Nancy Cornyn and Don Betcher hosted Communications Tuesday on October 14, 2008, discussing network infrastructure challenges affecting patriot radio broadcasters, recent events at Knob Creek shooting range, and a lengthy segment on drug culture messaging in mainstream advertising. Don delivered a detailed critique of subliminal drug references in commercials ("Who's Got the Bump" for cocaine, "Shrooms and Swiss" burger for psilocybin mushrooms), followed by discussion of the 2008 financial crisis, Chinese currency holdings, martial law declarations, and preparedness recommendations. The hosts also addressed General Motors layoffs, advocated for worker stock ownership as a means of corporate control, and discussed quality degradation in manufacturing (Mexican and Chinese parts versus American-made tools and components).
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On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught. According to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press. And you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms He'd fought to keep what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free and home? Good evening ladies and gentlemen, this is the intelligence report. I'm Nancy Kornke and I'm Donald betcher I hear you there. It's been an interesting week, I tell you. We've been going absolutely crazy here for the last week. Just getting everything up as fast as we can, increasing and of course, increasing the number of people we have listening at the same time. And I want to thank everybody out there. Let's start this hour out right and thank all those that have put up reflectors or, if you will, repeaters within the web system. That's been a huge help. I was able to talk to Danny Romero last night and hopefully Mark will get back with him real quick. because he's talking, they should be up. He was hoping they would be up this week. Looks like it's going to be another week or two before his new network is up. And I wanted to make sure everybody understood that's happening. That's in the process with all the nonsense that happened, WTPRN. And it's unfortunate, but we've been there. We've been through that situation ourselves before. and other people pulling the strings from behind the behind the scenes and shutting things down Faster than you can put them up. It's not a fun place to be But that's where he's at and he's in the process of changing that around getting things squared away From what I understand Jack blood if those of you out there have listened to Jack blood on GCN That's where he will be and that'll be global truth net Just trying to keep all the doors open, not step on anybody's toes. We're trying to make it where everybody's working together and supporting each other, regardless if we're quote-unquote in competition, if you will, with our broadcasting. And I don't really look at it that way. Because we should all be on the same page and all have the same goal in mind and that's freedom for America. How does that go Nancy? The enemy of my enemy is my friend. To a great extent that's true, isn't it? For a lot of it, yes. I wouldn't bet on it 100% but I had to drag a cliché in there. Well, yeah, it makes it easier for people to understand. And that's it. We're not adversaries, and I'm not trying to snag up everybody out there that's been either kicked off GCN or has been displaced by WTPRN. But I do want to offer up time for those that are displaced until they find a place that they want to be even. You know, let's fill in the gap and if they like it here and want to stay here with Liberty Tree Radio, that's terrific. So again, where you can find us is at... Oh goodness. I do want to tell you this is 5.06 p.m. of course on this 13th... Oops, did I say that? Ed, maybe that's a problem. 13th day of October. Oh my. Well, if I look at my calendar, Nancy, I think it's the 14th. It's the 14th, yesterday. We had so many problems yesterday. Yeah, and I'm out of it. Oh boy am I out of it. It's been, we've been running and running and running. But Ed has been all weekend here picking up the pieces, if you will, as things were cascade failures. As soon as you get one piece of machinery up, the next one goes down. It's been one of those kind of weekends. I think Ed's ready for a break here for sure. Oh my goodness, we had a good weekend. I don't know if Mark Tull probably talked to people yesterday about what a wonderful weekend it was at Knott Creek. I can't, I can't, it was a gorgeous day. Everything was dry. It wasn't, we weren't knee deep in mud, but Ed's been working on that project as well, the Knob Creek videos that were taken. If I can get permission from the folks down there at Knob Creek to put it up, it was awesome. It was wonderful. There were so many people. We haven't seen that many people at Knob Creek in a long time. It was really a marvelous thing. We had a great time. I love Bruce at home. I always know that I have this huge dog that I just absolutely love. He is a big boy. He's putting on some weight for winter too. Oh boy, let me tell you. But no, I didn't want to take him down there because it hurt his ears. I know how loud it gets down there. And there was a guy down there with his dog and he found earmuffs for his dog. And I'm like, oh my God, where did you get these? Folks, if you want to take your dog down to Knob Creek. Mutt.com