Live 365 Is this still the land of the free and home of the free? Live 365 then go to Liberty tree radio you also find us on am and FM Microstations CB base stations and alternate technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with central and southern Alaska Today is what's the date today Larry today is Wednesday September 24th 2008 and it is weapons Wednesday, so that's a perfect opportunity to remind everybody that We'll be covering a lot of different subjects today. We had Billy Grubbs from Gibbs, what a combination of names there, of course. Billy Grubbs from Gibbs, lubricant. And Gibbs is something we've talked about for quite some time. Let me give you these two numbers out again. If you're here in Michigan, 734-654-6607, you can hold a Tim Abel at the leather barn. That's 734-654-6607, or you can call their 1-800 number, which is 888-647-847. 481-2846, that's 888-241. Oh, correction. 481-2846, that's 888-481-2846. Anyway, Gibbs, we've used this for many, many years. Got a hold of it years ago from the gun shows. And for those of you who are looking for something to use with your tools, as in shop tools, weapons, Any piece of equipment where you're going to be exposed to moisture or weather in any way, shape, or form on a regular basis or randomly. This is the lubricant for you, especially because we might have to lube things up, leave them in place on standby, ready to use, but we may not be able to come back to them right away. So, Gibbs is an excellent solution to that problem. Where I first saw Gibbs years ago is at the gun shows, Larry, they had this tank and they put a .25 automatic that was completely immersed in, originally coated and sprayed and immersed in Gibbs. Well, the thing had been in there for literally for months. The guy never took it out of this little box of corn and the thing was put in. And the point was to show no oxidation, no rust, no corrosion. And this was in city water. As he pointed out, he actually was actually lightly chlorinated water. It wasn't just well water. And so the stuff held up, the weapon held up beautifully for all the time that it was on display. And again, didn't wipe it down again. Know the guy. I knew him for years at the gun shows. And it's like you said, no, this stuff really works the way it appears to work and everybody needs to be trying it out, but especially if we've got weapons where you're going to be in and out in wet weather, in and out in cold weather, in a situation where you're worried about freezing, weapons, sweats, then you take it back outside and guess what? Everything locks up. Well, that doesn't happen with gibs on board. Also good for the wood and good for the plastic. We had Billy up for the whole hour, Larry, for the last hour. and I want to make sure they get all the different ways and places where you could use Gibbs. Another area, saws. drills, tools in general where you're going to be in and out or they might be in a garage that's always got a little more humidity, a little damper. This eliminates losing a lot of your skilled tools, a lot of your trade tools that otherwise might be compromised on and off. That doesn't mean we don't lubricate them, but this is an excellent primary lubricant to use that alleviates the need for a lot of other storage greases and such too. So it is a plus plus. Once you use it on something new and it's permeated into that crystal structure, it's there for a long time. So one more time here. The phone number is 888-481-2846. That's 888-481-2846. And Tim Abel is the representative here in Michigan with the leather barn and that's 734-654-6607. When you call, tell them you heard about the product on the Intel report. Just an ad though, the idea was people have been asking this question, trying to find out more about what can we use to preserve the weapons and keep them from, well, Mr. Rust. and for Mr. Decay. Well, that's what this stuff is for. I just pointed out Jacques Cousteau years ago used, first started using Gibbs on his diving equipment and I'd point out that that's salt water, guys. So if it's handling salt water, ain't nothing fresh water is going to do to really get through to it. Okay? Now, Weapons Wednesday. Well, first of all, is there anything happening down that way that we should know about? Not specifically in Indiana, still no rain for weeks and weeks and weeks. It's kind of odd to see the corn dried from the bottom up instead of the top down. I usually see it. I don't think that's good. We've gotten very little rain. We've got to dab rain in June. Then we've got to one day dab a rain when the remnants of Ike came through. That's been it. It's dry as a bone out here. The dirt is powder. Soybeans and corn do not look good. I did have two cents I wanted to add in. If you go to Infowars.com, down at the bottom mark, there's a link that's talking about the media view, media spin on militias. Have you heard about this Phil Donahue show where they bring several militia members on, including John Trakman and others? basically trying to spend about two gun crazy that well this is a on this was a piece of the nineies right it is if there actually a little go ahead i'm sorry but if you click on that link it uh... broken down into four five parts and it uh... very interesting i think i think dug hall may have been one uh... but it's very interesting to listen to rationally trying to explain the threat to people everyone in the audience everyone stood up as questions were you know sarcastic but we're still there were children with your actors yet it is it will have the deck was probably stacked but you know one of the more telling things when this fat ugly kosher mafia woman gets up with their other ugly kosher mafia type sit behind your steering and says that uh... we need the russians come over here and uh... put it in our place in uh... take the guns out of these people can I mean, this is exactly the type of filth that we have a problem with. You can see the ADL stooge up on stage. There's another gun control persona up on stage. Phil brings them out halfway into the show. They're the typical kosher mafia folks. if your eyes are open if