May 16, 2008
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Mark Koernke discussed economic decline, property seizure, and government overreach on May 16, 2008. He analyzed severe weather patterns and criticized environmental alarmism, particularly regarding Al Gore and climate change narratives. The show featured extended caller discussions on child protective services corruption, asset forfeiture laws, and the role of county sheriffs in resisting federal authority. Technical discussions covered ammunition reloading, discarding sabot technology, and alternative firearm designs. Koernke emphasized themes of constitutional rights, local sovereignty, and preparedness.
- asset forfeiture
- child protective services
- county sheriff
- constitutional rights
- al gore
- global warming
- oak ridge
- tennessee valley authority
- tvа
- bar association
- ammunition reloading
- discarding sabot
- preparedness
- federal overreach
- property seizure
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free. and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torture freedom bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for once he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now, as tyrants trample each God-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, dill the land of the free? Ladies and gentlemen, this is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. Hi, Mark Horkey. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines and occupied territories North South gentlemen, you're listening to us. Ah we the people radio network WTP RN comm that's we the people radio network also on Liberty tree radio that Liberty tree radio dot 4 mg comm and we're on a mmm micro stations a mmm major stations CB base stations and to Boy, you get kinda tired of this nonsense. And of course now Igor slunk off into the shadows. Unka, wonka, unka, ooh. Unka, wonka. That all clearly reminds me of the witch doctor on the top of the pyramid in Apokolipto. Looks just like Al Gore. And he's placed the same kind of shyster operation too. Oh by the way, selling you your own charging you carbon credits. Now I mean, middle part of this country is getting rained on right now. Not getting rained down a little bit. Have you ever been in a rainstorm where you're driving along and going, oh man, this is bad, but I'm gonna keep driving because it can't be too bad. Anyways, it's gonna get better. I'll drive a little farther. Five minutes later you're thinking, okay, just a little farther, five more minutes. 10 minutes later, and you gotta remember you're doing 65 miles an hour, maybe, I'll lose you a little less because other people are panicking because, well, it's a heavy rain. And you're driving for another half hour and the rain doesn't let up. Now, you gotta remember, you're driving 60 to 65 miles an hour. You've been driving for one hour. This rain front is 60 miles across and constant. No, it's worse than that. Imagine 3, 4, and 5 hours non-stop with almost a constant rain like that. That's how it's been okay for, well, you do math, 4 times 60 miles per hour non-stop. Hey, wait a minute. That's a lot of miles worth of rain. Yeah, and here's the thing. It's in Tennessee. Well, it's in northern Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, and southern Ohio. What do you think the rivers and lakes look like right now? Well, that's why you're not hearing the, unka, unka, unka, ooh, Igor and his scum talking about global warming. I know, I know, I'm a little confused. It's the global cooling warming as opposed to the global warming cooling. or maybe you sit the way around. I get these things confused. You know, you gotta remember that if you grew up, when I grew up, they told us that by the year 2001, we'd have to have an ice pick in every hand because we had to chip our way through 58 feet of ice as we were trapped under the tundra. Y'all remember that? Now it's global warming. Remember, whatever scam, but remember, global warming's easier because it's always summer somewhere. There's always warm weather someplace. And by the way, historically, you always have droughts everywhere too, people. It's the nature of things. It's not just you have a one-year seasonal cycle. You have 12-year, 11-year, 15-year, 28-year, 60-year cycles, 100-year, and even when we do this, well, you know, the 100-year cycle, that's totally arbitrary too. Because people have not been sitting here with paper and a computer going on 1643. Wait a minute, they didn't have computers in 1643. Now we had people who recorded it, we had these great people who wrote things called yes almanacs like the farmer's almanac and it's really amazing how accurate they are because well they kind of pay attention to a key word here, history. Okay? This is like everything we're dealing with with all these goofs that are these new world order clocks. One of the things, do you remember when that word came up back in the 90s? Watching the end of history. Remember that song? Yeah, dude. Whoa. What were they saying? Well, they were saying