May 8, 2008
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Mark Koernke and Michael Nasser discussed disease vectors and preparedness on May 8, 2008. The show covered insect-borne illnesses including Chagas disease transmitted by kissing bugs, mosquito-borne diseases like West Nile and malaria, and the importance of field sanitation and pest control following disasters like Hurricane Katrina. The hosts also addressed first aid for dogs, including diabetic emergencies and diarrhea treatment, and fielded a caller's question about NBC (nuclear, biological, chemical) protection for pets, discussing gas masks, positive-pressure filtration systems using vacuum cleaners, and emergency air filtration methods.
- chagas disease
- kissing bugs
- mosquitoes
- west nile virus
- field sanitation
- hurricane katrina
- preparedness
- nbc protection
- gas masks
- positive pressure filtration
- dog first aid
- diabetic emergencies
- insect vectors
- biological weapons
- fallout shelters
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked him through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free. and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free, the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors. So their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for once he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God-given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside of dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? This is the second hour of the Afternoon Intelligence Report. I'm Mark Kornke. And I'm Michael Nasser. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and on, We the People Radio Network, wtprn.com. That's We the People Radio Network, wtprn.com. And we're on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com. along with AM and FM major stations, AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and alternate technologies east and west of the Mississippi. So, find, across the nation, we're also way up in Alaska. I want to say hi to B Smith and many other friends, Jay and Mr. M, because all you guys have been doing a great job up there, listening in one form or another, because I know there are many ways that you can hear us here. on the intel report but for all of our friends across the nation greetings alaska is expanding dramatically uh... because of the alternate connections also we should be passing more uh... milestones as we move north through different areas of different situation last is kinda like a while me in that respect in that some of the uh... land access only comes in off the coast and we go so far like say up the side of the mountain that says part of she wrote Then you gotta go back a little farther and work your way up through another network of villages, towns, like Nesser with us. Mike, everything going well down there in Arizona? Well, everything's kind of going good. I haven't heard any more about the Terre drill that we mentioned the other day. It was supposed to be the biggest deal that we've had here in the state. Started up at their new one and then they proceeded on up there. But now it's pretty big. Kind of up there by where a root group plants. I was watching the news this morning and they had some chemical type spill. down at Pinal Airport by Marana. That used to be, if people are familiar with the term Evergreen, it used to be a CIA training base down there in the 6th Arizona. Down at the end of their landing strip, they fly Apache attack helicopters and they just returned from Afghanistan. But I guess they were offloading some equipment, some sticking of it and it smelled like insecticide and everybody evacuated the area and they called down the state. You know, you see weapons of mass destruction group and you know made a big deal about it So I don't know if maybe they were trying to bring something in to a with this terror drill or get all these people up to speed have another one of their false flag Incidences or something now either that or maybe somebody was trying to pull in some black tar opium there from Afghanistan and all the box opened up and somebody may have movie trapped it to protect their product and Or maybe they thought they were getting black tar opium and they got something else. Maybe. Hey, you know, speaking of black tar opium, I was watching the national news the other night and it was Brokaw or Jennings or one of those. But it was on Channel 12 and they were showing this Marine patrol over in Afghanistan. Now, I guess this is what they call the chutzpah of the news media. So it shows these Marines patrolling here in Afghanistan and marching past all these poppies that are all growing up. And then they broke to an interview of the, and it said to ho, but the Marines didn't bother the poppy crop. And then they were interviewing this Marine saying, well, you know, we just left the poppies there because we didn't want to fall in with the Taliban propaganda that said that the Americans were here to destroy the poppies. And I sat there with my mouth open and the jewel running down because as I recall, right before we went into Afghanistan, it was the Taliban that was destroying all the poppies. But I guess the Americans have such short memory that they figured it out. Well, actually, that's rather interesting because, remember, all you have to do is look at the demographics. I believe it was less than eight tons of projected black. Taurupium had left Afghanistan just before eight tons maximum for the whole of the year. In other words, we're talking bringing opium