you've got discernment it won't be hard to see what's going on here but it truly is disgusting mark i watched all five parts well interestingly enough remember we covered that as it was happening and i was out west at the uh... militia montana with the truck once when we were fighting to get that back on the air what originally happened the network for so dissatisfied with that piece because we're already picking it apart beforehand but uh... also because for instance jay jay johnson was on their black guy One of the first things that happened is before they even got onto the podium, onto the platform for the recording of this program, they didn't know that J.J. Johnson was black. Phil Donahue's people didn't. They just invited from certain people because somebody said, well, you know, this person, this person. They were so arrogant, they didn't even do a background check on anybody. And they wanted to portray him as racist and that made it a little harder for him. And they actually called J.J. Johnson up and said, Hi JJ. Now you got to remember they had already sent the plane tickets. Everybody was already told what date they needed to be in New York. Okay? And all of a sudden, here's JJ gets this call. Hi JJ from the guys that filled down here. Hi, how you doing? Well, hey, you know, we understand that you're black. And he goes, why, yes I am. It's one of the best kept secrets of the militia. And there's a pregnant pause like, oh my gosh. And then finally the voice the other end goes, well hey, you know, you don't have to show up for this. It's really not critical. You know, just keep the plane ticket and don't worry about it. Everything will be fine. He goes, oh no, no, no, that's okay. I don't have any pressing dates or arrangements. This one and I'm gonna be there. Don't worry about a thing. Thanks for the plane ticket and I'll be there on time. Pregnant pause and then of course, phone hangs up. Now the interesting thing is, after this thing was recorded, and one of the things if you see in this video, Bob Fletcher has got these fantastic large pictures of everything that he was talking about. He didn't hand pictures over to the scumbags and say, hey, throw these up on the monitor whenever I reference them. He knew better than that. He'd been in publications before. He was in broadcasting before. So, what he did is he made these large, as you can see, copies at Kinko's. I'm sorry, CopyMax or Kinko's? I think it was Kinko's. I'm sorry. Anyway, got over there, made them, had them back to the styrofoam, really nicely executed, as you can see. And he walked in with them and he kept them right next to him. Now, Donahue does his sarcastic smile, but every time they went to break, he's telling the grips, get those pictures from all of us two different worlds and everybody in the audience who was in the show got a chance to see this so they're going back and forth and uh... uh... what your gets all the pictures up there but he can see them you might notice read the uh... printed version of the second amendment that they posted up on the screen that the guys on the podium couldn't see The guys up on the platform couldn't see what was posted for on the air reading. You will note that it's the Second Amendment misquoted intentionally. They actually did that. Now, they caught that after we saw it on the air, but it took, you know, you didn't know that until they actually aired it. But here's the thing. It was so bad for the bad guys. And the ADL scum that you see there When they are out there, notice how uncomfortable they get. Every time as this program progressed, whenever they went to break, people were asking questions about, what about this and how can I get hold of the militia in my area and blah blah blah. When the final closing comments were made by Donna Hu, the two ADL scum leaped up out of their chairs and fled straight through the audience. They did not go back into the green room. They didn't go back behind the curtains, you know, you know, swap spit with Donahue. They were so terrified because as they were sitting there, the whole crowd of people that weren't shills and suck-ups got up, stepped forward, and wanted to talk to everybody that was there that was from the militia. They had had such an effect that everybody in the audience came forward and wanted addresses, phone numbers, Any place they could go to listen to anything about what was going on with the militia. The whole audience. You sure wouldn't get that the way they cut it, could you Mark? Nope. It's interesting is when the potlicker jumped up out of the chair, when the two of them jumped out of the chairs, everybody said the audience went, and froze because these characters were like the devil himself was chasing them. More like Jesus Christ was chasing them out of the room is what it was. That is one of the most important things. Even with what you saw there, they felt that in perspective, you have to remember at the time, that everybody stayed focused. It totally blew their minds as far as how everything was plugged in as far as response goes. They did not know what to do. Donahue was totally frustrated and flustered during the event. It's weeks. They knew to the day when this was supposed to come up on Donahue's program as a canned piece. Insiders in the network called and told Trockman, hey, they've canceled the program. They're not going to show it on national television. And we were there when that call came in and they said, well, here, repeat that again for Mark here. So the guy is talking. He goes, oh, yeah, as a matter of fact, it's all canceled out. There's nothing we can do. Well, I said, I'll tell you what, what about complaints? Well, we have this phone number. So what we did is we put the number out on the air. And we had everybody that night on our shortwave program call in. And they started calling in from all over the country. Well, then they said, oh, please don't use this number. Use another number. So the second day, we gave up all the extra numbers they gave to all the different people. They couldn't do business. By the end of the third day, they made a public announcement and put