that, you know, they were going to eliminate the idea that you even look back at history. Therefore, you're going to be befuddled and stumble every step of the way because everything can be operated by crisis management. Well, I'll tell you what, we don't really need that. And in fact, we do grasp history. We do understand the concept of pets. And for that reason, the old hucksters like all the snake oil cells, like rocket tied in with their crony, who by the way, Armand Hammer is prodigy. Armand Hammer, one of the biggest communists in America, and his dad, oh that's right, he's their pro- and they are his, were his property so to speak, slash prodigies. Think about that. What does that tell you? And by the way, stupid enough to pay for air, but a bunch of stupid people. You know, when you hear somebody talking about that and you got all these goofs, especially these kids, and they're prey on children, have you noticed that? They pray on children after all they're adults they must know what's going on. Really? These people have talked about, let me point some out, I was at college all through the 80s and 90s and you might recall and I think we need to bring this back up that these eco freaks and a lot of these nutcases like Gore When they talk about the children you got to remember that these are the people that made the comment if a dog or a little puppy and a child fell into the water at the same time Igor and a lot of these other eco freak shysters said that they would save the puppy, but they let the child drown You don't remember that I watched this as it was happening in the colleges where they were doing these brag ups like this people So these are the kind of nutcases that you're what gonna be worshipping and buying your air from? Hello? Oh boy. Hello McFly. Remember that from, you know, Back to the Future. Anyway, point is that we need to cast them aside. Dust off your cloaks, dust off your shoes. And we do have a lot of other things need to be taken care of. But the interesting thing is that no discussion about the idea that they have this terrible drought in Georgia because everything's greener as green can be. Lushed out, water levels are about, oh, above floodplain levels. In fact, many areas are above normal everything, and that doesn't just include Georgia, that's a lot of other places. But that must be the global cooling warming as opposed to the global warming cooling, or the cool warm cool. We'll have to get that formula down. I'm sure we'll work on it. So anyway, and on that note, by the way, during the travels here, has anybody been through Tennessee and Kentucky in the last couple weeks? Has anybody noticed that the state of Tennessee off all of its yard lights on the highway. Like, you know, those big expensive tower lights that are like about 100 feet tall and all the highway lights that, you know, bank the middle that are, God knows how much money they're paying to the oil companies and power companies to run those things. Now, up around Cincinnati, they had theirs on up in that area and above the burbs around there, but everything's looking really kind of sad, people, when you got not parking lots of cars at grocery stores. parking lots full of cars lined up to buy cars at the dealership but parking lots full of cars that are so big that they've actually got as much acreage on the grass they used to mow because they can't sell their cars oh that's right large campers I counted at least 20 to 30 of these how about construction equipment stacked up so deep that it can't sit on the tarmac and so they've got it sitting in the mud and the dirt and on the grass just to get it to park it somewhere okay That's the situation. But here's what's interesting. In Tennessee, they shut the lights off. Now, maybe I'm a little goofy here. Mark's a crazy guy sometimes. I ask some really strange questions. Many wonder, hey, why would you have a problem with power in Tennessee? Now, Mark's asking a really stupid question there, because people, what's in Tennessee that you all should remember from your great history book lessons? Oh, I'm sorry. Social studies where you didn't learn much about history. What's down there? What's that big one? Let me give you a big hint here. What's TVA? Does anybody remember TVA? That's called the Tennessee Valley Authority. Oh, that's right. That's that big FDR communist scam that was plugged in. What did it have to do with dams, hydropower? Oh, by the way, they're attacking hydropower, the goofs are. Now we have a problem with gas going through the roof, electricity being a problem. Boy, if we had all of our hydro dams online, and if we'd maintain them right now, we'd be able to power up America without paying 5, 6, 10 gallons, or 10 dollars a gallon for crude, I should say, processed crude for those generators. And by the way, the eco-freaks help to destroy as much of the dam network as possible. Okay, a lot of bunch of dummies there. But here's the thing. Tennessee's shutting their lights off. Another thing they have down there is a very unique series of