October 27, 2008
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Mark Koernke and Donald Betcher discussed militia organization and preparedness on October 27, 2008. The hosts emphasized the importance of purchasing firearms and ammunition, announced the expansion of the Wolverine militia across Michigan with plans for a state commander election, and addressed operational security and recruitment challenges within militia formations. They fielded calls from listeners in Louisiana and Missouri regarding militia training, veteran involvement, and long-term commitment to militia service, while drawing historical parallels to the American Revolution and Civil War to illustrate military tactics and leadership principles.
- wolverine militia
- michigan militia
- operational security
- opsec
- gun purchases
- ammunition
- militia training
- cadre formations
- state commander
- preparedness
- second amendment
- veterans
- civil war battlefield
- esprit de corps
- colonial marines
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Live 365 Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Both sons of the Republic arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torture freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watching tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free and home? Well, good evening ladies and gentlemen, this is the Intelligence Report. I'm Mark Kornge. And I'm Donald Betcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, west, southwest, central, and northeast. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, live 365. Then go to Liberty Tree Radio, and you're also on AM&FM micro stations, CB Bay stations, alternate technologies, both east and west of the Mississippi, and southern and central Alaska. Well today Don is hey you guys it's 27 October and as repeated earlier in the day It's a great day to buy a gun That's right and one of the things we need to be doing is heading for the gun shows the flea markets Any place where people are actually deciding they want to walk in or dispose of firearms Well link up with them say hello and do the right thing give that firearm a home that's most important right now. But ammunition of any kind and ammunition components are critical. As many of you that are listening right now know, we have been on a information database proliferation program, if you want to call it that. And what we have been doing is making copies of critical components of the inventory that we have and we're shipping them out to and carrying them in hand to our allies all across the country. The Wolverine militia meeting that took place This Saturday went very well. I think everybody was satisfied. We made a decision that the Wolverine militia, which is one of the founding militia elements that was very public in the 90s and is still in place, is going to be expanded completely, cover the whole of the state, and where there are any holes are going to be filled, any place where there is an individual element that may simply be offline completely. There is more than sufficient manpower to replace it completely. And so that's where we're headed right now. The Colonial Marine Militia will help out, Hautari Militia. There are many other elements that are militias here in the state of Michigan. Well guess what guys, we're going to do our part to make sure that things happen. So in two weeks we will have a date for the state meeting to elect a new state commander. per the Wolverine militia guidelines for the state of Michigan. They're already in place. And we have an excellent mechanism, like everything else we see here in this country, to organize and to establish a good working relationship amongst these many counties with regard to the Wolverines. And we're going to do just that. I have to say, I've stood in the room a couple of times when those votes happen. And the votes are counted. The votes are counted honestly. Yeah. Like the upcoming election. Yeah, exactly. As a matter of fact, they're paper ballots and however long it takes to count them, you know, well, nobody does, hurry up, hurry up. I need to know now. I need to know now. Instead, people are really cool and they just kind of, you know, get the job done. So, that's what we expect to see. One of the things that we were discussing, and this is something I'll bring up because we have a lot of militias that are listening right now, is first of all, yes, militias vote in their commanders. This is a tradition of the United States people. It is something that goes back all the way to the founding of this nation and any goof or moron or incompetent who doesn't understand that needs to research and go back through the history of this country because well just because they want to do the centrist socialist or social monarchist they want control and their control freaks and power freaks or whatever you know it's you know power power power with every other word. Anyway, in our case, nope, we're unleashing those creatures. That's the whole idea behind the militia being in place as the countermeasure to the coercive force of a police state. and to put it down when it decides to get stupid because that is what's going to happen there's no doubt in anybody's mind there's no question anybody who thinks otherwise I'll tell you what shake the rocks out of your head because the bad guys they are coming they're trying to figure out how to get away with it and so we have a lot of eyes and ears on the ground across the country that are watching in many