August 13, 2008
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Mark Koernke discussed weapons selection and preparedness on Weapons Wednesday, August 13, 2008. He covered light rifle options including the M1 carbine, SU-16, High Point carbines, SKS, AK-47, and various other firearms suitable for different budgets and missions. Koernke emphasized the importance of balanced team armament, ammunition storage, proper load-bearing equipment configuration, and realistic training. He also addressed airline security measures including proposed shock collar devices, pilot disarmament policies, and the importance of training with actual combat loads at upcoming tactical operations in Michigan and Kentucky.
- weapons wednesday
- m1 carbine
- su-16
- high point carbines
- aks
- bushmaster
- ar-15
- ammunition
- load bearing equipment
- tactical training
- michigan militia
- knob creek
- preparedness
- second amendment
- airline security
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I can't go to school with my daughter or help her with her classwork. Okay students, let's try her valve. But what I can do is get her everything on her school supply list at Walmart. They have really great prices on all her favorite brands. You should see how excited she is. Great job Sarah. Thank you, Mr. Channer. I'm pretty excited too. and Central. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com. We're also on pbn.4mg.com and live 365, then go to Liberty Tree Radio. You will also find us on AM and FM microstations, CB Bay stations, and Ultra Net technologies, both east and west of the Mississippi, along with Alaska. Well, Don, today is a special day. You're right, Mark. Today is August 13, and if you lean your ear toward the speaker, one goes in the chamber, the slide gets closed behind it, the well is full, and the perimeter is secure. It's Weapons Wednesday, you guys. Hoorah! Now we can offer equal opportunity, coercive force, and one way or another people, we're going to make sure that we get the job done. Reloading. Ammunition storage. The ability to have many magazines on hand, multiple weapons because you can't share a rifle. These are all things that we've covered on Weapons Wednesday and they're all things that are important. And top to bottom, no matter how we look at it, people, they're things you better get done and out of the way because obviously there's a lot of stuff in the wings that's waiting to happen that ain't going to be good in general. And so the bad guys who think they're going to catch us unawares, well, wrong. That's not how it works. A lot of Americans are arming up, but we're doing it. Now not everybody is doing it with a plan. Some people do it because, well, they heard you say something. Trust me on this. Every time that you speak up, especially when you're in a public area, there's always somebody catching part of what you're saying. Maybe not all of it. Notice I didn't say 100 percent, although government likes to think that way. At least they hear bits and pieces or you emphasize certain components and you make sure that they're out there where people hear what it is that you want to get out in the way of a message. Well, if they hear part of it, at least to a degree, they respond to what you've said. And we're seeing this around the country. We've seen this with ammunition. We've seen this with food and preparations in general. And that's why, as I said, we get people who got part of what they need to do done. They don't have everything done, but they got part of something done because they knew that they needed to do something. They just don't have the whole picture. Well, if you have the information on the shelf or if you have the working knowledge and you have somebody who asks questions, kind of make up a package to get them pushed in the right direction. And that includes just going top to bottom. You need a personal arm. You need the magazines or you need the stripper clips if it's a military arm for that weapon. If it's a commercial arm and it does take magazines, it gets spares for those. You need ammunition obviously for the weapon. You need a carrying system for the weapon system to support it, not for the rifle itself, but for the accoutrements and ammunition for the sake of convenience and efficient ergonomics. This is critical. You also need the maintenance and support technology on the shelf. You want to make sure you have that. Also, there are a wide range of weapons. You know there are some people that have one handgun or two handguns, maybe a shotgun, and then they bought a .50 caliber bolt-action rifle. Now, they have a firing rifle, but there are a few niches in between that you might want to have a little more support set up for to include a light rifle for those shots that don't require a half-inch gun. That's a little bit of overkill sometimes. It's a good thing you have that 50 and I'm going to say thank you for doing so but you got to remember it. It goes to me maybe because well I got so much money I better do this while I have the bucks and so somebody went out and bought a 1000 or 2000 or 3000 or 5000 or 7000 dollar rifle. We have seen this and that's not really a bad thing because they're actually they're looking at economically. They ain't going to get any cheaper availability is going to go down. resources are going to go down, do it while you can and then fill in the difference later so we understand that. But remember if you do have that 50 and you think that's all you need, well you're going to need to have something a little smaller to fill in the niche in between the 12 gauge and the .50 caliber half inch gun. Okay, doesn't mean you have a bad weapon system, but you have a very mission specific arm that's going to fit a certain niche. I will say this, you will be very valuable to anybody, any organization that you show up to assist when the time comes because they're going to be very happy to see you there with that .50 caliber in fire support mode. Know what I mean? I think it'd be something that everybody would be grateful to see show up at the door. What'd you bring, Hal? Well, I brought this clock. I got my other Glock and I got my 12 gauge, it's a Mosberg, okay. And I bought my 50 cal. 1.5 inch bet semi auto, why? Oh yeah, the crowd, everybody moves up, somebody brings them a cup of coffee and somebody else hands him a sandwich. Why