facilities, but one of them is a nuclear facility. Does anybody know the name, girls and boys? I'll give you a hint, the Israelis steal stuff out of there left and right every day. Oak Ridge. By the way, during the 90s, down at the Oak Ridge facility, you might recall that we had Russians down there as part of this UNBS for going after our nuclear assets. But the Israelis, during 9-11, they were stealing stuff right out of the back door of Oak Ridge. Remember, I've mentioned this before. You can find all of them outdated, not probably the latest pictures, because they claim national security. You can find lots of older pictures from the last, oh, five years? Yep. Ten years? Ooh, 20 years? Ooh, that's right. Forty and fifty year old. And the TVA goes back to, wait a minute, that's back to the throne with this picture. And Tennessee. Fascinating. Oh, but don't worry guys, you know, right now we're getting 90 cents a gallon for gas. And let's not forget that, you know, since we all agreed to go murder Iraqis to steal oil for the Israelis so they could have all the free oil they want and then charge us an arm and leg for whatever they decide to sell us, if we ever see it. The war will be paid for by murdering Iraqis on their homeland, stealing their oil, and we'll pay for the war that way. Oh, wait a minute though. Well, we have a million, no, a billion, no. We have a trillion dollars spent overseas. And we were told in a big lie that if we go murder Iraqi women and children and men in their country, we will get cheap oil and we will be able to finance whatever BS they generate. But instead, well, bridges are falling down in the Mississippi for lack of repair or replacement. More than one now, people. Remember, we just had one up in Minnesota. The lights are being shut off in Tennessee. Hey, American business. Well, those parking lots, they aren't the grocery store parking lots that are full. They're the store lots where they're getting rid of their machinery and parking it so deep, you can't count it all because heavy machinery isn't building anything. It's all being parked, it's all being put off to the side, and the companies are headed to Mexico or China. Hey, look what this war has done for us and look what the globalists have done to America. We'll be back in three minutes with the people, Radio Network. You can't go on like this and I know you don't want to. 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Hey, how are you Mark? Well, pretty good. It's been a busy 48 hours. Yes, I gotta say one thing. I'm sitting there listening about those 400 plus children taking out of that religious community and not going to call it a compound. Not going to dehumanize them. That's right. Very good. And the thing is, it's more like, and you know, you're getting the same thing happening in Florida, and I'm just having a question. You know, you hear on like on Randy Kelton's radio shows could be on tonight's on the same network. They're saying you got to file criminal charges against each judge, these prosecutors, whatever. And they're telling like the victims, but can a private citizen do it if they're a witness to it? Well, as a matter of fact, you can file, you can demand. Well, let's back up here and start with how they're arguing this, and it's correct. What they're doing is through a series of regulations that where these people really don't have the authority to come in and do what they're doing Now the police have been cooperating But what's happening is you see they were cooperating originally when they didn't think their ox was going to be gored What's happening though is these parasites as it becomes stronger and as they're given more authority is they start to use you know Everybody is a target is a meat meat meat to be grabbed to be fought over now the Cops shops are having all kinds of problems with funding and money, exactly as we warned everybody back in the 90s, what was going to happen here, and these non-peace officer elements like the child perverted services operations, they are parasites that could do nothing but grow by attacking more and more families. Think about it, what is there, it's like prisons, where everyone goes, oh prisons are growth industry, have you ever thought about that? And it's the same with child perverted services, child perverted services, and that's what they are. A bunch of perverts typically gravitate to them. They've got other little buddy perverts who become the foster. That doesn't mean all foster parents like this, but you've got to remember, think about the sick minds that are out there that you are dealing with and their agenda. Now, because they are working as a private corporation, they've laid themselves open for the opportunity to be treated just as any other party in a criminal action. Now, you can go after them that way, but it is a lot of work and is a separate, like a third party. It might be a little more difficult because you're not the injured party. You see what I mean? The first rule of law is, you know, is there an injured