September 8, 2008
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Mark Koernke discussed preparedness and self-sufficiency, covering backup power systems including crank generators and solar options, food preservation through drying and canning, and foraging for seasonal fruits like elderberries and pears. He emphasized militia participation and force multiplication, criticized higher education institutions and Harvard graduates, promoted the upcoming Huttari militia exercise on September 27-28 with detailed equipment requirements, and provided extensive firearms commentary including criticism of inflated Sega rifle prices, recommendations for AK variants and .308 rifles, and analysis of specialty weapons like the TNW 1919 and Browning conversions.
- preparedness
- food preservation
- canning
- militia
- huttari exercise
- firearms
- sega rifles
- browning 1919
- ak-47
- .308 rifle
- gas mask
- combat load
- michigan
- harvard
- self-sufficiency
- backup power
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Live 365. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we are on live 365, then go to Liberty Tree Radio. You will also find us on AM&FM Microstations, CB Bay Station, and Ultra Net Technologies, both east and west of the Mississippi, and Alaska, of course. Well, down to these days is... Hey, you guys, it's 8th of September, and it's just past 8 o'clock on the Eastern Seaboard. Five o'clock in California, so time to get home safe pay attention is right We a lot of work in fact getting darker out there now here. We are guys. Oh, yeah We're on daylight savings time if we weren't it would be dark now I wonder who thought of that was that Benjamin. Mm-hmm. Did that you mean Joseph Stalin women you say no? Anyway, well thing is just from you know again kind of messing with the time schedule anyway here as we know Maybe just here together earlier and be done with if you want to take advantage of the light It's not like there was any instant communications. Don't tell me. Let me guess. The Internet of 1780 or 1791 or something like that? There wasn't anything like that there. As an example, only it's seasonal as far as the heat. In Arizona, when I was in Phoenix, when I was 16, Mark, I spent the summer there. That was like 1970, 71. The doctor's offices there, they'd open at 6 and 7 in the morning and be closed by 3. Not the hospitals, but if you went to your dentist or your private practice doctor, he wasn't there after 3. He was out if he wanted to, maybe on the golf course or whatnot. A lot of the professionals and semi-professionals were the same way. You get up in the morning when it's cool, you get everything done before the heat of the day, and just basically time your day around your circumstances, be it the sunlight or the severe temperatures of Arizona. Right, hunkered down in the shade during the really bad weather. periods when it gets hot hot hot hot which of course is going to happen a lot of course a lot of that gone now market phoenix is a lot bigger mora with the fact that phoenix has gotten so much bigger it's like new york is rubbing off you know what i mean every city has to be full and bustle now of new york so to speak and if you you see it in commentary like uh... everybody drives like they're in new york city now we were told to move out of cities Stay away from the metropolitan areas. Well, actually, the way things are going, it's obviously said that's going to be a needful thing. In light of what we're seeing right now, oops, pardon the pun. In light of what we're seeing or not seeing, for lack of light. One of the things to remember is backup lighting and electronic systems on board, guys. Now, there's a bunch of companies that are doing crank technology right now, windup systems. that also have solar backup and they have a number of other support systems on board that can be both radios, flashlights, whatever. Now there's varying quality, but of course as long as you don't view them, amazing enough to actually run for quite some time and are a good standby system. One of the nice things about some of the crank generator systems is that you can put them into storage in a location indefinitely and you're not going to have a problem with them. Think about that. A lot of people are worried about flashlights and storage with storing batteries. Because it's true, the batteries eventually are going to explode, leak, blah, blah, blah. We have a really bad situation in our hands. However, if you have some of these other crank up systems or crank up in solar combinations the way they're set up, hey, that settles 99% of the problems. So you should look at that as a solution for shelf storage in pre-deployment areas. Now, that doesn't mean you won't have something else show up. But, any time that you can alleviate pressure on your power supply, be it a generator, battery packs, whatever it is you're using, well, even a car and you're running off that because you figure you're going to plug stuff into it, well guys, the car takes gasoline. At some point you're going to run out. If you can take pressure off that system, that system will run that much longer and it won't be running for the minimal purpose of keeping the lights on or being able to listen to a radio one hour a day just so you can hear what's going on around the planet. Again, take a look at the solutions. There's a bunch of Russian handheld flashlights. There's the Shaker type flashlights. You've got to be careful to make sure you're getting one that really is the type of flash that everybody thinks it is. But those can sit on the shelf indefinitely and when the time comes because of the storage capacitor system that got set up, they can be used for a period of time, then you have to manually reactivate them. No problem. But as we see this situation change, the other consideration is watch your yard sales. Oil ramps of any kind. I don't care if they're tiny ones, big ones, indifferent ones. Everything in between. If you see it and it's $1.50 or $2 apiece for a nice little oil lamp, grab them, pick them up, and put them on the shelf. Worst that's going to happen is they sit and stare at you. But you know what? Take them out every once in a while, use the equipment, practice using the technology, and see how they work. See