don't you sit down here in my chair? See, now that's going to happen. And so you've got a good rifle, one way or another, but you've got to have a few things in between to make things work. Now it doesn't have to be the most expensive. One of the things we have touched on in the beginning of the day here on Weapons Wednesday is rifles such as the SU-16 made by Caltech or the high .9mm or .40 caliber carbines. Now, the reason I brought those up today is because those are American made firearms. Those are American arms. You can go to Caltech, you can search Caltech.com, or you can search Caltech in a Google is what you want to call Cal slash TEC, Caltech. with a K by the way. But you can also look for high point and do a search and find all kinds of information on the high point carbines and the high point pistols. Now there are other weapons that fit that niche. Not all of them are American made but they are nice firearms. Now you can go top end. I notice I don't mention the 7 in $12,000 or $3,000 rifles. Because if you've got that kind of money, there's nothing I need to tell you or that I'm going to do to influence you. Probably you're going to buy that $3,000 or $4,000 rifle anyway. But there's a lot of people thinking, oh my goodness, I think I need that $3,000 rifle. Well, not if the $3,000 is your total budget for arabans. You have to grow into that. With the 50K, you might have a single block purchase. That is one that you are going to have to face at a given point. If you want a 1.5 inch rifle, you are going to have to spend some dollars on that. But the average person is going to go out and spend what they can afford if they have to arm two or three people. They are in a quandary. We are trying to come up with a solution so that A, you are actually able to put more rounds down range as a team. and right off the get go, right off the bat, right from leaving the chocks if you're a runner, you're at least all going to be comparably armed and can offer reasonable fire support to each other to make the overall team work better, to be more effective and hopefully victorious if you do everything right. Now, there are a number of other light rifles. The SKS used to be the solution when it was $56 or when it was $63 or when it was $75. It's now up in the little under or about $200 range. Now of course if you look at the devaluation of the currency, Dom, that's still not far off where the S-CAS would be, which would be you. At the currency at half value, basically that's the equivalent to a $100 rifle. So that's not bad. And the S-CAS is a fine weapon system. It is very durable. But there are fewer and fewer of them available. The last batch that have come in are the Yugoslavians. There are some Romanians, but everything else is pretty well, you know, it's MIA. Everybody has brought them up. They are gone. It is that simple. So what we are looking at here is a situation where we have beyond the SKS we have the AK47. Again it fits a certain combination niche. A little heavier rifle. Magazines are a little heavier. But there is the M1 carbine. However, the M1 carbine when I used to recommend it was still only about a 175 to 300 dollar rifle. As we all know if you've been going to the gun shows, M1 carbines don't go for $300 anymore. So the thing is that a lot of the carbines are simply not going to be trading hands back and forth. However, there are virtually millions of M1 carbines out there in service in the Patriot effort. Literally. I mean there's no exaggeration of that. You've got US military carbines. You've got aftermarket receivers with 100% US military parts on it. You've got aftermarket factory rifles like the plain field carbine. Don't groan. I've carried a lot of plain fields. We've made them work just fine. Most plain fields are almost all US military parts. And here's the thing. If they want US military parts when you bought the rifle, all you do is change out the parts. Make it look like whatever you want to make it look like. But you can make it a full 100% short of the receiver US military carbine. The other category are the built in Halea, Florida, universal carbines. Usually a big groan there. Why? Universal when it first came out was doing what Plainfield did. They actually made a factory standard M1 carbine that was a knockoff of the standard military rifle. What happened is, parts became less available and they wanted to try and become innovative like everybody else was doing in the 60s. There was money available, they did it. Well, the solution worked to a degree, but there are always little tricky problems with the universals because mostly it's stamped parts. Now, they're not cheap stamped parts, they're very heavy gauge. And if anybody looks, the charging handle, the op rod, etc., there are certain things about it that are a little different. The basic silhouette is M1 curbing beyond a shadow of a doubt. So the later universals are not as popular, but even those don't go cheap anymore. Okay, now you might be lucky and find one. If you do, congratulations. Fantastic. Okay, stick with it. Again, I wouldn't think twice about putting it on the rack and using it as a handout rifle because I'll tell you what, a universal carbine is better than standing there with harsh language and a stick on your mouth. Stop. Okay? Stop. Please stop. Yeah. It doesn't work real well. It didn't work really well. In fact, they rolled right over and down what happened. So anyway, the carbine is another option. It fits that niche. Now here's the thing. If you have the M1 carbine, it is not obsolete by any stretch of the imagination. Don't let anybody goof you into that. The carbine, M1 carbine with 110 grain projectile in its standard military load, or even with a soft point, works fine. Now you're not going to punch for a whole lot of body armor. Ah, well, maybe not in its original load, but it still does a fine job of putting holes in things. However, we have a company called Corbon. Now, for those of you who have the M1 carbine, if you have the carbine, Corbon is making a new DPX bullet load that will punch through two inches more gelatin than the standard AR-15 round wheel with a similar DPX type bullet. Now, what this means is you get more energy delivered against the target. You get greater penetration, 2 more inches than a high velocity 2-2-3 round. So this kind of brings life back into your carbine