production down almost to zero. Now, as quickly as we invade and as quickly as we're there, opium production went through the roof. Think about that with the Taliban in place. So that lie, I mean, just call it what it is. That lie generated as propaganda is an example of hoping that everybody will have some kind of lapse of memory. considering that just before we went in, they had decided to say absolutely no to drugs. Hey, just say no. How about no-no? How about no or we'll shoot you? Because that's what really PO'd the real realty owners such as the House of Windsor because a lot of these ring knockers have their money in as qua money and as spice money. tied up into the opium trade just as they do in cocaine, just as they do in others. And a lot of the ring knockers, especially with Afghanistan, know that's part of the old, feist, who are ignorant of that. You got to do some research. Real quick on that one. Let's tie that in. Remember back when the Taliban, before the Taliban, the buhashadin, remember when the buhashadin were fighting in Afghanistan against the Russians? They used to talk about tunnel networks. Remember those? And how many caves went howl all over the country didn't they Mike? Yes they did. How old were those caves? Oh gee they were centuries old. Centuries and centuries old. What purpose did they serve or how and why were they developed? They were part of a secret route that was kept secret and was kept sacred so to speak. A clique of people who were involved in spice commerce. If you do not understand the SPICE commerce trade, also known as the, you might remember if you had remember basic world history 101, that the primary interest of Magellan and of all of these other long range traders that were also explorers was to try and crack or break the very, very narrow monopolistic SPICE and silks who found a ship trade, a way to move by ship, and get around these controlling factors would change the dimension of the economics of the world. That's why they were so motivated to do it because the riches were so great and they were so concentrated into a very narrow group of people operating in very clandestine but then very overt in some cases specific ways. The caravans, the term caravan isn't just a random term. Hearing about a caravan moving trade through any area, they were considered sacred because the tradesmen, the bankers who manipulated them, would move on anybody who attacked a caravan. Caravans were just literally newt. When a caravan, a spice caravan was moving, nobody fought amongst it, nobody would attack them, nobody would touch them. Even if a war was raging and a city was under siege and it was a port city, Tacker and the defender would cease hostilities. The caravan mike would walk right through the attackers, the gates would open up, the caravan would go to the docks, and then everything would just proceed as if they never had passed through. I tell ya. Yeah, you wonder. And kind of maybe a new twist on the old caravan route. back to Marana, that used to be a transshipment point for when we were fighting the Sandinistas down in Nicaragua. Remember, you know, everybody hears about the Mina, Arkansas, the same thing was going on in Marana. And from what I understand, they were also, because remember, we were fighting the Soviets there and the Soviets, they couldn't get any drugs. They liked that cocaine stuff, but it was so exciting. We were trading rifles with the Sandinistas and we were sending it down there. Then we were bringing the cocaine back up here to Marana and Nina, Arkansas. And then we were loading it on planes to take it over to give or sell at a very low price. It's kind of like the way the Uncle Ho Chi Minh did with marijuana and opium to our children. And here again, well, the dimensions change, but the techniques and purpose does not. And again, it's concentrated wealth in a very narrow form. We're back in Afghanistan only because, well, let's see, everybody tried to be diverted even by the subroutine about the pipe, the pipelines and the oil lines. Yes, the oil is important, but the dope trade with regard to how it is used on populations as an engineering tool is another and there's yet another sub story to opium that we're not going to touch on today but it actually is tied into the medical issue not having to do with heroin or with say morphine or morphia so much as other geriatric interests with regard to opium that were part of the long term trade secrets that to a degree still are not talked about openly. There's a whole development here, especially, and it comes from a little thing like, well, the helicopter unit just comes back from Afghanistan. There are questions you automatically ask once you've been in this business long enough, watching the different pieces as they develop. And again, it likely is not. Somebody may have thought, yeah, they had a container of fill in the blank. Somebody may have decided, hey, the Americans are kind of stupid. We'll sell them this. It actually is something else. Somebody, of course, passes the money back and forth. The American FRMs are spent over there, too, just like they are over here, to a degree. But they also know how to trade all currencies. Somebody shows up with a box here or a crate here or something that maybe they weren't supposed to be playing with or weren't supposed to have. It becomes, well, it fits right into the niche with the whole, like you said, Mike, the terror drill nonsense, et cetera, et cetera. It is interesting that they are desperately sitting the groundwork as we