whether or not you can operate with them. The age of lamps and the age of oil is a little different with regard to the lumens that were put out. It's softer light, but you can still combine it. One of the things you can do to save electricity, let's say you want to sit down and watch television tonight. You could light the lamp instead of turning on the light bulb, and you get a chance to actually operate from a different generation and overlap with state-of-the-art space age technology. So it's not a bad idea. Again, experiment, because we need to be able to do this. At some point, power is going to go off. When the power goes off, are we ready to deal with it? Of course, that's the plan. We're going to make sure that we do. Well, another thing you mentioned, Mark, when you think about garage sales and whatnot, you might see one, a bicycle without a front wheel or without even a front end on it. If you can get it for a dollar or three dollars, pick it up because, you know, the thought that leads me here, Mark, is most of the disaster movies we see these days, it's all of a sudden there. They don't show the gradual progression, the state where the hero is now, you know what I mean? He's out there picking this as he roams the land, the only person. He has three people around him. Oh, grab that. You don't want to live like that. Even if there are other people in the world. If you can gather that around you now. It's the gradual part they don't want to tell you about. When people are grabbing everything they can. It'll be worse than... I'd still like to bring this as example, Mark. You and I, we've been around long enough and the listeners, remember in the late 70s there was the toilet paper shortage? Yeah, I remember that. Everybody talked about it until everybody ran out and bought all the toilet paper off the shelves everywhere and created that. Well, that was just a little rumor of something bad. You see where I'm going with that? That was just a little rumor of something bad. paper on the shelf. You don't want to think like that. And oh, we're going to have to bring up the freeze dried guys. Phone the mark. Again, if you hear about meat at the butcher shop today and there hasn't been for months, that's okay. We've had meat in the soup every night or every other night. Well, at the very least, TVP, texturized vegetable protein. Remember, all is failed. That's out there too, guys. Anyway, real quick on the freeze dried guy, it's freezedriedguy.com. That's freeze-dried-guy.com. Now you get a hold of him. He's got all the meat products and a lot of other things that are specialized food products that are freeze-dried, obviously, that's why they call him the freeze-dried guy, that will be a plus-plus for a lot of you who have food restrictions with salts and sugars, or at the very least with extreme additives. A lot of food is preserved with salt, sugar, in other words they use something to supplement to keep the things stable on the shelf. Well, the cool thing is all it is is regular food when they freeze dry it and they just turn it into freeze dried stuff like styrofoam. All you do is add water and there you go. Now all of a sudden you got whatever it is it was supposed to look like. And in reality, as long as you follow instructions, don't chop it up and don't stir it a whole lot. Just let it sit there and suck in the moisture amazingly enough. It will look just like what it is supposed to be. Again, make the effort to stabilize your food production and your shelf storage. One of the things I did today, we picked elderberries. Today we're on the end of the elderberry season and right now with all the moisture we're getting just in this little wave, everything has gone lush. Now the other thing we've got is choke cherries. We're down at the end of our choke cherry season, but we have got a tree that has some phenomenal choke cherries on it, so we're going to be doing that. in the next 24 hours to get the choke cherries in in time before we lose them. But for anybody out there, remember canning. You might want to go to the store and start picking up more lids. We've talked about food production. Now we have to look at food preparation and storage. Drying or wet packing. Now either way, whichever way you go, you're going to need something to put everything in. So it wouldn't hurt to be looking at different containers. Now, I like to, when I'm writing, for instance, we do dried foods where we dry something with a food dryer. What I will do is Ziploc bag it. Of course, now there's also vacuum bagging systems that are out there, so it's purely up to you. But at least Ziploc bag it, and then put it in the jars of the containers. Now, the jars or containers will work by themselves, provided you can seal them up completely. Because once they're isolated, the stuff just sits there and stares at you, unless it gets any moisture from the air that reattaches to the food stuff. And then, of course, changes in the environment. But we don't want to do that. We want to make sure everything stays shelf stable. So to do that, you all have to be thinking ahead. So think the process through. Take a look at what it is that you have on the shelf that you want to keep operational and you want to maintain. and then organize accordingly so that it is squared away. But there is a whole bunch of drying systems out there and as far as Ziploc bags, don't tell them you can't afford them. Because if all else fails, go to the dollar store. Find the best price on the shelf, shop around a little bit, and let your fingers do the walking sometimes. You can contact companies and ask. And what you do is figure out what it is that will work best for your needs and then utilize as quickly as you possibly can. Now another thing If you don't have a whole lot of storage, remember, I should say a whole lot of money, drying is not that complicated. And the cool thing about drying the food is that, again, you can take a simple series of Ziploc bags and even, for instance, cookie cans. And with dried apples, we've got free dried apples all over the place. Dried pears, another one which really, those are actually tastier around and drying them is not that difficult. You can leave the peel on or you can take the peel off. Pears are very forgiving as far