September 5, 2008
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Mark Koernke discussed hurricane preparedness and emergency response, including the role of FEMA and Homeland Security in disaster management, structural reinforcement techniques for hurricane-prone areas, and the hazards posed by roofing nails to emergency vehicles. He covered ammunition reloading techniques using SABO sabots and alternative projectile materials, promoted preparedness supplies from Maine Military including DPM camouflage chem suits and gas mask adapters, and took calls from listeners about local political organizing efforts in Texas to elect constitutional-minded officials and build well-regulated militia structures, as well as commentary on McCain and Palin's foreign policy knowledge.
- hurricane preparedness
- fema
- homeland security
- structural reinforcement
- ammunition reloading
- sabo sabots
- maine military
- chem suits
- gas masks
- local politics
- constitution party
- militia
- texas
- election monitoring
- preparedness supplies
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave, in this, the land of the free. in home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm, so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic in each God-given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the midst of whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each god-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, dill the land of the free? and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, central, and are listening to us on We The People Radio Network, WTPRN.com, that's We The People Radio Network, WTPRN.com. We're also on Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg dot com. You also find us on AM and FM microstations, C-Bay stations, and Nutnet, Tech of the Mississippi, and Southern and Central Aladdin. To our friends there. Guys, and it's just better than zero miles to the gallon, Omar. activities around the country. So the south storms to the east, plain old Michigan weather to the north. So don't worry about us. We're fine. To the south well in Muggy land slash Sunny land, California. Now they got a mix. The weathers in general are always a friend the case for as long as I've ever been alive. I can remember even when I was little when the great hurt up the Mississippi, we could stand, could see the individual arms in broad daylight. It was really bizarre. That's neat. Look, and you could see him pass one after and of course, those were, you know, again, want to mention about these hurricanes is that guys, they were great and have been great hurricanes that really put most of these to shame at one time or another. But especially in the 60s. I mean, I remember in the early 60s and 60s, we had a couple that walked right up through the middle of the country. It's not that we haven't had storms before. It's just that now we have FEMA and Homeland Security and they just want to flex their muscles. So everything is absolute disaster and crisis. Well, no, it's not. It is We do have a need to take care of things, and of course you have to overcompensate. That was the reason behind one of the other many examples of how they could use the last disaster. Well now, let us go crazy this time. Well, even now, there are a lot of people just tell you what, once you just go on down the road, and we'll take care of our house, and you go panic in year zero with the other characters who don't have a clue. And so everybody's happy. The police say, yes, go dance is living life the way they have for hundreds of years, and before FEMA, and before Homeland Security with foreign troops, you know what I mean? Of course, you can blame the need to evacuate the low point at the Army Corps of Engineers and say it's all... Look at what they've tried to do to the Mississippi, almost from the way down to where it just burst off. Look at what they've tried to do to the Mississippi. As an example, wooden ships in the ground a mile and a half, but they used to be. And 20 years later, the Mississippi just changed the shipwreck right out there in a quarter. A major river like that exits the create... Mark, you know about this. You guys, a lot of you guys know about like the Mekong Delta. into what, the line of sea there or something. Let me check my map. That becomes a buffer zone. That is a great place for saltwater to become brackish. Not even saltwater and freshwater fish breed there. Around the turn of the century, not into the Houston area. People lost their lives, something like that. It might have been into 30 years after that, wiped out. Some rich guy built down all the way to Key West, Mark. And there was actually a bridge in a way. It's good that that bridge has been replaced. If you were driving two Model T's, one north and one southbound, you'd feel comfortable. Why? America truck the other way, you're wondering how is the T somewhere in 1920, 1930? Is this that even people lived there? Gosh, we come up to a pace, you know? You might have a hundred, what's the hurricane mark? Above 78 miles an hour or something? So as far as the flags, the Navy or the nautical warnings are, 78 miles an hour. A hurricane will run up 180 miles an hour. More than that, you guys, is