it up on their website in the whole nine yards amongst the industry. That was a missed schedule and that in reality this militia piece done of the Donahue program was going to be on the air after all. And so again, we pressure them back and it was back up in a place and everybody was like, well, that was actually, you know, they didn't really do very well there. And other than the goose, and if you look, this is the same thing we've talked about. This happened after Oklahoma with the Howdy Duty, with the Ted Koppel township meeting, the town hall meeting up at Decker, D-E-C-K-E-R, Decker, Michigan. where the Nichols farm was located. There was a couple of shills that Howdy Doody brought along with him that of course were sitting behind him and their job was to do the, I'm just scared that the militia's gonna bomb me or blow me up and blah, blah, blah. It's like everybody in the audience is looking like, who the hell is this person? And off the air they confirmed, where do you live? The only type that they would take questions from on the show, and it's very obvious, it was very one-sided, and you're correct, the people there expressed themselves very eloquently, they were very rational. Donahue asks, do you have jobs? And they say, yeah, we're all employed, and then he sarcastically goes, legally? you know the one giggle what you know that the main thing to say uh... it very interesting folks five pieces again you can see this at the bottom of info wars dot com comment says uh... media spent on malicious uh... highly recommend checking it out uh... just amazing you know the some of the things that were said but uh... yeah like mark says what's the kosher mafia type really try and spin it on that show. We had people from virtually every point of the compass, which is what they picked. I think they grossed out Bob Fletcher, and they should have done their background there. He was in communications, or had been in communications for 25 years at the time. He had done radio, television, the whole nine yards. He was completely cognizant of what was going to be hitting the beach there when they landed there. some of the pictures that they showed were you know the many tanks that were offloaded their montana and some of the uh... i'm talking russian tanks folks russian military and artillery equipment russian biological equipment uh... now the russians are supposedly off the coast playing with uh... venezuela uh... you think this is uh... they've got their stuff all preposition now mark and uh... i'm sure bush is just gonna let them waltz right in and have their equipment and do what they want with it, don't you think? Well, again, the biggest problem we have here is one more another, maintaining confusion. Somebody's going to be doing the foreclosure. We've been emphasizing this with the bankers who should be arrested and should be in jail right now. Instead, they're out running around on the streets and the US government, which is, by the way, you and me as far as who's going to be paying the bill guys, we're talking a trillion dollars stolen with a T. Now when you start flipping on numbers like this, you can increase the national debt by a quarter, by a fifth, by half, simply with a handful of thieves stealing so much money, or digits, let's put it that way, that you can't even conceive of the number. think about it should be a surprise to people i mean after the bush is still billions and billions of the same so brought up a little on the bottle on the right they were just in bold and they just continued on about that three trillion dollars that uh... rumsfeld mount off about september can't two thousand one dash everybody forgot about the following day didn't mark Again, where do these trillions go? Well, mostly overseas, although certainly into other pockets we know that, but mostly overseas and out of the United States, which again, it's not coming back. They may come in to grab the property, and that's really what this is all about, is foreign indentureship. So, again, going after the weapons is critical to this with Osama bin Inghdong and McLean, both anti-gun. this whole nonsense about sport, there was no, where is there any comment or statement about sports in the Constitution or Bill of Rights? There isn't a single place you will find the word sporting arm or sporting firearm that was never the intention, it is not the intention. That's just a side bar that's a given. It has to do with protecting ourselves from bad government and criminals that gravitate to government. That's what it's about. Clearing out the house every once in a while. Now, everybody would argue that, well, that can't happen or this can't happen. Well, okay, do we believe, for those people who say that, do you believe that the wall fell back in the early 90s? Well, Russia was a nuclear power and, well, didn't power change hands? How did that happen? Wasn't there internal conflict there? So it can be done in this day and age. It's been demonstrated on national television if you all go back to the Wayback Machine. So don't say it can't be done. But here's the thing. We have a lot of people in government that are trying to be honest. Shouldn't the black uniformed thugs be surrounding the individual banks right now and arresting the perpetrators? going through any border and arresting, no matter be they in Israel or be they in any of the Middle Eastern states, individuals who participated in the corruption of our money and the destruction of our present economy. Does that mean that no matter where those economic terrorists are, like in Israel, that they don't have the doors kicked in on them and that they shouldn't be arrested right now for their chicanery which is destroying the fabric and infrastructure of the economy of the United States? Why not? Didn't we grab people across the planet and torture them for the Israelis? Well, what if we're torturing them for the wrong people because they're criminals, which we know there anyway. then obviously we need to correct our path. I wonder how many people are thinking about that. Well, you know. I think we know what we've got to do. But anyway, the point is