I would say. What do you think Don? Oh yeah, no question about it. So now we have a nice little package here where all your mags, nothing changes on the weapon, sight picture is exactly the same, nothing changes. But your weapon is kind of brought up in the 21st century with regard to penetration and energy delivery. This is a good thing. So those 2 million carbines out there have just jumped up with regard to potential. Now is Corbon ammunition cheap? I'm not going to tell you it's cheap, it's not. But it is a useful ammunition and it is a useful load and it might behoove you if you have an M1 carbine to pick up however many boxes you can afford and to put them on the shelf. and also keep them in prioritized inventory. In other words, you don't use them for range fire, obviously. You are going to save them as combat load ammunition. And one cool thing about the M1 carbine, as I mentioned, with other light rifles like the SU-16 and the high point carbines, is that the M1 carbine weighed about 5 pounds. We're looking at 15 round magazines that are smaller than a pack of cigarettes. Think about that. A little bigger than a Zippo. Two Zippos stacked, one on top of the other and about two Zippos wide. And you can carry them everywhere. You can carry 15 roundy curvy mags in every pocket on your person, every coat pocket, and you wouldn't even notice them. They're just that out of the way. Now on top of that, you can throw a double mag pouch on the stock, which you'll see in equipping part one, equipping for the new old order of the video that I did. And if you can find a reliable military 30 round magazine, or just equipping a 15 round mag, even if you jump out of the shower, but naked, you grab that rifle with the double mag pouch on the stock and a magazine and a weapon, and you've got enough ammunition to keep you alive. You can return fire, put bullets down range, focus on hitting the target, suppress the aggressor and hopefully get out of a situation or get to more ammunition or at least get down the road and out of the way. It's that simple. Plus, you've given the warning in a situation where you may be under attack and this is a surprise threat. Boom, boom, boom, boom! Let's everybody know there's a problem. You see how that works? Yep. So that's a good thing. Now, beyond the carbine, there's a number of 45 ACP light or 9mm light rifles such as Wythe Marlin camp carbine. And that's a pretty handy rifle, isn't it Don? Oh yeah, in fact, the one right over there, I really like it. Yeah. Within arm's reach. Yes, exactly. It's got a 68 yard zero in it. What we are looking at is a nice little combo rifle. In 9mm or .45 it takes a standard military type mag or standard industrial mag. In 9mm it takes a staggered magazine. With .45 it takes a standard 1911 A1 .45 magazine which means it makes for a great pistol rifle combo kit. in that you carry one magazine and you don't have to go, ooh ooh, do I need to go to this pouch or this pouch? No, no, every pouch you reach for, whatever mag pouch you have, if you've got the rifle, kachunk, it goes in, and then, boom boom boom boom. If it's the pistol, chop, drop the mag, pull out a mag from wherever, drop it in the magazine well, drop the slide, boom, boom, boom, boom. It beats standing there trying to figure, hmm, gee, was it the pistol on the port side and the rifle on the right, or was it the long gun on the left and see how that worked? Plus, again, commonality of ammunition. The other cool thing is you can throw a pistol to a guy. Let's say that somebody is standing there that's an ally and they were in a work detail and you're not. They're busy with something else. Or they're just doing something. They could have come out of a latrine just like we're talking about. They don't have their weapon with them. For whatever reason, in garrison. If you're carrying a pistol and a rifle combo like that for operational security, Think about it, you can take the pistol, hand it to the other guy, now instead of you just simply trying to fend for yourself, you now have a team that can return fire. If you need to give the man more mags, you don't have to guess. If he needs another mag after you give him a couple of them, you throw him the mag that's on the gear because you know all of them fit the two weapons you're carrying. It saves time. It's an economical solution. It's an intelligent solution. Works quite well. Now there are a number of other little odd rifles or heavy pistols out there that would make nice little white infantry weapons for people for security or because again you've got young people you're teaching to use the weapons or you've got older people who can't handle the heavy recoil of a standard battle rifle. Some of these other weapons, and of course yes, I know, the Kar-15. Again, I'm not mentioning the Kar-15, not because I dislike it, but because it's kind of a given. If you could afford a $700 AR-15 or a $600 AR-15, a little Kar-15 or a light rifle in that category fits the niche too. But again, typically it's the cost issue. You can buy two or three or four of these other weapons for what you are able to purchase a CAR 15 slash AIR 15 for. Now, for you older people, if you can afford an AIR 15, I will qualify that you should remember there is very little felt recall with AIR 15. It is one of the other blessings of that weapon. So, for anybody who has physical restrictions, the AR-15 is an option. However, you may look at the price tag and go, oh my god! If that happens, I understand why. So, now we're looking at other weapons that are out there that may just be on the periphery. Now, one of them is pricey. I was going to mention this one only because somebody asked about Bushmaster the other day and I had to say old or new because some people forget that you call a bush master. Everybody automatically has this weapons nomenclature when you say bush master. What comes to mind Don? Oh like an AR-15, M16? That's right. Another variance thereof. That's because bush master has fit that niche. But here's the thing, just a few short years, well a decade ago and more. Bushmaster wasn't producing AR-15s, they were producing other rifles. Now does anybody remember the Bushmaster bullpup that the Marine Corps experimented with? It was a really cool ray gun looking rifle. But what they did, now here's the trick, all that he did is he applied what was called