party? Well, yes, there is. The family, the child, okay, all these people that are attacked through vicious, you know, through vicious innuendo and, you know, subversion is exactly what they do. And, you know, the people don't know how to defend themselves. People are not used to it, or they think this system is going to protect them. This is a money-making racket for the system. Every child that's grabbed by child-perverted services, the judge makes money, and that's why... Have you noticed this, George, now in your area, that only certain judges do this kind of business? Yep. Now, that's because that's what they profit from. And again, here's the problem with the trade, when you're talking about law. Well, George, you're in the child perverted services business and you're patting your pocket via the child perverted services scam. I work in, let's say, oh, what about divorces? Well, I'm not going to say anything about George because he's got his scam going and the first rule of all these bar members is to protect the racket. First, protect the racket. Second, protect each other. Last, protect the client. So think about it. That's the problem with our whole system. It is not a justice system. And as far as taking them and going into court criminally with them, the individuals who are involved, yes, they should and they can and should, but they should also litigate. They should also attack them for their bond. This is something that we've talked about how many times on the air here. And sometimes I think people don't necessarily listen on the larger scale. in that the bond without the bond being in service, they can't function and they can be pressed to go out of business, to go under. They have to pull their little corporate sign in. Well, that's what we need to be doing more and more with every one of these characters. Now, somebody would say, and I know I've heard this before, well, the bonds are paid for by the people. Well, that's the people's mistake, isn't it? You know what? If the people are gonna wake up, people are gonna have to be burned on this. The people shouldn't be levying this bond in the first place. bonds were established so that your personal reputation and your finances were at stake. What happened is the same shysters we're talking about, the Bar Association and these other critters, what they did is they progressively perverted the system so that the very people that you were trying to protect by having the bond are the people who have to pay the bond. Now does that make any sense George? Now and that's that's where our problem is here again how many people want to address that or even want to think about it I mean I know they don't but you know we've looked at this over and over again in the past Men were forced to be good because you know they were forced with a you know shall we say the sort of democles hanging over them to be good in office Because if they failed that bond was taken and used to take everything and anything that was of value from the shyster that might be committing the crime Today, today when you do it, it's going to be the people thing. Well, you know, the thing is, I'm a commercial truck driver too. I have to carry a $500,000 bond. Like yes. Truck. I had to pay for that out of my pocket. Yep. But not, but not the public employee. Think about it, but not the public, not with the public, these positions of public office, the way they've established themselves. They've got the people paying for them now. Yes, and other thing they just passed a law in Florida. They say you go 30 miles over the speed limit. They can take your car Compascate it. Yeah Think I were okay now. Now. Here's the thing the bat faggots This is something to scum now This is something that has come in from the privateers the Pirates and this is right in line with the whole idea people of what was what was what was said the Declaration of Independence officers directed offices to send swarms out to go eat out of our substance that's right and what are they when especially what do you do to make it profitable you make forfeiture the issue so they can steal from the people from the people that they're supposed to be in that are supposed to be employing them this is how you mercenary populations out to become prostitutes and that's exactly what they're doing all you can take care of who's going to get the car Now, I won't say this. Now, this is in line, remember I mentioned this about house foreclosures the other day? And for all of our listeners, this is important. Right now in Michigan, the cities are grabbing the houses that have been foreclosed on and they're telling the banks not only what realtor they're going to use, but specifically who in the way of a realtor is going to profit from this. Now how does the city have that authority or the state or whatever? In the same breath, we're looking at property foreclosure with the cars. We'll get into that when we come back. Stay where we are, George. This is the intel report. Bottom of the hour, break. Back in the treatment. Since 1988, Herbal Healer Academy has been the global supplier of the finest natural medicines. We specialize in keeping you alive and healthy. We provide outstanding products like ECX, Colonial Silver, Olive Leaf Extract, Oregano Oil, and hundreds of Herbal's Oils, Books, and Educational Materials. We have homeopathic detox solutions for chemtrails, radiation, MSG and aspartame poisoning. 