here that especially it's interesting that he would throw that piece up there right now, Larry, considering that that actually has been floating around for a while. And there, I think, are actually better copies in the general archives than most of the patriot movement. I mean as far as that incident goes. Plus of course, that was covered by our network as the event happened before anybody even saw it. We had a chance to take a look at everything that was available, talk to the parties who were involved with the interviews before that came out on national television. and sit down with them and go over exactly what was done and how it transpired. And by the way, we also, I think we had everybody up on the air that was on the stage there and walked right through the entire interview and all the stuff that was happening in between, which is archived. And Alex could be posting that too, so he could have some fun with that. That would be a good idea. That would kind of put a better light on it and show the truth. Interesting hearing the extra background on this, Mark, and how it actually went down. It certainly It certainly was a manipulation piece, but those that have got their eyes open will see exactly what it is. So don't fear it, check it out. I'm really glad to hear that the audience saw through that because the impression they tried to convey was most all the people that they showed were trying to make fun of them. It was disgusting. Again, count the number of people that they actually had the microphone to and you'll find that they were the same shills. What's interesting and kind of fascinating to me is how many people normally get up on that program. They can get up into the facility to sit in the stage on a regular basis. You have to wait for tickets and all that other stuff. Now, what's interesting about that is that one female with the curly hair and the glasses, the Coke bottle glasses, If you go through Donahue's archives, you'll find she's been on at least five or six of his programs over a period of a couple of years. That was one of the people we tracked down for sure back in the day. There are two or three others, the kosher mafia types. There are shills that float around between the different YAP programs. You'll find them standing up on Motel Willie, Horrendous Revolver, and of course Donahue. So, rather fascinating that again the same pack of actors used over and over and over again. And in the day, when we brought this up, of course, like I said, we did this live as it was happening, which was really a lot of fun because people were like, wow, this is really cool. We scooped the news, scooping the news, you know, talking about how they were not going to report the news, which was a lot of fun. So, it's not that we haven't been ahead of them and it's not that we haven't had good results and we have. The biggest thing is everybody needs to stay focused and stay on course. Because the bad guys of course are hoping that we'll just throw our hands up in the air and get frustrated and no it's futile resist you will be absorbed when just reverses the case because as we have seen I've seen so many times my first question would be If it's so futile to resist and why haven't they just done what they wanted to do? If they're so strong and so powerful and you know blah blah blah blah blah Then obviously the next thing that should happen is, well, back in 93, back in 91, back in 89. If it's feudal resist, you'll be absorbed and they're so all powerful, we wouldn't be having the conversation we're having right now, guys. Think about it. So what's wrong with this picture? Well, it's the same old story. They're trying to convince us to be defeated before, hell, we've ever even joined in battle, per se. And I don't think we're going to let that happen either. So, again, Weapons Wednesday, that's one of the reasons for this, is to make sure that you guys are all at speed with regard to ammunition, weapons and equipment. And Larry, right now, of course, Gee, what a surprise. We know this from the last notice. It already, there's been another ammunition price increase. Gee, what a surprise. Now, I don't know how much more that can stand, but then again, the economy, how much more can it stand? So we're going to see a shift as the valuation of currency continues, etc., etc. Well, I'm just wondering if we're not going to have an October surprise. Do they want people to think that things are settled up through the elections so they can make the illusion that people will vote or something? Or are they really preparing to crash things? We got to go to break. We'll be right back and continue that thought line here on Liberty Tree Radio. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. Before God I swear this creed. My rifle and myself are defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life until there is no... Why can't we hear the red coats? What mind you madness fills in our valleys? There is danger, and there's danger in our hills. Oh, here you're not just singing of the views of a wild and free. But soon you'll know the ringing of the rifle from the tree. Oh, the rifle, oh, the rifle, in our hands, will prove no frightful. You may ride a good late speed, you may know it's a turn of master. You forward much with speed, but you'll learn to back much faster when you meet our mountain boys. And the leader's your start. Glad you make what little noise and always hit the mark. Oh, the rifle, oh, the rifle. In our hands, we'll prove Noah's rifle. Okay. Alright, welcome back. You're listening to Mark Carkey and Larry Lawson on Liberty Tree Radio. I couldn't hear that, Mark, so I couldn't tell them who that was. That's actually Old Rifle and, of course, the This Is My Rifle creed based upon World War II rifle indoctrination and philosophy. And again, the Oh the Rifle piece changed over a period of years. It was first played in the American Revolution. It was used in the War of 1812 and even in the Civil War, well, more than the War of Aggression or the Civil War, depending on which side you're on, and all the way up through even to the Spannam and World War I period. So