the PAWS system or the PAWS concept to building a bullpup rifle. The Personal Assault Weapon System or PAWS that was developed in the 60s was based on minimal machining time utilizing existing geometric forms out of the industrial complex. In other words, what if I take a steel tube a certain size and base everything upon that steel tube? What can I do with it? That's what they did. The PAWS weapon was made in .223. It was made from off-the-shelf metal geometric steel extrusions that were already available in different tubing configurations, square tubing. What they did with the bullpup that was made by Bushmaster is the same thing. There is an extruded alloy tubular stock receiver, square. was anodized with all the other parts and fixtures attached based upon AR-15 components and the little rifle actually is pretty successful. The Marines experimented with 2,000 of them. We didn't hear any more about that so obviously they decided that they didn't want to go that way with the pause or in this case with the Bushmaster but they did at least see some consideration. Now before that, this is why I say old Bushmaster and new Bushmaster. Before that, before the AR-15s and the Bushmaster bullpup that we're talking about from the 90s and the odds, Bushmaster was famous for its Bushmaster pistol. Anybody remember the Bushmaster pistol? It was a cool little weapon. You might recall that the most common sketch shows an air crewman as a line drawing as part of the advertising, showing an air crewman out of a Huey holding onto one of the stanchions with a Bushmaster pistol resting on his arm. in .223 firing at a target as if he was returning fire. The Bushmaster pistol was touted as the most powerful handgun of its day of the era. Okay, which is true. What it was was a bullpup, flexible receiver, flexible barrel, .223 semi-automatic or full auto if it was the military option, full of semi, .223 rifle. A rectangular receiver, very simple internals utilizing M16 and AR15 internals for all of its internal working parts. A flexible barrel with a trigger group that was ahead of the receiver and located underneath the barrel which made the thing kind of look like a big Ruger Mark II pistol on steroids. Now the pistol grip was flexible. You could turn it left or right. It flexed on the receiver and barrel. Turn. Pivot it around the barrel. so that you could hold the pistol grip and lay the receiver on your forearm so the magazine would be in towards your body. And the cool thing about this was, of course, is that it had top ejection feed. Now, if you wanted to hold it left handed, all you did was pivot the pistol grip, lay the receiver on your arm, and it would eject from the top and then, of course, as it did on the other side. Now, these took standard AR-15 magazines. So when somebody came up with a 90 round drum, this made this thing a real cool looking Star Wars blaster. Now the pistol version, we took off to a degree, there's a lot of them out there but they've all been made to disappear as they're in private collections now. And the rifle version that came out of it was marketed to third world countries where it saw some success in Africa, South America and was even used in Southeast Asia. The Bushmaster was kind of going to be touted as the American answer to the AK-47 as far as being a linear revolution rifle that was cheap to produce and quick to get out in the field, but it was going to be in .223 and it was. Now the rifle is fairly successful. Its commercial semi-auto version, they got a little sloppy with production and eventually it kind of faded off for a while, but for the longest time it was the cheapest .223 rifle that you could buy on the market. and could undercut the Mini 14 and certainly undercut the AR-15 for price. However, the big advantage was it took AR-15 magazines and AR-15 spare parts and bolt faces. This meant that all the wear parts, Don, that you were worried about were all going to come right out of the existing inventory of AR-15 components. Cool. So it was a good idea. Unfortunately, it just kind of faded away partially because of I can see standards and that's why I say old bush master. You had to know what period the rifle was made. Quality was still serviceable enough. I mean it was still good enough that if the weapon had a bit of a problem you could tweak it with a little gunsmithing and it would be fine. If you see them, they are decent little rifles. Who knows what happened to most of the inventory. It's out there somewhere. I know that certain purchasing agents were picking all of them up. So they are probably in a couple of militia armories in very, very specific groups. Because that's typically what's been happening. Most people don't realize this, but purchasing agents, people go out and their mission is to purchase for specific units. Example, the AR-180s that were out there, that's why they're all gone guys. They went into private collections where there are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them, all for issue to specific units. And that's what's happened with a lot of the different arms that are in place. So, keep that in mind that that's one of the reasons you don't see the old Bush Masters round. It's not that they were, oh they just fell apart and rattled into dust. No, they didn't. They just ended up in somebody's hands and they stayed there because most of those people have the finished policy of guns or for buying. Not for selling. I'm telling you. Anyway, ideas on the Bushmaster pistol. There are a couple variations in weapons like that. Again, it fits a little niche. It does not have the accuracy though of, shall we say, like the M1 carbine or the high point or the SU-16. All of those are true little light carbines that you're able to put to your shoulder. Actually, line up the sights and you're going to see some nice paper cutting or you're going to see proper impact on target, depending on who it is. with reasonable accuracy and with good result because again you can tailor the loads, the weapon, the ammunition you're using accordingly to the need for the moment. Plus, each of those weapons mentioned will consume pretty much anything that you throw at them. This is also true of the M1 carbine. She is pretty forgiving for what it is. Now you can't, the sloppy reloading will get you on that one. With the carbine you've got to be accurate with