Live 365. You've done yourself a good favor. You've done the lifetime of that gun a good favor. And by the way, the barrel you took off, you know it will fit that receiver. Yes. And you already know how it shoots. So again, grease it up. Now, another real quick thing, just as an explanation of what we're talking about. For instance, you notice like AK-47, G3 kits that are coming in, they're minus the barrel, which the critical parts, most of the critical parts are still there, but the barrels themselves have been cut off. I mean cut sections cut out of them, that way the barrels are inactive. Even the chunks that you get from a kit like that save them. If you don't want them, then just put them in a box for the moment, we'll give you a point of contact, a place where you can start sending stuff like that. Why? Because down the road, that little barrel section can make something. Okay? Again, improvise, adapt, overcome. Now, I'll give you an example of this. The Russians had basically one barrel twist for everything. Does everybody understand that? And give an example. You notice that pre-World War II was the same thing. All Russian equipment had one caliber, caliber 30. Example, Moissan they got, 7.62x54R. That was a full length barrel, a standard model 91. They would make a barrel for that, but if there was a flaw or a failure or a tool chip or whatever, the barrel was not thrown out. What did they do? They sent it to line B where they made submachine gun barrels for the Peppiish. Well, Dom, they could make three Peppiish barrels out of one Moisin barrel. Depending on where the failure was, yeah. That's right. Now, if that happened, it turned out that one of the three barrels that they made or let's say like you said there was enough of a flaw that they couldn't use it for a peppish barrel. All of those that were a reject from the peppish line went over to the pistol line to make room handle Mauser or Tokarev pistol barrels. And they could get about one to two barrels depending on whatever the flaw was. out of each of the submachine gun cut barrels or the heavily damaged moison nagat barrels. Look at the redundancy there. Built in, built in, failure, beat the failure. Failure beat the failure. Nothing was laid to waste and any scrap metal was no scrap metal at all as we know. It went back in the kills. It got melted back down and it was made into other barrels. See how that works? Again, there were standards that were maintained, but the Russians, crude but effective as they say, they were able to put the weapons out. That doesn't mean they're the high quality of troops. The Germans beat them hands down, infantry to infantry constantly. The problem was mass. Again, quality of the infantry was challenged on a regular basis, along with mismanagement to a degree as we know with certain decisions made, and the rest is history. But otherwise from both sides German and the Russian a lot of innovative features were developed that they want us all to forget about I've talked about this with regard to libraries You need to build up your own libraries and newer in books is not necessarily better Many older texts give you technical journal information that's critical to developing your own arms The VG assault rifle families the VG weapons made at the end of World War two for the Germans were made in beer can plants guys Cost was about three to five dollars per rifle and they could match the performance of the AK or the AR-15 Point is it didn't cost you a hundred and sixty dollars per rifle. It cost you five dollars per rifle Hey, wait a minute That means you can have a lot more rifles for the same dollar amount Don. That kind of was like a Grease gun kind of looking gun Yeah, you had a body it used the assault rifle magazine while the mp44 But otherwise, a beaver board stock like the other families of light rifles that they had built, there were several different models, Walther and Mauser and whatever. And otherwise, all sheet metal stampings. And it was pinned together so it could not be taken apart. Now think about that. Now, Aberdeen Proving Ground, they took all of the technology for those plants over to the United States. Well, we captured them at the end of the war. We tested both of those designs. In Aberdeen Proving Ground, understand that if we captured a factory line, they would actually set all the tooling and machinery up and make whatever they wanted to test. They did this with the VG rifles. The testing showed that they were far more durable than originally estimated and then they were made to disappear. Now why would that be? Well, how can you sell a very expensive firearm, let's put it this way, less expensive weapons that were in other categories. When here you are producing a fast production, easily manufactured firearm, cost efficient using standard magazines already produced. Now let me give you a hint, instead of the MP44 mag, why not build it with the AR15 mag as the base? There you go. Or the AK-47 because there are lots of AK-47s out there and lots of mags, lots of ammo. See how that works? In other words, the only significant change would be to design the magazine well and the bolt face to meet the need of the magazine that is most commonly available and the ammunition that goes in it. That is the premise. infamous gun and it goes both ways as far as it was a lot like the m-16 early teething problems of its day was the uh... all the gun you see with winston churchill with his he a bowler had on and you see winston churchill hold the tommy gun you know a thompson look like a gangster it does i'm still meaning to get you that picture so you can put it up on the web but uh... you know there was a friction device in there. That gun was a blowback gun regulated in timing by what was known as the H-Block. And as the H-Block