the tornadoes. the tornado spin? Well here again the biggest problem that we have especially isolated areas is not so much you may, most people don't prepare for on-site. I mean Okinawa, they get the typhoons and such. One of the things that's interesting is they found that some of the best defense points were protecting themselves for what? Oh steel reinforced concrete fighting positions that were built during the war. Hey look at that! They don't blow away. They sit there and stare at you. And all you do is shut the blast door and lo and behold, you can pretty well handle anything that's coming at you. Yeah, what it was designed to do to protect everybody from those incoming manmade things, it works just as well with any of the natural problems that occur. And I've always wondered why it is they don't promote, and of course, I understand why, because that puts people at risk, which allows you to manipulate them in different ways. But why you wouldn't do small shelters that are just built into the houses? Example is, If you've got a typical house down in Florida, you have a little garage area, well, towards the back of the garage. You can't dig in mostly because obviously the water table is pretty high, but you can turn around and do a multi-cement block thickener, like security chambers, so that it can handle the weight and the pressures that are involved, which really the pressures aren't so much a problem. It's just, again, wind speed and collapsing debris, and then secondary projectiles because of the wind. If you have a rubble filled double wall, standard cement block structure sitting there, it only has to be four or five feet tall. It doesn't have to be very high. You're only going to sit down in it, you know, and again, make sure that things properly engineered. Guess what? Make it deeper, you can make it wider, you can make it as big as you want. But the idea is that that structure would survive pretty much when everything else is gone. Now, the only thing I will say is this. All the people who used to build down there, built with cement block and concrete. My grandparents built down there in the 50s. And when they built their place, you, for as far as you could see, all you saw was Palmetto or the canals where the alligators lived. Okay? Then more houses built up the next time we went down there, which was a few years later. And now, the same place where my grandparents' house sits, all the wall houses. But the majority of them are not cement block concrete and cement cast. Instead, they're all the newer materials. And when storms have hit, although they've been lucky, I shouldn't even say a word because the spot has hardly ever hit, but just south of them and just north of them, in the last several hurricanes, they've been hit every other night. One of the examples, you know, we're creatures of habit. And if we move there, oh, I used to live in a house like that up north, I'll bring one here instead of contrary to what you say when you get some place. And great, great bunches of contractors sold up the, you know, housing around it once. and people that, you know, feed the troops when they're not. That was allowing, they showed you frames, you know, the A-frame of the... It even held a square in press port, just went, sure, it had neat little regular... Well, again, one of the problems, as we pointed out, with us responding to the hurricanes here in the last 10 years for the Republic, the Winter War, the promo that's on our YouTube site, like a little... it's a little movieette kind of thing. The vehicle that you see there, it was rebuilt top to bottom, and it has... the tires that you see on it are run flats. And what was interesting is those tires on that truck, when they went down to the hurricane, what was it, late 90s, during the hurricane season, they went down to assist in several locations. It was part of what a lot of the militians were doing. Clearly, the truck tires on that vehicle sounded like they had studded tires because with the building material coming off the roof, automatically it spread all recreation, but roofing nails were the greatest hazard to emergency and recovery vehicles and safety vehicles. A lot of the local ambulances and such weren't going out simply because, or at least they weren't going to certain locations until streets were cleared because if they were to test roads, chances are they'd make it about three to four feet before they'd be losing air. Literally, I mean, we're talking pulling thousands of nails out of the, and that's not an exaggeration. They literally picked them up to the point where, by what the driver said towards the end, of course they didn't care because of the very tires that were chosen and how the tires are set up. uh... but the interesting thing is that literally was almost all coding of metal because the nails were of course progressively being picked up and driven you couldn't stop it if you're going to go into areas that work you know we had not been fully recovered yet we're going for assisting people tires were instantly intentionally built to deal with that so just an example for those you're not thinking about it remember once you get it with uh... high winds i don't care for storadoes in the midwest or if it's down south One of the things you're going to run to is that conventional shingling and roofing has been used everywhere and that means sizes of roofing nails are what do you think the roads got a magnet under or something? Just drive on the grass. Yeah, you won't see it, but you will see it here as much for the mush underneath the grass, but guess what? Just as many nails and just as much of a hazard. I got to stand down Mark. Thank you very much. You guys WTP RN 512646. 