as the way they're grown as far as any maintenance on them. Pears are probably some of the most consistent fruit you're going to find that you can pick this season. Lots of them laying around. Most people aren't going to do anything with them. Pick them up, slice them up into good sized chunks, and throw them in the dryer. Pull them out, put them in the Ziploc bags, fill up a can, go to the next one. You can mix that up with apples. You can also do other fruits. But, apples and pears, this season, guys, the trees are loaded. There are places you can go and get them for free. We just picked most of the trees here that had no spraying done. And we've done several cobblers, we've done a whole bunch of other good stuff like that. Applesauce, apple butter, all off the trees that normally would hardly be producing at all. This season has been phenomenal for fruits and for berries. So, if you're going to take advantage of it, you've got to start working at it now. That doesn't mean you're too late, because most everywhere in the country, the stuff is on the shelf. It's sitting here, I should say, it's in the tree. You've just got to get it on the shelf. So, you need to work at it a little bit. But think through right now what you need to do. Because if you hesitate, well, it's going to cost you that much more trying to replace it with cash out of hand. And a lot of you say you don't have that. So, let's think positive here on this one. There are food dryers you can either make or use. The best way to do this, if you are listening on the internet anyway, is to do a search for food drying, air drying systems. You would be amazed what you can find out there in the way of little packages that are made up with nothing more than a window screen, a little bit of wood, and nothing more than a light bulb or even a little computer fan. There are all kinds of systems out there you can build. It is just a matter of creativity. Think what I was just talking about there. Even if all you had was a little 12-bolt computer fan, a little conversion system, a wall wart, and a couple racks made out of simple 1x pine with window screens stretched in between them and tacked into place. You stick the food in there, you run the fan up through it straight up from the bottom. If you want to, of course, needless to say, the little light bulb would give you all the heat that you need, the conventional light bulb off the hardware shelf. And there you go, drying rack. Basically, air up, heat up, moisture pulled out. And in so many hours, you have yourself some dried fruit. Not a complicated process by the way peppers and many other like onions and a lot of other objects that are out there You're pulling out of the garden a lot of vegetables can be dried in the same way So this is more stuff you can put on the shelf so again We're giving the ideas not just complaining about the problem, but we're all gonna starve well only if you're really caught me if you're really caught stupid and otherwise We're giving you the direction to go take advantage of it follow through now Another thing real quick This has to do with something we touched on earlier today, first into the second hour. I'm going to mention this again. I think pretty well everybody this hour is up to speed and copacetic. We've asked everybody to help to build the militia. Something that came up is the whole idea, we've got this solution, which is true. There are many ways to help to secure. or to at least build up the strength that we need for the future because when we do get into a war we're going to have to have a machine or mechanism in place to continue to operate a form of government. Well guys, if you're going to participate and we will support you in all the activities that you are involved in, the only thing that I ask is this, support, sustain, and maintain the militia. Now, one of the things I didn't finish, I guess, again we ran out of time because we had so many people that called and we had quite a few callers today. But one of the things is that even if supposedly you thought that the threat was gone, the threat is never gone. The founding fathers would tell you this. The men who built this country would tell you that the only way the threat is eliminated is if good men persevere. That's what Thomas Jefferson was trying to tell you when he said something like, I expect there will be a revolution about every 20 or 30 years. Right, and the point is that the militia still has complete application as part of the many tools that are the discipline of the free man, as in the thought processes of free men. We have a job to do, and there are people who go, oh well, we don't really want to do this, or we don't want to do this, or we don't want to do this. So we can press that envelope that much farther. They can beat on that many more women and children. They can attack a man in his car or in his home and try to get away with more mayhem with reckless abandon. Instead, just reverse. No, we're not going to put up with any more abuses. Everybody's pretty well tired of it. We're going to basically grab a 2x4 and beat the living snout out of them. It's that simple. So we're going to do what we can there. Anyway, point is, I expect to see you all supporting the militia in the same way, helping to build the militia, spreading the word about the militia, passing on more factual information about what the militia does, what we are supposed to do, and to continue to expand our forces. It is part of what we call force multiplication. All of you can serve some component. If we were to today, Come up with a wonder, all of a sudden the enemy threw their hands up in the air and said, oh you're right, we could have had a V8. Let's all leave and let you get on with your business. Then we would still have a need for and a place for the militia. All of this peace, love and dope nonsense, all the warm fuzzies in the world ain't going to do it kids. I'm sorry, that's just not how it works. Well that would just tell me you guys that they got the pencil sharpener ready. You know what I mean? I'm Anyway, and again, somebody would say, well look, buy yourself. No, all of us together. See, that's the other problem with this. The only reason you're going to be all by yourself is if somebody shirks their