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Now, real quick here guys, it's a special day today. Don, what day is it? Hey, it's 15 October you guys, that means it's Wednesday and if you listen, one in the chamber, the slide is closed, the well is full, perimeter is secure. And now we have equal opportunity coercive force at hand prepared deal with any problem that arises On that note you might need something to put in that pellet shooter you've got and Don I'm gonna remind everybody about surplus especially guys see Yeah, what's surplus what little there is? One thing to remember a lot of the new Russian stuff is just that new Russian stuff So we don't know what deals anybody's made with the back door bad guys that kind of thing you know it works However, if we can find real surplus, stuff that came from say the 70s, the 80s, or the 90s, early 90s ideally, you gotta figure that if it was made by the Warsaw Pact, it was made to kill us. Do you see how that works? Now, when you're the Warsaw Pact or the Russians and you were building stuff to kill Americans, they made sure that they did it right. They made sure that it worked. They made sure that it functioned. So if I can run into 1970s or 80s or 90s ammunition manufactured for the Warsaw Pact or by the Chinese for their own military, That is a good thing because I don't care if it's corrosive. One of the things everybody's going to say, well, some of this stuff will be mildly corrosive or corrosive. I assume that even the modern ammunition produced by our present military or by our industry is also detrimental if you do not, you know, if you don't clean the firearm. Okay? That's a basic rule across the board. There is a reason that when they print that corrosive, it's kind of a byproduct of a Isn't it, Mark, a more dependable primer? A Mercuric primer, that's right. As an example, a military spec. And I don't really have a problem with that because I'm going to clean my firearm and right now I'm looking more for reliability. Exactly. You have a little, and not just a little, a great bit more dependability that when you pull the trigger, there's going to be enough oomph from that primer to make that bullet go down range. Now, here's something interesting, the reason I bring this up. Right now, and this is SAMCO Global Arms Inc. OK, SAMCO Global Arms Inc. SAMCO has 7.62x39 manufactured in Yugoslavia, 70s production, FMJ 123 grain projectile, OK, corrosive, verdam primed, but it's a brass case. Now I'm going to tell you something about it. If it's a brass case, as long as it's not the really super large pan primer, and I doubt that it is, That means guys that we could convert these over once they're fired to boxer primed I've done it before many times and have a look at the case itself. However, it's 21.9 cents per round. There are 420 rounds per can Oh, I'm sorry. That's 420 rounds. I assume it's half a case because a full case is $263 and 34 cents If you buy five cases or more it's $250.74 per case. Now, the weight per case is 63 pounds. It's sealed in a zinc-lined wooden case. That's cute, but as soon as I get the ammo I would be taking it out of the zinc-lined case and putting them into standard 30 or 50 caliber ammo cans, American Manufactured, just simply for convenience and carry and accessibility. However, they also, Don, have manufactured in Yugoslavia same spec for the bullet, same ammunition, but in 10 round SKS stripper clips in 40 round boxes. 23.9 cents per round, which is not bad. This is brass case, full metal jacket, 123 grain, corrosive, bardam primed in the stripper clips. Personally, I'd go for the few pennies more, get the stripper clips because that's a good combo. And here's the thing, you don't have to handle anything. It's already loaded up for your SKS. That's a plus plus. Also, because it's made in the 70s, it was made as battlefield ammunition for the Cold War. This means it's a plus plus thing also. But brass cased on top of everything else. It's supposed to be very clean. Very desirable. I'm going to give you the phone numbers here at SAMCO Global Arms Inc. The toll free order line is 1-800-554-1618. Toll free order line 1-800-554-1618. The only thing is it's all the way down to Miami, bottom of Florida guys. It means everywhere else you're shipping it to, it's going to be a distance. However, if you want to inquire about the ammo, 305. 