very interesting again, an undying American song that, well, of course, then the Ringknockers and those are anti-American, which one to make disappear, which of course, as we know, they did. We're keeping that song alive and also keeping everybody else up and online accordingly. Interestingly enough, comments made want to say thank you to our friends in Illinois. Just a quick overview on what happened down with the hurricane in Houston again. Lo and behold, Larry, the street gangs were out in force under the assumption that, hey, they could probably get away with pretty much anything because FEMA terrified and attacked everybody else. The street gangs were pretty well left alone and got away with murder. However, where people were well armed, they didn't have that problem. And so they had to protect themselves from A, the local street gangs, and B, the FEMA federal street gangs. Both of them with the same intent and with the same purpose in mind. Disarming you, stealing the property, and killing you if they got the opportunity. The other thing there, which of course we've warned about time again, is to have ammunition on hand. A lot of people were running around like chickens with their head cut off at the last minute trying to figure out where they could get this caliber or that by what they were saying and asking their neighbors and this and that and the other. Not so of course the people who were prepared and listening and have been organizing for quite some time. Having to do with signal communications, one of the other issues we've talked about is to have radio technology on hand. Now there's two reasons for this. Fire and maneuver makes a hell of a difference when you can talk to each other and you're not having to guess. When you are using fire maneuver, it's nice to have something that's kind of hands-free, but even if all you could do is go to the truck stops, which by the way are gludded, and I say gludded with all kinds of electronic doodads and trinkets from China. Well, right now there's handheld walkie-talkies, nice little units, five mile range, and as little as $12 to $14 a set, Larry. So, it's not like you can't afford to get simple local tactical communications. We don't need it to talk to the planet, not a handheld. In fact, just to reverse, take this into consideration with militia units. If we have 10, 20, 30, 40 formations operating in the same area, many of them will probably be using the same frequencies. We don't need to talk to the third of the 25th, located 25 miles to the east, when it comes to moving a fireteam or a squad. So, that's why transmitters are limited because you shouldn't be that far from your fire team or squad to begin with since you're supposed to be a fire and maneuver unit. Okay, a smaller formation. With that in mind, these small handhelds are perfect, but they're also great for being upstairs and downstairs, not having to shout. How about just from the house to the garage, just from the house to the back 40? Anywhere on the property where you're having to do a perimeter sweep. Two of you together outside at night doing a perimeter sweep. Two squads or two fire teams with only one RRO. If all you had was one radio per team, it still makes a hell of a difference. So the other thing was communications, but CBs. And I'm going to emphasize this. It's not communications Tuesday. This is Weapons Wednesday. But even CBs can create an excellent communications network. At the very least, you plug those in with a few other tools and you actually have on one of the oddball frequencies local radio. Local emergency band radio. See how that works? All kinds of solutions. Another little trick real quick. If you're a micro FM broadcaster, and let's say that you're not going to continue to broadcast but instead want to use it for tactical purposes. You can talk to your security or perimeter people utilizing small dollar store FM receivers. I've got one on my hand right here. It's a little digital unit. I think I'd go with the dial up, Larry, instead of the one I have here, although it's not a bad little radio for a dollar. But it comes with a little set of earbuds. You only use one at a time. Keep one ear for listening to what's going on around you, the other four communications. And if you have overview security, in other words, cameras and other technology plugged in, Your FM base station can actually be made semi-mobile mobile or it can be fixed with a security site and it can be transmitting out to these little $1 receivers and passing on information wherever you need to That's awful cheap. Yeah, you're right it is and that's the whole point you can be giving out general signal communications information via the micro FMS and Use it to coordinate operations along a wide front very inexpensive and the receivers, well, how many receivers can you buy at a dollar store if they're a dollar apiece? And you have five dollars. That's five receivers, Larry. That's cool. If one breaks, what do we do? Pull the other one out of the wrapper. If that breaks, what do you do? Pull another one out of the wrapper. Well, again, I'd suggest putting some backups and some aluminum foil because, folks, we've got Russian guided missile destroyers off the coast. How soon do you think it's going to be for the next popover in this country? I know we're going to have our army destroyed that's the plan of the new world order and we've set the thing up is the media talking about this at all i mean you know they're yapping about this uh... financial crisis which is stage but gosh mark i'd really think that uh... responsible media would tell me that we've got uh... potentially deadly nuclear weapons They keep yacking about the mythical nuclear weapons that Iran is supposed to grab. One of the things is there's a bunch of revolvers coming out of these cop shops right now, a bunch of Smith & Wesson Model 65s. 66 is, there's some L frames, they're okay but they're not something to jump at maybe. The 65 and 66 is a K frame. If you've got a Smith Model 10, a Smith and Wesson Model 19, a K14, these weapons are all compatible with the 65 and 66. They take the same speed