directions and at many points but it's very fascinating here that the true colors of a lot of creatures are going to be seen now As there is less wiggle room, they will become more atrocious and outrageous in their attempts to appease or to suck up to the bad guys on the other side. Watch and see what happens. And don't be amazed at who you see try to do this. Okay? I'm going to say that too right now. Now, militia formations out there for the many states, how I would like to see this work with this cycle with the Wolverines, and this is a recommendation, but the people are going to have to choose a path on this, and that's what the state meeting is for. Ideally, it would be for the state commander to rotate every six months. Now if they choose to keep the commander I understand but every six months there needs to be a Roll call vote and a representation of each of the county brigades So that you know the brigades from their respective counties and the division commanders so that they validate this But the optimal situation and let me explain what I've been trying to explain to many of the command personnel and many rank and file is That we have a vast number of people that are coming into the militia effort. Okay? The numbers are big. The problem is dealing with these numbers. Now, one of the reasons we need to rotate the state commanders with these militia formations for the sake of experience, and they may not have six months time sitting in the command seat having to deal with management issues, but if we're lucky we'll pull another six months out of this. I don't think we're going to get it, but if we do establish the system, the cycle for peacetime resolution here is so that we build a larger experienced command staff for expansion. The militia formations are cadre formations. Even though they're large, remember you have an influx of people coming in. You're going to have to organize, regiment, and then categorize. You have air mech. We got conventional armor. We've got paraconventional forces. You've got light infantry, heavy infantry. You've got colonial marines. We've got air personnel, the whole nine yards. We've got everything that any of the other services have. And we have it in a more diverse manner because we use a wider range of technologies. We are not limited the way the US military is with regard to how narrow they are with the training of their troops. And to be quite honest, not insulting, it's just the nature of the beast that they don't want their troops to be that cognizant of other systems. On the other hand, we're pretty well qualified, as I kind of pointed out to everybody. We started out with a policy of you will understand and know how to use as many diverse weapons systems as possible. Our younger troops, especially years ago, now these young men are in their 20s, 30s, and some are even in their early 40s. We're trained and cross trained if they're in mechanized armor to handle equipment that most armored personnel have never even laid hands on or haven't had a chance to cross train on. and there's a reason for that. They can walk in, step into the seat, you know, jump into the seat of say a Bradley Fighting Vehicle or an M113 or a BTR 60 or a Marder APC and many other older vehicles or variants and literally start them up and run them down the road. Why? Well Don, once you've killed the crews on an enemy vehicle it might be kind of nice to use it. See how that works? So familiarize yourself with every internal aspect of the systems that are out there that you may just walk into or come across or capture when the time comes. No matter the avenue. You know, we bring up Hank Hill sometimes, Mark. And sometimes we bring up Darryl Gribble. You know, Darryl, the guy who knows everything about the New World Order but doesn't know what his wife is doing with the Indian down the street. They make him out to be a fool. But, you know, Darryl Gribble learned Russian to read the Russian manual for the Abrams tank, and he was prepared when his buddy across the street, the sergeant, got drunk and brought an Abrams tank home one day. Now, the white thing was... We're talking about animated people. But, hmm, let me see here. Thomas Jefferson called your life an animated contest, and they didn't have cartoons then. No matter what it takes, no matter what venue you need to get to where you want to be. If you want to be proficient with guns, if you have to learn how to turn a wrench and take them apart and put them together, you know, screwdrivers and whatnot, the mechanical ends of it, if that's what it takes, become proficient. It's one thing to pick up a gun and be able to shoot, but can you be a gunsmith? If that gun broke, could you fix it and bring it back to the battle? If the car that took you to the battle broke, or the light armored vehicle, could you fix it? 