get closer and closer towards the fall. whatever type of crisis. For that reason, that's one of the reasons we bring Mike in because we are going to prepare in such a way that we're able to take care of our own. What we saw with New Orleans is a good example of the failure of the system. But let's talk about, let's not just FEMA. Okay, we know what FEMA did. Take a look at the situation from the hospital's perspectives, guys. How long did it take, Mike, before hospitals had lost power and actually were trying? There were doctors talking about euthanizing patients in New Orleans, weren't there? Yes, I think they actually did, or they just left them to die. I think they lost power after their GDS ran out after about a couple of three days. Now, the point is this, people. We're talking in the middle of the United States, with FEMA literally controlling the ground there. And yet, here we have stretcher cases, here we have what we call litter cases that could not be moved out of them with special support. And A, they made no effort to bring in supplemental power to save the casualties. B, they didn't make any significant effort to come in to evacuate them by ground or by air. That's the situation you're going to be in if you're not careful. We're going to make sure that doesn't happen back in three minutes. Greetings, I am Dr. Buell Von Chike with the White Paper Comicals. 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Bear in mind, remember in New Orleans, the humid tropical type region, of the transmission of diseases and that's kind of what we're going to be talking about a little bit today on our first stage for humans. How these vectors, the mosquitoes, the kissing bugs, transmit all kinds of diseases and after any type of Katrina or whatever just happened in all those things, the initial deaths, the massive amounts of Well, when you get rotting carcasses out there, pretty soon the flies start breeding real popular and then they start taking whatever bacteria with them and they use that as a vector. And then when you're eating your food and the flies landed on it, they just got done feeding the dead carcass that was over the hill, depending on which way the wind blows. So we kind of all started back in October, field sanitation and the controls of flies and the flies are going to attract the bigger bugs. and everything like that. And if you don't get a handle on it right, it's in the bud. Don't even wait for the trash to accumulate. Get it and burn area and dispose of it, whether it's your urine and feasts or your hems from your food or your MRE packages or whatever that you happen to have, cleaning your dishes, making sure that you have sanitary to dry your dishes. So even if you were out in the field, leaving them up on a rack, they're coming over to land on those dishes and now your dishes are on sanitary again and then you're going to have a real big problem. What we did the other day with our talk about a disease here, Chagas disease, you want the top of your paper, you write that out that American on the left column of it then you're going to write your soap format, your S, leave a couple of spaces, and A, and they don't know that they're infected or they bring it up here and because there's no order guarantees to inspect. More and more common here in the United States, bear that in mind. Now many species of redubid and R-E-D-D, sometimes it's called a cone-nosed or a kissing bug, they transmit the infection, rubbing the infected, whether they're tick, mosquitoes or these, what you're going to find is intermittent fever. swollen painful lymph nodes and occasional convulsions. Now your objective findings under O, you're going to have hard edematous, red and painful cutaneous nodules. Basically what that is is going to be hard bumps on your skin that are going to be all swollen with edematous, chugoma, C-H-A-G-O-M-A. And then you're going to also have facial edema and conjunctivitis. So you're going to have a swelling of the face and infections on your eyes. Your conjunctiva would be your eyelids. And the term, itis, is either an infection or an inflammation. So you're going to have facial edema and conjunctivitis. Now under A, which is going to be your appearance or your diagnosis, is going to be Chagas disease. differential diagnosis and it can be as are and the chakoma may be mistaken for a variety of tropical chances are if somebody hasn't been out in the country and they're in the Southwest there's a very good quality that that is. Now what you're going to have to do to establish a diagnosis you're going to need to be able to take. You should be look for all the patients but a lot of times though you'll only see an acute state treatment of chagas disease, a pound of cure. The best place action is to be cleaned and pesticides used to eradicate the insects and submit this on the lookout, whether they're fly bugs, something like that, especially now that it's warm. I know we had a little re-freeze there while it was all old and wet and snowing and raining, but now that all that's starting to melt, fine, because of the melting water, you're going to have floods. What you're going to have most likely a lot of floods along the Mississippi when all these records spin, you're going to have stagnant water. So you're going to see a big increase in mosquito populations. Mosquitoes may transmit all kinds of malaria or West Nile or any types of watch out for mosquitoes. And bear in mind, you know, it doesn't take a lot of water. You get old tools like that that can accumulate. And just that small amount of water, you can breed 100. It's about any standing water on your property. I know we've had lots of rain. information lately in the water and especially now that it's not been freezing, that it's starting to warm up and it's going to become stagnant. Today is the 8th of May, 2008. It's the Thursday. You're listening to the second hour of the Intel Report with Mike and Mark. I hear the music coming in. You can lay your pencil down when we get back. We're going to go back in just a little bit of first aid for dogs. Thanks. 