593-9782 305-593-9782 That's 305 593-9782 Their website is www.samcoglobal.com That's www.samcoglobal.com That's probably the best price I've seen on brass-cased military ammo in quite some time But I would take the later of the two in the SKS stripper clips now if you don't know this There is a stripper clip guide that is made for the AK-47 magazine mostly their CHI-COM They came in in the 80s. They started in fact they actually came with the rifle originally But you know how they are they busted all the parts up and shipped them in different points and sold them for different you know dollars The kits came with one of these guides originally. Well if you have SKS Tripper Clips, the advantage is you can speed load your 30 rounders that much faster with the AK Magazine Stripper Guide. Or you've got the ammo already loaded up to throw to a guy who's got an SKS. Either way, that's double plus good. So take advantage of that while you can. More stripper clips are better. I don't care what it is. If you've got a rifle it takes D-clips like for the M1 Garand or stripper clips such as for the Springfield, the Mauser, the Schmidt Ruben which takes a more unique one of the bunch, the SKS carbine or even the M1 carbine. By the way they made speed loaders for the M1 carbine too. With those Each one has a stripper clip guide on it. It makes them a little bulkier than the way the M16 was set up where you have one guide in the bandolier and you have the rest everything loaded up on stripper clips and you just pop the guide on and you know use it accordingly. Now one more time on this it's SAMCO Global Arms. They are in Miami, Florida. Their phone number is 305-593-9782. Their toll free line is 1-800-554-932. 1-6-1-8 and there is their email, I'm forgetting not email, their website is www.samcoglobal.com. Samco, I'm telling you. Well I'll tell you what, I hear the break already here guys. Hopefully we're giving you some solutions, not just lamenting about the problems. I know ammunition scarce here and there or thinning out in a lot of places. Take advantage of where we can find it. Back in three minutes here, Don and Mark, Intel Report, it's Weapons Wednesday. Collectors, outdoor enthusiasts, survivalists. The Army Navy Store from your memory as a child is just that, on memory. 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I'll tell you what, stay right where you are, Mike, if you want to listen in. And I understand we have another caller. We have... Marcus and George again. Hey, Marcus and George, jump in there. What I was going to say real quick, guys, if you're suspicious about any ammo or anything you get in the mail, go get you a frequency meter that reads transmitted frequencies across the whole spectrum, especially the frequencies these little translators like to use. And as a weapon in your arsenal, you can go through an ID, little RFID admittors, or anything they want to sabotage ammo or anything you might buy. In case you might have any suspicious like Operation Phoenix was in Nam, when we screwed up the Vietnamese with supply ammo in from China by one round or two rounds in a piece of ammo or 81 millimeter mortar or whatever they might steal from us or remanufacture a blow up on them. And so if you're nervous about any kind of detectors as far as emitting a signal, look into getting a frequency detector and they're not overly expensive and you can find them at Radio Shack or you can find them online. Over. Very good. Now again, one of the things to look at with ammunition is, as much as anything, the reason I brought this up about older ammo is the latest stuff that we've had, the latest Russian wolf is done in this new gray coat. Have you seen that? Yes, sir. Now, we had a significant range fire up here with about, oh, close to 90 people that took place. And the brass was all recovered after the fact. All spent cases were recovered. Now, we had a wide range of examples of brass, both military and civilian, aluminum lamin in all types, all types of steel case ammunition made in that gray matte finish, to include 30 carbine, by the way. And then we had a mish-mish of 7.62x39 and 7.62x54 steel case and German K98 World War II vintage steel case. Now, there was a light rain, kind of like the stuff we had today here in Michigan where we had an on and off rain squall. Very light, very pittery, not a heavy, heavy rain. And it's interesting, the brass was collected under those conditions. 