your reloading. You should be with all reloading. But you need to be especially careful with quality control when it comes to loading the M1 carbine. This way, since your life depends on it, we do want to kind of make sure the weapon cycles properly. You know what I mean? It's got to work right. Before I hear the music we're going to break, this is Donna Mark, NewsHour Report, it's Weapons Wednesday, we'll be back in about 3 minutes right here on Eastern City Radio. They call them crickets. They call them other things. They call them hornets depending on the manufacturer But they were basically survival guns. I wanted to do this mark because you know Sometimes you're gonna suffer failures and again sometimes you might come across somebody here at least I can give you this you got a load one at a time, but Keep looking over there. Okay? You know what I mean now When what I wanted to do with that is you know when that gun packs into it It's kind of tapered and if you put it in your pack like you know pointing up if it were a symbol pointing up You're gonna have to unload a whole bunch of stuff around it before you can draw that out of your pack You know what I mean? So if you were to if you have this kind of gun and you're gonna put it in your pack pack it in there narrow down You know kind of like invert the triangle and put in pack it in that way So all you have to do is reach in there and lift it out instead of bring 20 other things with it Now this goes back over to You know the big duffel bag mark the not not the upright looks you know like a trash can the more sideways like Air Force and Navy issues You can put 50 pounds of clothes in that you guys Just close if I know you're the airline weighed mine 50 pounds of clothes in that bag now there are plenty of people out there that think oh, I'm gonna take this I'm gonna take that and I'm gonna have everything I need because you know I'll put it in a big bag and I'll carry a bag and I'll carry a gun in one hand and you know Arnold can get away with that. £50 worth of battle gear here. We're just talking about well gee you know half a dozen pairs of BDU pants and other things that got two and a half people through ten days. You know what I mean? £50. When it comes to like, I don't want to carry that around on my back, Mark, I'm certain you wouldn't want to carry a pack around on your back and your gun in one hand and that 50 pound bag of clothes in the other. Nobody out here is going to do that, you guys. We've talked many times about pre-deploying things, but let's talk about what you're going to put in your backpack. Even to the extent that I don't want to get right down to specific things, you might have a little 10 power binocular But you're not going to pack that in the bottom of your pack, are you? You're going to pack things that you need to come up conveniently in your cargo pockets of your pants, in your breast pockets of your blouse, even in what would be your standard pocket above the cargo pocket, the popcorn pockets. But let's go back to that pack. This is a French word, I hate to use this French word, but even in the canoneers today it's still a word that's used now and then. Musette. And it's generally followed with bag. Your musette bag. Now that's all the little accruments that the canoneer needs to get his job done, to keep things clean, you know, and this and that and the other thing. It's not going to be. He's not going to have that big long rod to swab down the cannon barrel inside that little bag. Again, you're going to find many little things that the canoneer needs. When we go over to a bag like that, you can subdivide. Much like the gas mask bags are divided, you pointed this out the other day, Mark, for a particular gas mask to have pockets inside. Now that's real cool if you want to run that over and again convert that, as you mentioned, to like a a first aid military bag because you've got big things going to big areas, small things going to small areas. And when you want a big thing you know where it is and when you want the small stuff it's right over there in the little compartment isn't it? Now you know the reason I'm doing this Mark is because we just did a trip didn't we? Now you try to pack so you can open things up and this is during what one might call peaceful times, civil times. You want to be able to open the top of the bag and get out the things that are going to be, you know, I need this occasionally. And the things that you don't need, but for maybe once a week, they go at the bottom of the bag, don't they? You can also, as we mentioned earlier, and as is sewn into some bags' pockets, you can partition portions of your bag by putting smaller bags into it. You guys, oh, you know, have you ever bought a powder pistol mark and you get that, that like felt that comes with it? It might even be something like corduroy or jeans, Levi's on the outside. When you zip it open it lays out flat almost like a rounded corner triangle. You can put a lot of small things in there you guys that were just slips in and out of your bag because you put it point down didn't you? You didn't put the wide end down so you have to move 17 things to get in and out of your bag. Small things like Well, I'll tell you that during this trip, I... And it was right on top of the bag when the transportation security people opened the bag, they look at, oh, here's a pistol pouch. And I'm certainly opened it up, and inside it they found a small pair of binoculars, a magnifying glass, a different magnifying glass, a couple of different cutting. In fact, there were like three or four knives in there. There was also a 50 caliber empty case mark. And you know what a good... hold that makes almost like what you almost call it a scabbard for an exacto knife. Works pretty good. Keeps the exacto knife from cutting things up. But again, even to the way you package things that which you carry, if you think that out, instead of having to dig something out or to, well I need this or I need that right now, if you package things so that you can open up And there is what you need right there and you don't have to spread your pack out on the ground. That can be a good thing. I just wanted to bring that to your attention because 50 pounds of clothes isn't going to do you a whole lot of good. Well, the thing is that now we're looking at more and more restriction on the weight. I was just told, yeah, we've got, by the way, for flying, they have just changed the cost for the second bags again and the third bags. And apparently there's going to be an increase yet again. Gone are the days when it was like your carry-on could be the size of a small suitcase, although it still could be pretty big. Your primary bag would then be flat, no cost, straightforward. Throw it in, pack it up as big as you can, whatever. They are looking at whatever ways they can to accumulate funds to cover their loss in business, loss in revenue, which is going to continue to grow. Because people just simply aren't going to have the spendable income to go flying around like they were. Also, it's designed to plug in the police state idea. Keep you narrow, keep you small, have your little plastic bag ready. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I put it out before, you know, Don, you know they got the idea for the clear plastic bag for all your goodies. Sure, that's your privacy department in the prison. The only thing I'm waiting for next is, oh, and you have to buy these special appliances and things if you're going to use them on the plane or that will let you rent them. And all of them will be what they call an ice cube plastic. Read that clear plastic so they can see through everything. Just like in prison. Hey, and soon you'll be wearing just your standard uniform and it'll be gray with the little chain links embroidered on the neck so you'll look like the prisoners in that one Star Trek episode. Remember the slaves? They didn't wear chains directly. They were wearing sweats and they had the little chain links on the neck. That would give them a shock? Yeah, well the next step is, well that was the next step Don, is now they're proposing, and most of you have probably heard about this by now, shock bracelets. They want to have everybody to be, they want to force everybody to wear mandatory Taser bracelets. On their airplane? On their, oh, don't forget, why your things. $750 for a ticket by the way or $650 or $550 by the button. And of course you've got some nutcase there. Watch the little old lady over there in B4. It's like plane battleship. Oh, look her. They're smoking. Get off the button. Oh, let's try to forget. Sorry about that. You know, that's exactly what you can expect. But there's the progression. They're already openly talking about this. They have proposed and want to implement Taser Shock Dog Collars. You know, can you say Woof Woof Slave? Woof Woof! Woof Woof Slave! Woof Woof! Woof Woof! Roll over! If you don't roll over while you're on the plane, we'll tase you. If they don't like you, oh well. They just had a little oopsie anyway. What a mistake made. I wonder, since those are radio frequency, you know they always use as the lie, and it's generally a lie, about, oh, we're concerned about FM micro transmitters because of, you know, possibly interfering with AV. It's always a scam they use because that's the big, oh my goodness, my plane! Well, what do you think is going to happen when you have a whole bunch of these little, you know, shock collars all on board the plane? shock. Look at all those people in that waiting area. They're they're doing the worm Dancing on the floor If I would be worried about anything I'd be far far more worried about that than I would be worried about all the other nonsense, okay? Yes Because it's most likely that that is how people are going to get severely injured on an aircraft Now here's the other thing is the pilot going to wear one to? Probably not thank goodness You can see, but here's the thing. They've already disarmed the pilots who by the way for years had guns on board anyway and you never bothered the pilots over this. Why? Well because the pilots, well the guy's in charge of the plane. He's the captain of the ship. I trust him with a weapon more than I trust the air marshal. You know that? I'm going to be quite honest. I trust that pilot more than I would ever trust some goof they put into a uniform as an air marshal on the plane. You want to know why? The pilot understands everything about his aircraft. He knows the risks, he knows the limitations, he knows the threats. And so if all the people I want to be handling a firearm on the plane, it would be that man. Think about it. Think about why. It doesn't matter a whole lot what goes on in the cabin. It's really big. Some rapidly exploding, some rapidly expanding gases happen at like 60 or 80 meters per second. But as long as he can keep the door and everything in the cabin secure until he puts the plane on the ground, that's basically his job, to get you from point A to point B safely. You're already trusting him of the lives of 200, 300, or 400, or 500 souls, depending on how big the plane is. So how are you going to tell me you can't trust that man with a firearm? You see what I mean? This is the problem with the groupiness of these police state P-brained socialists and of course remember the fact that well, they want control. They don't want to worry about your safety. They're control freaks. The last thing they want is for men who traditionally have had authority and have usually been pretty reasonable with it, actually being able to protect themselves because they are the greatest individual on the plane at risk. But they are also conscientious enough to understand what they are responsible for with regard to and who they are responsible for, which is you, the passenger. So I would say that of all the people we used to, you know, again, traditionally in the past, we must understand, especially international flights, there are only certain ways you could transport weapons. Either one to hold. It could be secured or unsecured of course. It could be in the baggage and they may well find they are checking through your baggage and other conditions. And expiring of course, that's not a good thing. But you could tag it and it would be transported as cargo. It could be transported as your baggage marked and identified and checked in at the gate, at the desk. And inspected at the desk by the way. Most people don't understand that. We've done that thousands of times. People don't realize that traditionally the other way that the weapons were transported is by putting them up in the cabin of the aircraft. Oh, that's right, the command cabin, where the pilot is. Most