked about and I brought up is that a lot of the Russian hollow point was actually where they were milling off or nibbing off the projectile, the tip of the bullet and so they were creating an FMJ tube. It wasn't a full metal jacket, it was a a nipped FMJ where the base was open and the tip. And that's probably what created that problem, Don, and it's something that we've argued would be an issue. A lot of guys in World War II used to take a pair of wire cutters and would nip off the end of the 30 out of 6 rounds to try to make a hollow point out of them, make a soft point out of them. Most of the time that works, but if you have any adhesion between the projectile and the barrel What happens is the front of the projectile opens up the energy pushes the lead through and you end up with a little copper tube Coppers or steel tube inside the barrel now what happens next bullet goes through if it's just a regular one fantastic It'll just squeeze it out. You need some back pressure if it's the same thing they start stacking up inside Okay So that's a good point. Anyway, Marcus, anything else? Um, yeah, I'll tell you about it when we get back to the break real quick. Okay, you say where you are, this is Don and Marcus, Intel Report, we got Marcus as a call-in. We will be back in about three minutes here on Liberty Tree Radio. you know tom uh... i'm gonna ask you again we put glasses on going to take a second just for the class they're they're they're not expensive sunglasses just what you know i think that they like polarize for what what do you care they're free and given to you just put the glasses on were sitting here relaxing having a cup of coffee or in a coffee shop everything school going to just put the glasses on i don't know mark a i i'm maybe i don't want to know you know this is pretty freaky stuff you talk about right you're my friend that i trust I'm gonna put these glasses on. I'm gonna put the... Give me those glasses. Here, okay. Okay. Not a problem. Put them on. I know, Tom. In fact, look at... There's one on that woman's shoulder, too. It looks like kind of a giant slug with an octopussy kind of mouth that's just stuck... It looks like it's got... And the way it's born in, it's kind of scary, isn't it? Well, it looks like a ball worm. Not... Not... Does anybody else know about this? Tom, a lot of us do. We've all been paying attention for a long time. You'll notice, look on the one... Why did you find out about this? Well Tom, Tom, okay, relax Tom. Remember, we're all thinking, we all know what's going on. I've been watching this all the while, you and I have been sitting here as they've been coming and going. But, you know, the way to find out how I found out and got the glasses, I went to Live 365 and then I tuned into Liberty Tree Radio. In fact, I found there are other places like PBN.4MP.com. I'm really worried about this. I'm really worried about this because Oh, I know Tom. Tom, look at that one over there. The one tentacle says Neocon and the other tentacle says Liberal and they're wrapped right around that wall. Isn't it? It's hideous, I know Tom. But after a while you get used to it. I've been wearing these glasses for a long time and you can see everything now. You notice, look at these other people. It's almost like they're in a suit. They're definitely not roasting. Oh, but Tom, Tom, once you put the glasses on and now that you know, you can never go back to sleep. I know. Okay, Tom. I'll tell you what. When we go home, I want you to get on the computer and I want you to go to live 365 punch in Liberty Tree Radio then you can go or you can go to LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com or you can go to PBN.4mg.com but you know what Tom? Like I said, calm down, start to get focused. Oh, the closet monster lives! Oh yes, in fact, look at that one over there. Oh man, that guy looks like death warmed over, doesn't he? His eyes are starting to roll back. If you take the glasses off for a second, Tom, you notice something? He looked perfectly normal. Put the glasses on and keep them on, because you never know what's coming up behind you. Let me check... Oh my god! Doc, there's one! He's trying to get hold of your throat! Tom! Okay, wait a minute! I got him, I got him, I got him, it's okay, I got him. I invented the internet. I invented the internet. I invented the internet. More things. Okay, you're safe now, Tom. We got to get out of here. Let's go. You guys, I'm not trying to, you know, scare you into not buying this ammo. I want you to pick it up, but I want you to make certain you have something dependable in your possession. That's why I say, Maybe 3% depending on how much you buy maybe 5% of it you want to go out there and become familiar with the gun again Make sure it feeds find out where it prints find out make sure it prints whole complete circles versions thereof or many now another thing here you guys If you're living in the country, maybe you got a little bit of land Maybe you know over the years you've listened and thought that well. Yeah, I'm out of the country I'm out of the city now I'm living in the country and maybe you're talked back in a little bit. You can't completely see the whole road and this is good because you know then you can't be seen from the road and you know that which can you know can't be envied. I'm going to tell you something here that's going on. The other day Mark I opened the door here about quarter after five in the morning to let the dog out. She was moaning at the door so I got up and let the dog out like I need another interruption in my sleep cycle you know. Put put put put put down the road. Went this little truck from a couple miles north here and he crossed the creek and he stopped and