24 hours later, all of the new gray wolf cases showed a light patima of rust, of oxidation. We did not have this with the military lacquered cases of any kind and we did not have this with the Chinese or Russian copper washed cases which were very dominant in the 80s and 90s of surplus coming in. Now this is why I have pointed out I don't have a problem using the ammunition. It's just understand what may become future limitations. For instance, take the tiger and prioritize it. I'm not tiger, forgive me, the wolf. And you could prioritize it for training while you keep your earlier and older military ammunition on hand for combat operations. The other consideration is if you're carrying it in the field, the gray wolf for instance, you want to make sure that you spot check it for oxidation and corrosion in any way, shape or form. What may have to be done is this. During Vietnam we had the same kind of problems because you're looking at 100 to 110, 107 degree weather, but Don, what else do you get with that heat? 100% humidity. That's right, humidity guys. So what was actual policy, which you don't see, you were supposed to teach your men. is every once in a while you don't leave the mags loaded and loaded and loaded and loaded for days and weeks and or even months in some cases you might have that one back magazine you just never switched out you know what I mean instead the policy is you offload all of the mags you individually wipe down the rounds and reload them and just like you're talking about Marcus earlier you have to disassemble the mags at given points and clean them out otherwise you're gonna end up with all kinds of aluminum white powder or a whole bunch of aluminum red rust where you don't need it depending on the weapon you're using. So this Steelcase Ammonoid, I will say this, this is interesting, of the Steelcase gray wolf stuff that came in, the 223 oxidation, 762x39 oxidation, 762x54 oxidation, 308 oxidation. The 30 carbene ammo guys didn't change though. In fact, it's interesting, the 30 carbine probably was out there longer, I think, and the 30 carbine steel case in the Grey Wolf didn't oxidize, you know, it never, you know, like, you know how that looks like you dipped in a little bit of rusty water? You know you get that little film that's what the stuff was like but the 30 carbine stuff didn't do that for whatever reason and Again, 30 carbine, you know, it braces because it's a straight case it abrasives on the chamber So we should see more, you know exposed metal which would promote the possibility of any kind of rust, you know developing quickly But that wasn't the case with the 30 carbine steel case, which I thought was bad. Go ahead. Can you imagine? you get that stuff get rusty and you fired in a non-chrome lined chamber always just like sandpaper or failure said be the problem or first of all and in our budget dollar your tractor might not extracted member of the uh... and they had a good look at your record of my network either that's right exactly this thing is this is a about something that we have to look at in that the only good thing is we're not you we've got a lot of dry places in the country number one my question would be is how much weatherization testing was done with this animal first of all If you buy it and you got it in those plastic bundles, get it into ammo cans right away. That's the first rule with all the ammunition. Get it into regular mil-spec ammo cans ASAP. The reasoning behind that is that again you've got it in a system based on our form of storage that is pretty reliable. So at least you've got, you've knocked down some of the weathering issues there with moisture making contact with the stuff. Mark, I got another problem with it. Go ahead. Call Fader Prince. your fingerprints would actually cause it to rust too. Yes, because the body oils, the different acidity levels with humans especially, and a variation on that is something I've pointed out with guys before. If you look at the old Armory manuals of the M16, guys in extreme moisture like that, we have more sweat. There are shots of, I don't even know how the rifles got the way they did with the guys, carried them to the point where their body salts actually ate through to the magazine well of the lower receiver. Imagine what it would do with steel case like this especially in hot environments or damp environments. So there's something we're going to have to look at here. We're going to have to have everybody keep an eye on this stuff. And remember that if we find the other stuff like I just mentioned here that's older surplus, we know that that was designed for combat and we know they planned on using it on us and they expected it to work. So there's where we're going to get our plus plus issue there we at least for the surplus like that Priority would be to go with the older surplus first and then work our way into the other stuff Well mark one thing I think what they're doing is they put in this bogus ammo in Because all these people who are buying weapons who are not weapons experts or have much experience They will let their weapons will jam up and mess up all so then they don't worry about being effective in the firefight. Exactly. They're actually hoping for manufactured obsolescence? Yep, for planning for failure. Exactly. Engineered for failure. Engineered for failure, that's the word for it. Yep, so what