people don't know that, but that actually was a traditional location. For what reason? Well, they're the captain of the ship. That's the guy in charge. He has the arms. Like a purser. Exactly. Well, it takes sub-captain of the sky, well, you know, by the way. And the thing is that that's his job. If you can't trust him, who can you trust? If you really wanted to kill everybody on board, why bother with a gun? All he does is play her into the ground, kids. And well, you know, we all go together. First thing he hits the ground is him and you come right, you hit the same spot right behind him. Blub, blub, blub, blub. Okay? It's that simple. So again, just some common sense here. I just want to point that out real quick. The whole point is the shock collars and the next thing coming in. I tell you what, everybody just needs to sit on their money, walk away from the aircraft and tell them if they want to treat anybody like a dog, stick those collars around the throats of these scumbag communists we've got trying to take over the country, and let's hit the button every well while we ship them and deport them somewhere else. Then once we're done with that, we'll all get back to flying. How's that sound? It makes me wonder if the sky marshals would wear one. Oh no, there'd be above all of that. Yeah, be subject to an accidental shocking. See, this goes in a whole nother because we can't have the sky marshal subject to outside influence. And another thing that might lead to, suppose someone gains the frequency that sets these off, be either in batches or individually. Suppose someone builds a broadcaster transmitter good enough to hit an airplane from the ground and you've got everybody in the But, Kevin, beyond the control of anyone else aboard the airplane, would that be another form of, what is it when it's in a computer marked, cyber-terrorism? Yeah, there we go. Well, actually, it's broadcast terrorism. Yeah, terrorism that happens because we're trying to prevent and defeat terrorism. How we think about that? And they provide the very tools for the stupidity involved. Exactly. So they know what they're doing, actually again, but it's designed to make everybody feel comfortable about the slave state mindset, the slave state slash plantation environment. I wonder if they would put any of these collars on the people who load the airplanes. Because you know about six years ago there was an airplane left, I can't remember, I think it was in Michigan. It was completely loaded in the tail. The lazy guy who apparently knew nothing about aviation, aeronautics or loading around the center of the gravity, loaded everything into the tail of the airplane. The airplane rolled down the runway, stuck its nose in the air and continued no matter what the pilot did to stick its nose in the air until it fell to the ground tail first. That's the kind of person that needs a collar. Do the job right. Do the job right while you're doing it. Do the job right. 200 people count on you. Yup. Exactly. Well again, one of the things we have to look at here is we're looking at a number of different threats, a number of different problems, and not the least of which is the police state in general creating pretty much all of them, but for the same reason, they don't care if there's error. Error is part of the very nature of the police state. Now, we're not going to let it get that far. This is one of the things that is going to have to happen. We are going to have to be prepared and understand that we are going to be the deciding factor. To do that, you have to be competent with your arms. Now, not just picking them up and going, well, I bought them, I put them, that's a start. I would say that at the very least, I'm never going to complain. If you bought the weapon and you put it on the shelf, that's a big jump right there. You've got the arm and hand. But you're going to have to study it, immerse yourself in its technologies, understand how it's supposed to perform. You're going to have to train both with the weapon itself or With some alternate solution, you know again, Airsoft is something I'm going to harp a little bit on as always. Airsoft is an option where you may find a parallel arm that matches the weapon that you are using and allows you to train effectively with that weapon by training with a simulator that is about as real, close to the actual firearm as you're going to get. Now, it's purely a matter of how much money you spend and no, I don't like spending three or four hundred dollars on a training aid. When I could spend the $300 or $400 on a weapon, most of you would probably say the same thing. However, there are a lot of airsoft that are under $15, $25 a piece, $6, whatever, where you can actually pick them up and it will give you an opportunity to practice with a simulated arm very, very close to what it is that you will probably, well not probably, but probably possess. So take advantage of that. Use it. Utilize the resources that are at your disposal. Now, when you get into live fire, that's the next step up. Start out with range fire and then move on to fire maneuver. Now, I want to bring that up. That's a segue for something else coming up here, by the way. For many of you guys in the Midwest, but specifically for here in Michigan, we have a tactical operation that's coming up on the 27th and 28th. The host unit will be Hautari. If you want to find out more, it's going to be RSVP. is that hutari.com? You can get an RSVP arrangement in place. The idea behind this is to know the numbers and of course you will be understanding what the criteria is for this exercise. They are going to be training for two days solid, 27th and 28th of September. This will be just before a new moon so it is going to be some of the darkest days of the month. If you have night vision, bring it. Overlapping with that, we do have a number of other events that are taking place and we are looking at other activities that are going to be critical to overall operation. One of the other events coming up, which is already written in stone, unless something really bizarre happens, on the 10th, 11th and 12th of October we have Knob Creek. There are live fire operations going on there. You can get into the three gun competition, submachine gun competition. Of course there is live fire on the range itself plus there are a lot of other activities, both