October 8, 2008
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Mark Koernke hosted Weapons Wednesday on October 8, 2008, discussing affordable firearms for personal defense and preparedness, including High Point pistols and carbines, pump-action shotguns, and ammunition reloading options. The show covered financial crisis indicators with a market report showing continued stock market decline despite emergency bailout legislation, currency preparation strategies, and community security planning for potential civil unrest. Callers discussed gun shows, Gibbs lubricant products, and body armor limitations, while the band Poker Face promoted the upcoming Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot event in Kentucky and discussed themes of resistance to government overreach.
- weapons wednesday
- high point pistol
- shotgun
- ammunition reloading
- preparedness
- financial crisis
- stock market
- federal reserve
- currency
- body armor
- knob creek gun show
- gibbs lubricant
- michigan
- community security
- second amendment
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Live 365. libertytreeradio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we're on live 365, then go to Liberty Tree Radio. You can be a preferred customer and have a special feed by joining our preferred customer list. You need to do that through live 365, find out more. A little bit of what you pay actually is donated towards our programming. So one of the cool things is you actually are helping out the network a little bit. And you're hooked up with a clean little extra bit of bandwidth that makes all the difference in the world. We're also on AM and FM micro stations, CV base stations, and ultra net technologies both east and west of the Mississippi along with Central and Southern Alaska also headed towards the Aleutians. Well, Darrell, today's day is... It's with the weapons Wednesday and it is October the... night, I believe. In fact, already they're just throwing their hands up in the air doing a lot of babbling and well all that emergency money it got shoveled into somebody's pocket and they just ran on down the street with it babbling and laughing Now, we're looking at a situation where the bad guys are going to be foreclosing. Right now they're just stealing everything they can under the logic that everybody's going to continue to kowtow to the racketeers. That is not going to be the case. And many of you are going to have to be effective at defending both yourselves, your homes, your families, and our American communities. So, that's where Weapons Wednesday comes in. Number one, we've covered personal handguns many times, but a lot of you that are new, hey guys, you gotta go with what's left, so to speak. And of course, what you can afford. Your wallet's not unlimited, I doubt that. I doubt that you have vast amounts. If you do, I guess that's a good thing. Pick and choose what you want. But, remember that there are a lot of inexpensive arms that are actually pretty serviceable for personal defense. One of them we keep harping on for a reason because they're on the shelf. They're about $100, some less, some a little more. But for anywhere from $89 to about $110, you're looking at a semi-automatic pistol made in Ohio in the United States called the High Point. Now, the High Points are actually pretty well made considering how inexpensive they are. And critical is you're keeping Americans employed. The weapon system is readily available. It is reasonably priced and it's on hand. You can grab it pretty much in any of the stores that are out there right now and what's really cool is they make a high point carbine that goes along with it. Now there are two options here. Of course on the pistols you can buy any caliber from 380 up to 45 ACP. There's 380, 9 millimeter, 45 and 40 caliber. In the high point and pistol combination, because you can get one of the pistols and get the rifle and interlock for magazines, you're looking at 9mm and .40 caliber as the options. I wish they'd do it in .45 but they do not. However, in 9mm and .40 caliber, ammunition is readily available. Even brand new manufactured ammunition off the shelf is pretty common. 40 calibers becoming dominant in the spare or extra brass category because a lot of these cop shops are buying brand new brass, brand new ammunition firing up and creating once fired brass and tossing it on the range. Well guess what, it's Boxer Prime heat and yield reloadable brass. So this is an option for a lot of you who say, oh I already have most of the weapons I need. Well this will fit the niche for those of you who are looking for affordable ammunition for training. You need a single rifle and pistol combination. And what we're going to do is make sure that you guys, if at all possible, check out the information. Look at the 40 caliber take a look at the options for you if not used but seconds in bullets used bullets We can do that too, but that's another whole program Point is that you can reload cheap brass is available and factory ammo is available in 40 caliber So look at that as a solution nice combo with the high point pistol and a high point light carbine It's not a battle rifle. It wasn't meant to be it's called a carbine for a reason Now, Darrell, we have a caller. We have... Florida? Hey, Tom and Florida, jump in there, please. Well, yes, as a matter of fact, we've had several people who have called, or actually have called in on the program here, and that should be an indicator that they've gone to the bank to take all of their money out, and all the 50s and 100s are already gone. In other words, what they said was, well, all we could get were 20s and 10s and 5s, and I said, that's a good thing. However, let me point this out. What that tells me is