Mark Koernke and Donald Butcher discussed military vehicle deployments on the East Coast, including LAV-25 armored personnel carriers being repositioned by state police. The show covered Russian and Western armor design philosophy, emphasizing low-profile vehicles and hydrodynamic suspension systems. Butcher provided detailed technical guidance on improvised vehicle armor using sandbags, guardrail, and laminate construction, as well as electronic hearing protection devices for tactical scenarios. The hosts also addressed EMP vulnerability of electronics, Faraday cage shielding using aluminum foil, computer preservation strategies, and ammunition reloading tools including bullet pullers and swages for salvaging and remanufacturing cartridges.
Live 365 I'll tell you what saw you do just that but get away from my door go back to the house if there's anything left it looks like there's a little smoke coming from the windows you need to tune into pbn.4mg.com if your internet's still hooked up ours is yours isn't or might be we don't know but I tell you what you can also go to live 365 then go to Liberty Tree Radio or go to Liberty Tree Radio dot 4mg dot com but I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. 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You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm And keep our country deep in debt put men of God in jail harass your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths. They've sworn and your daughters visit doctors so their children Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As Iowoki vanished in the mist for whence he came, his words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free? Ladies and gentlemen, this is the evening intelligence report. I'm Mark Cornky. And I'm Donald Butcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, central, and northwest. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, live 365 then go to Liberty Tree Radio and we're also on AM and FM microstations, CB base stations, and ultra net technologies both east and west of the Mississippi. We're also on alternate in Alaska both southern and central. Down to the east gate is? Hey on both sides of the Mississippi it's still the 25th of September you guys just passed 8 on the eastern seaboard. We can go in a number of directions Mark. we thought we might continue that thought that opened the five o'clock hour. Wanna do that? Oh, wherever we wanna go tonight. One thing real quick here, before we go any farther, I took a look at the pictures that were sent to us by our friends and they asked for an on the air report. The vehicles that were in the picture that were seen on the east coast were lab 25s, late models, standard though, crew compartment, you had troops up out of the rear roof hatches. and of course exposed in the driver and I should say the gunner and commander stations up on the roof. So the one shot was from the rear, looked to be going down the road, multi-lane highway, rather interesting, these Lab 25s about every quarter mile, there were five of them by the report, openly moving down the road on a regular basis. Now we saw this with Canadian stuff back in the 90s, but they didn't throw a whole lot of American gear on the road like this. So, this is part of that ongoing desensitization nonsense. And the LAV-25s, of course, are being redeployed or reset in whatever location they're going to on the East Coast. LAV-25s and other former Department of Defense vehicles are deployed with the state police here, two to an armory site. We've pretty well ID'd where all of those are and we've seen them in the field also during the incident where we had the destruction of Scott Woodring's house. We have this on video tape. With the actual lab that was used there the LAB these vehicles have been deployed around the country Eight-wheel drive APCs if you want to do a search LAB 25 You'll find all kinds of information on the vehicles themselves There are a number of other eight wheel type vehicles that are Russian type BTR 60s BTR 70s There's also of course the OTs that were built by the other Eastern Bloc countries either from Czechoslovakia Poland kind of contracts, etc We have a number of eight wheeled vehicles that are out there now. The LAV-25 is not the only one, as we know the Stryker is out there now, and there are others. Stryker is a bit of a pig. Very oversized, definitely over weight. Not going to be really great for long term over land operations. For policing operations it might serve for a bit, but even there it's a hog. And both for fuel, for a weight, and and for overall maneuverability, lots of problems. So I'm not too worried about them so much. It's just the idea to understand what they are and how they're used. Well, one thing to look at when you look at Russian armor, what you need to do is get a read from this. And I want to describe to you, and then I want to tell you the read I get from it. There's a Russian armored personnel carrier, Mark. It's hardly taller than a Viper or a Corvette. it's a little bit taller than that you know it's most of the height of your chest and that's the top of the vehicle mark and that abrams tank squat can it come to a stop and then set on its belly can it actually wait it's suspension actually the only the only countries that can do that are the only companies that are still producing something in area basically the russians and the swiss yes Now, what that tells me is the Russians will take a tank up somewhere and then just lower it right down. And this is a naval term, hull down, but it applies