1984. Thank you Mark. Thank you Don. We'll be back in about three minutes here. WTPR and We The People Radio Network and the Stenzel Report. It's Friday. Yep, I do gotta go. Are gasoline a diesel vehicle? Eating away your personal business finances? Stupid question, right? Were there was a simple, low-cost and safe engine add-on that allowed your car, SUV, pickup or even your semi to use water as a fuel? Yes, I said water. We have the answer. Go to hydrofreedom.com now to find out how you can boost your vehicle's gas mount by 30, 50 or even 70% or more using water and gasoline together. An easy to assemble add-on produces H.H.O., a combination of hydrogen and oxygen, often called ground gas. And the only byproduct created is good old water. 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I mean, they were trying to push to ban lead. They're gonna ban lead and copper from bullets. And they were saying that, oh, the only thing you're gonna be able to use is aluminum. We started to laugh our hind end off because having worked with aircraft aluminum, especially hard aircraft aluminum rod, we milled out a dark type system. And then what we did is we cast an aluminum Sabo. Guys, we got that thing pumping. And we did it out of 30 caliber, we did it with 45-70, we did it with 38 special, we did it with 357, and we kind of started spreading the word back in the day. We gave all the information out all over the country, said, yeah, go ahead, ban lead and copper and watch and see what happens. We'll bring the velocities up and we'll have such a, we'll conform to the regulations and we'll have one hell of an armor penetrator. Which is true, we still do, because we haven't lost the technology. But that's just giving an idea. When they change or think they're going to be sly about the specifications, guys, remember, if you understand metallurgy, there are some fascinating things you can do with polymers and shelf metals, especially if there's something that the bad guys require. No problem, we'll do that. So again, discarding Sable with an improvised dart slash bullet mimic, although standard bullets will seat in these cups without any problem. Originally, we intended to use the standard 55 grain Sierra Boat tail or the spitzer bullets for the .223 556M16 round, or from it normally. Of course, you could buy bullets in the bags, 5000 to a bag at the time. But as those become even more valuable, improvising and creating your own projectiles is the next way to go. Okay, think about it. 50 caliber shooters have been doing this for quite some time. To A, bring up the accuracy and B, reduce wear and tear on the barrels, which is critical. Now we have Billy from Georgia who's been waiting so patiently there. Billy, jump in there please. Oh okay Billy, I'll tell you what, please give us a ring again to forgive you for that. We'll bring you right up as soon as you call in. Another thing, Maine Military, just heard their ad on our advertisement block. Guys hear this? What that is, is one of the DPM camouflage chem suit sets. Now I'm going to warn you again, these are a wonderful camo set. uh... there even better than expected of the things are good and tight the uh... vacuum seal is perfect they have not been compromised they're very clean whoever was throwing these did a good job of maintaining them and that's critical now main military has these for eleven ninety nine okay i know twelve dollars upset okay was late one night but twelve dollars a set is what it comes down to six and top six about him uh... the guys uh... there sold all frank i've got uh... the information we sold the original batch for six dollars a uh... set because that's what he had uh... priced on them and for quite some time we've got all of them okay so he had to replace them now there was only one place in the u.s. where you get a good quality bought everything you have left there aren't any more from that source and these are indeed the dpm mark four camouflage chem suits They are in excellent, excellent condition. And I will tell you again, there are size specs on the envelopes themselves. You can request a specific size if it's available. He will tell you probably that the average size is a medium, which is really not bad because remember, chem suits are oversized. They're designed to go over equipment, okay? So chem suits make and are part of the cold weather kit that the British were using for quite some time. uh... we did the same thing we used to steal uh... kim suits uh... and use them for doing maintenance whole weather operations uh... in the military because uh... they're lightweight you can move with them more but they'll keep you very warm remember their sandwich breeding system so when you sweat they work nicely especially