that somebody else took a lot of big denominations out of the bank and there are none left. That means that the big money while telling all of you to oh just stay put Everything's fine. You guys all stay there. I'm gonna go check and inspect the lifeboat But before I do we're gonna set it in the water and I got a circle around the wreck a few times to see if it works Okay, but don't worry. We'll be back Maybe oh kind of all sort of okay quick We're not coming back screw all of you See how that works That's exactly what's happening here. So as far as the currency on the shelf goes, I will remind everybody again, you're not made of cash and I understand that people, but if you do have money, you can pull out of the bank at least do a third. Let's do what a friend of ours, what she said her dad did at the beginning of the depression and he wished that he'd listened to his banker friend. One of his banker friends came to him the night before the crash and said, hey, get all your money out of my bank. Get out now because if you don't you're gonna lose it all and what was bizarre is the guy was arguing with his own banker and This woman she was a young girl at the time when her dad, you know got the call And what was interesting about it is his wife is saying, you know, hey, it's your banker. He's telling you to do something. Do it. And the guy, she said her dad went, oh, ha, ha, ha. I'm not going to worry about that. He's just a little excitable. And the next morning, though, his wife kept pestering him to the point where he went and took half of his money out of the bank. Well, that half of the money that he took out is all the money he had left when everything hit. and the same should be thought about right now with regard to having coin and small bills on the shelf. Nickles, dimes and quarters, ones, fives and tens, and by the way, you might even get some twos out there if you do. Pick them up, what the heck. There are still twos floating around. But the point is, have a certain mix of currency because you want to do as the natives do. When this thing hits, you don't want to roll out with a, I got 15, 20 dollar bills here and only need to break one and everybody's looking at you going 15 times 20. Hey, boop! Might get smacked on the head for that. But on the other hand, if you reach in with a handful of mixed quarters and dingy dimes and a few nickels and quarters here and there and a dollar bill and you pay with a dollar and some change. Well, people figure you're scrabbling just like everybody else and they're not going to think about it. Okay. Now he's talking two months worth of money. So how is he coming up with a math formula on this? We got you Tom, go ahead. Very divisive is exactly why this much or when it is exactly going to happen. The only other thing that I thought of is when it does happen, a lot of our neighbors run up chickens with their heads cut off, find cigarette money, trying to find money to feed their kids, and that's where you're going to start seeing people do stupid things. Yes. That's what they were saying the other day. That's when the rioting was started. Well, Tom, stay right where you are. We got Darrell here with us, too. This is the Intel Report. It's Weapons Wednesday. We will be back in about three minutes here on Liberty Tree Radio, LTR. Y'all stay tuned and let people know where we are too. Back in three. On the battlefields of the day and into the future, regimental combat teams of the colonial marines are serving America. Not cheap mercenaries selling out to petty dictators under UN control, the colonial marines are there to protect and defend the Constitution and Bill of Rights of our nation. Not a globalist agenda for world domination. 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Well, most importantly, I'll tell you what, we're going to let you go, Tom, but most importantly before you do, hopefully you can hear what I'm saying. We've got a little problem with equalization here, but that's because of the system you're using. It's not a problem. However, one of the interesting things is that, like with FEMA, a lot of the people were dealing with some of the situations down in Texas or down in around New Orleans is there were people who were all worried about how they needed this and that and the other and they needed money for food or couldn't cover a certain cost but then would turn around and spend $50 on cigarettes or you know but not food or go out and buy six or seven bottles of liquor to tide them over during the crisis but no food no extra water etc etc the priorities are a skew okay that's one of the biggest problems Now, those are the people that we've always had to have a concern over because they have a tendency to be more worried about just what happens to the end of their nose as opposed to any long-term planning. And that is going to be an issue for a long time. The one thing about that is the attrition rate is going to be pretty darn high for a number of reasons. Number one, conflict amongst themselves. And the fact that if they're trying to take from somebody else who is pretty well prepared, well, they aren't going to be taking for very long. Now most important is neighborhoods or communities that are organized need to know who everyone is. They need to come up with a complete security system. Or if you're on your own, you need to make sure that your family unit understands you're on a 24 hour clock. In other words, well things shut down. It's 10 o'clock. We're all going to rest until 7 in the morning and then we'll get back to being secure. If this happens, you have to look at security and operations 24-7. And you have a day shift, you have an evening shift, and you have a late night third shift. And they have to be in place because, well, people