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Well, the ring knockers initially, after we run their hind end out of this country back in the American Revolution, we're trying to figure out how to get back in. The Bar Association, the British Accredited Registry, is the key. It's what they were using to re-endenture the population. Right now, and George, she just brought up with cars, also ties in with something else. You may have noticed that the Batfaggots are talking about, well, with their latest management, they just gave out a bunch of little utility tools, Gerber-type utility multi-tools that have inscribed on them, think forfeiture, okay? Now, When you see this happen in one place, you go, hmm, these people are goofs. When you see it happen in more than one place, it's, hey, there's bunches of goofs, but there must be disassociated. But in every aspect of what we're seeing right now, the theft of property as the motive to, as the way to motivate the agent, premise. Now you're looking at a common thread and common attachment. This indicator shows that there is a single mind or series of minds that are attached one to the other that are operating in all of these different venues. Down there in Florida with the cars, you know, again, now did they say, what are they going to do, George? Take your car, keep it or divvy it up between the cop and the court. Give it up between the cop, the court, the township. What are they going to do? Give it up to the cop and don't see it again. Really? Yeah. Of course, due process. Now let me point something out here, and I brought this up years ago guys, and I bring it up again. There was a television program, and I've mentioned this, and forgive me, I have the name in my notes somewhere, but I just couldn't find it the other day. Back in the 80s, into the early 90s, it was right on the edge there, after Bushite wanted been, of course, manipulating things, King George I. that uh... they had this television program were all the cops what they did is they went to recruit these guys for a special project and their job was to go in and kick indoors before there were any warrants and steal people's property and take their cars take the jewelry right off their body take their weapons take their you know their valuables in the house walk out leave them like hog tied or leave them all handcuffed and then the other cops would come in and uh... finish what these characters started And the whole theme of this is that these characters are driving around with other people's cars, they're living with other people's means, they're thieving off these people with no due process. Now, they tested the water, and this thing did not survive, I think, more than five or six episodes that were aired, and they killed it. It made it disappear. But you gotta ask yourself, George, what do you think they were doing by putting something like that out there? testing the waters. Yeah, to see how stupid we are. Oh man, I want to be one of them guys. They get to kill people and they beat on people and then they laugh at them and they pee in their face and they steal their property and they drive around in their cars. They're driving the Maseratis, they're driving the Cadillac. Oh look at that, they're driving somebody's Mercedes. Oh wow, wow, that's until it's your Mercedes they're driving. Yes, another thing I'll get off the phone. I think one last night to a sheriff questionnaire they had one of the candidates for sheriff. I thought I got booed down by the crowd because it was a federal question, it's a federal matter. And I was talking about the Patriot Act and all that stuff. And this sheriff does not, this candidate does not like the Patriot Act. He doesn't like any of these laws. And he said he would do everything in his power to make sure the feds don't come in if he was elected and not bust down our door. And he bought a DCF and he said there and goes, well, this abuse system, I said, my deputies will go investigate. If there's any abuse, then they can have them. He doesn't like the state or the federal government. He's county-oriented. He thinks... Well, good. And again, he, no, but what was the response on the crowd? Oh, it's a federal matter. Why don't you bring it up? It's not a local matter. It is absolutely a local matter because, again, as you know, and point this out, but do it respectfully to anybody there. It is absolutely a sheriff's issue because the sheriff, the highest legitimate legal of what it comes to enforcing the law in this country. All the rest are parasites trying to usurp justified constitutional law with regard to the highest peace officer in the land. And that's the local