is where you can get doggy ear muffs to protect their little ears because we all know our dogs here better than we do and are far more sensitive. But that was way cool. We're really happy with that. I saw that and just I had to stop and ask them. This is beautiful. It looked like a collie German Shepherd mix. Really nice dog. But I saw that and it's like those are not human earmuffs. He's like no, these are your special needs. But that's where you got them was on mutt.com. So I wanted to get that out there for everybody that loves their dogs, hates to leave them at home. You know, wanted to take them with you. Of course with Bruce, that's one whole seat for the vehicle. So, you know, yeah. But yeah, I missed him the whole weekend I decided it'd be great to have him along and I tell you what, you know I saw that and that's that's our answer and I'm gonna I'm probably gonna break down and do it Just so that he's squared away. But when they were putting off that setting off the 20 millimeters. Oh That was loud We are at our first break ladies and gentlemen I guess my clock in here is off just a little bit, but we'll be back Here more on communications Tuesday with Nancy Cornyn and Don Betcher on the intelligence report. Collectors, outdoor enthusiasts, survivalists. The Army Navy Store from your memory as a child is just that, on memory. But there is still one place to find everything from gas masks to ammo cans and find it cheap. MainMilitary.com. Get hard to find objects like real wool blankets for under 20 bucks, canteens for just $2, or trioxane fuel for just a dollar a box. 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If you know what you're hearing or recognize where particular phrases come from, you might wonder why. Probably right now you're wondering, where is this leading? This guy, I know he can get to rambling. But you know what? There are numerous cultures inside our borders like the motorcycle culture, the people who go to church, regular culture. You know what I'm trying to tell you about that? We have a number of divisions of people. But running through each of those that I've just mentioned, there's another one, Nancy. It's the drug culture. And you might go, running through that, well, you know, we've got judges and lawyers. police chiefs that have been caught with drugs and you know it almost seems to the point where everybody knows somebody who's indulging in one form or another. Now I'll tell you this and I've talked with Mark about this Nancy over the years but I'm gonna do this on the air because I want it I want you to get a good measure here. I have a friend I do have a friend believe it or not now that's intended to be a laughter I do have a friend believe it or not I've known him since I was about 12 years old Nancy. Now, I live up here in the middle of Michigan, the center of the palm of your hand, as far as everybody has a map of Michigan. And he lives down there, the other side of an unnamed state border. There's a couple of states that border Michigan, so we'll leave it that innocuous, that undetermined. But unfortunately, and I found out recently, Nancy, that because I don't see him like I used to, when we were going to school, You see your friend every day and after we got out of school you see him and then he moved to Maybe 40 miles away and I'd see him every few weekends get on the motorcycle and go for a ride You know, but you see things change over time and I'll sit here and I'll tell you right now my friend Born within just a few weeks of me Almost exactly the same age Nancy my friend my best friend alive in the world is a crack. He's a crackhead. Yep and I can't do anything about it, but you know what? I can't turn my back on him. I still have concern for him, you know what I mean? You watch some people fail, and they fail because of what they do, and you have no control over it. I'll sit here and I'll tell you, my best friend in the world is a crackhead. I got nothing to do with it, I can't control it, but I can't turn my back on him, but you know what? Because of that, I have particular insights into that world. I can sit and talk with them into that counter, so to speak. I do this because this bothers me to no end. I wake up in the morning sometimes thinking about it, but what we see in the rest of the world, oozing from that counterculture, so to speak, into the mainstream, I want to address that to a particular extent, Nancy. When you look at commercials on TV. There's a commercial for your, this would be elementary, like three or four boys in this one commercial. And it's for clothes. I think it's T.J. Maxx or Target or somebody. It takes a song, that song is, who's got the bump, the bump, B-U-M-P, the bump. And it goes on and on and you've got these three or four boys dancing, you know, kind of, Rap dancing to this music as they go to school in the morning They've got all their new clothes on from TJ Maxx or Target or wherever it is that Decided to run this commercial Nancy, but you know what the bump who's got the bump we need the bump that song is about cocaine Wow, I didn't know that but again, you know when you can throw the line into the water in a different river You've never swam up, but you've never Navigated before and find out how deep it is and I do this with my friend What is that about? Or he'll just plain flat tell me. Now that