I heard the door open and I door closed and then the truck continued on its way after five in the morning and it was like Wednesday or Thursday morning last week you guys called my neighbor this is my neighbor across the street that's like a hundred acres over there and I said hey they dropped somebody else because they've been glassing the field and hitting the field at night what do you call that shining you know bringing a lantern in you know a good long shining the fields at night so they're surveying hunting on somebody else's problem I told the owner of the property about it, Mark and Marcus, and I'm going to go in there because she's elderly, and I'll go in there and check. And I found a tree stand, the ladder and apparently the archery ability to hunt from this tree stand in there, not very far in. I came out and informed the landowner, and she said she's given nobody permission to hunt on the property. So there's ninja hunting going on, you guys. This might very well be happening to your land. Someone will go, and it might be from someone the section over or five miles away or it might even be somebody from the city who's looked on the big county maps and they've finally found something. Yeah, look at where this house is. And I think, man, if we go rent this motel, we can hunt this land here. We can ninja hunt this land. But it might very well be happening to you when it's bow season now. So it'll be a lot quieter kill. And it might even happen to you come rifle season. And as you say, Marcus, some people, they'll just shoot them in the head, drop them. And if you do that, you don't have to chase the deer. So you can do this. You can go ninja hunting, kill the deer with your rifle, and generally be off the land if there's a goodly hunk of land before the landowner figures out what's going on and can find you in the woods. So I'm just telling you this, you guys, if you own some land, this is becoming more and more trendy or whatnot. But if things really go to the bucket, you know what I'm trying to say? You're going to really have to watch your land for the last deer in the county. You kind of want to take it, don't you? But I just wanted to bring that to everybody's attention. If you don't live in the city, you might want to keep an eye out for it. You know, they call that violating. They call that poaching. They call it stealing some dinner off of my table. That's what I call it. You're taking food out of my mouth. I'll be quiet about it now you guys. Well it's interesting guys, like I've said before there are people all over the state of Michigan who have never eaten beef but they eat meat every day. Yup. So when everybody tells us all about how it's fetal resist and you'll be absorbed and they see everything and they know everything and it's like really? With that being the case what about all these people that hunt deer that well they hunt deer year round 365 days a year and darn near Russian never seems to be able to catch up with them. Now they've tried and I do know people that, I won't say shame, but what they've done is they would have anywhere from 11 to 12 deer hanging at any given time and be curing and have their own, and these are people that live off the land literally. And again in the farming areas, in Michigan and the farming areas, especially down here where we are, They were giving out block permits. I don't know how many people are familiar with this, but you know the block permit is where the farmer gets to kill so many deer. Okay, and usually they'd say, yeah, you get 10 permits because that's what we're gonna allow. The deer population is so well fed and there are so many that instead of calling them Bambi the way they did with all their conditioning even the really liberals the limousine liberals especially have the rose bushes now they call them rats with hooves. Oh Save my rose bush kill them kill them all before it was oh look Bambi and those bugger hunters those buggers Yeah until the rose bushes got munched on and then it's kill them kill them all okay So the farmers out down here, we are, guys, they're giving out block permits by the handful. And they're still not able to fill them all. And you're still not putting the dent in the population. It'd be quite honest down here. I mean, again, the only thing is, not everybody's looking for them yet. You know what I mean? But still, there are so many that beyond even the block permits, there are people who eat and live right now 100% off the land. And nobody has a clue. Were it not for some of the places where I have found carcasses, you know, the remains dropped because usually they do kind of probably do some road hunting, get my drift, you'll find places that are become popular places to drop the remains in the field when they're on the move because, you know, there's a deep hole, there's a lot of space and nobody's going to travel down that particular old train track or that particular old railroad bed. and it's easy for a four-wheel vehicle to do that. So it's already happening to a degree and that's why when people say, oh it's feudal resist, you'll be absorbed, they know everything. Really, we're just here in Michigan, we know that there's a whole lot of people already hunting off the fields. How many do you think there are in Indiana? How many do you think there are in Ohio? And need we even say anything about Pennsylvania, Tennessee, and Kentucky? That's right. Tell me about this. So again, we already have the people that can live off the land. The other side, of course, we'll probably want to kill a... The very thing that they'll claim they're doing, the eco-freaks are supporting the centralized government. But the critters that are actually running the scheme will be talking