over to the hull of a tank also. But when the read from this mark is the Russians aren't counting on a whole lot of high tech. And they'll take an armored force and the support thereof, you know, armored vehicles, right up where they think now if we move just another quarter inch we'll be seen by their eye. That's the read from that you guys. So, and we've told you for a good, good long time that high tech and low tech, you know, hey, there is a count of the Vietnamese little guy. Running up underneath the helicopter and with a about a four-foot piece of six inch diameter hard as a piece of metal almost bamboo in his hand and he ran up underneath that helicopter mark and introduced that to the rotor when it was just jumping away and Moment later that helicopter was on the ground never flew again. How low-tech is that? Just the right piece of material on the right place at the right time now the thing about the system is called hydrodynamic suspension by the way if people are familiar with it The Swiss started using this with the Swiss S-tank, which in reality doesn't have a turret, only has limited traverse and elevation. And where it does all of its aiming from is the hydronomatic suspension system itself. It manipulates the hull hull. Yep, and it also levels. In other words, if it's on a hill, the commander and the gunner can actually level the tank in position so no matter what the terrain it actually can be fixed and of course leveled for accurate fire at range on target. Now, the Russians went to hydrodynamic suspension and experimented with it using it. Some of their heavier vehicles they backed away from, some of their lighter vehicles they pretty well kept to it. The BMP in one variant or another and the BMD, the BMP is the standard infantry model. The BMD is the airborne infantry model. Both of these had the option for hydrodynamic suspension and they did build it and incorporate it. Other variations include turret configuration, etc. And there are many, many variations, not just the three that are the basic primary production model. There were other applications for each of these frames for free support, medical support, different types of weapon systems that they experimented with and then they run them until they run out of ammo, so to speak, and then they switch them back over to their standard configuration, etc. The vehicles can be found in many variants, but hydrodynamic suspension is something that everybody's, I want everybody, we experimented with it to a degree, but never really applied it. The Russians, of course, also went with auto loading systems, which they didn't really enjoy or prefer, and so they went away from it again back to conventional for a period of time, and then they flipped flop back and forth. We're in the same situation. The logic there was to try and eliminate a crewman, but the problem is when you do run into problems, you need that extra crewman. That's right. So the gunner, that way the gunner's not having to, you know, or the commander is having to run from the idea of actually focusing on manipulating his team into a combat situation to all of a sudden having to kick free a case or having to kick free something that's, you know, jammed in the system. Same is true if it were the gunner instead of the commander. Well, then the gun's out of action. Now the commander typically can override and can actually fire the gun as needed. But the gunner is in the optimal position and it's his key job, it's his mission in life in the armored vehicle. Okay? So they call him a gunner. They don't call him a gunner driver. They don't call him a loader gunner. Well, they do if they have only treatment on board. Then he's dancing around doing more than he needs to. Okay? Anyway, point is that, uh, going full circle. That's why they took the batteries and put them outside the hull. Right. I've heard some stories. stories, but I don't want to interrupt you Mark. Remember that this is going to be a globalist agenda. And so the German troops, along with the, for instance, the Dutch and others that are showing up, will be to put at gunpoint, or should say knock down the border at gunpoint when the time comes during the foreclosure phase. We can expect that it is something you should all anticipate. We are as soon as I take get a chance to take a look at that will give you an idea It sounds like a medium or heavy missile battery There are a number of different different systems out there You got to remember that the Germans also acquired the Easter East German inventory of arms So much so that if you look at every category of weapon that they're using in most areas they include the the shall we say vast inventory or arsenal of a particular weapons system that matches up with something that the West Germans were already using. There are a lot of them, so they have used those with portable launchers and they are integrated into a number of different systems like the Weasel, which is an ultra-light airborne APC. It is a tankette by the old standards of pre-World War II to the beginning of World War II, but it is a kick butt little vehicle. If you get a chance to look up Weasel, German Weasel, not the US American Weasel from World War II. This is the new vehicle. They also have a number of different variants. They have APCs, armored reconnaissance, armored security, mortar carrier, fire control, armored ambulance. They've pretty much made a wide variant. There's about 600 of these vehicles in service. The US government bought some for testing to see if it was useful. The basic thing that they did