commercial, Nancy, and this is Communications Tuesday and this is one of the reasons why I'm doing this today. That's a subliminal message to children. They don't really understand what the bump is. Exactly. But they'll hear it soon. In three years or five years or whatever, they'll be exposed to that, so to speak, that counterculture. And that thought line will already be in them. Who's got the bump? That's a call out in the room for I need some cocaine. We need the bump. That means like the whole room is looking for cocaine. Now you know what? There's another one I want to rant about here for a moment, Nancy. A while back I talked to you about, I think it was, I don't remember who it was. It might have been Burger King. Ran a commercial using Jimi Hendrix's version of the Star Spangled Banner. Now that was kind of called 1968 he did that that was recorded at Woodstock. I do believe you know total counterculture there Yeah, remember the if you ever had anybody play you the Woodstock album There's a line in there between songs about somebody warning somebody about the brown acid don't eat the brown acid It's bad. Is that a total definition of counterculture right there the guy from microphone tells you stay away from that drug It's bad. Well, who's got the bump? Yeah, we need to bump stay away from that. It's bad I'm telling you that now so you know when your children refer to this. There's another one now, Nancy Burger King, and it's a little more subtle. It's not bringing a rap song in, but it talks about the new, let me think of what it was, Ann Swift steak burger at Burger King. And you know where that Nancy, an abbreviation, not a conjunction, it's an abbreviation of the word mushrooms. What is that in the English world? It's not a conjunction to contract. It's a contraction. Yeah, dropping part of it off. And usually there's an apostrophe in front of the part where it's been dropped. But now you can take that earlier thought about who's got the bump, we need the bump, and you could put the shrooms there in the counterculture, in the drug culture. Who's got the shrooms? We need the shrooms. That very word, an abbreviation for mushrooms. And if you know what you're talking about or if you know what you're listening to, so to speak, you'll know that in again, I refer to that counterculture, shrooms. There's another word you can put in front of mushrooms. It's magic. I think it's psilocybin or something. It's hallucinogenic mushrooms. Now Burger King is going to sell you a Shrooms and Swiss steak burger. And this is the counterculture, Nancy, oozing into the mainstream. Changing the meanings, trying to make something bad good. Yeah, but it isn't so much that. Maybe the person who wrote that commercial, or maybe the person who decided to use that music from the former commercial I've been talking about, who's got the bump, maybe they didn't know. But you know what? I kind of think they did. And the person who wrote or decided to name the new at Burger King, the steak burger with mushrooms and Swiss cheese, the shrooms and Swiss steak burger, I wonder if they know where that word really comes, what the origin of that action is. Who's got the shrooms? We need the shrooms. Let's go down to Burger King and get some. It's kind of that subtle, isn't it? But you know what it's doing. It's, as you mentioned, Nancy, it's putting words in your child's mind that as they grow, Because again, you know, if you and there might be a couple people out here listening that are outraged by what I'm gonna say The drug culture is so pervasive now that if your son doesn't do it or your daughter isn't or maybe you know Maybe your wife or even even the damn the president said well I smoke it I didn't inhale all the way to the presidency and again that when a president says that doesn't that make that just a little more acceptable for everybody else and The president did it, it must be okay. But you know that works with lying too, doesn't it? The president lied, that must be okay. And I reinforced that thought, Nancy. Example, recently, about a year ago, when the mayor of Detroit, you know, Kwame Kilpatrick, that fine black Irishman, Kwame Kilpatrick, I say that in jest, was, uh, more, you know, front and center Kwame. Well, uh, with the accusation now proven true that he lied under oath about an affair he was having with someone he worked with and had the policeman fired because they were going to bring this uh... right and fired the police the police sued the city and won four million dollars kawami had to pay a million of it back that just doesn't seem like a fair balance there when you look over at this example There were, they did interviews, the news people in Detroit, Nancy, did interviews on the street. Well, what do you think of this scandal with the mayor? And about a third of the people came up with, well, the president did it already, and you know, it must be okay if the president did it, and it's only, the other one is, it's only sex. Yeah. Well, you guys, I didn't mean to, you know, twist your ears so hard. But again, you need to recognize particular things out in the world, don't you? You guys in the intelligence report, Nancy and Mark, we're at our bottom of the hour break, we'll be back in about three minutes. It's hard to find in a man's age Doesn't matter what show you take Hard to find on TV or screen But it's on top