we need to do is we need to look at this and come up with solutions, not the least of which is everybody listening. This has been a topic we've covered several times today. Clean your firearm. Understand the limitations of your weapons, but constantly do a checkup. In fact, before you sit down, your weapon's checked. When you do sit down, if you've got to do any maintenance while you're sitting, if you're ever going to be sitting, if you're going to be relaxing to that degree, the weapon is dealt with first before anything else. Because if that weapon doesn't function, you become dysfunctional right behind it. Mark, can I make a suggestion? Go right ahead, Mark. If that ammo's not used for training purposes, It could be put aside, have people to pull the bullets and powder and primer and use that to reload into something. Exactly. That would be another option. In fact, actually that's something we've been doing with a number of different ammunitions on a regular basis here more recently because of some of the stuff that's been cropping up in other categories, other types of arms too. Tell you what guys, stay right where you are. This is the Intel Report. We are on Weapons Wednesday. We'll be back in about three minutes on Liberty Tree Radio. Mark come on back on out. Thank you very much. Thank you Marcus. God bless y'all. We are the saviors of my life until there is no... 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You know Real quick here issue here You were asking about 45 ACP down during the break now JNG sales guys has got three flavors a claim in stock and It isn't the 90s anymore though guys. Okay, 45 ACP Russian Wolf. Now this is J&G sales out of Arizona. You know we've mentioned them many times. You can order online at www.jgsales.com. That's www.jgsales.com. Their phone number is 928-445. 9 6 5 0 again that's 9 2 8 4 4 5 9 6 5 0 9 2 8 4 4 5 9 6 5 0 if you're down there in the southwest here's a place where you can go J&G sales are located down in Prescott Arizona 45 ACP Russian wolf 500 rounds 134 95 seller and below 500 rounds $159 Aguila, that's Remington of Mexico, Señor. 500 rounds for 189.50. I never thought I'd see the day when Aguila was more expensive than anything else on the page. And by the way, it is Remington, so it's, I mean, basically, it's, Aguila is non-corrosive, brass case, boxer prime. So it is reloadable, okay? So that's $189.50 for 500 rounds, guys. But they're again priced as low as 135 to up to 190 for 500 rounds. Still the cheapest thing on the market Don and this is what I've been telling people, Tokarev pistols and the CZ-52s if there are any left. 7.62x25 Bulgarian, Romanian, Russian Wolf or Celerin Bloat on clips. Now the Czech 7.62x25 on stripper clips, there are a couple of different pistols that they made that actually used a stripper clip instead of a magazine, guys. Steyr made a 9mm like that for many years and actually the broom handle is one you're more familiar with. The broom handle mouser used a stripper clip system. When the bolt was locked back to the rear, you took the stripper clip, locked it in the top just like you would a K98 mouser, pushed it in, pulled the clip out, and the bolt goes forward, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, away you go. Okay, now the stripper clips are convenient because that way you don't have a handful of chicklets running around your pocket So I like those in fact I've done nine millimeter like that for decades whenever I was carrying a nine When I wanted extra ammunition beyond all the mags that I had loaded I would always carry it in the stripper clips because that way when you pull it out of the pocket You've got so many rounds all in one grip You don't have to go on a fumble between the change or try to fumble around and something fell out of your pocket That's right Now the thing is 7.62 by 25. Let me go right down the price list here. 400 rounds for $44 guys. About what? 11 cents a round? Okay, you can't beat that. Now 1,600 rounds for 149.76. 1,600 rounds, that is less than 10 cents a round for Bulgarian. Okay. sealed tins of 800 rounds 79.92 that's just under 10 cents a round 7.62 by 25 Romanian full metal jacket 1224 rounds and sealed spam can 137.70 now that's cheap now the other way to go a southern below 800 rounds for $90 so one way or another guys you can actually afford to feed that nagant or that check pistol CZ-52 depending on what you got. I'll tell you what, we have a caller, we have... Butter Knife, hi, how are you doing guys? Very good. I've had just a couple of little things I wanted to add. The other day I had occasion to try out some Aguila shorties in a Mossberg 500. Now, I was not on a range, so there wasn't any discharging of these guys. This