here again, and this is a wise move actually, It doesn't mean that smaller armor is obsolete just to reverse. When all these big tanks, 52, 60 tons, are running around waddling on the battlefield, if they do get into an urban area, they're basically very static mobile pillboxes if somebody really starts to create wreckage. They've got very narrow trails. The other thing to remember, if you weigh 60 tons, you have to find bridges that will allow you to pass that can handle 60 tons. Whereas on the other hand, if a damaged bridge is quickly repaired, light armor or micro armor can get through very quickly, still offer pretty much the same firepower, and exploit situations that the heavy armor cannot. And yet the light armor has all of the firepower of the heavier vehicles. It's not designed to punch it out and slog it out, just getting out in the open. It's designed to shoot and scoot. Fire and forget fire and forget fire and forget by the way beasting beasting beasting beasting no more like cut cut cut cut and Yes, it doesn't take quite a thousand cuts to bleed you to death But it still works the same way anyway the other advantage of these little tankettes and light armored vehicles In these design patterns is that they are based upon conventional automotive parts What's the advantage? Well, you take the most common truck system that's out there and you make your rear drive train, you actually make your drive train up, out of the truck parts. You even use the same truck engine. You try to use as many integrated components as possible. That way, if all else fails, chances are you can find the stuff laying around. or at least variations on it. Think about that. Also, ease in production cost when it comes to overall production operations. You'll see that we have a number of, and this is a good point too guys, from our side. You'll see a number of Bren gun carriers. No, they're not heavy tanks. They're just five-ton light APC reconnaissance vehicles. Now, our American version of the Bren gun carrier was what was called the T10. There were about 35,000 of these things made in World War II, and you hardly see any images of them, even though we used them, the Canadians used massive quantities, and the British used massive quantities. Now, it's not designed to go out there and do a slugfest with a tiger. Yeah, it would be very bad. Yes, not unless there were hundreds of them. Yeah, hundreds and hundreds, and then you swap them like a, well, water, but there you're still going to end up with a lot of your Bren gun carriers, you know, popped on the battlefield. Yep. And it just wouldn't work that way. The point is, it's an APC, an Armored Personnel Carrier, but with modifications, it can be an IFV, Infantry Fighting Vehicle, which Even though it was rated as a light APC reconnaissance vehicle, it did have a lot of firepower and was quite a porcupine in its day. With a bow gun station that normally would mount the Bren gun, which was the equivalent to the BAR, or a Browning medium machine gun, or an M2 Heavy, there's any number of weapons that were mounted and they even made flamethrower carriers out of them. But it seems like they made everything a flamethrower carrier at one time or another. Falls fails you. Well, made it into a clean car. Just the way it works. But anyway, the Bren gun carrier was all Ford trucks. Everybody goes, well, man, if I got one of those, it would be really hard to maintain. Ain't wrong. Ford flathead V8 engine, Ford rear end differential. Everything was Ford standard that made the vehicle run. A pickup truck off of the battlefield or sitting in somebody's barn or garage could be disassembled for pretty much all of the critical parts that would make the vehicle go down the road. Hey, fell Ralph, I got that gun carrier running again. Yep, exactly. And here's the cool thing because of the nature of the rail system, the way the motor is mounted, you could pull that V8, that flathead V8 and put a standard V8 of any kind in it to replace it. All you need is a spacer adapter and make up a set of motor mounts and any number of motor mounts would work. The whole idea is that it relays in a tray in a rail system that is universal. So think about it. You can go to diesel. You can go, oh, by the way we have. You could go to gasoline. Oh, by the way we have. You can use any number of different power plants. Oh, by the way we have. But we've kind of stuck with Ford because there's all kinds of surplus Ford engines out there. So we put the Ford engines into the Bren gun carriers and they keep right on running. And then as far as armament goes, hey, all kinds of stuff can be carried. Kevlar sheeting on the inside, Kevlar tank blankets, armor everybody up. And remember, she's supposed to be fast, which a Bren gun carrier is, by the way. And purely a matter of how bold you are. You've got to remember, it's all steel track. Now, if anybody's ever done steel track on pavement, you'll find that when you try to stop, if you're really, really urgent, Yeah, she's special. So you don't want to go too fast. However, you can go pretty fast with a bring gun carrier and with other vehicles like that that are light armor. Again, track pads, not a big deal. We went with malleable iron for the recasting brand new track pads. Had thousands and thousands of them made. Track pins we fabricated starting in 1984, 85 and we've been making them ever since. So we can make pins, we can make pads. We can actually even cast if need be bogey wheels. When you take a look at the size of those things, it's rather interesting. Again, all of it was