radio Truth is on top radio Frustrations, they got some things that you need to say The faithful people are all blessed Gone out of the day Top radio Truth is on top radio I do believe that was Steve Ross about that. That was Steve. Yeah Yeah, we got it in the chat room people were talking about how it reminds them of a Barbie and well guess what? You know, I don't want to go there and they're saying reminds them of stat, but guess what? I don't need to go there. But Steve is very protective of his music and he has been gracious enough to let us use any of the music that he has since he has written a signed-up written release form for that purpose. He doesn't do that for everybody, which is kind of cool. We love Steve. That's that well, it's one of the forms of communication folks is music and speaking of music and communication one of the things that they had of course down in up Creek was Poker face and they played some other new music the new music. Oh boy. Oh boy. It's good. Ah So really good. I mean it's phenomenal response From the crowds there and they came in and drove them just packed around him Was wonderful and can't wait for that CD to come out Because it sounds like it's ready Yeah, yeah, Cordy poker face rocks. Oh boy. Do they go they do wonderful wonderful work? I have to work on having Paul back up as a guest. I talked to him just before the program. He had to run to work, so I'm not going to...don't get him tonight, but I was trying. Then it didn't work. But anyway, so I'm down there. They had a great time. Oh, it was wonderful. But oh goodness, I tell you the guys were great That's talked to the guy each one of them down there, which is always fun Great set of guys and they were talking to the people on mic about Preparations get your bullets get your beans, you know, make sure you got water stored away which was What they were doing so they incorporate that into their performances so keeping that information the communications going in whatever form we can multi multifaceted and that's that's what they're doing and they do a wonderful job and I can't praise them enough they do a great job wherever they go oh goodness Any rate communications. Sorry Nancy there was something about a helicopter and I thought to listen to Oh my, oh okay, that's okay. No, just talking about poker facing, you know, how they use their music to communicate the message and, you know, even between songs, you know, hey, you got to get ready, you got to do this, get yourself prepared and talk right out on the list, you know, why they were there at Knab Creek, buy your bullets, prepare because it's coming. As a matter of fact, speaking of communication, using the internet the way that we do, I understand Hal Turner has been taken offline as far as the radio and has a blog up now. So Hal Turner has a blog and on there I was reading about the money. situation, ladies and gentlemen, the Chinese that $800 billion that Cheney was asked about two years ago when he was in London, $800 billion that the Chinese was sitting on because they're watching the devaluation of the US dollar, said, okay, time to cash in. So they did. And this is right about the time that they, oh goodness, they did the Congress, the Marshall Law, declared Marshall Law. And what was the thing that Cheney said when, because he was told right there by the press, never denied it, to the London press is that, well, gee, when they do this, it will bankrupt the U.S. and we will declare martial law. We'll have it all under control. So that has happened now, ladies and gentlemen. They paid them $800 million, but we owe them now in the trillions in two years. It went from billions to trillions that we owe the Chinese. But the 800, what they could cash in on, because they bought into the stocks and bonds too, what they could cash in on was the greenbacks. So how did they pay the greenbacks? Do you think they paid them with more greenbacks? printing machine running? No, they didn't do that. What they gave them were coins. Now we... Hard currency. Yeah, but guess what kind of hard currency? Amaro's. Amaro's. $800 billion in Amaro's printed in 2007. Yeah. Wow. Uh-huh. that exposes that plan, doesn't it? Well, and that also explains what we reported on last week. Remember what was up last week? What were we talking about? The shortage of gold and silver being struck into US eagles, only to be upon demand by the dealers in the US. Where do you think the demand for the gold and silver went, ladies and gentlemen? No more quarters. No more half. No more quarter ounces No more half ounce only one ounce to be struck only upon the demand of coin dealers Which is why you're having a problem getting them and this is where our money went. Hello There goes, you know what little bit of gold was left. Bye. Bye Wave the bye because the Chinese don't have it and we still owe them trillions of dollars And we are under martial law. They said they would do it. They started with the Congress, but Congress is our branch of the government. They represent us, not the states, and not the federal government. We are under martial law. They've gutted the country. Guess what comes next? They will want to foreclose upon the people and the wonderful bonds that are out there. Mark's been talking a lot about the penal bonds. The thing is, there are bonds. There are so many bonds in each and every