responsibility. I should mention that real quick. Only if somebody shirks their responsibility. And if everybody stands properly, the enemy realizes all too well that, nope, they're not going to get away with whatever scurrilous nonsense they thought they were going to plug in. This is something we need to emphasize repeatedly over and over again. Now, we are going to help with the politics of the day. We are going to help to educate people to good government. We are going to continue to do everything we can to inform the bad guys. It would really be a very bad idea to proceed with what you are doing. I don't think they are listening. I think part of that is because they are the dumb puppies of the litter and about as brain dead as the day is long. We had quite a conversation about that about a week ago. We had this conversation during the antique engine festival with one or two people because they were in the Ann Arbor area. It's like, oh no, these guys are just much brighter. For instance, Osama bin Laden went to Harvard. There are only two things that show up at Harvard. Screamin' Poufters were preferred. In other words, Queer as a $3 bill or quadriplegic homosexual escapades. And the screaming harpies. How many of you have seen this? And this is true of a lot of, this is why none of these colleges impress me anymore. Several times when people have come out of these campuses, the screaming harpies syndrome where since they can't debate, in fact they don't have any intention of debating or discussing, everybody says we've got to come up with a peaceable solution. Well, that isn't going to happen because the screaming harpies of course are in there to just rant and rave. They will throw food. They will do all of these bizarre things which otherwise you should have got them cut side to head. I don't care who the hell they are. But instead everybody tolerates them and then just basically rolls over and folds up and doesn't know what to say. Well, we do know what to say. The people in the audience should turn around and box them side to ears. Eventually, that is really what is going to have to start happening. But here is the thing. This is happening on college campuses with the supposed goofs that everybody, oh we are there, they have been to Harvard. No, that would be a flag right off the bat. Don't hire this person. In fact, and probably the best example is like in different movies you have seen, oh he had to go to Harvard. Oh my goodness, he should go to Harvard. I wish I could go to Harvard. Why? I mean your local college would actually do a better job and if you are focusing it doesn't have any bells and whistles. If your mission is an education, it doesn't need a football team. What does a football team do for you? Somebody else makes some great money from that but you sure as hell don't. Other than the rah rah rah of Soviet socialism, okay, where you get them involved in sports, rah rah rah, oh the team, the team, what team? We. Yeah. We. I like that a lot Mark. We like we're the we're the world champions this year everybody in Detroit or everybody in Pittsburgh. quote unquote. So think about it, even that's goofiness. It's like, well, that's a Detroit team now. A bunch of mercenaries got together and they got the word Detroit attached to them. That's it. I mean, you're in California or you walk away with it. It was a lot more local Detroit. You're right, Mark. It's the closest thing to what was described in the original Rollerball movie where they're sitting there, the two guys that are, one was a coach and the other one was James Cahn. And the guy goes, well, okay, some of the teams just kind of disappeared. Houston has energy. He goes, well, what happened to Dallas? And he goes, well, where did these teams go? I don't understand what happened. And he goes, what about so and so? And that's the whole point. They went from being, well, these are the home products and all the blood. No, they're just being a facade, the plastic we've talked about. It's not that it couldn't be different, it could be. But it's the nature of the creatures manipulating this, just like they were manipulating the gladiatorial games, oh, 2000 years ago. You have another hunk of bread. Yeah, wow, look, it's a little stale, but this nice spot over here, this kind of soft, mmm, look, green maggots. Yeah, oof, they almost kill me when you hit me in the head with it. That was an old loaf of bread. Anyway, the point is that I read in circuses and all the other nonsense aside, it does make you wonder sometimes. Like I said, going to Harvard. Well, actually, after I read that, it was like, that makes sense looking at Osama bin Laden because, like I said, all of his pictures, you've got him looking at his half silly expression on his face. He's kind of looking up from the ground. It's like he's looking, if you look at the angle, he's like some homosexual on Castro Street looking at some guy's rear end. Which if you've been on the Ann Arbor U of M campus guys we watch it all the time you see it constantly the Pufka's are really big at East Quad they're really really heavy on campus and There are certain places where they operate and of course they've been allowed more and more to take control over whole elements of the administration And that's not an exaggeration for all these poor people in fact even a guy was talking with us weekend or two week a week and ago one week ago That's what I brought up and he was like, oh, I wasn't like that when I was in school. Well, that was 50 years ago. Yeah. Okay. And that's what they count on. That's what the Alumni Association counts on. The Puftehs have gone run rampant, literally bare butt naked down the halls. Oh, I could not dare stories. I could tell you histories. See, stories would be like, no, histories of actual activities. because we saw them first hand not somebody said somebody somebody heard we saw them first hand well we are all know we're at the bottom the hour I expect to hear the music in our ear any minute now cool so now hint hint wink wink not not so for all of you to listen we'll be back in about three minutes here this is Liberty Street this is the Intel report live And, real quick here, you know another thing, of course, Harvard was our subject before we left the bottom of the