is just loading them up, counting how many fit in the tube, cycling them through, that sort of thing. And here's another little detail. This was a Mossberg 500 factory bullpup. It was not the sporting stock. It had all that clunky, heavy plastic all around it. So that may be a factor. Here's what I found however, that guy is reliable at cycling and ejecting regular 2 and 3 quarter cartridges. It was not reliable with the Aguila shorties. It pulls them out of the chamber fine, but they did not clear the ejection port. So each round when cycled ended up hanging out the bottom of the action with the nose hanging down and the rim of course not going between the rails. This is a very bad thing. Now, the dynamics of those cartridges, those, you know, hulls, may be different when they are discharged and empty and therefore much lighter weight. I don't know. But I would suggest that somebody ASAP try that out in a standard Mossberg 500 and update our collective expertise on whether or not those shorties really work as well in the 500 as we think they do. Exactly. Well actually we need to see a cycling test done with all of the different conventionals, the 1200, the 500, the 870, the Model 37, Ithaca, especially with the new Aguila loads. Now one of the considerations, like you said, is once fired, how was it for cycling with loading? I can't hear you very well. The level is very low. How was the loading cycle? Did everything proper there? Oh yeah, chambered just fine. And it extracted okay, but it did not clear the ejection port and therefore it bounced around inside and ended up hanging out the bottom. Now question, that was in a bullpup, one of the add-on bullpup holes, right? That was in a factory bullpup. Factory bullpup. Me? Mossberg produced a factory variant for a while. Oh, okay. With a vertical foregrip and heavy plastic and the whole thing is folded up like a bullpup is, so the ejection port is right back by the stock and so on. Okay, very good. Now what we need to do is we need to try that in a couple of other variants real quick just to find out there's something unique about the arm, but at least we know that loading was acceptable. We need to do it. Loading was acceptable and if you're willing to hold it sideways, you could probably eject reliably. Yeah, we shouldn't have to. We do things special. That would be an extreme field expedient. Right. Well, this is a request because again, they're not that expensive for testing purposes to buy a box and do a cycle test with 20 cases would not be a big deal right now, but it would be a plus plus for anybody who's listening to take the time and go through the process. But we need to get them to the range too. We need to actually fire around. Go ahead. You're getting ready to say, call them back in again. Oh, that's okay. Those things are really designed for Rinnington. They only work well in the 70s. The Mossberg doesn't feed them. The Smith and Wesson, remember that Smith and Wesson they came up with does come. Right, those are out there in semi-and pump. Right, they will, the old Smiths will feed them. They're made for single barrel and double barrels and they're made for Remington. Every law enforcement person I know where I live and I'm here next to the one of the largest training centers in the south, they all use them in Remington's and they work except you just have to jack the slide vigorously but they do not work in a Mossberg or most anything else. I was not on a range, so I was not discharging these. They were just trying to cycle test just to see how they did. They don't cycle in a, not anything but a Remington. I found that they loaded fine, but they didn't cycle out fine. Exactly, they're not made for you because you have the type where it drops down through the bottom, they're not made to do that. No, actually this is a side ejection, this is a Mossberg 500, but it does have non-standard furniture. I do not know whether that's part of the problem or not. They say they have to do a modification on the Mossberg to get them to function, and I wouldn't waste my time. Use those, like I said, in a single barrel, a double barrel, give them to somebody with a Remington 870. They'll cycle everything. Yeah, the Smiths were actually pretty reliable. There's still even stocks and extension tubes available out there for them, but if you find them, they're few and far between. Not many people sell them once they get hold of them for that very reason. They're pretty reliable as far as being able to consume pretty much any ammunition that everybody's produced, even just regular shells. Also the Benelli, that real extensive shotgun, they'll cycle them also, and the semi-automatic will cycle them too. Yeah, if you have 1500 just