person from the time that you're born. They want to engenter us back into slavery, ladies and gentlemen, and if you are not prepared, this is going to come down quick. As a matter of fact, I was reading it and it's not quite clement, but February is a date. The early part of February of next year is when they want to come door to door and start this nonsense. So be aware and that will be perfect timing because most people do not have a one or two or three year food supply in in their possession If you don't do it now Do it now if you don't have two three years. I would I would say two to three years and That's what the Latter-day Saints do you know two to three years? You know they were saying one year, and then it went to three years and to guess what for food for water and For fuel where it's where it's possible to store fuel to have it on hand so that your family, if there is a crisis at hand, your family does not starve. That you have the fuel to heat your home, to run your car, to make sure you also have a year's supply of monies that you can survive on so that you have that backed up too. Just a year's wages in savings somewhere. And that's that's a lot to ask of people. Let me tell you because most people they don't do that but first get your food get your water Get your fuel for heating and and you know for your vehicles if you're going to be running vehicles Otherwise you're going to be lost Well, you need to have access of water too. If you can if you have the ability to drive a a hand pump well If you haven't got it done, do it now. Do it before winter sets in because it could be a real problem. If this projection is correct, and this is not our projection, this is projection from the other side, ladies and gentlemen. That's what they want to start this. And we have already seen in the press, well actually I was listening to Glenn Beck a week ago and I was, Mark, what's wrong with this guy? Why is he doing this? There was a lady that called in, they were talking about something they had seen on the internet. how US soldiers were being trained for civil defense here in the US. And these are regular troops, they just got back from Iraq. And the woman, the one lady called in, it's like, wait a minute, wait a minute. My neighbor's son had this happen. He's going, he's been out six months going back in. And he's being trained for civil defense here in the US. And he still lost his dad. Well, we're at the break here, the last break of this hour, the first hour of the Intelligence Report. We'll be back with more messages after these messages from Liberty Tree Radio. 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If you want to say and how that company is run and where things go, This is it ladies and gentlemen, you get yourself out, buy some stocks and go to the stockholder meeting. Hello, you then have a vote. And if enough employees of General Motors and Ford, because Ford was cheaper yet, it was $2.08. Yeah. Go in and take your company back. Buy it back. Yeah. Buy it. Buy them out. It's that simple. Don't sell it. You're part of it. Your income, if you want to call it that, the money that you make to survive on comes from that company. And who has more of an interest in that company than you? You depend upon it for your welfare and for your family's welfare. Get in there and make a difference. Buy the stocks. Even if you get two. If you only buy $9 worth of stock, that's two shares. And if everybody in your department, in your plant buys two shares, how many shares is that? Okay, if you got 1,300 people? Hmm, 2,600 shares? Yeah. Okay, buy them up because gee whiz, the foreign investors are dumping it. Now's the time to buy. Bring it back. Bring it back. Bring it back here. Effect how it's run. Okay? You know, and I know, you can do this. You can buy GM. Right now, you can buy GM. You can buy Ford. You can go to the stockholders meetings. Vote of no confidence. Get that head man out. Get the flunkies under him out and vote in people that you know can do the job. To make the changes and as workers, you know as well as I do you're on the line You see what's happening. You see where there is waste you see where things can be done better Implement them and as a shareholder you can do that you can do that you can demand the changes being made Because those people you are their boss now not the other way around and that's well, you know, it's really is kind of a myth that the Japanese or the Germans build a better car. It really is. You know, Mark has pointed this out a number of times and we've talked about this off the air. Buick, Oldsmobile, well Oldsmobile's gone. But Buick offers a little motor, V6, 30 cc's of V6. And you know, those are being bought and shipped overseas because those motors seem to run like a top for two, three, four hundred thousand miles. You change the oil in them, you're going to get three, four hundred thousand miles. You treat them right, oil filters, air filters, oil, do maintenance on them. You're going to get two, three, four hundred thousand miles out of that motor before you need to rebuild it, Nancy. I remember in 1982 when I was working for General Motors, my dad got me a job in there. He worked for General Motors for a good 30 years. When I went to work up there, it was 1978, I saw the plans to take the foundries out of the US into Japan. GM had a working