straightforward. But once you have an example, it's not hard to copy. OK, guys. So they're out there. They're in their quantity. And again, micro armor gets into places other stuff doesn't. and that's critical when it comes to operations. The Russians also believe in keep it low, that way you're out of sight, out of mind. Well, it is a good policy. You'll notice that many of the new tanks are adopting a lot of the Russian slope policy instead of the flat slab square signature that we saw, you know, starting with the Abrams and then everybody else mimicked for the last 20 years or so. The latest Panther tank in Germany, take a look at its turret configuration. Absolute razor wedge for the front of the armor and for the sides. In other words, the idea is to deflect, deflect, deflect. They're making the effort to do it. They're extending the life of the Panther, the leopard, slap mark in the head there. The leopard tank in its latest configuration. You will also find that some of the other countries like the Japanese are leaning that way even though they make a contract version of the Abrams for all practical purposes. So, I mean, it's a comparable tank. Anyway, ideas, light armor, anything will help people. Now if all else fails, remember sandbags make a hell of a difference. You take a pickup truck, your standard box rear end, reverse the seats, you don't sit on the outside facing in. You put two rows of rail seats in the middle facing out. Then one layer of sandbags towards the outer wall of the vehicle, left and right. You can even put a layer of bags on the bottom which is not a bad idea because it will offer protection against fragmentation from below. Of course as you've seen there's some monster landmines out there but hey something is better than nothing and the idea is to make the effort. You never know what you're going to drive past. You never know how it's going to go off and anything will assist. Well if you're working in an urban environment Mark you have to remember concrete deflects a lot of things. That's right. Well, actually, that's one of the biggest problems I've got is it's totally unpredictable with regard to direction. There's a number of ways to create armored trucks, armored jeeps, even just regular armored automobiles. Guys, any little thing helps, but this is not the A-Team. So I'm going to tell you right now, stressed sheet metal roofing is nice, but it ain't going to slow down a whole lot. No, I'm sorry. T-men 223 kind of goes right on through most of that. Not all of it, but most of it. Another cool trick is guardrail. Guardrail is something most people don't think about, but guardrail stacks nicely and creates a nice laminate armor, especially if you take, say, the sandbags, put them on the inside. You take guardrail, cut it to the length of the box of the truck, put one piece center of the center line, and then you overlap by one half all of the other paneling that you put on, all of the other guardrail. and lo and behold you've got a laminate steel armor covering or sidewall that will protect against a good chunk of what's coming in at you. Remember most of the bad guys are carrying light caliber short barreled weapons now. So the cool thing is, is against most small arms, as long as you do a decent job of throwing the proper protection up, your troops actually have pretty reasonable defense depending upon what the weight capacity of the vehicle is, what it can carry, and what you have in the way of materials. But laminate armor, where you use layers of material to make up for not being able to cast large, big, solid chunks. One of the things is that as energy is dissipated, what happens is the material underneath will stress or will stretch rather than break, rather than shatter or perforate. And so it's like a pillowing effect. Progressively, the energy of the round is dissipated over a wider and wider space, and the round stops. Now that's not true if it's a 90 millimeter or a 105. I'm sorry, guardrail doesn't slow that down much. But against, for instance, shape charges, Guard rail can also be used as stand-off armor. This is another trick. You take three panels of guard rail, one for the centerpiece again, line up the holes or drill accordingly, and create two other flag extensions, top and bottom, overlapping by 50%, and set off about a foot or a foot and a half away from the side walls of the vehicle. What happens is with a shape charge, I'll bet you still have double shaped charges and other technology out there, but against most of what's being thrown at you, that standoff material will deflect a majority of what would have been coming in and would have been doing more damage. Yes. You see this even to the forms of what amounts to heavy screening now that is the initial contact defense. And behind that you'll see perhaps sandbags on a lot of the APCs. Right there in downtown Baghdad. You know? Soap. That's right. Even the striker vehicles we were talking about. Don't show you a whole lot of pictures of this stuff anymore. Everything, you know, they killed all the imagery. And one of the reasons I know they're the only one of the other guys to see. It's not that. The Arabs see everything that you're doing. Come on. They're over there. We're in their face. We're fighting them constantly. consider the world the way it works. As far as collecting intelligence, guys, they have cell phone cameras just like you do. In fact, they buy them straight from Japan and China. They don't have to go through all the middlemen you do. They buy them right from the marketers over there. So they have