spend on a vanilla you've probably got a really nice shotgun there right, but that's what I'm just saying This is I'm just telling the old guys from experience I know from my law enforcement buddies and what I've I've experienced shooting them and Nothing is I'm not gonna tell people to do this But if you have a shotgun that say one of the real old ones that's got a broken stock single barrel It's one of those old thick thick heavy barrels and you want down to make a sin weapon a mo that for the four-buck number one buck mix load as a close defense and I personal weapon so that that's what it for if you got a emergency you know we have a just pop off one round of two rounds you know I'm saying a short so I wouldn't recommend anybody to have one of those I'm just telling it's a good load for that and I can't believe they're still letting Well, it's an odd bomber chance I get well, it's interesting Aguela has made these on and off over the last 20 years and now they've come in in a big wave again, so While they're available. We want to grab tell you what guys hold right where you are cuz we're gonna go to break here This is the Intel report. It is weapons Wednesday. We got butter knife and we got Marcus and Don and this is mark. We'll be back in three LTR Collectors, outdoor enthusiasts, survivalists. The Army Navy Store from your memory as a child is just that, on memory. But there is still one place to find everything from gas masks to ammo cans and find it cheap. MainMilitary.com. Get hard to find objects like real wool blankets for under 20 bucks. Canteen for just $2. Or Trioxane fuel for just a dollar a box. MAINE Military.com with free shipping on items over $150. Not including heavy items. Find surplus items for cheap now. like 30 caliber cleaning kit for just $2.99 a piece or a dozen for $30. Flair pistols are only $25. Want to add a brand new Israeli gas mask to your collection? Kids in adult sizes are just $20. Get G3 Max for just $2 or a military fuel camp for only $16. 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If you want to finish the thought, please. Yes, there's 60 grains, right? The subsonic? Yes, 60 grains, correct. But if you want to finish the thoughts on the shotgun shells, I'll be quiet until that's done. I think I'm finished on those guys. What do you think, Marcus? Well, like I said, on the Aguilla, guys, if you buy from that ammo, it's really made for the Remington 870. It shoots in the old Smith & Wesson, the great old shotguns. They shoot in the Bernelli's, and that's about it. They're great for double barrels. You want to keep a low, a double barrel behind your door, and you want to put something in there to knock the heck out of somebody. that your wife can shoot or your kids can shoot and then kick real hard. The way I recommend is go with something like that. And Don was talking about that .22, if it'll cycle, sometimes they will, sometimes won't, like a Ruger .22, .10-22, you pop a man with three of those and they're not very loud and you put some kind of baffling system into your barrel, they'll go down quick. Well, even more stealthy, you guys. If you've been shooting those SS22s for the least amount of report in a semi-auto gun, I've done that. It'll cycle in a lot of guns. But try shooting it in a bolt gun. Oh yeah. It's a lot quieter. Not far enough. Browning P-bolt is extremely accurate. Those things are deadly. But again, were you impressed with how much quieter it got? You don't have the report of the action or the report at the breach? Just like when we used to shoot the H&K9, the H&K5's MP5 suppress at 147.9mm. It was amazing. The bolt goes slap, slap, ping, ping, ping, ping, and you hear the rounds go slap, slap, slam. But you can have some fun with that subsonic ammunition if you, again, use the right tool for the right job, you guys. It's just a matter of being creative. Use that gray matter computer. I wouldn't take, unless need be, you know, I have, Mr. Otto used to say, well, when I shoot a deer, I generally, if it's a doe, I'll shoot it in the head. And if I miss, well, the deer runs away, and if I hit it, it falls. But, you know, I'm not talking about shooting a .22. If you shot a deer in the eye with a .22, particularly like looking into the skull, odds are that deer's going to fall down. I've heard many stories of people who are that good and had very reliable results doing it. I wouldn't figure that I'm that good unless that deer is awfully close. Well, you know, it's an acquired skill. But you can get there, Dave. Again, you guys, if you see a box of that subsonic or, you know, you can probably get it in cases. I've got no idea what you'd pay for it. It's generally... It's going to run you a little more than your