loaders, they take the same leather. What's cool is revolvers are reliable. If you have a malfunction with ammunition when you have to start improvised reloading, not as in regular reloading, but we're talking improvised. If you have a failure to fire, guess what? You pull the trigger again and she goes kaboom. If you miss a chamber or something's happened where you weren't counting properly and for some reason skip slid, you open the cylinder, you close it again and forgot to change something out, you pull the trigger until pop, pop, boom. Click, click, boom, until you hit something. That's how it works. Also, nice thing, revolvers are heavy. Great to beat on people with if they have to use them as a mayhem weapon close in. So they are an option. The Smiths and the K-Frames, of course again, there could be others. There's a couple of the other Smiths that are out there. The Rugers are showing up, but not as often because there weren't as many Rugers sold out there to departments. But they are available, and both the Speed 6, the Security 6, the Smith and Wesson 65, Smith and Wesson 66 all those arms are perfectly serviceable. I would even think twice if you threw it at me I'd figure out how to use it real quick because I already know how. And the advantage is kiss. Keep it simple, stupid, positive action. Most important is again small spare parts if at all possible. The advantage of the 65 and 66, oh did I mention they're stainless? So you're looking at minimal maintenance there stainless steel very good choice now. Yes You're gonna get some shiny surfaces or at least light surfaces That's not a surprise and it's the downside of the stainless weapons, but most of them have a good matte finish It doesn't really jump out at you right away And that's been a big concern nickel plated weapons on the other hand do however even there I get hold of a nickel plated Smith model 10 or you find a model 60 4 or a model say undercover 36, you know a little J frame. Hey guys, they're gonna work just fine. Remember the J frames are very comfortable. That's the next size down. The J frames are very comfortable for the ladies and as a youth pistol for people who are needing to learn how to use their personal arms. You know learning to build up their experience with arms. The J frames are only five shot revolvers, but they work. They come in two inch, three inch and four inch. even six inch if you run into some Rossi's that are basically Smith & Wesson knockoffs. Okay, so there are other solutions. Charter Arms is back in business again Larry and the charters in the little charter undercover which was the most, it was boasted as the smallest revolver in production in a 38 special caliber and it is a good revolver. Years ago a lot of guys were really leery because they weren't familiar with the metallurgy or the engineering design And I know a couple of guys, what it is, they're trying to tell their friends, oh don't trust the charter arms undercover, blah blah blah. So what they did is they double loaded a couple of .38 cartridges and said, well let's test that and put it on the bench. They didn't tell them that they overloaded the round, overloaded the projectile. And even though they overloaded it, the frame didn't split, the weapon didn't bend. We did bend, forgive me, it distorted. So they actually damaged what was a perfectly functional firearm. But the point is that I saw about the charter under covers is that considering it had a double charge in it, it was designed for failure, the weapon didn't stretch and split and break, it just stretched, which is what it's supposed to do. That's what triple case hardening does with military and with civilian receivers. It doesn't fracture and you end up with parts in your skull or anything like that. Double charge, in other words, basically an old proof test load as it would be called in this case, not proper for that particular weapon. So the Charter Arms weapons are decent designs, they're very reliable. They are very lightweight, so for those who are looking for something that you can tuck away, put in your web gear, hide where you need to hide it, that's a nice choice. And one of them that I don't know if they're making it at Larry in any good quantity right now, but the Bulldog. It's the Charter Arms Bulldog 3 inch barrel, iron combat sights, not adjustable, although you make it with adjustable and I think the new ones do have adjustable sights if there are any new ones being made. The models that I saw look to be adjustable, but a 3 inch barrel 44 Smith & Wesson Special. This is the 44 Special to the 44 Magnum, the way the 38 Special is, is the 357 Magnum. and carrying one of those for a long time, I could put anything, I could actually hit the target strangely enough with a three inch out to about 100 yards. Now I don't know how much energy was being dispersed there, and you're golf balling around in, but the point is that that match king projectile worked just fine in that three inch barrel, and once you learn to place that round, in other words where your weapon hits, it wasn't that difficult to actually bring her into the target area. So, again, familiarity is a critical issue too. Are you able to shoot the weapon and train with it, practice with it, so that you know where it hits? Now that gets into something else we've been pushing everybody into, but we're going to do some more of it. Reloading. If you haven't done reloading before, there's a myriad of books out there. Research them and start to collect them. I've got stuff that's 50, 60, and 70 years old in reloading and people are going to go, well, what are you going to use that for? Well, because I might end up with, for instance, a 303 Savage or a 30 Remington. Now, 30 Remington, the caliber itself is cool, but as far as 30 Remington, gee, there's boxes of it on the shelf by the crate. That isn't the case. And so if I have a 30 Remington, I'm going to be reloading whatever I have on the way of brass real quick, and I'll have to fabricate brass, which is another issue. Well, as long as I've got to fabricate brass, And I've got to go through the processes. I better be pretty darn