all the intelligence and imagery collection they want. The only people that they're keeping the information from as far as the donut of destruction goes, the DOD, is awesome. See when I hear the music we're going to break. Don will be back in about three minutes on Liberty Tree Radio. Richmond, Richmond, fixing hands with my brothers, and guard this precious land. To Mr. Lincoln, we take our stand. You're still now welcome, at least to this loyal Southern man. Richmond, sounds a little more forgotten, truth worth fighting for. Richmond, sounds a little more forgotten, truth worth fighting for. Richmond, sounds a little more forgotten. Richmond, sounds a little more forgotten. Richmond, sounds a little more forgotten. to join my people, rich and boy. What's going on, Mr. Butterknife? Hi guys, how are you doing tonight? Oh, you know my standard answer. Still breathing, it's a gift from God. Okay, well you know what to do about that. I had a couple of things that I wanted to bring to your attention. One of them I was thinking about, let's say tactical scenarios, and it occurred to me that in one regard all those war movies that we see are technically accurate. We like to pick them apart and say this is silly and that's silly. But there's one aspect of the battle scenes that I think is accurate, and that is that once the firing starts, Everybody is screaming at each other. I think there's a sensible reason for that. I fired a rifle once and golly was that loud. I'll bet it was. If you want to be heard in a little ways, you don't have to shout, but the other guy thinks you are because you can't hear a thing. I think that once a gunfire starts, everybody's hearing goes to pieces. And that leaves something to be desired because it would be kind of nice to be able to hear people rustling around in the bushes or making their little plans, okay, everybody run around the corner on three, one, two, three. If you can hear them doing that, that might be a benefit. Well, there is a technological solution to this problem. Much as we dislike gadgets, there is a gadget that I think is worthwhile, and that's electronic hearing protectors. These have been around for a while and a lot of them are basically not worth the plastic they're made out of, but every once in a while somebody brings one out that works fairly well. They continue to be moderately affordable. I have seen good reviews on lines from an outfit called Peltor. and tried out a pair and I didn't much like the price, they were over $100 but they sure did work. You can dial up the amplification and go walking down the street and boy do you hear your own footsteps on concrete and dogs barking two blocks over and all that kind of good stuff. There's another brand called Howard Lathe, L-E-I-G-H-T. I have not tried those personally, but I've seen some very favorable reviews of those. Those can be had for about $50. A little bit less than half the cost of the Peltors. I think the Peltors are maybe marketed a lot to the black clad fellows and the prices correspondingly high. But both of those brands are possibilities and I really do think that people that can stand the cost might want to try those out. The Peltors seem to be fond of 9 volt batteries which are available but a little bit on the rare side. The Howard Lathes seem to be fond of AA batteries which are a bit more common. So that's another factor in their favor. In either event, I would suggest people go ahead and try a pair of these. Get them from a reputable vendor if you don't like them, somebody that will let you turn them back in. And be aware that there are some very poor models out there. Routinely, that seems to not change from year to year. There are always somebody that's producing a $20 or $30 model. unless they're just trying to break into the market and establish themselves. Some of them are extremely poor. So that is a gadget that if it breaks, we can take them off. So my feeling on this is that's a survivable gadget and perhaps one that we ought to try. Another example that comes to mind is when you're basically talking about a listening, enhancing, and ear protection device combined into one. Over time we've talked about the butter knife, we've talked about these little pockets. It'll have a speaker, rather a microphone, and you just clip it onto your pocket. The bud runs up to your ear and you plug it in and it's the gain listening device. And you can turn that up until a radio phrase here, until it starts to be so much gain that you get the squawk and then you back it down. Now you're listening as hard as you can. Well, what if you were to take one of those this particular situation inside a satellite dish and point it across the field. That's called a directional mic or a shotgun mic and it's a standard technique. Yup, but there's a way to build one right there without giving somebody $1,000 for a DUTIO version. Right, the old do-it-yourself method of doing that used to involve a phono pickup, but since we now have a whole generation of people who aren't sure what a phonograph record is, those are no longer the visually available spare parts from dead cast away phonograph players, so using an integrated microphone amplifier type module like that is probably the easy way to go. Now, do bear in mind that there's always a limit on what you can do with these. There comes a point where electronic noise starts to appear that thwarts your ability to pick up anything useful. The muffs that I have do the same thing. There's a point you don't want to turn them up any higher than that. They won't squeal because