about destroying the indigenous populations of deer and whatever because they also become a targeting problem. See, one of the things, I know Marcus shared one more thing you want to talk about, I want to touch on this real quick. We've effectively avoided or shall we say not attracted attention with thermal helicopters the whole nine yards. But one of the basic rules is act like the animals. Or put as much solid material between you and whatever it is that you suspect is the observation platform. Most common mistake made, how many times do you see this? Some guy is, you know, he knows the choppers out there. And they show the thermal video guys, how many people have seen this? And he's peeking around the tree. Now, let me ask you something. Marcus, you've seen a helicopter before? Yes, sir. Don, have you seen a helicopter before? I know what they look like. Mark knows what they look like, too. So as long as I can pretty well figure where they are, why do I have to look at it? God gave you two ears to listen for, and that's all you got to do. That's right. So the first rule is, again, act like the wild animals do. Stay hidden. The basic rule of survival, escape, and evasion do as the natives do. Here's another trick. People don't think about this. And several times when I was being hunted, I very aggressively buy thermal image choppers. First of all, put as much foliage between you and whatever's there. If you have animals, remember, think of how they lay. and act accordingly. Make yourself the smallest natural-looking target that you can. The basic system scans and looks for hot spots. But the basic signature of the hot spot, if it looks comparable to others that are already say abundant in the field, then they have a problem. Now the other thing last and most important is cool the target. Let me tell you the most the first thing that I've done every time hunted by a chopper Water is your friend. I'm not talking about going out and just jumping in the lake That's not how it works and that's not what we've done despite all the propaganda and the garbage that they wrote before The point is anytime you're avoiding thermal imaging equipment cool the outer surface lay down on the stream turn around and flop your back in the stream or a pond or puddle whatever you got but undercover don't just walk out into a field come on Common sense, what happens is this improves the outer surface thermal transfer, reduces calories, it reduces that external temperature. Now someone's going to say, oh it doesn't work for very long. Well that's true. Eventually it's going to come back up to field temperature and body temperature. For the time that it's there and for as long as the clothing is wet, you're shedding calories more efficiently because it works just like it does. Oh wait a minute, where else do we do this? How about car radiators, guys? Half of it's the glycol so it doesn't freeze. The other half is just plain old water because it's a great way to shed calories. See how that works reduce overall temperature. So these are little tricks that work now. There's other technology I'm talking about getting caught out in the breeze stuck in a situation where you have to work with what you got Now, we don't have to talk about anti-thermal technology. We've covered that on the air quite a few times. But I just want to touch on that. Remember, do as the natives do. Conceal and act naturally but put as much material between you and the threat as possible, especially when you think it's thermal or IR. 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Get your Bedfan by going to bedfan.com or calling area code 210-632-8280. intelligence report. Hey, it's third November, almost six here on the east coast. Hey, did you set your clock back? We're an hour working about yesterday, a magnetic field. If you have an AM radio and a driving antenna, you guys, you got set up in your field with amateur radio bands, too many of them actually trying to do them out somewhere you want people to know you're there to make you guys and, you know, to touch again on that tomorrow. And the one thing I was going to tell Don real quick is guys we shoot a deer shoot him in the head. They don't run off. They don't bleed out Orange about eating horns anyway, I think called snap cards just look that up Google it system that you can get these cards and start figure out how to use a mill dot run use a mill dot master It'll help you understand the math But you start using your brain to be the computer not having to use a solar pewter turn a flashlight on look at your computer to slide rule or anything else like I used to have guys that's a just a training aid card. It's pretty neat It's not a bad idea. My son-in-law in the Army uses them. He trains his boys with them. So I know they work. I don't have a need for them, but a lot of people do. The R-MIL.scope is the bang for the buck. www.mwba.com. That's Star Whiskey, Foxtrot Alpha. Firearms. In red oak, Texas. Chris is the owner. He'll hook you up. It was a military contract scope. Problem, when I was on active duty, we got away from it. He went back, found out about the quality issues, made it back better. maybe contract back with it and the guys are using it because you can fire it. If you have any problems with it, you send it back. It's $300, 10 power, 16 power or 20 power. It's a great scope, $300 a piece. You can't for the bank of the buck and what they are, square and you guys are real shooters, you understand what I'm saying? They will shoot the square. You run the, if you got a 50, 338, something long distance, 300 WV Magnum is fine, down to 223. You guys are the one with the good mill dots, because that's all you need. And like I said, it's awesome. And let's