good at it and not have to guess. With the older reloading data books, I don't have to guess. I have my library on the shelf. All I have to do is pull the box out of storage. There are many of them. To the proper category and subject, plastic bins designed there, airtight, watertight. And what I do is pull out the text that I need, reference the caliber, and act accordingly. Now the other thing is, there's a lot of old powders laying around out there. There's a lot of stuff that is perfectly serviceable, in many cases never opened, properly stored, indefinitely, I mean time stored by being kept out of the moisture, being kept dry in general, and out of the light. Well, this stuff's going to show up and it will work and serve our purpose. But how do you figure out what it does? If you don't know what it is, then you're going to end up having to figure out burn times and there's whole calculations you have to go through math-wise, which you can do. You can do it, but you're wasting powder. Whereas on the other hand, if you have a factory load manual from, say, 1938, 1952, 1965, then the data for that powder is probably going to be in there. Now I don't have to guess as readily if it's a certain caliber that I want to load that may be, for instance, off from the period of time. All I need to do is look at case dimensions and I can figure out what I want to load it to based upon the nearest specification. And I can do test batches and then find out what my point of impact is. So, reloading is critical. And reloading is something where RCBS, Lee, Herters, there's a bunch of companies out there, Dylan's out there. These guys have donated and provided a lot of equipment over the years to the militia and the Patriot effort in general. Dylan, of course, has production presses and has actually given us production presses to put on the shelf and run. I mean, we're talking presses that are as big a larry as half a Volkswagen. So pretty well, they're industrial grade machines. I'll bet for basement and home use, let's put it that way. So they're out there, they're available, you got the money, you can become your own little factory without any problem. But even if all you've got is a single stage die, you are a little reloading plant. You are a little operation. But you've got to learn now, so you want to start practicing what you're going to be doing later. You don't have to be doing it every day. Kind of like what we did in World War II. A lot of times what they did with certain arsenals or armories or companies is they said, okay, run these dyes, run this equipment, make a test batch of this stuff, and then let us look at it. And they would find out where they needed to tweak, have them do another production run, show that they were able to produce the product, be it a carbine or powder or magazines or whatever, and then they would give them another mission, go on to something else. But they knew that if they had to come back and perform that particular task, everybody in the factory could handle the job. The machinery and tooling was in place. Everything would be ready to go. That's the mindset you have to have with small production across the board. Remember, that one round we get, maybe the one round that tips the scales the rest of the way in our direction. So improvise, adapt, and overcome. Now another thing, Larry. We had a couple of the guys send us, before I forget on this, forgive me, send us some pictures during the last two hours of the programming for the Intel report during the day here. Say that again Mark. We had a couple of photographs that were sent to us by email. Vehicles on the east coast. Both of those pictures are Lab 25s. Those are the LAB 25s. One is a back picture from the left side of the hull towards the rear deck. The individual in the back to the right is wearing what looks like one of the new Kevlar helmets. I understand there's a little model change that's out there, but it's not completely in everybody's hands yet. The tank crew itself, or I should say the APC crew itself, are out of the hatches and traveling down the road. They were about a quarter mile apart. There were five vehicles. And this is in traffic, by the way. The other shot was from behind, apparently them traveling with traffic down the road. Multilane highway, by the way. And again, camouflaged in the normal configuration. There was not, the pictures that were taken, there's not a whole lot of additional information that can be pulled from it. Savannah Tange water can slash gas can, I'd have to look closer at that one. Some of the other savannah tan slash desert items, which is going to be expected, poor military, is stuck with a whole bunch of junk that's been done in the Middle Eastern tan colors and is pretty much useless in this part of the planet. Now what's going to end up happening is we're going to be painting a lot of this stuff again because If they're going to be anywhere else in a temperate environment, then Woodland, you know, the green, OD green at least, or Woodland patterns, or a disrupting color over top of the tan is going to have to be the norm. Otherwise, the desert tans just jump out at you like it's a shoot me signal, shoot me color. So it's not a good choice for the environment we're in. But anyway, we do have other pictures which I have not seen yet. Ed was just telling me about. showing launchers in Texas that apparently are UN marked. Now that would not be a surprise because remember we've been tracking the Germans down there for quite some time. We know the Germans have specific facilities, by the way, they're at Roswell, not as UFOs, simply as foreign troops slash aliens. But in this case, heavy rocket batteries. We'll have to look to see what model they're UN painted, UN marked. So it would definitely behoove everybody to pay attention to what's going on. And for everybody that says, well there's nothing like that, guys, this is the age of the camera phone. You can't find an excuse not to have a camera now in one form or another. And I'll give you an idea. You want a really good video camera for little or nothing? You can go into Meyers, Shifty Acres, or