are going to start looking at cycles, just like they do with anything else, for pilfering or pillaging or trying to catch people off guard. People will be caught off guard that are not thinking this way. We've already been in this situation for a long, long time, and it's basically part of our overall program, with how we overlap with activities, what we do, how we do it, and how we're organized. As things develop and get worse, everybody, actually as soon as things kick off big time, withdrawing from some of the population areas is still the first best choice. I have pointed out, and I will mention this again, you've got relatives or you have friends or allies that are in remote areas. If you have family or friends that are allies, you better make sure that you pre-deploy as much as you can in the outlying area. and make a point of shutting off the gas, turn off the electricity, lock every door, shut all the doors in the house and leave. In other words, DD the AO. But do it in such a way that you don't have to abandon anything more than is absolutely necessary by planning ahead. The same is true with regard to what little is in the system. The FRN's Federal Reserve notes are only going to be good for so long. And I know all the arguments about how the euro is coming. Well, of course they're planning on the euro. That's what's going to take place. Tell you what, Tom, anything else? Okay. Thank you, sir. Appreciate that. And we have another caller. We have... Marcus. Hey, Marcus. Go right ahead, please. Hey, real quick. Remember you told them talking about a Gibbs? Yes. Okay, y'all got a guy up there in Michigan named Tim Abel, and he's probably the most fairest ball of people I've called around the country trying to find the product that would call me back to sell some to me. Yes. Do you mind if I give his phone number out? I want you to give everything out you've got on Gibbs. I'll tell you what, Billy did a great job. We had him up on the air. And this lubricant is one of the best products we have ever used. And we have used everything. And the cool thing is, as was pointed out by Billy, the guy who's rep for Gibbs, is that it doesn't, there's nothing it hurts. The stuff enhances pretty much everything it comes in contact with, on weapons especially. So go ahead, give everything else you got right there, and repeat it three times. Okay, the young man is named Tim. Tango India Mike, Tim, for Bravo Lima Echo, for Bravo Lima Echo. He's in Michigan, he's a Gibbs dealer. Phone number, three four, I say again, seven three four seven, three four, is the two ounce bottles that are non-aerosol, seven dollars a piece, and the aerosol are a lot more in volume, I'm not exactly sure what the amount, I think it's eight ounces or more. It's 12 dollars a piece. Copy. Absolutely, in fact this is an excellent choice. We were trying to get hold of the new rep and that's one of the reasons I brought Billy up and Tim Abel 734-654-6607 is the number and If you guys have not tried this out on your weapon systems or any of your machinery or any of your your power tools or any of your hand tools with bicycles Oh, yes, this is perfect motorcycles Yes, all of the above. The guys, this is a product that I would recommend for all and it's being used and has been used in the industry for many, many years. And it is a best, that's not a secret so much as every once in a while you got to remind people to go out there and find it. And right now we're looking at being able to maintain a lot of our weapons systems and equipment in the field where it's going to get wet every day. Right now we're in Michigan fall to winter weather. It is cold wet or warm wet but it is still W E T. Gibbs, one of their advertisers here, what he did for years, Marcus, is he had a 25 automatic that he sprayed down completely, that he lubed completely with Gibbs, and did it once, made sure it was all permeated well, it was well sealed, put it in the water tank hanging there with a little fish bubbler going through it constantly. and for six months that thing sat there in the water every time he just leave it in the box, he had it sealed and he would put it up and the thing looked just like what it was dropped in the water. and he used city water which had chlorine in it on top of everything else. And I'll tell you what, this stuff truly does work. Body salts, body oils, water, muck, moisture that's going to build up with leather. These are the things you have to protect your firearms from and the wood or the plastic that your weapons have as furniture. This stuff works. Go ahead and give the number out again. 734. You've got a calling. We'll call you back. He doesn't have a computer, he doesn't get on the computer, he doesn't care for a computer. So you gotta call this man. There is no looking him up on the internet. Which is cool because again he's an old, he's a traditional business kind of guy which is fine by us. I think everybody's gonna have to get used to a lot of that more, a lot more often here real soon. So he's already ahead of the curve with everybody on that one guys. One other thing real quick. I was at the gun show this last weekend in Atlanta, Georgia and it was an arcade arcade, like an arcade video game arcade arcade gun show and it was to support the National Rifle Association which I didn't really care much for. This is one of the best gun shows we've had in Georgia for three years and come the first weekend of December, we have the gun show again and they have Liberty Arms there for Cash and Carry and guys, if you're looking for stuff and you missed it this last weekend in Georgia, we're having one the first weekend, it's up in Atlanta at Atlanta Expo South, I think they call it, first weekend of December, and there will be a