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That is Poker Face at pokerface.com and we've got Mike Nesser here covering medical support. So I'm going to touch on a few things real quick. As Mike was pointing out with insects, in biological weapons, you know, the biological weapons arena, insects are considered to be vectors. In other words, they're actually carrying tools for biological agents. Typically what has happened whenever they're used, they're supposed to breed what they call sterile carriers. This can be sterile mosquitoes or whatever. Typically mosquitoes are used so they're easy to deploy. uh... the problem is that usually miscalculated the insects are not sterile someone get through that are very much really able to reproduce and you created an ongoing lingering health issue all that same vector concept works with uh... insects in the uh... in natural occurring situations like we're talking about right now where you're in different environments during different seasons there are peaks or uh... or just put this way they describe it like you know last three have these pulses of white where everything knows it's only got so much time to propagate, so they propagate like there's no tomorrow, because there is in many cases for a lot of them, and you have a mass, intense wave of these critters in one form or another. The desert works much in the same way that the tundra does, or the Alaskan frontier, or the Canadian frontier in general, that when life does get a chance to produce, it makes it mega time. That's where he was talking about, like, a little amount of water goes along, even where it isn't a problem. Real quick, another touch on this. My dad was in World War II, as I've mentioned many times. He was at Peleliu. They were the destroyers at Point Blank Range. It could run right up to the island complex because it was a volcanic atoll. 11 feet from the side of the island, it dropped off to eternity. Japanese attacked. They fragged probably close to 3,000 Japanese. 3,000 dead Japanese laying around in tropical rain. The bodies quickly bloated, the insects took advantage of all the extra food. Mike, they had these blue... My dad said they look like a blue bottle fly. Only imagine a fly as big as your thumb. They were the most luminous color he'd ever seen. They had bread in a morse off of the corpses of the Japanese. He said the destroyers were right there at close at point blank range when these flies started showing up. And they would light on a person's arm and if their proboscis would touch the arm, in the first moment there would be this red flare that would take place and it would progressively turn into a red, like a red, a brazed area the size of your thumbnail. Then in the next 24 hours it would actually turn into only, like it would infect, and turn into like a plug of rotted flesh that would drop out of the wound area. Now this is with nothing more than an insect, obviously carrying what was an exacerbated, in other words, a fluvial, a body, and carrying it, plus it's naturally occurring, you know, it's naturally occurring, resins that are used to break down tissue. These things had a tremendous amount of food all at once, showed up, and one of the things he pointed out is the destroyers, what they did is they pulled back away from the islands, because they could, but it must have been a misery for the Marines and the Army that were there because there were many thousands of men, they couldn't sail away from the battlefield. I mean that's the worst case scenario but keep this in mind when you're dealing with insects. It's one of the other reasons we've brought up so many times over the years the idea that there are two things that are cheap and very valuable when you need them. Make inexpensive head nets standard booney hats or for any kind of hat gear. The other thing is mosquito bars what people call mosquito bars. I mean we think like you know prison but in reality it's a net comp that goes over your entire sleeping area like with your bunk beds or whatever. Well guys, if you couldn't take the time to pick them up, it'd be a good idea because it saves you a lot of misery in the long run for a few pennies worth of purchasing. Usually you can get the bug nets used or new for between $1.50 and say $4.50 a piece for just the headgear. They're not much, they don't cost much, you don't have to use them all the time. but they can make it a hell of a lot easier to operate and reduce the risk under certain conditions. So go ahead, Mike, please. just finished here. After we get done, we've already covered the poison, kind of jumped a lot of that. About whole body care as in a first kinds of all kinds of things, the invention of diseases and everything. Diabetic emergencies. Emergencies, obviously they can occur when either too much or too little insulin is injected into a diabetic dog. Both of them are a major emergencies. and if they are untreated they can lead to a coma and rapid death. Now some of your signs and symptoms of