hour. But, I guess one of the biggest problems is that people have to overcome what their perception of what was happening in an institution or a facility. and what is happening now. This is the most common mistake that is being made. It doesn't mean that there aren't good people at all these institutions or people that are trying. I dealt with a lot of students when I was working at the U and what I would tell them is get out of there as quickly as you possibly can. Get on with whatever it is you want to do in life, but get out of the university. Get on with it. Get the degree you want, because their goal is to get a bachelor's. Get on with getting into the workforce, and then from there demonstrate your ability. When you come back, you'll be coming back with some authority. In other words, they don't like that either because you see the world in a different way when you realize you have to make a living. Now that doesn't mean there aren't students. I know several students that kind of did like what I did when I was in school where I had one or two jobs at a time and I paid for everything myself. But cash, I never took a loan out for anything. There's nothing out there where Mark Krunke owes something to the government for in a way of a government loan. I always laugh when I hear these BS general conscription, you got to file for the selective service and if not, you could, you might not be able to get a government loan. And you won't get a government job and it's like, okay, your point. It's like, well, moo, I wouldn't qualify anyway. Let's see, Mark doesn't have enough of a suntan and let's see, I'm not an illegal alien. And there's a whole long list of why Mark wouldn't be getting one of them Gooberman jobs nowadays for obvious reasons, you know? Plus, I actually think, okay, a lot of them are being hired specifically for not being able to. That's all there is to it. So, with that being the case, whoopie doo! It's like I get on the worry about trying to take care of myself because I can pretty well figure that even if you did have the Gooberman job, it won't be any different from the union operations or the jobs in America here in general. When the time comes, they're going to betray everybody, or they've already shown them, they'll betray everybody left and right. And you may think you're going to have some kind of security, but you have none. And the government job postings are going to be the same way. If all of a sudden they decide to be really overt, the bottom line is you won't be in a promotion, they'll expect you to work, and they'll expect you to keep the system running, but you won't be promoted and you won't go anywhere, and eventually they'll just phase your position out without the option for transfer. Uh-oh, wait a minute, they used you until they couldn't use you no more. Yep, that's the program. So instead, why don't we refocus on doing for ourselves? And that's one of the things that everybody needs to look at doing. It doesn't mean that you can't use the system in different ways. I mean, of course, beware there because with any arrangements come, well, patience that they'd like to set up. Remember, you get a little bit of a crumb and they expect to take half an arm. Okay, keep that in mind. Anyway, other things going on right now. Well, one more time. We want to make sure, well not one more time, but the 27th and 28th we have the Huttari militia exercise coming up. If you would like to find out more, first of all go to huttari.com. H-U-T-A-R-E-E dot com. That's H-U-T-A-R-E-E dot com. Hootari dot com. Or you can email them if you would like an RSVP to hootari at yahoo dot com. That's hootari at yahoo dot com. I always like to do that, except for all of you. We can do it on radio. One of the most important things here guys is if you are going to participate you must be squared away. You're going to need a combat helmet and you're going to need, it doesn't have to be Kevlar, regular USM1 steel pod will work just fine. In fact they're readily available, they're good helmets. Make sure you get all the trimmings to include a sweat band. The helmet liner and the helmet liner sweat band, that helmet liner sweat band is what adjusts to your head. Now also make sure you've got the chin strap, but beyond that a gas mask. Now there's a number of different places you can go. MaineMilitary.com. MaineMilitary.com. You can also go to Centerfire and a couple of other. Centerfiresystems.com. Epicenter.com. Epicenter.com. Epicenter.com. for supply and support. We do have some resources that will be on hand, but again you're going to need a helmet, you're going to need a gas mask. Make sure you at least have a basic filter. And a backup. Always carry a second. It should be in your backpack. Ideally put one in your butt pack, which you carry with your load bearing equipment, and one in your backpack where it's in your backup system. But at the very least, one gas mask, one helmet, load-bearing equipment, your house load, and a sleeping bag. Guys, it doesn't matter what you want to do, but it's going to be Michigan cool up here. September is already upon us, and it's the weather. It is a changing. So by the 27th and 28th, expect cool, expect wet, and you won't be surprised. Because we're in Michigan, and the weather will change every other minute. It will be 40 degrees here tonight, Mark. Middle of the palm of your hand, Michigan. It will be 40 degrees here before the sun. So everybody be squared away when you end up on the ground here, at least two ponchos, one for your butt pack, one for your backpack. The reason, because ponchos are a tool. So if you don't have two, try to scrounch another one up. You still have plenty of time to do it. Other than that, your load bearing equipment, combat load, and your personal weapon, whatever one you're going to be carrying. You will be live firing, so plan on 200 to 300 rounds of ammunition should be on hand, and will be part of your combat load. So 300 rounds, minimum would be 200. I don't know how they'd fudge that through. In fact, we're going to talk to the instructor in charge or bring them up on the air because there was a variable and parameter there. We'll work that out. Beyond that, it's common sense. Most important is bring your brain. Don't leave that on the