lot, we call it Liberty Arms. Absolutely. And again, take advantage of that. Do you have the location for that gun show? It was off of Jonesboro Road, which is south part of Atlanta. Jonesboro 285, and it's between where Interstate 75 and Interstate 675 cross over or come up to the outer perimeter. It's Jonesboro Road. Anybody here knows it's Atlanta Expo, South Expo, or something like that, Exposition Center? And it's on Jonesboro Road. Excellent. So everybody can find it. Do we have a sponsor company or anything like that? What's the group that's putting it? All I know is Arcade Something. I'm not sure exactly. Arcade Gun Shows. What it is, they've come out of the void. We had Matt Eastman off, which he's a very terrible promoter and he's monopolized everything. Everybody got set up and people got together and come up with a new gun show and this thing is much, much better. But they would have Gibbs and if a guy was demonstrated, he didn't have any for sale. And when he did have a sale, it was already been sold. And I got to see something that Sunday and it was awesome. Excellent. Thank you, Marcus. Talk about your brother's box. God bless. Bye. Bye. We're gonna go to break We got Daryl and Mark here. This is Intel report live our second hour weapons Wednesday. We'll be back right here on And I shoot him before he shoots me. I will. Before God I swear this creed. My rifle and myself are defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life. So be it until there is no... Why come ye hear the red coats? What mind you man this fills in our valleys? There is danger, and there's danger in our hills. Oh hear ye not just singin' of the view, though wild and free. Well soon ye'll know the ringin' of the rifle from the tree. Oh the rifle, oh the rifle, in our hands will prove no trite bone. You may ride a good lead speed, you may know a stir in the master. You forward march with speed, but you'll learn to back much faster when you meet our mountain boys. And the leader judge starts glad to make what little noise and always hits the mark. Oh, the rifle, oh, the rifle, in our hands will prove no frightful. Maggie no graves at home, back across the briney water And giddy he must come, as well as to the slaughter But if we the jaws must do, then as soon as he's begun If Clinton's figure hold him up to the quickers, we'll be done Hold the rifle, hold the rifle In our hands, we'll prove no to rifle Hold the rifle, hold the rifle In our hands, we'll prove no to rifle and ladies and gentlemen we are back this is the intelligence report you got darrel mark here it's weapons wednesday and by the way we have a special report from david andrew new york good afternoon gentlemen For all you stock markers and brokers out there, I hope you're really sharpening your pencil. The stock market fell again on the Dow Jones Industrial Average. It went 189 points, .1 on closing today. It was over, at one point, got down about 300 below. So that makes a total now of 1,200 points in three days. They ought to be upset by now. And what's interesting, eh. The crude oil is still coming down. It's down around $88 a barrel. And that's strange that that's moving down in the same proportion. Though the British pound went up a little bit today in comparison to the dollar, just a few cents, but not a whole lot out of unchanged. The euro, it's still down with the US dollar. And the Federal Reserve, they lowered prime by a half percent today, but then did the Bank of London and the Bank of Canada. I think everybody is in panic when they start lowering it across the board on interest. They need more borrowers. Ain't nobody jumping in line for that one either, though, kids. In fact, here's the thing. One of the things that gets me about this, guys, anybody who does have an outrageous interest rate level right now, As these all these primes all drop all the other rates should be dropping too Now have you ever gone to the bank and noticed if you want to refinance? I'll tell you you don't qualify and yet you're paying 24 you're paying your your variable rates can be oh god who knows what the level is because I mean it's it's it's literally It's it's loan shark level interest rates. Okay, but you turn around going to the bank and say hey I want that I don't like to qualify for that 5% interest rate and all I want to do is just refinance the exact same level I'm at oh You don't qualify, but you're not trustworthy blah blah blah blah blah. You know what stick it Instead start walking away from the racket people we have argued this for years I have repeated this over and over again. All you're doing is feeding the enemy's fires and and they're going to turn around and use all this BS interest to stick us with the Ameripaso, whatever BS name they come up with, I don't care, still going to be the same junk paper, and it's nothing but a Ponzi scam. Now, what was the, what did the market close at today, Dave? The market closed today at $92.58.1 on the Dow Jones. I'm a little confused here, as I said earlier. Didn't they tell us that we just had to pass this emergency legislation so that they could fix all their little but buddy's problems for the thieves that already had stolen trillions of dollars? Didn't we put ourselves into a national debt that's even higher than before? With the demikins by the way, don't blame the republic rats. Hey, they were actually trying to put the brakes on this guys. The ultra liberal demikins and the neo-cons, also liberals, are the ones who pushed all this. Okay, the Bushites, you know, bottom feeding scum that they are along with the rest of the kosher mafia tied in with them and the other scum from the other side the limousine liberals like Palazzi who's only concerned with whether or not she was going to get a bigger