average 22s. I believe I saw that recently at a show at about $40 for a brick of $500. But it's well worth experimenting. What one might call and I do this and I don't want attention. You're going to get a report and it's going to be minimal. And way out in the country, tend to carry a little more. But if you want to get away with dropping something and oh, here's another thing about shooting at eyes, it's illegal to shoot. to shine a deer here in Michigan. I don't know about your states, but if you're hungry and you know you just can't go down to the supermarket because it's not the bubblegum machines in the front, it's the facial recognition that's propped over the day or ever again. Right, you've got two approaches you can take with the low report 22s. You can either go with a light load and very low powder like the CB caps and so forth, or you can go with a much heavier slug and a fairly light powder as well, but more. That's the Aguila SSS falls in that category with the heavy slug. If you were going for an eye shot on large game, of course, you would want to use the heavier slug. If you're out potting bunnies, one way or the other, it's sort of a shooter's choice, I guess. If you're going to make a suggestion on the spotting, potting guys do not use a white light. Get a red lens to the spotlight and make sure it has a standoff because it will melt. If you want a spotlight, use a red lens to de-run on the white light. They won't run as quick on a red light. The first thing in their mind is, what's that? The second thing on their mind is usually 22 or 30 caliber. Exactly. R270, 2506. Well here again, real quick suggestion on that. By the way, looking at another solution in that area with regard to illumination while still not being visibly seen, there are a number of LED packs right now that are incredibly cheap running on 12 volt. that our illuminator systems good out to about 300 to 400 feet using LED IR packs right now. They're actually shielded as cheap, guys, as about $36 to actually $27 up to about the $60, $70 range. But these things include everything plug and play ready to go and offer even a little bit of, for instance, weatherization and armoring so that they could be mounted on a number of different pieces of equipment for field operations. Do you recall any current vendors that you've seen those on? As a matter of fact, I'm at the wrong desk. I brought everything to the, I'm in the studio, but at the other workstation, I have it sitting right there with all the contact information. In fact, this is a potpourri of all kinds of optics that are available right now, dirt cheap by comparison to what we've been seeing. Actually, you can spend any money you want. State-of-the-art present stuff, hundreds of dollars. Last generation, dollars. That makes the difference right there. I don't need cutting edge state of the art, the latest whiz bang toy. Give me one or two generations back and it costs like $10, $15, $29.95. Yeah, I'll take that and make it work. And then when the other one comes down, the price will grab that one next. The other distinction that we should make is tactical versus hunting type use. It doesn't matter if you're using an illuminator if you're after Bambi. Because Bambi doesn't shoot back and Bambi doesn't have their own night vision. Exactly. Well, one of the tricks, guys, real quick on that, and I know we're getting close to the top of the hour here, but we'll get enough time. One of the tricks we did years ago against third generation, second and third generation marine night vision equipment was to take the last generation infrared, last IR. That came with its own roof illuminator. Remember the ones like you see in the Omega Man? Remember the old movie, The Omega Man? Not the latest one, I Am Legend. And what we did is we took the power pack and we took the IR generator lights, lenses, and put them on an 8-foot... come on guys, an 8 foot piece of conduit. Okay? Taped everything in place, silenced it, camouflaged it, the whole nine yards. Carried that into the field into certain positions and we had spotter illuminators. Now needless to say they're going to be a bullet magnet and they don't run for very long, but instead of exposing themselves they actually use the rods to extend the light up over the berm, you know, the berm of a defensive position or over a ridge line. And we would wait, then bring them up, turn them on, and the IR. We weren't using starlight, we were using IR. And the last generation IR could pick out every metascope, every tube that was in front of us. We could spot each one of them individually by the amount of the collector, the front end of the collector. And it was fascinating. We showed the Marine company commander, he