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Now you might wonder why I'm fixating on this because there are those that think that probably if you've listened through the whole of the date, man, Don's just fixated on a great day to buy a gun. But you know what? When the European Union says America is such an evil entity in the world, spreading its evil doings around the world, that they feel that they need a vote for the American president, Europeans voting for the American president, because of the Americas influence around the world. I repeat myself. It is a great day to buy a gun. I'll be quiet now, Mark. Well, here again, one of the interesting things about it is that every place we've gone where they sell weapons, guess what, guys? They are seeing... About the only one in America now. Yeah, everybody is backed up and stacked and is seeing standing room only activity. How do I say this? Every report, and there's some I can't talk about because there's been some private meetings too, everybody right now is flabbergasted at the response that they're seeing, but they shouldn't be surprised. And that's something that I want to stress right now with some of the conversations that I just had like today and you know the last you know several days with people out of state and people in different locations. This is what we expected guys. This is what we were anticipating long ago. We know what's going to happen is people are slapped awake not by us. We don't have to hit anybody. The other side is kicking them in the knees jabbing them in the gut slapping them in the face. oh yeah and reaching in their pocketbook while they're doing that's what i've been held everybody because of muggers do that okay so now the chief mugger's are all telling everybody that uh... congratulations here we go this is what's going to happen now what do you think is going to what do you think is going to develop their chiching I think that the writing is on the wall for a lot of people at the very least and I don't complain. In fact, you'll never hear me and I never have complained. If people respond and simply do this because they've heard that other people are doing it, you know what? It's like food storage. I don't care if people decide to do it for that reason. When the disaster or the crisis develops that you're preparing for or if you're trying to avert it, If it's planned, and typically most of them are, and they're trying to develop crisis, that can't happen when more people are prepared. See, crisis is based on the idea you STUPIFY everybody to the point where they sit there with their head up their butt or shall we say one thumb up between the fundamental orifice and the other one in their mouth. And when the government says rotate, they do. And they get a nasty taste, but they were just ordered to do it and they just couldn't help it because they didn't know what else to do. That's what they would like to see happen, but that's not what we're going to let happen. And the more people that are armed, the more people that are equipped, the more people that wake up, the more the numbers change. Okay? They have to start calculating things because it's not... The old question was, what are you going to do when they come to your door? And that's not the question to ask. The question to ask is, what are you going to do when they go to your neighbor's door first? See, imagine if you will, and we're not in a neighborhood quite like that, of course, hell, there's a bunch of houses here that are empty people and have been for a year and a half because of the depression we're in, okay? People just haven't heard about it yet, so to speak, you know what I mean? Oh, it's a recession. Remember, they wouldn't even admit that there was a recession issue, but look at the stock market today. Stock market hit a little over the what I think 8200 mark. Continuing to slide as expected but where was it a month ago or a month and a half ago? If you look at the numbers aren't we at half the value in terms of numbers with the stock market? At what point do you stop using the word recession, the R word, and acknowledge the word depression? Well Mark it must be a depression because you know this Even the word that the government was going to send, what, $700 billion with a B like boy, billion dollars into the banking industry, that did not even phase the down slide, did it? Did not even throw a chalk in front of the wheel, did it? Not at all. Must be in the... Well, and again, here's the thing. The economic issue in and of itself is what's going to be one of the tools that they use to, they hope, create riot and crisis. That's not going to be the case. But what they are going to try to do is they're going to use some excuse to go door to door. They've already been yapping. Oh, we've got to appease the Europeans. You know how the Europeans can stick it. Take a flying leap. Yeah, same with any of these other jackasses when it comes to anything like that. You know what? You sit on that side of the water. You ain't bothering us, we ain't bothering you. You start yapping your gums about how we need to do something your way and you can stick it. And we'll make sure we use a hammer to drive it up. Well, lookit. You got Bama Lamadhingdon going to Europe there. Was he in Germany when he was talking about he's a citizen of the world and a citizen of the United States? And you know, the way you order things is symbolic there. The way he ordered those, he didn't say it, but first he's a citizen of the world, and then he's a citizen of America. I'm a citizen of the world and I'm a citizen of America. See how that works? It's the subtle little influences, or rather the word I'm looking for, nuances there, Mark. And again, just the way the words are arranged. But he laid them out that way, didn't he? None of the world. Happy to turn America over to the North American Union and then right on into the New World Order so Europeans can vote for him in four years? Could that be the game plan, Mark? Now, exactly. In fact, I think they're going to kick it in, as we've said, right from the beginning. They're going to show you exactly what these traders are all about, what kind of betrayal they are