wore, funny things would happen to that gun. But if you look at how simple it was, it was a really nice Thompson. And then it was just contracted across the nation. Olympic Arms, you can find still a number of, you know, all of those guns that look like Tommy guns ain't gonna say Thompson on them, don't you know there? I can't tell you what it costs to build one. I could go over here and maybe find it before the end of the hour, but I've told you I'd do some other things before the end of the hour. Right. In fact, we've got to be getting close to break here, I think. Oh, we're past breaks. We're probably going to hear the music in a minute. And when we do... Did I hear the music? Oh, no, I didn't hear the music yet, but we're going to hear the music because we're going to go to break here, I think, in a minute. And then we'll have all the numbers for you. Want to make sure that you get your pen and paper ready. Uh, so you understand... There we go. I hear it. Now I hear the pipe slot. We'll be back in about four minutes here on Liberty Tree Radio. I have the pipes in them. I want to listen to them more and more. And again, it's been said, I think it's a Don original, you know, the pipes. They'll warm the blood of them that loves them, curdle the blood of them. We will be moving, moving, I say, forward with all the instruments at our disposal from our artillery to long range direct fire. to the music that we have accumulated which of course much of it done by our fellow patriots because every one of our weapons must be brought to bear when the time comes and music inspires guys. That's all there is to it. I mean especially it's like you sit there and go wow that is cool. And that's again I want to say thank you to one of Ed's friends for having sent or the original video it actually was kind of cool but it has to do with something a little different. from what we do. There are a lot of young men and women out there that are very creative and have come up with some really neat stuff digging around and working in certain venues and areas. We appreciate any help or anything that is sent our way from all those different directions and we use it accordingly. Don't forget, we didn't mention this again so far today except in the morning. I'm Go to that, click and take you right to our YouTube page, which is Liberty Tree Radio. The first video up is what we were doing this last weekend. Pretty busy too. A lot of work to get all the stuff done that was put in there. It's a lot of manual labor. A lot of industrial work needs to be done. The cool thing is you get a chance to see the electric cars, some of the other steam technology, the gas engines that look like steam technology, and a lot of other stuff to include. The Moped bike, which is really fun because a lot of people got a chance to drive them and now own them, which is a plus plus two. That's, as they say in 1984, double plus good. So anyway, go to YouTube if all fails. Then go punch in for a search, Liberty Tree. and And well let's do it like this because we've had both of these guys on the air over the years you know anybody that really it goes back in shooting and those names paid attention to who did what will recognize the name uh... gail mcmillan upon the rock mcmillan runs uh... those rifle company you guys you've seen these guns fifty calibers built there run into the championships up to first place sometimes over the years and you can see them in first place at other places around the nation in 50 caliber shoots and you can see this I'm not just flapping my jaw here because equipment is documented at every shoot you fill out a little equipment form what you're shooting what receiver who barreled the gun or if it's a box gun or whatnot you know a box gun like an AR-50 or one of Dave's guns you know from spider fire something you would purchase ready to shoot you know you can shoot a barrel out you can shoot a barrel out in your Remington 700 you can shoot a barrel out in your 1911 until it's no longer accurate now what we're trying to help you not to do here is to end up with a gun that doesn't shoot accurate anymore What you want to do if you've kind of got your wish list full and you go over and you check things twice and you say, man, I better upgrade here and oh, I'm going to do that next week and you know, look at your long gun and think of in particular the gun you want to shoot a good distance with because this is where a great portion of accuracy comes from, a really good barrel. and someone knowing to do what the difference between a really good and doing really good with just a good barrel. Okay, by the time it gets down to, well, it's rattling down there, there's nothing it can index on, no matter how good you are, you're going to have to close the distance to the point of, well, this gun is no longer effective for what it was designed for. Now, the way to get around that is to rebarrow your gun now and have them return your old barrel. And now you've got a fresh barrel on your gun, break it in. We've talked about that many times. You know, we could do the abbreviated. Shoot a bullet, clean it. Shoot a bullet 10 times. Clean it. Shoot two bullets 10 times. Cleaning it between each two. Do that up to three and four and even five and six. And all of a sudden you realize, wow, the gun's coming clean really quick now. That time you've burnished in the barrel, if it takes you out to 10 sets of 10. The gun comes clean really quick now. that's one of the indicators that says, yeah, I've pretty much burnished in the barrel. Now, you've created a whole lot of fire formed cases in that time frame too, haven't you? And if you have the ability, you've also created kind of a drop chart for your gun too, haven't you? By shooting and moving back. So see you're multi-casking