get you one of those ferric 50s on top of your AR. You got a bolt deck. And like I said, you have a lot of people real good. But you know what? If you're going to put a tent, you're probably, although your spotter probably will also be carrying higher magnification spotting scope. You can do a lot with 10 power though, you guys. In particular, if you have to look over through that 60 power to look at right where the target is, and then you acquire the target with the 10 power, and everything is fine. That's true. Now, David, see if you really got the need to shoot real long distance out in more open country, you didn't get the 10 power as all I ever used, and that was good enough thought, guys. If you've got a variable breakaway power, that's usually for just go ahead and get a 6 per 10.10. And if you get the ARMS, then you can swap scopes for the weapons. That's good. Alright, so if you got a 50, you got the opportunity to shoot at the father, then the power got to be right on target, and it was good enough. And I, you know, we'd shoot out from 1500 yards with just a 10-power scope. All I needed was a crossing target, like Don said, for spotting scope from 20 to 60. I'll back on out and let y'all go for it. But like the guys, think about the incandescent light bulbs. If you really don't try to get out somewhere and port these things. Right. All these dead gum. They're not as energy efficient, but they do not give off an EMF, electromagnetic field, that you can be tracked down. You got a compound you're trying to hide out in the woods somewhere, and you click on that fluorescent because you're trying to save money to save electricity on your batteries. You're just giving away a signal for them to track how they were tracking some of the bad boys on the rock. They listened to Underground, and they were trying to save on their batteries. They went right to them, they saw a signature out there. They shouldn't have been there. And there's actually another couple tricks here too. Appreciate it, Marcus. We're going to come up with a new- God bless y'all. Thank you. Thank you. You too. And we have another caller. We have- Hello, caller. Our second- Don. Yeah, it's down here. Oh, go right ahead, please. Yeah. I've been trying to get into the chat room, having a little bit of a problem. Is there some secrets or what do I do? Just enter a name and go? Or how's that work? I'll tell you what, hold on right here. Ed's going to talk you right into it. Alright, yeah, the chatroom is actually extremely easy to use. It's a simple Java chatroom. You do not need a password. All you do is come up with a nickname for yourself and hit the enter key. It will take a second to load depending on how fast your computer and your connection is. And you'll be in the chatroom and you can chat with everybody else that's in there. If you're in the chatroom, can you listen to the hour at the same time? Yes, you can. Is it sensitive to Firefox better than something? I mean I'm using Firefox and I'm on a Linux system. I honestly don't know. It shouldn't be a problem. It's just a basic Java chat or if you have, once you get into that, if you have the know-how you can get it on other chat services like Trillion and I'm trying to think of the other one, MiRC. So, you can get it through other chat systems and once you get in there once, the guys in the chat room are very helpful if you ask. Some of them will probably help you figure out an easier way to get in, but it's pretty straightforward right now. You just create a nickname, click connect and you're in. Okay. Yeah, I've been sitting there waiting for it to come up, so I'll see how long it takes to come in. I've been trying to hook up with some groups and I haven't been able to get a hold of anybody. Let's do it this way real quick. Ed, is there anybody on the screen right there in the chat room that is making any recommendations right now? Right now I don't have that window open. I'm sorry. I'm working on something else that's close to the end of the program. Yep, we are getting close. As a matter of fact, so I'll tell you what, here's the thing to do. Try to reconnect again. This is a good point, actually. For anybody out there listening, first of all, go to Liberty Tree Radio. Tap the chatroom key. When you get into the chatroom, typically it should only come up with a little box that already gives you two options. One is you type in whatever name you want to go by. It can be your name, it can be your code name, whatever number you want to use. And then all you do is hit connect and it should lock your writing. And like you said, it should take only a minute or two at the most. usually not two minutes unless your system's slow and then you're in the chat room and you can talk with the guys. If you have to go to another machine or another system tie in that way and then talk to them about a solution. How's that sound? Alright, thanks a lot guys. Not a problem. God bless. And ladies and gentlemen we are at the top of this hour. We gotta let everybody go for the moment. The first hour of the intel report on Monday and the afternoon is done. We'll be back in about seven minutes here. God bless the republic. Show prevail ladies and gentlemen, the empire is on the run. Blue Rock. Sixpanets kicking down the road, give them a backpack full of diving machines and swing halfway back on this flight. Thank you, Don. Collectors, outdoor enthusiasts, survivalists, the Army-Navy Store from your memory as a child is just that, a memory. But there is still one place to find everything from gas masks to ammo cans and find it cheap. MainMilitary.com. Get hard to find objects like real wool blankets for under 20 bucks, canteens for just $2, or trioxane fuel for just $1.