jetliner before this crash. Do you remember that? Had to have a bigger jetliner. Well, you know what? Take that jetliner and stick it up your hind end, Paul lousy. Along with the rest of these scumbags. However, yeah, again, we know what's going on there. We know the problem. So this is not a surprise. But as one person, at least in Congress, asked, hey, we were on this big emergency trip. We were told if we did this, the stock market would go shooting right back up. Well, what did it do? Well, Dave, it doesn't sound like it shot back up to me. We have three days down and some of the economists have said for the last five to ten years that if it ever drops back below ten and stays, you can expect it to go below $7,000. and possibly even lower before it's all done and said. And this will be part of the devaluation process that equalizes us through the currency stolen out of the country and slid off as capital to somebody else and then demonetizes American currency that will help to bring us down to equity with the peso. Because that's where they have to go people. They got to put us in the basement so that they can create the Ameripeso. And that doesn't mean bringing and lifting America up. And that doesn't mean you're going to have a $30,000, $40,000, or $50,000 a year job. It means all your jobs have to be at the slave wages. That's where it has to go. Anyone out there, Mark, had equity in a home. Now would be the time to sell a thing to somebody else could borrow the money at low price and then take your money and go buy another house at low rate yourself and get rid of those high mortgages. That's right. That's the only real solution. That's one of the few solutions that's possible right now. Other than paying off if you're close just paying it off and do not get into any loan system at all. If you're close to paying off, no do not re-margage. Unless you're looking for another piece of real estate. You mortgage the other, the first one to the hilt, I guess, if you want to get rid of it and you figure you can't offload it otherwise, and then buy another piece of property and let them foreclose on the junk property that they wanted to steal in the first place. Now that is an option, and that's just like everything else, use the system on the system. That would be a direction to go. Anyway, I tell you what, Dave. I'm out of here, Mark. Thank you for the report. You're welcome. God bless. And, Darryl. God bless. Now I wanted to touch on something real quick and I way better double check. Do we have any other callers right now? Oh okay, I'll tell you what, Daryl. I don't know but I got disconnected and had to reconnect. Uh oh, well there we go, we got you back. I'll tell you what I want you to do, Daryl, if you would. One of the things that a lot of people out there listening, they've never had a firearm or they've had very few firearms before. One niche, one area where they're still affordable, there are a lot of different variants out there, is the pump shotgun or the 12 gauge and 20 gauge in one form or another. What are their options out there right now? Well, the two most, the least expensive, both of them are pretty reasonable quality, is the Maverick Model 88, unless they've changed their name, and the Mossberg 500. And you don't have to go hog wild with a bunch of doodads on it, just the basic point and shoot type firearm. Those two would fit the bill. As far as the end guns go, you touched on that earlier tonight, the high point and the 9mm. I used to sell a lot of those little expensive 9mm that they sold and the best part of the high point was the fact that they had a lifetime guarantee on them. Theoretically, being that they carried a lifetime guarantee, they would pretty well built for the money. And then there's the Knob Creek Gun Show coming up down at Knob Creek, Kentucky this weekend, where you might be able to find some of those shotguns. You don't necessarily have to stick with the Mairek or the Mossberg. Remington makes a fine quality, 870 and then the Winchester in their 1200, 1300, 1400, whichever model they're producing right now, whatever they call it. is a fine gun as far as pumps go. So if you've never experienced the shooting of a firearm and you're a first time buyer and you want something that's going to do the job because of your lack of expertise, the shotgun is probably your best way to go. It's a close range weapon, but it does have a nice pattern, especially if you buy one with a cylinder choke in it, this pattern, it's a... 25 to 30. And again, we're looking at utility arms where you have an opportunity to use it both for, well, if you go with an IC, improved cylinder, discarding Sabo slug is an option which will reach out to 200 yards. If you use iron sighter optics and you should always have decent iron sights on your shotgun in one form or another, but make sure that you do at least have the iron sights in place. But optics are available, low power, conventional high recoil scopes. They weren't available years ago, but in the last decade and a half, companies started to accommodate high recoil weapons, like the, well actually, you get a little more oomph there, like with the 12 gauge and with pistol. And so because they started doing them for the 45 and for other automatics, the cool thing is that same long eye relief scope could actually be used on a shotgun or even on what we call the scout rifles. Not the most powerful scopes on the planet, but enhancing the optics to give you a little better bead on the target when the time comes. Again, we're not looking at sniper rifle ability with a 12 gauge, but 200 yards with a SABO slug is pretty darn good. It's going to make them duck, that's for sure. Hell yes, you get hit with a 500 grain hourglass slug out of a discarding