there, aren't you? With your new barrel. Skip used to talk about K&P guns. If you're talking about 50s, K&P guns is a company, you might wanna have them put a barrel on your 50 because K&P guns has barreled a number and built a number of actions and complete whole guns that have shot their way to first place over the years. K&P guns can be reached there in Raton there, New Mexico, at 505-1311. Again, 505-451311. One more time on the fast. 4 4 5 1 3 1 1 K&P Gun Company. We're going to have to get somebody up from them, but we've had Rock... We've had Rock McMillan on and you can reach McBrow's Rifle Company at 6 2 3 5 8 2 3 7 1 3 Again Rock McMillan at McBrow's Rifle Company 2 3 5 8 2 These guys, you know, I can talk just as much as K&P Barrels. Rock has built some guns that have shot their way, clawed their way to the top, and won championships over the years. One more time for McBrow's Rifle Company. Just like it sounds, guys, McBrow's, well, company, they're there in Phoenix, Arizona at 623-582-3713. Now right down the road you guys there's Robar Industries and we've had Robbie himself and we've had his general manager of the floor up talking about what they'll do for your guns as far as finish and they'll build you guns too and they'll rebarrow your gun. Now again Robbie is becoming more and more known for finishing and even camouflaging and putting that bullet proof You know nothing is really bulletproof is it finish on your gun, but you know it's a good word to use in that description You can reach Robar Industries at 623-581-2648 again 23-581-2648 any of the aforementioned companies will rebarrow your 50 will rebarrow your Remington 700 if you want to give them the money they'll rebarrow your SKS they'll rebarrow your most of the got you guys if you want in fact you know there's been an old trick down through the years you know a lot more about this than I do mark but a lot of people have taken the all the German gun the and up girl size over the years or the Calabri thereof you know what I mean Oh, the K98 Mausers inside. Yeah, Mausers, yeah. People that built Mauser actions up even to .50 caliber, you guys, are done a knockoff scaled up to .50 caliber. In fact, several of them, remember the first 50s, were actually, even today, there were a couple of... The German anti-tank guns. Yeah, basically. They just reinvented the wheel and built a big old Mauser action. Beautiful rifles, and they have the compensators on them. Originally, you know what's serious? It's fascinating. originally they didn't yeah but they were heavy enough almost to hold the recoil yeah imagine going ouch ouch ouch ouch nice throttle oh this is not so good you shoot it a few times my shoulder is looking pretty bad okay I think it's bruised Well, and dislocated. Yeah, the compensators dealt with that real quick. In fact, all the Russians made 50s during the war. Remember, we've referred to this many times. World War II, and they were single-shot. They were crewed. They were effective. And, of course, they had a muzzle compensator on them for that reason, so that they could at least hit what they were doing. In other words, the guys wanted to pull the trigger as long as he's not going to get boxed. So that was the whole idea, that the compensator made a big difference in whether or not you'd want to pull the trigger and actually make the effort to aim rather than flinch and jerk, as they say. We don't want that. Well, it was a rumor. A lot of people will tell you that owner 50 and whatnot, not everyone, but some of them will tell you, well, you pull a trigger on that gun, it moves backwards a foot. Well, maybe without the, you know, muscle break on it. I recount the story of walking down the line at one of the championships. I think this was in 2002, Mark. And this was was just during warm ups and the day before any record shooting happened. And I'm walking down the line and I pass this one old timer and he was just bringing his gun up to his shoulder and leaning over to shoot on the bench and bringing the gun up to his shoulder and I just walked by and I hear BAM! OH! And I turn around and a number of people around looked at him. He was one of the well known people there. He'd been there for years. Everybody knew his name and he says, DANG! I forgot to put my muzzle brake on. And don't... a 50 caliber, his gun was a medium gun so it weighed less than 50 pounds and no muzzle brake on it. That had to be like Muhammad Ali hitting you in the shoulder. That's right. Most people ain't going to go three rounds. Thank God for muzzle brake. One of our friends of the 20 millimeter, even though it has a compensator on it, 20 millimeter Lottie, he said, well, I figured I'd try three rounds or four rounds, what they call rapid fire. He put the weapon to his shoulder, he was properly postured, and he pulled the trigger, and it works, it's a long action. So boom, boom, and boom. He said for a second he stopped and he looked at the rifle and he laid it down, or calmly of the bipod in place, of course, and leaned back away from it and very carefully got up and then went over and sat down under the tree for a while. Going to need a bigger Pacmar. Yeah, exactly. So, again, once it's hooked up to one of our vehicles, which is what most of them are now, that's not a problem because the vehicle absorbs all that energy, okay, with the bracket mounts the way they're set up. That's not a problem. And you can cradle them with a little bit of a recoil shock absorber system built into the cradle too. So, by the time you're done, you push that energy out along a very, very deep slope where it's not going to be that sharp, you know, felt recoil and report. with regard to where it's going to the shoulder. That makes a big difference. But again, it depends on what it is you're using and how