they don't have a lot of connection between the microphone and the speaker, but you'll start getting a noise whoosh underneath that does not give you any new information. So you turn the gain down, yep. Exactly. There's always a sweet spot and by giving you a knob it lets you choose where you want to operate. And just shy of hearing that whoosh is what you want. Now you mentioned something here that leads me in a different direction butter knife. The power source isn't very far in these devices from amplifier and from the nullification device, you know, that which protects your hearing when you're squeezing the gun or the guy over there squeezing the gun. The other thing this does is give you direct pressure, amp, or reticsection because a good 50, just a few yards away, could blow out your eardrum, you guys. Could blow out your eardrum, you guys. One more time, need I repeat? You know, much like if you're standing close to the muzzle of a tank, and those big brakes on the tank, you know, the muzzle brake that puts the sides, there's regulations against firing with troops in the area of there and to X at any rate. Going back to that dinky little bit from the power source over to the little service, there's a basic formula for length of wiring and exposure to EMP, isn't there? Yes, this is one of those empirical formulas that's hard to prove in any sort of theoretical fashion because physicists have done some studies for the DOD regarding EMPS facts. DOD wants to know how do you shield things or harden them so that the airplanes don't fall out of the sky and that sort of stuff. The physicists say, well, you know, the question is too simple, and they start nattering on about a bunch of stuff that would make your eyes glaze over. It boils down to the fact that when you have an EMP event, you're getting a lot of different frequencies in the spectrum all at once. And they'll behave differently, and they'll reflect differently, and they'll do strange things. So the best thing you can do is you can come up with sort of a rule of thumb to give to your aircraft electronics designers. And the rule of thumb that they've come up with, and has been in circulation for a long while, is that electronic designers should plan on picking up 8 volts of induced voltage for every linear foot of conductor. And the conductor doesn't just mean cable. It can mean aircraft, skin. It can mean anything that's conductive. But this has to do with the basic distance from the epicenter from the blast, doesn't it? Well, it does. Larger blasts will dissipate their energy over a wider area and therefore be presumably a little more diffuse. This particular rule of thumb is designed for the Air Force, specifically for aircraft electronics. And the idea was that if the blast is far enough away that your aircraft is not destroyed mechanically. then this is what you should expect as a designer in order to keep the plane in the air. What does this imply for us? Well, maybe some things a little bit different from the mythology that has arisen around EMP. People have the idea that anything electronic is just going to magically go up in smoke. And I don't think that's the case. Now we haven't tried it very much. The only real AMP events we have were from the above ground test events in Nevada. And those were a long time ago, and nobody really knew to expect that at all. And they were surprised when all sorts of electrical equipment failed and things like that. And then they scratched their heads and kind of figured out what had happened. And they hadn't even thought of transistors yet. Yeah, those are all vacuum tubes. They killed electric motors and power distribution grids and so forth. However, what we can expect from this rule of thumb, assuming that it's accurate, and I would be inclined to think that it is, is that the length of run is critically important. Now, most electronics will not be hurt by a 5 or 10 volt pulse, even if they're powered off and even if they're designed to work on 5 volts. So, if you have a radio sitting on a table and it switched off and an EMP event occurs and the antenna is not up. Chances are it's not going to be destroyed. Even though its input is designed to pick up and amplify nano volts, there's a good chance that the electronic devices inside there are not going to be pried by an induced pulse of a few volts. On the other hand, if you think about your house, what's the longest wiring that you will see in your house? Telephones and power lines. So if you've got, say, a 100 foot run from your house out to the pole and then down to the junction box, that 100 foot line, even though it's lightweight, A telephone cable could pick up in theory, according to this rule of thumb, 800 volt pulse. Now that 800 volts is going to do a number on all of your telephones and your modems and anything attached to the modems and so on. The damage will stop at some point. It may stop short of your computers or it may get all the way through. So that's sort of a dice roll. But anything that's that long, your power lines, your telephone lines, your ham antenna, if you've got that hooked up right now, when that happens, can pick up a voltage pulse of considerable magnitude, and you can expect the things that are connected to that to get a major hit. The flip side of that, however, is that an awful lot of the electronics that we have are not connected by very, very long cables. The cables between your computer and your monitor and your mouse and your keyboard and so on are not all that long. They may be 6 feet long. That's a standard length. If they