sable shotgun load, you're not going to jump back up and say, hey, hit me with another one of those. Ain't going to happen, kids. OK? Knocks Bambi down like he got hit with a freight train. People are, well, a lot less ambitious than Bambi. OK? They don't usually leap right back up. Short of being hopped out with whatever dope they seem to be using that moment. Now. When you're buying the ammunition for that, you also want to keep open-minded that you want to buy some number six or seven shots because you just might want to have to shoot a squirt when you're out there in the field so that you have something to eat. That's right. So it would not hurt to have some of the bird shots along with the double-hot buck or Sabo rounds or slugs. Well game load game getting loads another thing about body armor, and I guess we'll touch on this to a degree It is weapons Wednesday of course But real quick for the fine shot somebody says well What do you want with number seven or what would you want with number six or what would you want with even you know? Eight or nine like you know trap shot trap loads Well everything and anything put in a bullet put in lead downrange. I don't care who the hell you are guys You get hit with something you're gonna know it at close range There's not that much of a spread but one of the little Secrets about body armor that they did not want to talk about and you got to remember second chance Michigan is the home of second chance where it came from where all the body armor is that you mostly see This was the parent place where it all came from and a lot of research was done. Well, there are two things they would not guarantee body armor against. One of them was an ice pick. Now think about why you're dealing with a coarse weave. The ice pick is a fine like all type weapon or tool and what happens is it'll perforate through the weave following the path of least resistance. It separates and penetrates to the soft chewy stuff inside unless you hit the shock plate or the shock trauma plate right in the middle of the vest. Well the other thing is bird shot. They would not guarantee against bird shot and they didn't want to talk about this because everybody is thinking they're all 357 Magnum 45 auto long slide. Oh my goodness buckshot number four or buckshot double art Well, you turn around and you use a number seven and it hits like if you know where you're how to put placed around and it's at reasonably close range or you use what's called a game getter cut on your shells and What happens is that number seven it follows the path of least resistance and gets through to the chewy stuff on the inside. It gets in between the weave, especially if it's on the edge of the armor. This is true with a lot of other rounds anyway. Body armor doesn't stop everything. But here's one other thing to remember. People are going, oh, you wouldn't have much energy. Guys, we're talking the next war here. Even without much energy, anybody and everybody hit is going to, and we talk about this on the intelligence report, but nobody wants to discuss this about follow-up. The medical support system is going to be in abysmal condition. Does everybody understand that? especially when it comes to quantities of casualties. They are going to be overburdened. If you are in a remote environmental situation on a battlefield, being hit at all is not a good situation. and depending upon how many follow-up hits you get on the same, you know, with the same 12 gauge with the same, you know, say combo shot, we like to load up what's called an arcane load. And, Darrell, that's where you have a mix of double op buck, number four, BB, and even number seven or number six in between to fill in the space. Now, the load will be a little heavier, but basically a little over an ounce of mixed lead. And one way or another, something's getting through, kids. Something's gonna hit the target. Now, if it's a bad guy, especially a brigand or a scallywag, he's not getting any medical support. If it's one of these nutcases as part of a roving gang of banditos, if they get hit at all, and again, they don't have the medical support, chances are any hit is going to be a long-term good hit. You see how that works? because they ain't gonna get the stuff back out. In many cases the rats don't take care of each other. They'll just kick his carcass off to the side, leaving bleeding somewhere. And it has happened so many times with people that I know that have defended their homes where in one case, the most recent one here before I went behind the wire was over in north of Hamburg, or I'm sorry, east of Hamburg, Michigan. A guy came in. There were two of them. They grabbed the husband. They didn't think the wife knew what to do. She grabbed her 32 automatic. She was trained. She dumped the first part of a mag into the end of the one, shot the other one who was who had her husband by the neck, and they ran from the house. Well guess what? She pumped the lid right into center of mass and Daryl, they found the corpse of the one guy kicked out of the car down the road. He wasn't quite dead. Oh, he lived another 15 minutes or so. But the point is, no honor amongst the thieves. So any hit is... Do you remember the shut-out loads that the military came out with for the latter days of Vietnam? Absolutely, yeah, for the M79 or M203, yes. A friend of mine who was over there was a problem with the VC coming through the wire and there were shut rounds. The problem was there was too many holes in the pattern and... BC were able to run through the pattern without being hit. When he came up with an idea of taking welding rod and cutting it at about three quarters of an inch in length and him loading his own shells and he was able to put about a hundred welding