you're applying the weapon. The 50s, all very comfortable. Basic rule is this, follow the instructions. Oh yes. Most common mistake, I'm going to cut corners. Yep, okay, you only do that once. I watched the guy one time, Mark, he'd shot a Barrett, one of Ronnie's M82s a number of times, and didn't like the recoil. We were shooting prone. and he thought well I'll just hold it an inch off my shoulder. Oh boy. And yeah he pulled the trigger that time and you know the next time he bellied up to the bar he shot the gun again I give him that much but the next time it was right on he never did that again. That gives you plenty of trail before it sucks ya. Yeah but shooting Ronnie's gun is no worse than shooting a 12 gauge with like 3 inch loads in it. No worse at all. But some of the guns like a I appreciate some of the letters I've gotten on the subject for people who have been listening when we've had Dave up. So, again, real quick on that, we should give out Spider Firearms number while we're thinking about it too. Cool. So, let me do that real quick here, if I can find the right card. Sometimes I'm ready and sometimes I'm not. And here it is, Weapons Wednesday, shame on Mark. Well, let me look here and I've got it right here, Spider Firearms. And I'll tell you what, do me a favor, give Dave a call tomorrow and ask him. If you have any questions, we're going to have him up. We're going to do a series of question and answer, you know, things with the 50. What he wants to do is introduce the questions or be ready to call in and talk to him because he is more than happy to adjust or engineer the weapon to fit your needs. This is a critical issue. Ergonomics, in this case when you have a true gunsmith or a slush manufacturer who can build what you need as you need it, then all of a sudden you have a different world there, guys. You don't have to make do. One of the considerations is that some of you may have former injuries, military or just civilian injuries from car accidents or whatever. You may need to have the weapon adjusted or engineered in a certain way to fit your body's needs. I asked Dave, I was talking about that because I had questions about that in letters that had been sent here. He said, Hell yeah, we've done that before and we can do it again. So, don't think that there is limitation because you may have, you know, example is injury to the hand or the wrist or maybe where there has been fusion that has taken place because you have had everything locked in. You still have some articulation but there needs to be a change for instance in the grip. That can be overcome and a grip can be built to suit your needs. Keep that in mind. Especially now that we have all these plumbers and plastics that can be worked with. Literally, the grip folded to your very hand. Yep, much like a diver's regulator. Yeah, so think about that, guys. That makes such a big difference. That number is 407-957-3617. Again, 407-957-3617. Spy firearms. 407-957-3617. And the website is www.ferret50.com. Go to the site, check them out. Remember this drops on AR-15. Another thing about that, people are bringing up well, commit it to a certain rifle. Here's an idea guys. There are AR-15 lowers. Remember those all require paperwork if you're buying them brand new. But a lot of guys are buying them off the tables because somebody may not have liked that receiver for an AR. Well to commit it to a 50, especially when somebody is selling it off the table and it's cobbled. It's yanked. It's got dash to it. Who cares if it's going on a 50? You're not going to use the magazine well. Think about that. You are not going to use certain parts of the weapon simply because if you want to commit that punked out AR-15 lower receiver, you could actually build that up, make it look nice, paint it however you want, and adapt that to your spider firearm and you have no administrative work to worry about at all. Think about that. Wouldn't that be cool? Now again, $109,119 now will get you lower brand new. It may not be the model of Bushmaster you want for your AR, but it will work just fine for your Ferret 50. See how that is? So look around guys, or if you're going to upgrade, take that lesser receiver. You didn't like as much, but you said, well, I'm going to replace it with this receiver at such and such a time. You save up the money, guess what? You're halfway to a Ferret. Now you take that other receiver that you didn't want to use for your ARs because you've had a little problem here or there with some aspect of it or you just decided you want to upgrade to a different flavor. Take that other one, commit that to the ferret, cha-ching. That's half your expense and you've already got everything taken care of. All you've got to do is accumulate the little tidbit and trinket parts for the backup system, you know, the second system that you're putting together. And again, go to the gun shows, select and collect. That's what we do all the time. Select and collect. Find the goodies you need. Pull them off the tables and do it a piece here, a piece there, a card full of parts here, a can full of parts there, and you're done. And that makes such a big difference. Again, ferret50.com is the website. Don, that number again for Dave is. 957-3617. Oh my goodness, a voice out of nowhere. Actually, not out of nowhere, out of Louisiana. Thank you, Mike. I appreciate that. I confirmed that number. 407-957-3617. I'll tell you what, guys. We started late and we are late to leave. Uh oh. So I'll tell you what we are little past the top of the hour probably leave you right now I hear the music. I'll say thank you to Mike for being there again. We're all prepped. We know we're taking off and Well, I will put my mouth one more time good thing. 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