Walmart. They've got a pocket-type camera now, Larry, that's the size of a cell phone. It has audio pickup, it has a simple no focus lens system, it's got half an hour's worth of memory standard, and it has a 2 gig memory stick that can be plugged in with most of them now. If you get the older model, it at least just has the half hour standard memory on board. These cameras shoot as well as many of the other commercials that we've used over a period of years, people. You can't tell the difference between them on the computer or on a monitor from any other regular production camera. And these things are handheld. Little tiny things. So there's no excuse not to have the technology to do the reconnaissance now. Even if all you do is take the last generation or the generation before that instead of the **** stuff. the You have one guy in charge and three man teams. The militia is up there to duty. They said next to whatever, Obama, that they have actually got 7.60 by 39. I said well, he says what do you know, Walmart and us and everybody else has in stock by 39. Americans buy 7.60 by 39 so weapons are using them. Exactly, supply and support system, the existing infrastructure taking advantage of it. But they say the... Well, they've stripped the resources, plus the... In the long run, when all this is done, the Russians get the Northwest. I have emphasized this many times on the air, and I'll repeat it again. When they divvy the country up, people are just looking to the Southwest. The Southwest is ass-land, that nonsense, and the Mexicans are going to be basically handed it over on a platter. And the Chinese are going to support them. Right, and they've got all the logistics they need there. The Northwest, the Russians are all the way down into Washington State, into like Seattle. They were already showing up there in the 90s and mass. Several times when we flew out there to speak, when I was out there guys, there would be Russians across the counter and I would start asking questions. The supervisor would step forward and whoever the person was would automatically step back in routine Exactly in other words that way they were buffering. Oh, you're a you're a thinking sheeple. Oh my goodness Well, I'll take care of you. Is there anything you need? Yeah, I'd like to know why that person's working behind the counter. She can't speak English You know and well they're working in they're working the fishing boats. They're working the in the Walmart's they're working at the canning factories They are working at the airports, they are working everywhere. Displacing people and jobs that normally Americans would have. Right. But the other thing is, as a kid, I was an old man, but anyway, he showed me on a topo, and the Canadians are their friends, down, and they know they have no escape. Well, again, they are going to have to think their way because a lot of people are thinking of running to Alaska. Do you remember that? They're going to close the border and they're not going to allow that to happen. Right. And the problem is that that is going to be one of the frontiers that's, well, look at what we're already talking about. They want the oil pumped up there. The corporations will betray us one way or another so that they can get into those fields. And I believe they're not American anyway. They could care less who it was, whatever flags there. They're just going to be able to, as long as they're able to drill, they'll be happy. And I don't think it's going to make a whole lot of difference. Uh oh, I hear the music. Well, I got one more thing to tell you when we come back if you don't mind. No, George, go ahead. Go right now. Go real real. Okay, you know, global warming, global warming, Alaska, the Arctic Circle's not freezing back up. The Russians have gone along with the submarines and bombed the seabed so they can keep the passage. Well that's one of the things we reported on remember a year ago. Well I didn't hear that, I apologize. The Coast Guard's reporting it and an enemy reported it and no one's listening as far as telling us down here in the lower 40 it's not global warming it's a Russian. For at the very least again they've got the largest volcanic activity bed right there underneath the Arctic Circle right now for the first time in history. However it happened it's there. Right. They can't debate that but they're trying to hide it because after all they want more of Simone and his survival. Thank you George. Thanks, everybody. This market's up. I'm going to sign off. Appreciate that. God bless. We're at the top of the hour. Well, there he is. God bless the Republic. Death eternal to the New World Order. We shall prevail. The Empire is on the run. We are on the march. Ooh-rah. Six Bennett's. Kick them in the slats all the way to the coast. Give them a backpack full of dye-bowl machines. And they may learn to speak Russian, but it won't do much good at the bottom of the ocean. Thank you, Larry. Well, you know, like, are they like polarized or something? Well, what do you care? They're free. I'm giving them to you. Just put the glasses on. We're sitting here relaxing, having a cup of coffee. We're in a coffee shop. Everything's cool. Go ahead. Just put the glasses on. I don't know, Mark. Maybe I don't want to know. You know, this is pretty freaky stuff you're talking about. All right. You're my friend and I trust you. I'm going to put these glasses on. I'm going to put you. Give me a hand with those glasses. Here. OK. OK. Not a problem. Put them on. I know Tom, in fact look at there's one on that woman's shoulder too. It looks like kind of a giant slug with like an octopussy kind of mouth that's stuck. It's crazy, it looks like it's got... The way it's born in, it's kind of scary, isn't it? Looks like a ball worm. Not, not at the time. Is anybody else talking about... Tom a lot of us do we've all been paying attention for a long time. You'll notice look on the one. How did you find out about this? Well Tom Tom it's okay relax Tom remember We're all thinking we all know what's going on I've been watching this all the while you and I've been sitting here as they've been coming