shelf. Make sure it's squirted away, dusted off, and ready to roll because you guys are going to be receiving a lot of instruction. There will be both classroom and field, mostly field. They are going to be training in the field with the gas mask and patrolling for an extended period of time. The idea is to get used to the idea of using your mask and living in your gas mask because it is something you're going to see. It's going to happen. So, we want to make sure we are squared away there. Now also, combat load should be the combat load that you plan on carrying in the field. Why? Well, you better test it now before you actually do it. Yeah. Don't worry, it will get lighter than you want it to real quick, especially the food and water part. Okay? This is another thing to keep in mind. It's like, man, my back is really heavy. Don't worry, after 9 meals or 6 meals, it's going to get a lot lighter real quick and you will wish it was heavier after a few days. Okay, now that means regulating your food though too. So you're going to have to pick what it is you're going to throw in the backpack and if you're going to throw in goodies, munchies, you know, crumbly stuff, remember whatever you carry out is all getting carried back as far as the junk goes. In other words, not leaving a trail that people can track. So if you carry something out, understand that whatever was held in, whatever it was wrapped in, is coming back with you. Again, we are denying the enemy intelligence. That is the basic rule. Now there are ways to dispose of the debris and trash that can be done in the field. We will probably teach people a few things there with regard to that. The basic rule is to carry it out, carry it back, dispose of it when we get to the other end. Last but not least, although again just a reminder, a good pair of boots, not jungle boots, It's too late in the season for that now guys. A good pair of boots. Make sure that you have all of your boots polished. I don't care if they look like they're polished with a Hershey bar. This is not the active military. We're not trying to look at your, you know, be able to see your crotch and the reflection of your toe. Okay? What I want to see is that the boots are sealed so that you feel less misery. The boots will last longer even though they may still get wet. They are going to survive longer because the leather will be preserved. This is critical, so you need to be polishing your boots, checking all your leather items, clean up everything to make sure there's no dirt and junk piled up in anything, and then do a quick inspection on your arm, lube it for the weather, and be prepared to act accordingly. This is going to be a major exercise. It is going to be attended by more than a few states. There will be a flag ceremony at the beginning of the exercise and a presentation. And then on with the mission. So a lot of work to do. You are going to see some really cool stuff coming out of this exercise and some unique new tools that we have been working on that will be utilized by the troops. This is a critical operation, 27-28 of September. Also, if you want to check out the videos, you can go through a link You can go to YouTube and then punch in Liberty Tree Radio. That will take you to our site. And then from there you can also go to the link to Hootari if you want to. Or you can go to LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com. And then go to our video link from there. And we have the new video up. Ed did a great job. It's got a good representation of all the things that happened. at the Antique Engine and Alternate Energy Festival with everybody trying the equipment out. We had electric cars there, we had the moped bikes there and much more. You get a chance to see everything from micro steam technology all the way up to the existing stuff that goes back 100 years to present day. And Jim Monahan is working on a steam car. It will be a finished product probably in the next couple of weeks. He has some winter work to do up north but then he is coming back south here and waiting in the shop is the final product. So we are going to be seeing more of that. Hopefully we are going to bring him up to have him give us a review and when he gets the basic vehicle off of the chocks so to speak then what we are going to do is videotape it and show everybody exactly how it is and what it is he has put together. I am thinking of getting a fiberglass like one of those What do you think? Maybe mini corvettes? There you go. Look a little different with the wheel size though, but it would be kind of cool. Exhaust in a different place, yeah. Do do do do do with the steam pot through the middle of the hood. That will be a little different. Wait a minute. A little different from the intake cowlings, but the point is that one way or another we are going to come up with a body for this that looks totally contrary to what is under the hood. underneath the shell and that's something that we've talked about for a while. There's all kinds of fiberglass and plastic castings out there right now. They're light light, they're cheap, and they would be fun. So we're going to come up with a solution. We're going to use it when the time comes. I might even make it into a pickup truck. You never know. It would be the first best choice. Make a steam powered pickup truck. And we've been talking about that. The Brown Engine pickup truck is already in its past prototype phase. There's a couple of people that are running the prototypes for destruction. In other words, we want to run until we see what breaks as far as the mechanics go. Yes, and then when we see what breaks, that's what you beef up and fix. And we go do it again. Find out what breaks next. That's how it's supposed to be. And that's a quiet project, but it's moving ahead, and it's moving ahead in a positive fashion. So there's several different steam projects and another electric project that is in the works too. So we'll let you know about that as it comes up. Beyond that, we also have Nob Creek on the 10th, 11th, and 12th. And again, it sounds like there's going to be a couple of major ammunition piles there this time, guys. I just talked to someone today. And by what they are saying, somebody, although one guy ended up doing exactly what