pick up a 50 volt pulse, that may or may not fry a particular electronics device or it may or may not. It may be very random. We can't be sure. These pulses can be affected by nearbises of metal that reflect them away or bounce them around and double them up. There's a phenomenon known as standing waves which can cause any sort of reflection to either double or neutralize itself out. The geometries involved in that can get very complex very fast when you operate. in three dimensions. So for practical purposes they are unpredictable. I would say that in order to protect anything that's precious you would want to take the extra step and put them in a metal box and go ahead and cover yourself in that fashion. The venerable ammo can is an excellent choice. And I would just be astonished if anything, no matter how delicate, stored in an ammo can with a lid shut had a problem through an EMP event. Well, sometimes we talk about speed in particular. Speed is bragging rights on the Internet. But if the computers sitting over here were fried, and I had another, my old computer so to speak, sitting in a metal garbage can, I'd probably be able to bring that out and bring it online if the lines weren't fried right. Well, that's just the case. The service needs to be there for you to talk to the world. The machine that runs at 200 MHz when everybody else is running at 0 MHz, well that wins the speed race, doesn't it? Yeah. A computer rather than no computer. Right. And if you've got useful offline tasks to do, like pull up the spreadsheet that tells you what's stored in which box, that's a useful thing to have. Or calculate trajectories. or calculate your ballistics tables assuming you've already got the program on site because you're not going to be able to download it. So on down the list. So there are a lot of things that you could do with a working machine. If you wanted to preserve working machines like that, what I would suggest is that you put one in good condition. Go ahead and wipe the drive, put on a fresh windows or whatever it is you use and set it aside, not connected to anything. You can achieve an excellent electronic shielding. They're nothing more complex than a big roll of heavy duty aluminum foil and just wrap it up like a great big Hershey's kiss and set it in the corner. No kidding. Yeah, it's a conductor and it's conformant as long as you wrap it around all directions so that there aren't any big gaps in the coverage. You have created yourself one Faraday cage. It doesn't have to be fancy. It just has to be a conductor. Now while we're on the subject of computers, I imagine that most people don't unplug their computer when they go to sleep at night or whatnot. You know, it's pretty much always on the grid. I'd think guilty to that one. Yeah, you know, it's a standard practice. unless you're powering it up with your generator. You know what I mean. People leave it running. If I were to leave the computer running, I'm really 800 volts, so that's going to go across that little meltable piece in the breaker like that. Even if I were to walk out to my and throw all of the circuit breakers out there in that little manual Frankenstein-like switch, you know. You know what I mean? You grab the little lever and you take it off power and you bring it back over and click it into the safety over there. Actually, I disagree. If the switch were open, if the circuit breaker were open, 800 volts would not arc across those contacts. You would be covered. So that would be something to do if you hear that, well, Citi just is no longer exists. It went out in a big bang. You might want to take everything offline for a while if you're situated and have that ability rather than... Or if tensions seem to be high then when you shut off the PC, go ahead and pull a power cable out of the back of the PC and pull a modem cable out and you've done about 80% of what you need to do to cover that machine. Okay, now that length of cable, can you shield that with the power cables and whatnot, even if they're laying on the ground again, they're exposed cable? They can be shielded with a third conductor, if it's properly grounded and all that kind of good stuff. Very rarely does that actually get done properly. You are more thoroughly protected just by pulling those cables and not leaving them connected to anything. The other thing is that a pulse that hits your machine is not necessarily the crack of doom. An enormous pulse will almost certainly fry your power supply, but it's a dice roll whether a spike gets through the supply and destroys your motherboard or not. I've seen utterly obliterated power supplies that left motherboards and everything else intact. I repair PCs all the time, swap in a new supply and away you go. I've also seen others take down the motherboard and destroy everything when they fail. It's a dice roll. I guess the moral of the story is there's nothing quite as good as spares. Again, just another reason too, if you buy a new computer, don't throw the old one away. They highly promote. Look at what we do with dead computers. We take these pieces here and those pieces there. There's a whole industry for recycling old computers now and I think a portion of that is unnecessary. Well, I consider a large portion of that to be dishonest. In fact, a lot of those outputs, if it's charged you to give them your perfectly good working equipment, they check it out and turn around and sell it in Central America. So they get paid on both ends. I don't respect that very much. Well, in fact, it's interesting that, again, rather than tossing