when you're wrenching on a truck and you're underneath it it's sub-zero weather outside you put your little canvas shields up in this one under there when you can actually move your arms so the kim suits do serve more than one purpose but They are priceless in that we're looking at a technology that we couldn't just go out and make off the shelf. They're ready to go. They're not compromised. It is very obvious when you see what I'm talking about. It's like basically they're sealed up and they're crunched just like the old LRRP Long Ranger countessons patrol rations, except they're twice the width. Okay. Same length. Looks just like them on the outside, but they're again DPM camouflage, both the smock and the pants that come as a set. They're separately bagged. These go right into your backpack and they stay with you or they go into your, depending on which bag you're carrying. If you have one of the NATO type bags, they're designed to actually carry both the chem suit and your gas mask. Sometimes that's a little cumbersome. We take a lot of those bags and we convert them over for first aid and medical bags and then use the standard gas mask bag and carry the chem suit in our kit, top of the web gear, top of the backpack where it belongs. So it's quick and easy to access. For $12 a set, you can give them a call at 207-924-5258. 207-9258. One more time. 207-9245. And Maine has them on the on the shelf. They back ordered a bunch when they sold out the first wave. All of you have been getting the follow ups. They informed everybody of the price change. Still an excellent buy and I highly recommend them because a lot of you haven't them yet. of the chems suit, there's a solution for you. And beautiful condition. Also, another thing that they have are strike anywhere matches. Maine military has both strike anywhere matches and lifeboat matches. Used to be, you could go to the hardware and find those, but fewer and fewer hardware is progressively we're carrying them. And as to the point now where strike anywhere has become very difficult to access. Well, Maine military's got them too, so you give them a ring, find out what all is still on the shelf. and you can access those. We're going to go over a couple of their items through the week, probably next week right now, but the chem suits are something I really, really wanted you to take care of. They do have gas masks, of course. Another thing that they have are the adapters. For those of you who bought the standard finished gas mask, which are a copy of the M9, they take the 60 millimeter old NATO filter thread. However, There is a Canadian adapter that was designed to go from 60 millimeter down to 40 millimeter for the new filters, the new NATO standard. Guess what? They will fit on your finished mask and they'll work of course on your Dutch, your British, your German, or your American masks to include the M9 and the British resuscitators. So this gives you an adapter so that you can A, continue to use the filters. If you were lucky, you got a bunch of the peanut can filters when we mentioned them. If not, You can still get the NATO cans, but what you need to do is go to Maine military and get hold of the adapters to go from one to the other. This is critical. These are little things that otherwise guys, we don't, they can nickel and dime you to death. 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I want to say thanks to all of our friends that came in to visit. It's busier at different points, progressively. It slows down. It was a really hot weekend. not a scorcher as in record but it was a warm weekend, didn't get any rain, blue skies, beautiful day, couldn't ask for a more perfect day and lots of people attended. Well if you want to see how the event went, go to YouTube and then punch in for a search Liberty Tree Radio. When you go to our LTR page, our Liberty Tree Radio page, you're going to see the latest video posted first and that's the event. You check that out, take the time to watch it, and if you can, give us a rating. Hey, five stars, be nice. We really like that. But again, if you can't do it, we understand that some people may not want to log in. But the point is that the info is there and you can see some of what we've been talking about to include the moped bikes. We have two versions there. One is the traditional and it comes out of the box. The done by Sergeant Dan up here in Michigan. He's one of the militia engineers. And what he did is he made an Indian. Now the neat thing is people were looking at that and they wanted to know where he got it. Well of course he explains he. And then what was funny from all these guys who were running steam engines and electric engines and gasoline engines, the first question they asked guys was, well how many years did it take to build it? And everybody kind of chuckled because it's like, well, no, it didn't take years. He's pretty creative and he stayed focused and using a standard bike frame. The whole little, you'll see it driving around in the video. It's got a black frame. It has a long tubular oval gas tank that runs horizontal. Okay. Very, very cool. The thing is a good reproduction of a 1910. He can make more. So we're going to talk more about that and we're going