we thought, one of the guys went under because Knob Creek was cancelled and he put a big chunk of money into his ammunition. Well, as we know, he was planning on selling it and not walking away from any at Knob Creek, but at first he wouldn't come down in price. Apparently that has happened. So one person basically picked up the pile of goodies. from two different distributors and is going to have a fairly major series of pallets down there at Kanob Creek for you to check out. We'll find out what happens there. Of course, prices aren't coming down a whole lot. So in fact, they aren't coming down at all, though we've seen. But an availability varies depending upon who made the ammunition and of course, how many people are looking for it. That's another problem. Another thing real quick, and this is shifting in another direction. Hey guys, you know I was recommending the Sega rifles when they were reasonably priced, but I am not going to recommend the Sega shotguns and rifles if they go off into the twilight zone price wise. The Sega's are nice firearms, but they're not weapons you're going to spend $700 and $800 on like we're seeing now. Now the .308 Dragonov copy, that's been about at that price range for a little bit, but They are right now hitting prices of $499 and $500 for the Sega 12 gauge that was sold here less than 3-4 months ago for $219. Just because I like something doesn't mean I like it so much I am going to get gouged for 3 times the cost of the weapon. Right now they are looking at right here, Sega 12 gauge shotgun, $529. Guys, the 410 right above it is $299, in other words $300. You know what the difference between a 410 and a 12 gauge is? It's only so many gauges worth of metal. Yeah, in fact, that's what's stupid about this. It's like, eh, eh. So I'm going to tell you right now, in fact, the 20 gauges are $449. Eh? Now, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Let's just sit on our hands on those for a while. They're nice, but they're not nice for that price. In fact, looking at the SAGAs, They've started to jack up everything and paying the price on these things. And again, it's nice that everybody has been buying them, but that doesn't mean you start ripping everybody off, because the cost to make them hasn't changed. They're just intentionally going to gink us. Now in the rifles, in the SEGAs right now, the Sega 223 rifle in a 20 inch barrel, if it's 319, then I would say go the 20 inch barrel over the 16 inch barrel. Does everybody hear me on that? If you're going to buy the Sega 223 rifle, go with a 20 inch barrel instead of the 16. If the 16 is what you got, no don't get rid of it. It works fine, but if you can get more barrel for the same price, you get more barrel for the same price. Because first of all, this is built as a light rifle slash carbine configured weapon. Do not go out and spend $300 on replacing the stocks and whatever. Leave it in the stock that it's in. It has a C type stock. What I said before I'll say again, if you're practicing with the Sega in its original configuration, which is the same as an M1 Garand, an M14, a Mini-14, and a 1903 Springfield, guys then leave that in that configuration. You'll be able to cross train more readily. You are adapted to the weapon system. Utilize it in that form and keep the cost down. If you are going to spend any money, you don't spend it on changing the stocks. You spend it on buying more magazines because they are expensive anyway. Now we are going to change that hopefully with the Sega 308. More on that in a bit because the Velma project is pretty well complete and the Velma rifle project means we are going to be able to get Velma 308 magazines to the troops for about $10, maybe $12 a piece. That is as opposed to $100 and $200 a piece. Guess what? You get a lot more magazines. The idea is there will be steel. The Sega 308, we are going to have to do some spec sheeting on that. That comes with a 16 inch barrel on the one model and of course the Sega Dragunov copy is only $549. That makes it the cheapest Dragunov knock off of the bunch, which is one of the ways to go, the thumb hole stock. If it is going to be the shorter barrel, if you are going to get stuck with a 16 inch barrel in both, go to the cheaper rifle for $80 less. Notice I am really quoting cashier because there is no significant change in the actions and there certainly is no major change in the production line. So this is all greed factor now being plugged into the SEGAS. When they were affordable and when they were cheap that was great. Now, in the same breath, Right now there are some 7.62x39 Romanians available, remaining 8Ks for about $3.79 apiece. Now again, they take standard 30 round mags, they are regular 8Ks. And for the difference, let's see, I don't see a really grand 299 for the regular SEGAs and 7.62x39. So it's a toss of the coin, it's a matter of what you want to spend. The most important thing is that it is also the blades. If you are going to pick up an AK and they try to stick you with the same price on the SAGAs, I'd go the Romanian. If they are going to be the same price, in other words, they are going to try and charge about $370 to $400 and they were sitting there side by side, go the Romanian for the standard AK. If they give you a better price on the SAGA, go the SAGA. A lot of you guys were lucky and hit the SAGAs at the right time before they jacked up through the roof. Now, one more thing here. Some days, strange machinery shows up in the world of guns. And somebody here got a really strange idea, Don, and I can't do this to the microphone, but forgive me. If you go to Centerfire, somebody decided that let's take the most cobbled of all worlds and stick them all together. So they've got something called the TNW 1919s. OK? What are these? Well, imagine taking a Browning 1919 air-cooled gun and trying to slab on it all of the gunk from a squad automatic rifle as we presently carry it today. It looks interesting, but no, no, we're not talking the 1919 A6s, A7s, or the squad type, which really, this solution was already given to us years ago. Instead, this thing has got an FN mag 58 type buttstock but they put the pistol grip underneath the box for the magazine for the Browning. Now guys if you don't know how high a Browning sits