it out, if it's paid for, you already have it in hand, put it in another site. Do exactly what we're talking about. In fact, by the way, there are, remember, transport cans, as they've been called for years. I've got eight or nine of them pre-deployed that are set up as full medical support. One's medical support. One's medical communications. and they're an alloy containment box, transport box that they've used for years. Many different sizes are available. Right, you will see a designation transit case also. Yes, exactly. They're out there in surplus and you guys west of the Mississippi have more than we do. The big bulky stuff ends up usually west of the Mississippi at the Cool Depots and the surplus stores that are out in the middle of nowhere. So, out west there are some really good sites heading towards Oklahoma, Nebraska, Iowa and Missouri that we need to follow up on. That's one of those ongoing projects. They have the cans, it's usually expensive to get to where they are. If we're looking for them to palletize everything in a, for instance, a unit or for personal protection and for redeployment, say, to a friendly area where you want to leave everything stored, these are another option. They're just massive ammo cans. That's the best way to describe them. Airtight, very well built. dogs and handles on all sides and easy for a couple of guys to grab and drag wherever. I have a few of those I bought probably 15 years ago and used them when I was traveling around the country just for general baggage. Every once in a while I'll be sitting around here and I'll burp and I will jump and that's the change in barometric pressure has caused one of my cans to burp. You know it's pretty much airtight when it can burp over that such a slow change in pressure. There are a couple of other things that I'd like to mention here. I got a Midway Flyer and it did not go intensively through it, but a couple of things caught my eye. One of them we haven't mentioned or I don't recall having heard mentioned, and it's a small thing and I think that people should pick these things up. There is a small device, looks like a hammer, it's called the Kinetic Bullet Puller. Yes? There's a little plastic gadget, you screw your bullet into this thing and you whap it on the table just like a kid with a hammer toy, you know, making, driving daddy nuts. And what happens is that the momentum pops the bullet out of the end of the cartridge case. Well, we may find ourselves using who knows what kind of ammunition. We may find old mangy stuff that's very irregular. We may find that we've got poor accuracy out of what's available. If we have a bullet puller, we can go through our ammunition, we can pop the bullets out. If we want to do nothing more than very carefully weigh the charge so that we're getting better consistency out of the junk we've got our hands on, we can do that. If we find really old surplus of some sort, even for Dan, we don't care if it's still got a primer in there that's good. We can pop that out, set the old mangy powder aside for some other use, put carefully metered fresh powder in there, and we have remanufactured something that we might not have trusted or we might not be able to hit as well with. And all it takes is this little gadget that costs about $10-15. It's very simple if we have one. They're available everywhere. We haven't mentioned them. I really do think that belongs in the kit of anybody who does any sort of reloading or even thinks about doing some. Well, and real quick, we're getting towards the top. That is something no cartridge is ever thrown away as far as I'm concerned, unless something really bizarre has happened. If it's oxidized and the bullet, if all that's left is the bullet, the bullet is pulled and then sorted. And even though it might even be dinged, bottom line would let you salvage that bullet. You could also use that brass in its primer and some other more improvised device. If it looks so mean to you, you didn't want to put it in a rifle, well, maybe there's something else you could do with that. Yep, exactly. And again, by the time we're done, it goes to pure scrap. But the bullets, If all else fails, remember, in addition to the puller, you also have what's called a bullet swage. And for specific calibers, for instance, say you're using 30 caliber or 45 ACP or 40 caliber, you use it both with lead and you also use it to actually trim or actually spec your bullets when you're preparing to reload if you're getting into micro accuracy. So a bullet swage is a good idea. not that expensive, but the bullet pullers just simply look like a hammer, guys. The best way to describe it for everybody who is wondering. And that's exactly what they are. I mean, literally, the energy of the strike is what actually helps to extract the bullet from the case, and then you can do what you want with material that's left over. But the bullet is the critical issue, because that's the thing that costs money. The rest of it, well, of course, there's been no primers, too. If all of those fails, we've got a lot more scrap metal. What's the next bucket? Yep. Butterknife, thank you for coming up. Yes. You are welcome. Appreciate it. And again, we're going to continue. We've got information on food resources too that we need to cover also on here. I hear the music. As always, God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. Each male prevail in the Millennium Empire. It's on the wrong field on the Marchpole today. And we're bringing our pigmas. That's right.
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