relationship, shall we say, with Honda in the late 60s, early 70s. A lot of people don't know that, but Honda was actually brought over here by the little Honda Civic, by General Motors. And they took our foundry from Flint, Michigan, and shut it down and let the Japanese make the engine blocks. So I'm not sure if the engine blocks are even, if the foundries here have been reopened or if they opened new foundries here in the US or if they're still coming in from Japan. GM uses these days, the aircraft grade aluminum like motor blocks and cylinder heads. Yeah. Comes from Mexico. Those foundries are in Mexico. Well, the founders initially went to Mexico, but the problem that they had initially, I don't know if they reworked them, but within the first couple of weeks down there, they were those foundries ruined because of their siestas. They shut everything down, went home. for a couple hours, slept, came back and they were completely rock solid. Those foundries could not be used again. I remember that. We have a friend at a church who was down there overseeing the project and everybody went home, came back and he had to go down, oh, what can we do with this? There's nothing. The metal is hardened in the sluice. You know what they do with that, Nancy? from one portion of a plant to another as example in the big football shaped cars, railroad cars, and the train falls off the track and the iron runs out onto the ground and cools, they have to dynamite that to get that up and out of there. They have to dynamite it, drill holes in it and dynamite it. 1983, that happened in Mexico. And the grade of metal that they were turning out was really not good. Well, if you go back about 10 years ago, maybe eight years ago in the Hot Rod magazines, you can find reference, not veiled innuendos, direct reference to Hot Rodders if they see a part that says Made in Mexico, they turn it down. They don't want that part in their car. I can go back to 2002 in a particular hot rod magazine. Reference to cheap Chinese parts that if you put them in your performance motor odds are that block will be wasted in about the second or third time it hits full throttle. Wow. But they're selling them here left and right. And you know there's a difference between motoring down the road granted you know it. 2,000 RPMs at 70 miles an hour or 7,000 RPMs at 28 miles an hour. You know what I mean. You can put a lot of different stresses into an internal combustion engine. Now there's a big phrase, but I would not wish to build a hot rod with Mexican or Chinese parts. No. Well, you can see it just in the cheap tools you see at the dollar store folks as far as tools go. You can break them so easily. It's unbelievable. because it's not tempered properly. Oh, even soft fasteners, you know, put dents in some of the wrenches and whatnot. You're right. Yeah, it's junk. And the thing is until we get back to making tools here, and I'm really sad because the tool shop just down the road here closed up just in the last couple of weeks, and they would make springs, whatever you wanted to spec. how whatever specifications you gave them. And we had them make springs, certain springs. Hmm, yeah, well, it won't go there. But yeah, you know, minimum of a thousand. But yeah, I mean, this is, we need the small mom and pop machine and tool dye places so that these things are going on. Well, you used Japan during World War II as an example. Much of the industry was spread out into the neighborhoods. Mom and Pop built this part of a zero, little dinky little part, and shipped it off to the assembly factories. And basically it was, oh, to use that term and other cliche, grassroots, you know what I mean? Small parts were built in small, dinky little pops. But you know what, the same thing happened here. At the front of World War II, there was a lipstick manufacturer down there in New Mexico. Within a few weeks they had a contract from the government. They weren't making lipstick in the tubes where you turn the bottom anymore. It's still fashionable. They were making shell casings, Nancy. Not too much of a conversion for them. No, not much at all. Especially if you're talking a center fire, kind of like the 22. Oh, bigger than that. I'm sure. The same size tube. My goodness, close to a 50 caliber there. But again, it wasn't too much for them to go from manufacturing lipstick casings to bullet casings. But that was a standing industry. And when we look at, well, it seems like you're even just in Michigan. You want to start a business, you're going to have to jump through an awful lot of hoops and loops. The small business taxes in Michigan here are not conducive to staying here. No, they're not. That's why people are leaving. They're closing up shop and taking off out of here. Governor Granholm is not making a whole lot of friends. She's courting big business like Toyota. The one thing I can say about Toyota is that the parts that they use, the country that they're in, they will only buy from that country. We are right at the top of the hour. We got one call. Let's get it in real quick. Go ahead, caller. Oh, no, hello. This is Michael Messer. Get ready for the next program. Oh, getting ready for this time. Sorry. All right. Well, okay. I can't tell from this end. But I wanted... We're at that time, folks. This hour flew by.
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