rod, shotgun shell, and put them down. When the BC came through the wire the next time they didn't f***ing through that pattern. Right, they found that there's always an option there. That's right. Again, arcane loads or unique loads can be fabricated. First of all, this is where we get into reloading again. Shotgun reloading, if I can pick up empty shotgun shell cases, we pick them up. There are too many things that can be done with them. In Vietnam, the shot shell type 40 millimeter rounds If they, before they were being made, I know that different guys had developed different systems with local shops and with local improvising techniques that they had come up with, which is why the military felt they had to come up with a corporate solution. The Flushettes are still available. The difference is how we would load them as opposed to the way the industry does. I'll tell you what, Daryl, we have another caller. We have. Alright, we got Paul up here. Thank you very much. I'll tell you what, Paul, well of course, Darrell's on the line here too. Darrell? Yeah. Paul, we've got an event coming up this weekend. Tell everybody about it, please. Knob Creek, Kentucky. Machine Gun Shoot. It is tonight through the 12th. If you love guns, if you like a family-oriented event, if you like to see explosions and tracers at night, It is a place to be. The website is www.machinegunshoot.com, North Creek, Kentucky, half an hour south of Louisville, Kentucky, Route 31. We'll be playing Saturday night before each of the night shoots. It's a total blast and we highly recommend gun lovers and family-oriented events that need to be done. That's the place to be. And of course, well, not only are they going to see the machine gun shoot, they're going to see weapons going off, but they're going to have, well, live music in the background, aren't they? Or foreground depending where you are. Poker face playing some new tunes. Mark, I'm putting a new bumper clip together for you that addresses the banker situation. It's a verse of one of our new songs that I think would go really well for you. Appreciate that. And we will use it the moment we get. In fact, we're going to get together. We'll be saying hi and visiting while we're down there. You guys are going to be right off the range where we traditionally have been? Yep, right there by the main gun range. As soon as you go into the cafeteria, that's where the band will be. We welcome folks to come up and talk to us. We'd like to meet our friends and bands and family, so come on by. So this is a chance everybody's heard you on the air. Everybody's listened to your music for years, and literally that's the case, guys. Paul and the band have grown with the Patriot effort. They are master musicians. I'm going to tell you that right now. I have seen a lot of bands, and I'm like my brother. My middle brother is a professional musician. And the band is as adept with the tools of their trade as could possibly be imagined. In fact, they're not what you call a studio band. When you hear them on the tape, that's what you hear when they're out on the program, guys, when they're out there doing their job. So if you get a chance you're gonna really have a lot of fun plus you get to put a you know the real Flushing Bud face to the names and you get a chance to say hi and these guys are regular people just like everybody else you can have a lot of fun too and Right now you guys are playing in between them You're not gonna be playing during the shoot, but you're gonna be the preparatory leading up to it, right? Right. Well from the night they take extra time to set up all the you know the bars and the boilers loving C4 charges in and so you know when you get them with the machine that you see that make these nice explosions at night that could be seen you know all the way around and yet to feel the heat particular lecture that's what that the things up in that the time that we play with the good rock and roll and from from good machine gunning and from often visuals that night but for the guy that got the uh... the fire guns you know shooting cleaned out of at the end of the gun and it's just uh... it's a total that we we love it that that the ago also that's our black uniform we burning machine The black black uniform weeds if you got four or five in a row That's a you got well one flamethrower slash weed burner deals with the weed burn problems real quick In fact, I think a few bankers a lawyer should be lined up to brother. Well, you know what? We're trying to figure out as we've been joking, you know, what is What's a hundred lawyers and bankers hanging from a skyscraper? a good start. Yeah You know, we can't waste those buildings. They did take our money and built those, you know, constructed those things. I say we stick to them. Well, like you said, since they did take our money and they just now took our money again and now they seem to be picking the rest of the of our wallets that we're the new land owners so we ought to just march on Washington and foreclose and throw the bums all out. Well did you guys all pick your brick out guys? Did you? I've been telling everybody in town here and they all go quiet and they all start to, oh you're right. So you all own part of that building across the street, which one are you going to take? The one on the left or the one on the right? I'm taking both of them so I don't have to choose. That's right. Actually between us, I think we're all owners. At the very least, they're going to have a problem if I say one of these weekends I come over with one of these router bits and start carving my name into a few of the bricks. I'd say I at least get a few of those for the price. I'd love it. $400,000 a whack per 8 for everybody for everyone over the age of 18 $400,000 in debt per American for just this year and as we know it all rolls around next year again and the exact same amounts coming to a head. Guys there isn't that much money around and so the only option they have is to try and make slaves everyone and you know what I don't sit I don't sit for a slave to anyone I know Paul what about you? I haven't been a very good slave all my life so I would have to vote with you. That's right. There's a buck of the tar and a bag of feathers and a rail sounds familiar. Listen, it's a beautiful thing. It's a good idea that I must come back again. That's right. Bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce right out of town. Do you know where that all came from, guys? Do you know where the tar... Death goes back to Rome. Do you remember that if somebody betrayed the trust of the people, What they were is they were tarred and feathered because it would take three days for the tar and feathers to wear off. And it was illegal to help a trader for three days travel from Rome. Well, but most people don't realize that that was what's why tiring feathering came about you and I come out find some guy over by the chicken coop trying to steal some eggs and he's got some tiring feather on him Hey somebody else's town obviously didn't like this guy around he needs he's not supposed to be here my chickens So boom boom there you go the old sauce the old Salt load would come out of the end of that double barrel and he'd be on down the road again And that's how it's supposed to work. Oh, did we lose anybody? No, all right. We still got there It sounded like somebody fell off a chair. Well, I'll tell you what now. Again, Paul, how is the new music coming along? We're almost done, Mark. I would say within the next two months we can actually have a product out. So we're trying rapidly to get it done for Christmas now. And by the way, remember these guys are perfectionists. If you've listened to any of the other albums, not only do they provide the music, but they've got the music videos, you've got all kinds of information. Go to pokerface.com, www.pokerface.com, and check out the site. Have you got any samplings of the new music up yet? No. Okay, so at least you'll be hearing what they've already done, which is cool. But you are going to be... Now, I guess we'll spoil it. It's a surprise. Are you going to be playing any of the new tunes down there at Knob Creek for sure? All the new Tims. All right, so everybody who's curious, you're going to get a prequel to the actual release, which is pretty darn good. So I'll tell you what we're going to do, we're going to make sure, again, anybody who can make it down there, we have a mission at Knob Creek this year. We want every round gone from that place and walked away, not carried back by the people who are selling. And I know that there's going to be some people maybe a little high on the price. We'll see what happens when we get there. Those people may not move their material completely right away, but I think they're going to see the writing on the wall that, you know, hey, got to match the prices that make sense, and we need to get the stuff out of there. We need to vote with our wallet and send a message to our enemy, and I think that's the best way that we can do it. Now, another thing on that note, talking about the idea of voting, you know, guys, Was there a vote cast on April 18th 1775 so that we could go to war? Was there something I missed in the history books here? We have a special election before the war started. Yeah, it was called the cartridge box. So basically what happened kind of is like, let's see, we all were on Lexington Green. One of the old guys there was standing there, was probably a French and Indian war veteran, he said, you know, I'm not getting any younger. And he cast his one-ounce vote. It went across the battlefield there and he deposited his vote in that red coat voting box, didn't he? I love it. I love it. Yes, he did the lead deposit. Now, there was then a number of votes that were thrown back towards the Patriots and a number of votes that were thrown back towards the Redcoats, and they decided to withdraw from the election post there for a bit. But the British, well, asking for a recount, I guess, or thinking they needed a vote in another county or another part of the county, they proceeded on the Concord, and they got more than they bargained for. In fact, they fled from the polling booth all the way back to Boston. Well, poor things. And the boats kept coming all the way back to Boston, too. Exactly. And that's one of the things that I see right now for everybody that's listening that's new. We're not joking, but we're joking because I laugh at my enemy. And everybody goes, oh, they have so much. Oh, but we have just as much. And more. That's right. And the difference, we have the spirit of the United States of America behind us and with us. all of our people that you see in the Patriot effort were it not for the effort of Daryl and of Paul and the band and many many other good men. Well that's true. If it weren't for all of us guys you wouldn't be having this discussion right now and it's because we need to hold the line we're going to continue. Tell you what Paul, will you close with us guys? Let's close together. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order? We shall prevail. The Empire's on the run? Kick them in the slats, walk into the coast and let them try to carry a backpack full of die-bull computers back to England with them. Swimming. I don't think they'll float well guys. What do you think? I don't think we should pile them back to England and take them to that too. Oh yeah, the British want to be free. We'll help them. Thank you Paul. Thank you Darryl. It's so tall