to get Sergeant Dan up here with us progressively this next week. tell everybody about how he did it and we do have video that's going to be coming up on YouTube eventually with an instructional course by Sergeant Dan where he covers the base of the bicycle itself, version system and how he's done many many of them and in fact I think he at the Antique meet so it was a great event. Anyway just give you an idea there, we have Spike in Indiana who's been waiting here and then we have Louis from Texas. Spike from Indiana jump in there please. How you doing? about the safe formed on reload I did watch your video but you were talking about the same and I was wondering how that fits in there do you just put that in where you would put side of the save-o first? That's correct now for the longest time nobody was really offering a lining an alignment tool J&D offers an alignment tool that they sell that you put right into your die you would press the bullet into place, it's sitting in the cup that has an assembly, both the projectile and the save-o, and then those are loaded in place of a regular bullet. I see. It's that simple. And again, you can seat it at different depths. Now, I will point out, for instance, most of the rifles, you would seat it at the standard point where they have like a cantilever line. You don't have a cantilever indentation, but there is a little cast line there that typically everybody uses as the standard little fingers that make up their life like little the not wearing the barrel down. The bullet doesn't make contact with anything. Upon leaving the barrel, the individual pedals of the SABO are pushed back uniformly and basically like a little retro, like an umbrella, they basically slow the SABO down and it releases and separates from the projectile without distorting its path. Very simple. Yes, 30 calibers, so they'll work in 7.62 by 39. They'll work in 308. They'll work in, by the way, they'll work in 7.5 French. They will work in 7.5 Swahili. All these calibers we have that are kind of oddballs for projectiles, because some have larger and smaller dimensions. But they'd work in, let's see, probably would work comfortably in 7.7 or they'd probably work in 7.7 JAP and they'd also work in 303 Brit. What happened is years ago a guy invented these things, a wildcatter did, and Remington made what they called the accelerator load. And they made it in 30 out of 6, and they made it in 308. And it's in the yellow and red box. I'm just correction, correction. It's in the yellow and green box. The preferred load, very desirable. This stuff is hot coming out the tube. uh... remington loaded them down a little bit from the original wildcat load which is typical of remington people don't pay attention that back in the eighties they started to down load their calipers so you get a you know you don't you're not a max loads are even near max loads with the remington load uh... it even then with the sable you're not your pressures are not going to be that extreme one cool thing if you remember in the video we showed you one of the first place is where we use this sable system was with the uh... 7.62x25mm Tokarev pistol and the three caliber Sabels work. However, one of the things you always have to be careful of with magazine fed weapons, based on the tip of the bullet must be a specific dimension obviously for the bullet to fit in the magazine well. So what we did is we had to use a 50 grain spear spitzer based bullet in order for it to fit. However, the cool thing is that still we were pushing with a 50 grain Spitzer bullet coming out of a standard Tokarev a T33 or out of a broom handle Mauser We were pushing about 2,700 feet per second with a five inch barrel I was gonna say what that means is basically what you're looking at is you have Rifle velocities out of a handgun pretty cool now would that do the same thing for that? What it yes, he pushes the 30 out of 6 with a 55 grains here a boat tail projectile You're looking at 43 on the low end. Well, you can drop it as low as you want. But let's say average load, with an average load, depending on powder, type of powder, etc. You're looking at 4300 feet per second to 4800 feet per second. The reason I asked is he's wanting to trade me a, you know, he said you'd have to put it together. I said sure. Oh, right. Absolutely. Congratulations. Hopefully that'll come through. But calling in yesterday is I would listen to Alex for Lynn, you know, all what he's talking about between him and Alex is that he's, I don't argue about stuff that he can't prove that, and you know, met you yesterday on his show today. I heard you complimenting Alex last week on your show. And I think what this guy is doing is he's listening to the both of you compliment each other. And he's going, Hey, wait a minute. These guys aren't fighting each other. And one of the, that's one of the things I'm going to stress here. And you know, I've talked about this a thousand times, a thousand, thousand times. We are so close to what is the actual battle that everybody has been preparing for that there is no time for anything other than putting rounds down range against our enemy. Okay, everybody better be focused. Whatever, whatever problems that may have