involved in, and why it is we need to be ready to deal with the problem. And that's what that's what we're looking at here. Oh We have a caller to who do we have we got you go right ahead Mike and Louisiana Oh Mike just listening. He stopped in to say hi. Yeah. Well very good What's going on down there in the Louisiana? I'll tell you what we got blue skies after we had rain all day went clear and now It might get bitter cold tonight. What's Michigan like? Well, what about up where Don is what's your situation? the No, the air conditioner is not... I don't know. Don't need the air conditioner now. No? That's a good one. So what's the weather temperature right now? About 6. We can live with that up here. You can send 30 degrees our way. That wouldn't hurt. You wouldn't mind that. Well, we're supposed to get down to in the 30s in the next week. Front's reaching pretty far down into the constant. Oh yeah. Is it Louisiana? I don't know, too soon to tell. It depends on the minus and the duration. Right. Y'all go ahead. Well, interestingly enough, thank you very much, Mike. Appreciate that. And real quick here, guys, because there's a couple questions I've been asked, by the way, even in the chat room, too, which overlap with what we've been dealing with in the militia for a long, long time. So let's go back to my, again, we can reference history to explain how things work. But before we do, I'll tell you, I'm gonna probably hold this back for a bit, but I want you to keep your old thinking caps on here and realize that all of the problems we see with the militia today as far as how to secure things, it's called OPSEC, Operational Security. Not OPSEC, it's called OPSEC, O-P-S-E-C, Operational Security. Now part of the way that that's dealt with, guys, is by all of you cooperating and knowing who's who in the zoo. Remember at the county level, the township level, you should have some idea of who is in your community. That's your job. Many of the formations in the militias are made up of individuals who have known each other for years, decades, and in many cases all of their lives. That's right. So it's kind of hard for him to go, well, he slipped this one in. Excuse me, yeah, especially when I think he's a guy dad. Oh Okay, wait a minute point at somebody else that's that's my son there, okay Well, you see that's the problem with that nonsense doesn't work that way But what we've got to do is we have to remind people that yeah there does there has to be a certain amount of screening and there also has to be a Certain amount of inclusion. You've got a given point make a decision a personal gauging yourself now That's something we addressed to a limited degree, although again, and I'm going to relate to this after we go to the bottom of the hour break, about historical variance on what has happened even with everybody knowing everybody, etc., etc., and it's part of our nation's history. You're probably thinking, oh, he's talking about Benedict Arnold. No, there's other situations you don't hear about as much. We're going to be back. We're going to go to break. You got Donna Mark, Intel Report, live here on Liberty Tree Radio, back in three. In the next video, we'll be back with more. Advanced teams on the ground infiltrating to their objectives. Colonial Marines are the battlefields of today and into the future. If you would like to join the men who make the difference, send a self-addressed stamped envelope to... Dexter, Michigan, 48130. Colonial Marines serving in all 50 states. Serving America and America. Swift, silent, and deadly. We're listening to Liberty Tree Radio, lighting the path to freedom. And ladies and gentlemen, we are back. This is the Intelligence Report Liberty Tree Radio. Tell you what, before we get into subject here, we have at least one caller, maybe more, and our caller is... from Missouri. recruiting and then keeping people, I don't like to use the word recruiting, but you know, it's hard to get people to stay focused and keep interest and understand what's at hand. You seem to have had a lot of success in your state doing this. I've got a letter out to you. I didn't know if you would mail me back on information that could help us along these lines. Well, we are working on that. In fact, that was one of the reasons we have been very, very busy here. This weekend was a critical weekend with a meeting that took place in the middle of the state dealing with the Wolverines on this same subject. The Wolverines, which are one of the older militia formations that have seen a lot of publicity, has kind of fogged. Part of that is because of a number of different It's because of a number of different individuals who weren't really interested so much in the militias. They were making it quote-unquote a political statement as opposed to what it's supposed to be, which is a militia fighting force. And some of these individuals, which is why we address this issue of OPSEC, were actually cavorting with the other side to a degree. Now they were doing it thinking this was their way of playing politics and manipulating the internal mechanisms of the militia. That's a fact. We know this beyond a shadow of a doubt. In fact, they flat-out acknowledged and admitted in different drunken states after they realized that they were being seen for who they were and they they ended up with a whole bunch of problems because they couldn't fool anybody anymore. That's happened. It's interesting that still the militia element can you know has proceeded the different amount of