sheriff because our concept of government is local government. And anything else beyond that is that's all usurpation otherwise. He's elective sovereign. That's right. And the thing is, got to tell somebody, Mike County Sheriff, he's looking for every federal dollar he can get. Well, it's desperation revenue. That's what they're involved in. That's what we're watching this everywhere. I mean, on a level that it is sad, but it's the big we told you so. I'm going to go farther. I told you so. I've been doing this way back in the early 90s. I said, well, I went to county meetings and township meetings and said, wait a minute, let me back up and think about this for a minute. What do you think is going to happen if you let this transpire? At a given point, it's like prisons. Oh, prisons are good. Prisons are growing. Prisons bring in business. The only business that prisons generate or operate from is the misery of incarcerating people. The only growth industry that they can have is to put more people in jail, which means if you have 100 people sitting in this room, there are 5, 10, 15, 20, 30, 40, and a half of them if they have their way. If you talk over, say, a period of decades for them to have normal business growth. That's what people do not understand. And look what's happened at the county, the township, at the state level. We've got whole counties that built larger lockups out of the desperate hope they could racketeer off other counties overflow. And again, those other counties should know better too. There's whole things that they've made now, felonies and high misdemeanors in the past where it was considered frivolous. And it still should be, but it's in line with this whole process making something that's not productive, that produces nothing good, and that could be, the energy could be exerted in other ways that would accomplish something. And instead, it's a total waste of resources. George, I'm going to let you go. We got Ernie waiting in the wings. Alright, thank you. Keep doing what you're doing and make sure when you get there, be respectful, always please, you know how to do that. But be respectful, but point out that that sheriff, that is his job. Very good. Thank you. God bless George. And we have Ernie from Indiana. Ernie, jump in there please. Well, in the time we got to smoke out the rest of these fories and send them back to the land of pirates and shopkeepers, one of them that's been on my mind is frangible ammunition, more specifically subsoil. Any ideas? As far as finding for purchasing? Either that or the manufacture of... Oh, as far as subsoil goes, the basic... Okay, good point. Here... Is there any practical method of pressing them in a hydraulic jack in a die? and then firing them in a kiln or something. I'm not quite sure, maybe it's a technical question. Well, okay, wait a minute, what are we trying to do here? We're trying to make a... Well, it's something that you can shoot out of the velocity projector. Right. And I'm not talking about something that uses a chemical propellant, something that uses like a compressor. Well, actually, that's my... Okay, here's the... That's my... Okay, here's the... That's my... Okay, here's the... That's my... Okay, here's the... That's my... That's my... Okay, here's the... That's my... Okay, here's the... That's my... Okay, here's the... That's my... That's my... Okay, here's the... That's my... Okay, here's the... That's my... That's my... Okay, here's the... That's my... Okay, here's the... That's my... That's my... Okay, here's the The starting sable would still a lot with one of the advantages is this you can use discarding sable keep the velocities down You don't have to promote by increasing the powder charge go the other way think it thinks sliding scale as in reloading You might recall a lot of people always look at this. Why do they have such a wide range? I don't know about some of the newer books, but traditionally they would always show you all the loading specs With a particular powder going down to a particular weight that didn't seem to make a whole lot of sense However, what they were doing is actually giving you the proper mathematical formulas for going subsonic if need be. Now, what you could do in order to go subsonic so you can reduce, you don't have to worry about that crack and report, okay, which of course you're going to be having the volume of actual perceived sound, at least in some cases it would be greater. SABO would still be the option to bring it down subsonic. uh... in most cases because you can drop the powder charge down you would still have a real still have reasonable was the reasonable accuracy what you have to experiment with is what you know pop up or down however many grains need to go for the load to optimally perform with the pistol rifle barrel that you're working with that's why one of the first one of you see right there is a good question by the way The big thing is laboratory. Okay, think laboratory, think research and how you have to do it to be efficient so we don't waste materials. We don't want to load up a whole lot of something that's not going to work. So I'll give you a little, a little hint, some ideas on where to go there for reloading. This is the Intel report. We're in our last break. It's Friday. We'll be back in about three minutes. We've got Ernie from Indiana here on We The People Radio Network. Hi, neighbor. We all know that knowledge is power. 