even occurred in the past are so irrelevant because well as that old Klingon saying goes, fights with a friend in a burning house. Okay. Let's argue over who's gonna hold the fire extinguisher. No, you can. No, I can. How about we have two fire extinguishers and everybody fight the fire? What do you think? Grab a bucket of water and let's get to work. I don't think Alex is quite understood, but I don't think that you're gonna, you know, jump in there and say stuff. Let him say what he's gonna say, get him off the air. You're not here to argue. And for somebody to call up on somebody else's talk show and complain about another host, that's just, I have no, that's no taste and I have no respect for the guy. Okay, well I understand. I think it was anything else, because you don't have to go over here. Anything else? No, if you go right ahead, get on with the show. Thanks for talking to me and God bless you and the Republic. Oh, Ross. Take the trade. We'll be back in three minutes. Bye. Do you the plaintiff or defendant in a lawsuit? Win your case without an attorney with Juris Dictionary. 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We're having a lot of fun to a degree, but also it's a very serious world out there guys. However, we're going to laugh at the enemy and we're going to stay squared away, stay focused on the problem. We're going to dump rounds downrange until the bad guys are gone. That's how it's going to work. Now we have a whole bunch of other things going on, but before we go any farther, we do have Louie in Texas and he's been so patient too. Louie, jump in there please. How are you sir? Very good. But I want to continue, if I might, what I had brought to your attention last week and give you an update. We were talking about, well, in particular, the Constitution Party and somewhat the Libertarian Party, the hardcores who would follow your prescription of, look, it's getting close and we really got to prepare. But they recognize that preparedness in your house by yourself. with some pea shooters and some bullets just might not cut it and they are attempting to get a hold of police departments by electing city council governments in small towns where they know they can control the ballot box and not be rigged. Then once controlling a majority of a city council you hire a police chief, a judge, and a city attorney all at once so you have the whole circle, little city, circle for protection. And now, let's tie it to the previous caller from Indiana where he's talking about getting all these fancy arms. I mean, you're policed, you can just go buy them. Anything you've got of bullets on getting stopped in the name of Homeland Security and anybody who's got a badge, I'm not going through Check Point Charlie, have a nice day. And we build a well-regulated militia in spite of what the liberals will attempt to try and stop us from doing. both ways. I want him to continue to pick up arms and I will too, promote that wherever he can. But again, what we're also saying, and we totally agree with supporting our local efforts, in fact I would say this, there are still places where people can run on the independent ticket, where they can still file because not all the country is uniform in this. And we've just only gone into the primaries. If you're an independent, you still in some cases can file, or you could be any party you want. But, you know, the independent usually those slots are open. The Constitution Party, Libertarian Party, you've got the Tish Party, Tish Amendment Party here in Michigan, taxpayers. There's a number of different ones. They've all been very successful, especially with local activities. Data's another solution. So we need to keep, we need to continue with that because we're looking for good governance. But we're going to assume the bad guys aren't going to be listening after a while. These city elections are not coming up in this November election. These are usually off-year elections or done in the springtime in Texas. They're all done in the springtime and every year. They continue. I don't know what's going on the rest of the country, but that's the way the little cities, all the cities, no matter what size, are elected here. And following up with a report to you that the gentleman who was running the Ellis County party, who was trying to organize the whole state party to get you to come down and train potential police chiefs is going further and further with his program. On November 11th, he's having a meeting, his county party, where they're ironing out all the details of how it's going to work in the county. And then he's going to be handling a regional meeting, strategize. Go ahead and back. Now again, dates, times, and places. And what other websites are connected with that, or what other links? Are there any? OK, yes, sir. I think the easiest way to do this is because I protect everybody's privacy. lcharles14 at yahoo.com and then I will send out, you know, whatever they're interested, I'll send out all the information. lcharles14 at yahoo.com and my phone number is 214-230-2187. I'll hook you up with Mr. Bill Horning because he works two jobs and he's, you know, he'll get to it. But most important, Again, this meeting coming up in