militias have succeeded not just here but around the country. The most important is you have to set a standard and that's one of the things that we've been discussing here again with the revitalization of certain elements of the Wolverines. The problem is people on the one hand you know don't like organization, don't like regimentation, but militias do require that. The militia is the foundation of all military formations, even what you call the regulars. The regulars are the final step in a progressive, generational process with military activity. The problem is that always, as the Founding Fathers have warned, when any nation commits to regular forces, they become anal-retentive control freaks. They get to the point where they feel that it's I, I, I, me, me, me, and nobody else, and so they become the optimal tool for a police state. We've got this big old standing army. What can we do with it? That's right. And inevitably, all of these, and you're seeing this right now, you see this at the international level, where it gets to the point where they relate more with the other, quote unquote, professional soldiers than they do with the people of their own nation. Now part of that's a problem with the, again, the whole socialist agenda, etc. that's tied in. To come back to the individual, for all the people in these militia formations, esprit de corps is critical. See, one of the things is, first of all, why are you making any apologies for anything? I have argued this over and over again to everybody. Have you ever seen the enemy apologize ever about anything that they do? Do they apologize after they beat the snot out of somebody and murder them? Do you hear them going, oh, we need to fix the system? No, they'll tell you it was an aberration, an alien little situation, except that if you do what we do in radio and you do it for as long as we've done it, plus beforehand where we do it, how we got into radio is because we watch these abuses build up step by step, week by week, month by month, year by year. See I can go back through the whole history of this through the 80s into the 90s to where we are now and everybody goes Oh, we got to stop and oh don't talk about the militia Oh, we need to do this because if we do this they'll just listen and be everything will be right as rain Peace love dope, you know that work for you Well, see, I'm not apologetic for it. Exactly. Never have been. That's good. Well, but the problem is, this is what we have to instill in everybody else's participant. OK, guys, get motivated. We're in this for the long haul. First of all, militias are not designed to be reaction sticks for the temporary or short-term action that just seems to be on the horizon. One of the reasons that the militia was so successful in 1775 and had all kinds of problems even at that time, which is part of what I'm going to work in, you're actually asking some good questions here that tie into this, is that on the one hand, there were people that joined because they saw the short-term problem and they were agitated for the moment. There were many though who looked at this as a long-term affair because they understood the history, they understood the workings of oppression and tyranny and how it would build up. So if they were frustrated and short-termers in 1765 when everybody thought the revolution would start, A bunch of people kind of went, well, it's going to happen. Well, OK, it's going to happen. But stay calm, stay focused. If it doesn't, we're training as we always have. We're building up strength. We're going to continue to get stronger. We're going to continue to build up our formations. And well, I want it to happen now. And I understand the reasoning behind that. But there are people who got frustrated because it just didn't happen at that particular moment. And they got diverted by other processes, etc. Not from the peaceful end, just so much as, again, they got lazy. And they laid down. Right, this is a lifetime commitment. That's the one thing we have to instill in all of our people. Each person you talk to and each person you recruit, what all of you need to do is establish a program that we're in, and again, tapes and videos are a great thing for this. You need to do a little class, and I don't mean sit in a monotone and just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm talking about make it dynamic. There are so many tools we can use now that we can create on our own. We don't need to have somebody else do it, or you can do a history of the militia, a history of the United States, the dynamics of what brought us to becoming a nation. And that is part of the esprit de corps that is the history and foundation of the militia. If we're in I'll do it. I mean hell I'm gonna have to sit down there's a whole bunch of stuff I have to sit down you like I got enough time in the world now But we have to sit down and do videos like this I guess so that we can give them out to you guys and you can plop somebody down front of a television screen more than one person and you Oh you want don't want to do them for an hour or two hours at a time in this case kind of like what you see with YouTube we need about a 15 minute block of instruction and then ask some questions And then you sit down with the people who just watch the video and say, okay, what do you think about that? Let's talk about this. Ask them questions. You know, we'll get people to gun shows, get them interested, and then it gets cold in the winter, so it's time to quit training. Well