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Brave New Books is physically located at 1904 Guadalupe Street under the great host great topics brief speech at its best This is We The People Radio Network. Right, exactly. So one of the advantages, what we can do with a discarding Sabo, now think the muzzle loading type discarding Sabo cup, so they're another option. They were around for a long time, they'll allow you to use a flush base, in other words, 45 caliber discarding Sabo cup, a 38 special wadcutter load. If you want to deliver more energy, here's an old trick. You've probably heard about reverse wadcutters. Wadcutters are awesome. by them say now here's the thing most wide cutters have a limited cup base to help with you know consistency with regard to energy against the base of the bullet there were many different designs what you do is you take a standard wad cutter and turn it around now you have a a wide carp mouth hollow point that will still deliver not only the normal energy and weight all against the target but it's going to expand because that hollow cup base is going to stretch out to about 40 45 caliber depending upon how it impacts and what it gets. You can put this into a discarding Sabo. Yeah, see like if you're using 45 or 50 caliber, they make these for muzzle loading and you can buy them. That's totally off the shelf. Yeah, all off the shelf. Nothing you have to create. That's why I'm saying that technology is already there. Military did this. They did all the research on this in the 50s through the 60s. And one of the interesting variations on this was called the PAWS rifle, P-A-W-S. You don't see any information on it because of certain aspects of it they didn't want to talk about. Now, with regard to getting this to work, do five lot, you know, five round test groups. Get the sable cups, pick a number of different bullets, and by the way, you could even cast the bullets, 148 grain, let's see, 148 grain wide cutter or 158 grain semi-wide cutter. You can also use any number of the commercial hollow points or soft points if you want to, but I think if you use a flat base or I'm sorry, flat face for instance, jacketed round, it's going to be pretty devastating in and of itself. Obviously, lead is still the best choice because lead is going to expand quickly. It's going to be very, it's malleable, so I think rigid technologies, especially in compressed gases and airs, the Sabo Cup is going to offer 100% uh... energy against the base of the uh... of the you know the projectile of uh... containment device that's critical because they're making problem well you know interestingly enough there's uh... moment in the starting sable we actually research this using talk about this book but we didn't go subsonic we went super sonic are you can push to wow yeah you can take a total growth does seven six two by twenty five millimeter are using a brass case boxer prime reloadable You can take a standard .230 caliber discarding Sabo cup, take a 50 grain, not a 55, a 50 grain Spitzer, not Sierra Boat tail base, Spitzer Sierra Bullet. There's a number of different models. 50 grain approximately. The only reason you have to go with a 50 grain is because of the length of the bullet sitting in the Sabo in proportion to where the Sabo has to sit in the case to the length of the case itself to fit in a magazine. Okay, there's little mention issues. We were pushing 2,700 feet per second out of a Tokura pistol with no increase in pressure to the weapon. You're talking a .223 bullet traveling the same velocity as the M16 rifle out of a handgun. Now that's all off the shelf technology. All you have to do is take a look. In fact, we covered this to a degree. because a lot of colonial marines use the Tokarev or the CZ-52 with the discarding Sabo cup system and they've also made new dart penetrator bullets utilizing CNC or a standard lathe and they just mill the bullet, the dart penetrator made out of 4140 chromoly steel so that it's short enough so it will sit in the cup with a Sierra base but it's short enough so that it will drop into the magazine once loaded into the cup. So you can use a really, really... Exactly. That's the whole point. That's the advantage of SABO. That's one of the advantages of SABO. You bring velocities up, your overall weight is minimal, so your powder charges can also be more economical. So you guys were using like shotgun ball powder or something? Actually, we used Red Dot. Originally used Red Dot and also we researched with Accurate, Unique. I've even used some of the Husqvarna powders, the stuff from Finland. So this is all stuff. By the way, if you want to see an example