plus this thing has a Star Wars type front hand guard which of course has a pick and any fixtures all over the place. Plus it's got an add-on bipod which has to be longer because of the pistol grip and then the barrel is shorter and then it does have a carrying handle and then it doesn't have well wait a minute by the time you're done This thing starts to look like the Mattel 7, but weighs like a brick. It's like, okay, it's somebody's idea. Let's try to make it look like the Mag 58, which actually the Browning, the Mag 58 is a Browning design, so they're correct in their respect. My only problem is, okay, now here's the price tag on this, guys. It's only $2,699.99. Wow. Wow, such a deal. Wait a minute. I could buy a whole lot of, well actually down below I could buy a standard Browning for $21.99. Hey for the other $500 I could buy myself a hell of a lot of good stuff like ammo and belts. And it's semi, both these are semi auto. It looks like it would be interesting to look at but it doesn't look like anything I jump at. You know what I mean? Because it's trying to put on too many bells and whistles on something that was again Browning's design worked just fine as is. When they came up with a solution, most people might recall this for Korea and into Vietnam, they put a sheet metal buttstock system on it, a pistol grip that worked pretty much like the original, and a bipod system that was fairly compact, keeping the weapon fairly close to the ground. This TNW1919 is the answer to a question that was never asked. Centerfiresystems.com it should be on their webpage. It may work just fine. Someone is going to have one of these probably at Knob Creek. Somebody else is going to need to check it out, take a look at it and go hmm interesting idea. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't. We'll see. But just looking at the thing, too many trinkets, trying to do too much at once and having to stretch too far because it's doing something it wasn't intended to do. Well maybe Tim Barro is listening. You know you guys? Again if you're looking for that, hey. you know, and it's a semi-auto, granted it'll put, you know, weight down range, but for that kind of money, that range, look at any variant of Armalite's AR30, you get that in 30 caliber all the way up to .338. Now, you can send some stuff down range a lot more accurately than I'd bet that, and it's a bolt-action magazine-fed gun, so it's not a single-shot bolt-action gun, but an AR50. Here's an idea, you know, that's the thing about that. With a 30 caliber, you know, Don, one of the things, has anybody ever seen radiator tubing for like baseboard radiators? Oh yeah. It's a copper tube with the aluminum running through, you know, aluminum fins for radiation. Okay, let's say I want to make a poor man's BAR or I want to make something at least going to be pretty decent. You know, right now you could go to Armalite, buy a standard, buy an H-bar, a heavy barrel AR-10. You can buy 25 round mags for it, right off the factory shelf. You can buy a heavy barrel, or I should, forgive me, not heavy barrel, you can buy a heavy rigid body knockoff of the M14 type bipod. Now, you take that front hand guard off, you go out and buy yourself some of that copper tubing we're talking about with the aluminum striations for cooling. And what you do is you have somebody form you up an alloy box to put that in with lots and lots of holes like the 203. And they can either round it or oval it on the top and bottom. Now, this is designed to slide over or actually can be cut so that it bolts into place on the barrel. What that does is it gives you radiating fins like you used to have on the Japanese woodpecker machine guns or on many of the Tomsens for years and years. Now, between that radiator and the additional cooling surfaces that you're going to have plus ventilation and the bipod, you have a poor man's BAR that will do everything that that... factory standard. So again, there's a lot of solutions, but you know, it's a neat thing. I didn't even get a chance to call to find out what the weight on this thing was yet. But this is one of those situations where it's like, okay, who wants to carry the 39 pound weapon? Can you run with that thing? Well, not really fast. In fact, hardly at all. Whereas, you know, even the spider firearms guys, look at the weight of the 50s we're looking at. You're able to carry that thing, run with it all day, and bring it into service when the time comes. There are 50's out there that will do that job all day. I just want to keep that in mind. It would be cool if you are going to mount it on a vehicle. That's the next thing somebody would tell me. Well you can mount it on a vehicle. Sure. But for $500 less I can mount the Browning on a vehicle and it's a lot more manageable. The standard Browning. Okay. So just don't want to keep you thinking. They also are offering by the way a semi auto 303 Bren gun right now too. Price is only $3,000. Well, with that being the case, like I said, let's return to it. Let's go back to what I mentioned earlier. A nice .308 rifle with lots and lots of mags. Like maybe a CETME rifle or a G3 with about old .30 mags loaded up in aluminum and a nice bipod. And take your pick of whatever optics you want to put on the roof and a laser sight if you want. And wow, a lot less money. You get a lot more done. Doesn't mean I don't like the brands, but And if you've got the wallet for it, hey, go for it puppy. Not my problem there. You'll go for it. It's a great idea. It's just the idea that when the time comes, it's what's it going to cost. And there's a, by the way, they also are making an MG 42, actually an M53 belt fed, 8 millimeter semi auto, and they're making a German MG 34 now too. Oh, I'll tell you what you guys, that 42, your finger can't move fast enough to overfeed that gun, to overcycle that gun. No, you won't heat it. When they're in full automatic, when they warm up, they just go like a sewing machine. Sounds like a chainsaw. Actually, it's what they sound like. They sound like a burp. They burp like a burp. And that's one of the things to keep in mind. You aren't going to be doing that. This is a semi-auto rifle, but in the MG42, the duration is what it comes down to. So they can advantage all these old military