there again, you've got to change that attitude. Guys, it's temper. I guess it's Missouri. You guys get nicer weather than we do it. I understand. You know, I pose that question every hunting season. at the beginning of the deer season here. Can you sit in your blind all morning? Well, there's that contract with the deer. They all lay down between 11 and 2, you know. Yeah, there was a bloke. You go to lunch and come back, and then you sit in your blind all afternoon. Could you sit in your blind all day? How about all week? How about a month until supplies come or you are relieved? How about sitting there, being supplied and holding that ground all winter long? Could you do that? I've posed that question many a time. That's a good point, Don. Another thing is I would really like for us to be able to get more veterans involved. It seems like I'm a veteran and it seems like veterans tend to shy away from this. are you finding that up there? No, no, this is good because it's a mix. There are a lot of veterans who are organizing on their own. And we have some too, but it just doesn't seem like enough. It just helps so much. Well, part of that is again the whole idea that to a degree, you've got to remember they've been vilified, even though they're not the way that they were in Vietnam. You guys don't have Coming back from Iraq, you don't see the bad guys have learned not to do this too by the way. In Vietnam, guys came back and were attacked literally at the airport. That got to the point where men actually organized to meet the veterans, the guys coming back at the airports to protect them. People forget this stuff. So this time around, these guys are actually coming home and now they're kind of perturbed in the other direction because a lot of them aren't getting the flags or the banners they thought they were going to have a parade when they got back or something like that. And instead it's like, yeah, you're home, congratulations, and you better go find a job application or at least go down to the basement and watch television. Okay, get out of the way. Burger King like the young man I met about three years ago, Mark, and I brought this up on the air. He had his Veteran of Desert Storm II t-shirt on working at Burger King. I started talking with him. I started talking with him about the militia. You should be taking all of your skills and spreading them into the people. He looked at me like I was crazy. He looked at me like I was a traitor. He looked at me and said, My officers say that that's illegal. I never walked away from him. Well, you know what, I'll tell you something. I'll give you an example at Knob Creek. There was a shit load of people, and excuse me, there was a whole pile of people, there we go, was that the polite way to say it, that took every fire we'd get our hands on. And there was one character, and I had to laugh my, and you know what, you don't understand, where at such a point, had somebody who was, thought he was, there was one, one out of, God knows how many thousands, I mean thousands. who turned and did the, well that's a militia, you know, if you're in the military, it's illegal. He realizes, I took the sheet right back from him and I gave it right to somebody else and I completely ignored him. You know, he didn't know what the hell to say because he was thinking he was going to do all this debating. Nah, get on a road. I don't have time. fire team and we'll train at night, we'll train at day, we do first aid, we're training with blanks. We're doing a lot of stuff and there are veterans in there that have really led well and I've learned lots over the years. But I don't know what to do to keep people's interest. time is real short. I've been in this a long, long time. Well, one of the things I'd recommend, and this is something I talked about, and this comes back to the old policies of the General Staff War College. You know that the General Staff War College, and this is something you need to do even with your rank and file, but it hasn't been done in a long time. You need to pick a local battlefield. And I'm serious, I know you're in Missouri, you could probably go south a little more, or you could go over the Mississippi. and a little to the south and you can find yourself first do a little history digging and you can pick a Civil War battlefield and actually go to it and it's pretty much accessible and open. and walk people through and explain to them and have them visualize the action. Now somebody immediately is going to say, oh that's really crazy, that's the Civil War. Do you realize, have you ever studied, have you ever had anybody who studied at West Point or studied at Annapolis or who has studied, for instance, any of the war colleges? Do you understand that many of the battles of the Civil War are still studied today because they are considered some of the classic actions of history? That's very true. We have plenty in Missouri here, by the south of the Blymen that were allowed here. Yes. And one of the things you can do is take people and walk them through and explain, consider this, because they were actually quite mobile actions in many cases. I mean, despite what everybody thinks, it was horseback and foot. But that's how a lot of conventional actions will be. The only change is, instead of horse, it'll be light mechanized, or it's going to be heavy mechanized, with air mobile and with integrated combined arms. But the important thing is to take people through and then walk through, like read through the history