Ellis County, it's down in Waksa Hachi if you happen to be anyone near the DFW area. It's not that far away. And me and email, and I'll try to send you information at that liberty at provide.net email address you announced last week, but I'm not getting any response. I'm hoping you're receiving all this information. Oh yes, no, no, the biggest problem we've had is being able to catch up because right now we're just a little behind. We had this expo this weekend, that kind of, you know, it took a chunk of time out, but it was critical. So we'll be catching up and I'll be getting back with you probably tonight if everything goes well. All right, and if you get back to me, then I need to hook you up directly with Mr. Horning because I think there's some details he needs to work out with you as far as travel arrangements concerned and some of the things that he'd like to accomplish. while you're here. Exactly. That's good. We'll work out the details and everything's squared away. It's purely a matter of making the timetable fit and I don't see a problem with that. With regard to the activities, there's a lot of people down that way that I'm sure will be able to provide support in different ways and would be interested in the meetings. So we've got to get them on the line too. In fact, he's been in charge. a volunteer, if you will, to be in charge of the gun show. A big gun show is coming up, I think, at Fort Worth. And possibly one in Mesquite. He's going to be in charge of the Constitution Party table, and he needs help, and they're going to be promoting this deputizing plan. So the more people that come here, and he finds the more people will be able to get the training that you're going to provide when you come down here. Yeah, in fact, we have other instructors that may be coming along or in the area that we're going to move in that direction. Alfie Omega is probably listening right now. He's going, oh, I heard that. We have people who would like to, I'm sure, participate or at least help them sit in on certain works. There's new classes that we're working on too. Mark, any time you want to give me a call, I'm at this 24-7, I can fill you in some more details that I don't think at this point in time is ready to go over the air. That sounds good, and I'll give you a ring later tonight, probably. Okay, sir. Appreciate that. And again, for all of you listening, this event is up and coming. Again, it's pending for the moment, but it's highly probable. Let's put it this way. All we're going to do is make sure we get all the I's down and all the T's crossed. We have Mo from Oregon next. Mo, jump in there. I would like to make a comment on McCain and Sarah if it's possible. Can I make a... First of all, SARA was mayor for a city, 10,000 people in Alaska. When the governor, the ex-governor of Alaska was very craftman, and anybody who runs against him automatically would want to be a governor of Alaska. Then, Mike Kepetra, former president of United States. Does that make sense? what you're saying. In fact, it's significant that I think their logic is, well, he would catch up when the time comes, but here's the problem. He's already sitting in government. He should know the difference, especially since our area of interest has been the Middle East quite heavily, well, at least for the last five years. You think by now that everybody should have all of the both religious Exactly, and still he calls Czechoslovakia. I mean, we know that Czech Republic and Slovakia Republic already formed about 10 years ago. And still he doesn't know that these two countries are two countries more Czechoslovakia anymore. He referred it as the Czechoslovakia. What I mean, if he compares it as the USA, I mean, personally, we all need to live the United States. I understand. I'm all anything else you can hang out if you want. Sure, if you want to. Sure. You stay right there. We got a few other callers stacked up. This is the intel report. We're at the top of the first hour. As always, God bless the Republic. Death of the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We're on the march. Bix Bennet's chasing down the road. Kick him in the slats. And swim halfway back to the spiders. But you're not going to go to Czechoslovakia because it hasn't existed for quite some time. You can ask both the parties and split their respective ways. Okay guys, stay where you are, Mo you stay where you are, George, we got him lined up and there's a few others. We'll be back in about six minutes here on We the People Radio Network. Hoorah! On September 1st, Vote Rescue and our coalition Texans for Real Elections conducted an exit poll at the Texas straw poll in Fort Worth. With almost a 25% respondent rate, we found a discrepancy in one candidate's results, Ron Pauls. We are planning exit polls for the primary and presidential elections in 2008. This is a fun and exciting process in exercising our rights as citizens. Join us as a volunteer with Vote Rescue to monitor those elections and remind the government that elections belong to the people. Become a part of the growing movement to restore elections. to the citizens with hand-counted paper ballots. We are winning. 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