of this, go to equipping for the New World Order Part 2. And you'll see an example of scale of the 7.62x25mm Tokra of round in the discarding sable load in proportion to the other types that we use. They're actually in the video. If you even go to YouTube, if you look at the posting, let's see, equipping Part 2, when we're in the table phase where I'm explaining all of the different pieces of equipment, you'll see there's a particular segment there where we cover all the ammunitions. You could have something from carbine size. Oh yes, yeah, actually. If there's anything on there, you'd have one heck of a trim clearing hose. Exactly. Well, that's one of the things about the 30 caliber SABL is that they could be used anything. Now with the carbine, the only thing is with the M1 carbine, it's a straight case. The bullet is part of the seating system and for the head spacing. But remember, just real quick, you don't have to reinvent the wheel on the carbine, although we do sables with carbine. You have to manually load those simply because of the nature of the system. We have another sable we use that works, but it varies. The math varies. A core bomb has made some new ammunition. Their DPX load that is phenomenal with the M1 carbine. It makes it as devastating or more devastating than the M16 round. Both have their own applications for... Mission applications. That's right. There might be times when you would need to have something. Great. That's one of the advantages of a pneumatic system. Pneumatic's are a wonderful thing. Now here's another one real quick and I only got one more call. We got Dave still waiting here. Real quick, I want to plant this seed. Have you ever seen a centrifugal gun? You've seen it, you just didn't know what it was. You ever had one of those little shooting galleries? For all of our listeners, think about this. Every headway is a little shooting gallery, so they had the little BBs that you rolled it up, you held it up on them, the BBs all rolled into a reservoir. You had a little battery pack that you had to plug in, you had to put batteries in, and you pulled the trigger and you heard, weeee! When you pulled the trigger, the BBs were thrown out of the end of the thing and it knocked down the little metal targets, and when they were all empty, you just turned around and turned the thing on its end again, loaded the BBs back up. Inside that is a centrif- that system is called a centrifugal gun. However fast the motor is determines what the velocity of the bullet is coming out of the barrel. They made full-size versions of that that were throwing one inch round ball the same velocity basically as a 30 caliber round. Now how many high-speed motors do you have out there right now? And how cheap are they if they're almost being thrown away if they're older pieces of equipment? Now remember, we're talking high speed, we're talking the higher the velocity, the more destructive this thing is, and remember any kind of junk could be thrown in and it throws it out the end of that barrel. Just look at that BB gun system and think about it for a minute. Now, here's the thing, back in 1900 men built those. Militaries were researching them, and they made them disappear because DuPont doesn't make any money on air. Know what I mean? Okay, I'm gonna let you go. I'll tell you what world we get. We're gonna jump Dave up real quick. Dave jump in there from California. Okay, I'll make it as fast as I can. Take your time sir, please. There's a lot of things going on around here. Every time a box shop starts cramming, it's a box! You know what I mean? So we're seeing a lot of that and I guess that's becoming a nationwide training Fed deal. So watch out for that guys. Happened to be playing poker the other night with an opportunity to have complaints about it. Says, well here's the question guys. I got one for every year. He says, they show up at your door to get your guns. Are you gonna give them to them? Seven people who didn't compare notes were all said hell no question for you to find myself some 223 rounds. Yeah. Oh Yeah, so anyway, what do you recommend for a good, you know inexpensive older model with 23 semi-auto? Well, the Mini-14 is still probably the most affordable of the bunch out there. Although, if you can find an AK in 223, I know the problem with California. Mini might still be your better choice. You might just think bolt gun. To be quite honest, there were some nice little Remington actions that are short stroke in 223. The other option is Savage. And remember, H&R makes a single shot in 223. Okay, that's a H&R single shot 12 gauge for 20 gauge. They just made it with a 223 or 30 a barrel. That'd be a good guess. And they're a beautiful little rifle one shot very quiet at these feet. Right on. Okay. Thank you very much Dave. Thank you sir. God bless. We are at the top of the hour, didn't last long, and I want to appreciate it. I appreciate all the guys calling in. We'll be back Monday. You guys have a good weekend. 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