actually was with us in the out-for-group that we were fielding. and we demonstrated to him how to use this. And of course the idea is that the illuminators were separate and away from the actual rifleman and would only illuminate for so many seconds and then drop and then of course immediately move. Now the idea behind it is the first thing you're going to hear in real life is BOOM and then somebody's coming in with at least a 40 millimeter on you to try and disrupt your whole day. So the point was time it so that you, everybody's coordinated, rifleman's already up. The illuminators come up in different locations, span the battlefield quickly, riflemen fires and engages the select targets that are easily identified, illuminators disperse immediately and move from the area of operation to the next location, riflemen progressively withdraw and then relocate to their second shooting stations. The illuminators can be used randomly across the battlefield like this. And the other thing I've always argued is if we could put them on selective power switches, guys, if you got them stuck up in the trees where nobody can reach them... and you have them so that they at least create general illumination lighting you change the dynamic of your forward the forward area of your battlefield especially if you're looking at defense and depth. They have a choice of sending somebody shinnying up the tree or opening fire on the things in which case you get some muzzle flashes. That's right either way you get a target of opportunity and no one's going to want to climb up the tree and they can't do anything about knocking the thing out. Remember, you can also do it in oblique so that actually it's sitting on top of a limb, but say illuminating back into the battlefield or the area of concern. What you create is a general illumination that builds up with several IR light sources, and there's nothing that can be done really to stop it. Any motion creates shadow. Shadow allows you to direct and identify the objective. What is it created the shadow? So you can then bring fields that you'll bring your control fire into the field or area of interest and reduce the probability of their surviving the experience. So that's with simple off-the-shelf technology. It's all toss away. IR LEDs are cheap, cheap, cheap guys. Yes. And then when you illuminate an area like that, you'll find that you can stand off of it pretty well. Because a lot of people, if there's night vision in the other, in your op-for, they're not going to march into that illuminated area. They're going to kind of think something suspicious is going on here. But as you stand off of that and observe that, you can look over into the other areas that you will be channeling your opponent into. And that's where the wires and the other pieces of equipment are that in many cases don't even have to work. Can you pay Claymore? Yeah, Mr. Claymore is your friend and especially remote detonated or actively plate activated. In other words, plate activated where you have a sensor or something. They walk into the darker area, kaboom! Well, you know, they were over there for a minute. Not anymore, but they were there for a minute. The thing is that even, like as was pointed out guys, even just the idea of deploying it changes the psyche of the aggressor because one of the tricks, I'll tell everybody out there, buy about two or three rolls of kite string per person. Dollar store, dime store, kite string. What do you do with that? Well, you give one guy the task every once in a while, he's hooking up to one end of a tree and running it through the woods, left, right, up, down in every direction you can. You know what? They can't be sure what is and isn't and everybody's always paranoid about the idea that there's something out there with a line on it. I want to go home with my leg. There you go. So the point is that it's just like barbed wire, like anything else. It's another, it's an obstacle, mostly mental. Anything and everything can be used to improvise, adapt and create confusion. Well, I'll tell you what, butterfly, Marcus, we're gonna let you go. Roger that. Thank you, gentlemen. And we are at the top of the hour. Cordy is up with us next, guys. New program this next hour, so stay tuned. God bless the Republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. Empires on the run. But we are on the march of all day in. Hurrah! Fix bayonets, kick them in the slats, drive them to the coast. Eh, give a backpack to the die-ball computers. They only need to get halfway. Thank you Don. Everybody stay tuned. Cordy's up next guys. We've got a new program here on LTR to tune in. You guys will chat room. Same thing. We'll be active. Another hour or two. the and day.