real quick. And you don't have to dwell on it a lot, but just give them, even do a sandbox on it if you want to in advance or pull out some decent mapping. And then what you do is you walk them across the battlefield and you actually explain to them, here's what happened at this point. Read that account right there for me. And get them involved in this and then ask them, how would you have dealt with this? Here you are in a situation where you're an outnumbered formation and if you look at it, then this is a classic, the Civil War is full of these. At Vicksburg, there was an outnumbered Texas Legion. I don't know if everybody knows this. They stood off against us Michiganders and they kicked rumpus and took names outnumbered four and five to one. And it's like we're going to go to break. Now you know that's something, I look at the history elements here, when you look at the numbers you'd think, oh they just couldn't do it when you come back to the reality. with the spirit and the gumption, they completely changed the tide of the battle. We're going to be back in three minutes here. 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And as Mark offered up many examples, there are places, and I've said this before, you know, our government, our government had us so befuddled 150 years ago that we were killing each other. That we were killing each other. We need not to fall into that again. And that's another reason to stay in a militia. If you sit and lay out the logical progression, there was militia before there were United States Marines, and there were Marines before there was the United States. Am I right? I know I'm right. The one thing that's important is the spree decor is pride in our units, pride in ourselves, and pride in performance. First of all, what we need to start doing is emphasizing that and like you pointed out the whole issue of a seasonal training That's not how it works or or knows no date time or place as far as a checkout time Except when it comes to probably being hitting and you know taken out of the game Other than that any hour of the day and that's one of the hardest things for a lot of people to understand There's no timeout eight hours are done got to go over to the car now anybody got any coffee? Yeah, well that's all done Okay. We train hard. We've done exercises on the border. We do live fire. We really do a lot of interesting stuff. It's very frustrating because all the years I've been in it, it always comes down to the same core group. Well, let me ask you this. It's a two-edged sword to a certain extent. The people that come and go. Do you get a phone number or an address? Are you trying to stay in contact with them? We do that and I think it's leadership to some degree to where they lose interest. Yes, they do get called and say, hey, we've got an FTX coming up in a couple weeks, you're going to be there, can you make it? We'll do that and it just thins out. I think part of it. We'll get up 16 to 20 guys and before you know it, we're down to six or eight. Well, part of that cyclically, remember, if nothing else, you've built up cadre in terms of contact. Because that happens too. And we do that. We get these guys outfitted. We get them an FN and get them outfitted, get their LBE. And we put a lot of time into it. So it's not like they go away empty-headed, empty-handed. No, because again one of the things to remember is your core personnel as long as they're sticking to it again this happens there are people who have made contact they Participate for a period of time as things progress and get worse and this is what's happening right now with a lot of people and I'm talking to it's like all these people have been in touch with for you know Like one week three weeks nine weeks a year two years five years all of a sudden they're coming out of the woodworks Oh my god things are getting bad. We need to fill in the blank you know I mean we need to do something well we should have been doing you should have been doing something with all of us all this time but I'm not going to complain about that personally when they show up integrate them back into the system or be prepared to do that this is what it's talking about with cadre forces remember The cadre element, in the Russians they call them C-category units. C-category units, we have just what we call, uh, skeletonized formations or cadre units that are built up right now that are, that were part of the reserve and also part of the guard and even part of the active army. At one time this formula has changed back and forth. They were made up of the officers and NCOs and a limited number of rank and file enlisted men to maintain the basic maintenance of the formation, but it wasn't fleshed out. And the logic is that as mobilization takes place, specific guard units or specific new recruits would be cycled into these formations to flesh out the manpower tables to complete them. This is where cadre work is most important for what we're doing right now. And you've already explained that you have a core group of people. I would add one more dimension to this, and it's war gaming. Now, where war gaming came from is from the military. At least all the stuff that I see right now The newer stuff, I mean even back, let's go back 20 years ago. Everything that you see in the War Board, Wargaming concept came from the US Army Intelligence Centers or came from the General Staff War College where they were trying to come up with realistic ways to create multi-dimensional scenarios so that