militia and general, that will be taking place in the area on the 10th, 11th and 12th. So keep in mind that you are going to need to be squared away for that. Also hopefully, we will see how well we can work this out. We are going to be down there and hopefully doing a program from down there, at least on Friday. That would be cool. And so cross your fingers. We'll work on the specs for that as quickly as we can and have that all squared away. We'll probably use the same site that we used the last time we were down there. They were all wired up and ready to go. So it's one of the restaurants right there locally. And as soon as we can confirm use of the restaurant in the same area, if you want to come and sit down and listen to the program and then we'll have a little bit of a meeting afterwards, that will be an excellent opportunity to do so. But you want to plan ahead. So we're going to get the information passed out for that. And then we'll act accordingly. Now, with the tactical operations, when you deploy, you should deploy as if you were going to fight. One of the most common mistakes made, and I'm going to warn everybody about this, is we're going to lighten the load and do this and that and the other. Really, is that training? Now that is training to a degree, but train as you will fight, for you will fight as you have trained. If you have backpacks, your load bearing equipment squared away, and everything in place, this is where you get a chance to tweak it. Does the magazine or the magazine pouches sit where they are supposed to? Are they locked in the way they are supposed to be? Does your vest fit properly? Does your H-hose fit properly? Etc. Etc. Well by using it in the field now, you are going to find out what needs to be tweaked, what needs to be adjusted, where something needs to be moved, if something needs to be padded or if something needs to be taped down or if it needs to be re-stationed. That's what training operations are for. By the time you get into the field, all of those issues will have been dealt with. Now another thing, you will carry your gas mask. You may not use it, although on these training exercises, I'm going to tell you right now, you will be. But the whole point is that all the equipment you're going to have to carry will need to be on station ready for use. This way you will understand the fit and feel, texture, and the nature of the equipment. This includes loaded magazines, this includes spandoliers, spare mags of any kind. All of the equipment that should be in the backpack should be there. Your water, water transportation, all the water systems that you have, be it a Camel Pack, two quart canteens, bladders, could be one liter bottles, could be one quart canteens. All of them need to be filled. Now why would we do that, Don? Well, I don't see a water fountain out there in the woods and you know there might be a spring or a creek or whatnot But do you really want to drink it? That's right The issue is going to be clean water and also remember that if you've put all these containers on your gear and you're running around with them empty How does that simulate your actual combat load? Yeah, that's kind of cheating, isn't it? Well, it looks good. Yeah, but okay. Are you carrying the remember pint is a pound the world around weight? Remember that's the fluid formula. A pint is a pound. The world around. So for every pint that you carry, that's another pound you're going to have to carry. Now if you've got the canteens, you better load them up and figure out whether or not they're in proper station on your web gear. Now you still have to take into consideration the fact that can you reach your magazines? Are you able to access all the critical components to keep your rifle operational, to keep your pistol in service, to be able to bring them into service? See, this is all part of the weapons ergonomics issue. You've got to make it so it works. You may have put a mag pouch in a place that looks cool, but if you can't reach it, does it serve you? Nope. So we may want to rearrange the distribution of weight. So that magazine pouch is a little farther forward, I can reach and make contact with all the critical components and then adjust all of the other gear accordingly in position on the pistol belt, on the web belt, so that when the time comes, I don't have to guess. And the other part about that is, just as we were talking earlier, Don, as you said, I don't want to have to guess what's in each pouch. Right. I will know in advance, I will be disciplined and used to the idea that the configuration that I wear in the field will be consistent with combat operations, not just with training operations. A lot of guys, well I'm going to take this off because I won't have to carry it. Well I'm going to take this off because I won't have to carry it. Well I'm going to take this off. Well these are all things like, you know, extra mag pouches, your poncho, that doesn't get dropped. Canteen, all we need one because we're going to have water in here, but no, you carry all your canteens. You always carry your water, you always carry your ammo, you never drop your magazines, you make shavings. In other words, you don't just drop the stuff off and carry less because it will make you feel better. Otherwise, you don't get used to it and you're not disciplined. Your body is not disciplined. You're remembering where everything is because that's the other part of this. You're going to have to feel the fit and adjust after you've walked, run, maybe crawled. And you'll decide, oh, I don't like what that is because that really kind of ends up stuck in the mud. We are almost at the top of the hour, Don. Right at just about a moment away. And if we do, well I'll tell you what, ladies and gentlemen, be careful with what it is that you do have in the way of resources. They're limited, they're finite. I think you already know this, but it's better to have your whole family armed with something than to have one person armed with a really cool toy, but it is a pretty good one. Keep that in mind. That's part of the formula. You're gonna have to work out to get the job done so that we can end up on the winning side, which is our agenda. We plan on winning. No defeatist attitude here at all for obvious reasons. You gotta keep them in the sides. 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