you could overview a battlefield situation and walk through it and interact with it. Are you talking as one cohesive unit and looking at various situations or having two separate groups? You can do it, but actually, this is one of the other things we were talking about, like command development. Example is give one person the task of working as a team leader. and in the board game or in the sandbox scenarios, what you want to do is you want to get people to walk them through what-if situations. You have two fire teams, you have this objective, you make this contact, now you have to have kind of a referee to do this. Somebody who's going to be as kind of like playing Dungeons and Dragons or there are many variations on the theme. But the point is that you have to get them to visualize. This also keeps their mind busy too and it's a situation where no matter what you get into, You can actually make this a part of the end event of a training exercise or a training activity to bring everybody inside. They're more relaxed, but you're still going to get their brain gears going. And it's most important after they've physically moved because see the problem I have with a lot of these computer games is, you know, wait a minute. I'm going to switch from my M14. Okay. That weighs nine pounds. Get me up out of my little pocket, my shoulder, and I've got three rockets with it. Okay. Now that's cool and it's a lot of fun, but it's the old story kind of like what my one instructor said years ago. I was carrying my ultralight tent, my ultranite web gear, my ultralight rifle, and my ultralight magazines. By the time I was done it wasn't very ultralight. You know, because even when you do shave everything to the lightest possible dimension it all gets heavy real fast. Well here's another to make. I know we're coming to the top of the hour, but I would ask the question. You wish you rank? We do, yeah. Okay. Now if somebody leaves, he comes back two months. Maybe he takes the winner off. Does he come back? He has his rank? He does at this point. Read Sun's Soo. Read the Art of War because some men love rank and some men hate to lose their rank. And we really don't emphasize it and it's not really done in a super organized way. But now rankers are supposed to be good examples, aren't they? Supposed to be the example. But I will tell you, men of rank, It's a handful and it's not giving up. There has to be a culling process or a qualification process to demonstrate the ability of the individual to lead. And that's another element we're late in the program to talk about that. But these are subjects need to be covered. And I want to touch on one more thing. You have to wonder where it claims. Stay where we are. I didn't mean to take up your whole hour. No, no. That's OK. No, this is perfect. But here's another thing from the chat room was OPSEC. It is the year 1775. It is after April 19th. 20,000 men are sieging the city of Boston, 20,000 militia plus. All of a sudden the cry goes out from the commander of the watch as he goes to the headquarters and announces that three individuals within the militia, to include the number three man in command, had defected to the other side to the British garrison, and it turns out that they were spies who had been working for the British all along. The entire siege had to be shifted immediately. Now, you don't hear a whole lot of emphasis on this now because the bad guys don't want you to think about it either. And we've already taken this into consideration for years. No matter how you try to deal with this people, it can happen. It is not likely to happen if you've done your job. But in this case, don't you think that they had actually been making an effort with the Sons of Liberty to screen and monitor and to make sure they knew who was who? And yet it still happened even as the war began. So it will not be a surprise instead improvise adapt overcome be prepared for the worst you won't be disappointed It's that simple and again plan on continuing to fight the fight until we win no matter what transpires When I fall somebody else takes my place when that person falls the next person takes his place If we're lucky even if we're just on one knee we get to the other end We've won we outrun we outgun we out fight the enemy. That's our objective Oh good. Oh Clayton Thank you, sir. We're going to extend on this tomorrow again, too. Thank you. This is a subject we need to continue. God bless. We gotta go, guys. God bless the Republic. We shall prevail. The Empire is on the run. From all points of the compass, people, victory is our goal. Liberty together. Thank you, Don. Thank you, Mike. Thank you, Clayton. outdoor enthusiast survivalist. The Army Navy Store from your memory as a child is just that on memory. But there is still one place to find everything from gas masks to ammo cans and find it cheap. MainMilitary.com. Get hard to find objects like real wool blankets for under 20 bucks. Canteen for just $2. Or trioxane fuel for just a dollar a box. MAINE Military.com with free shipping on items over $150. Not including heavy items. Find surplus items for cheap now. Like 30 caliber cleaning kit for just $299. a piece or a dozen for $30. Flair pistols are only $25. Want to add a brand new Israeli gas mask to your collection? Kids in adult sizes are just $20. Get G3 mags for just $2 or a military fuel cap for only $16. Add this iPhone holes for another $7.99. Find it all online at mainmilitary.com. 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