too much insulin, if the dog is on a daily insulin injection and two to eight hours after the injection, it's weak, it's a major behavior changers, if it's in a coma, it has a low blood sugar price, need to give some gluten, insulin is injected, signs of any insulin overdose and some liquid glucose. into the dog's mouth. The dogs can cause it might be just the beginning of a low sugar crisis. You need to get some immediate veterinary help and there's a good possibility that your vet's going to try starting some IV stuff and giving them some. It's not enough insulin. The signs and symptoms are if the dog is drinking excessively, eating well but losing weight, the ability for some advice and possibly you want to see your vet within about 20. Also you want to ask if there's in some other of these signs and symptoms. There's a vomiting, fruity smell in the breath, the high blood sugar crisis, and diabetes. There's the diabetic dog showing the above signs and you have for give the insulin. Then give the normal insulin just immediately and some advice. Now about diarrhea. Now we're switching gears here. We've gone from diabetes to diarrhea, one end to the other, if you will. Well, because they'll taste about anything, any items, and sometimes diarrhea can be a common condition. So diarrhea can be caused by diet changes, scavenging and allergy, more serious case and metabolic failure vomiting. You want to remove all plenty of drinking water to prevent dehydration, and you want to give some kaolin, some cacti, or a generic form. in the mixture you want to give it a ratio of one teaspoon you're going to give them some one teaspoon, 11 pounds, every six pounds. The diarrhea blood appears you want to telephone your vet. Now after 12 hours of fast you want to give the dog a small quantity of cook and continue with this diet until the schools return to a normal. Now if the diarrhea is bloody with without mucus accompanied by persistent vomiting, you need to see the vet right away. If another question, a series of them, signs and symptoms you might want to consider, is the dog dehydrated? Does the skin not spring back into place when it's pitched? This can be called tenting or so like on your arm where when you pull your skin up does it stay tented up or does it fall back into place around your arm and the same thing will happen with the dog. I hear the music coming in and when we get back we're going to continue with our diarrhea. Diarrhea for dogs. The DDS. There you go. We'll be right back. The super food for you and your family. Hemp has nutritional values that far exceed any known plant. Hemp, used for food, clothing and shelter since time began. Hemp, this God given food source is controlled by your government making it not legal to grow for American people and farmers but legal to import. 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I'm Ron Paul and you're listening to We The People Radio Network. Ladies and gentlemen, we are back at the Poker Face, pokerface.com. Check out the band and don't forget our sponsors by the way. Remember we have solar power, we've got battery resources, we've got the bed fan guy, we've got main military. supply. We've also got gun parts guy. There's people all over the place that have supported this network at one time or another. You need to make sure that you stay in contact with them and support them because they've stepped forward to support the network. Okay. We have John from Massachusetts. John jump in there please. We don't have John. Sometimes this happens. John from Massachusetts. We may not have John. Okay, and by the way, John, if you're out there, just when you come up, just go ahead and start talking and I'll stop and we'll take your call. But as we, as we, you know, left off the break, we're talking about diarrhea. Now, hello? You're breaking up a little bit, John. Well, this is live radio that happens. There you go. Go ahead, Mike. Now, again, we're dealing with one of the last of the Well, the personal propulsion systems with regard to dogs, if you're not careful, and that'll be yours too if you're stepping in the wrong place, so go ahead. Hello? Oh, we got you. Go ahead, John. Okay, sorry. Sorry about that. I just came on here a little while ago when you guys were talking about the uh, vectors, insect vectors. Yes. And I know you guys are talking about dogs now, but I was wondering if I could just add something to what you were mentioning earlier. No, please go right ahead. Go right ahead. Okay. Um, when I, when I went through, uh, NBC school at Fort McClellan, Alabama, back in the eighties, um, mentioned a Soviet Union had called vector bomblet cage. Really with that. Utilizing different types of, well actually we have a similar system, but it's for dispersing any type of insect or even small mammal type vectors can be tiny rodents, exactly, yes. For a dog, what would you recommend for NBC? I mean, is there anything that your mic could think of to possibly dogs? I mean, I know they don't really make gas masks for dogs, but dogs or cats. Well, that's an interesting question we've had for a long time. Now it's amazing, you know, we'll go back to World War One real quick. They even made gas masks for horses and they made gas masks for dogs. The closest thing that would work would be the Russian skull type stretch mask that you saw, the M, not the M10M, but the MBs, MBTs, the T-Series, all of those that have the skull type, you know, just stretch over mask. Now there are some that have a smaller set of eyes. We've had thousands, I've had thousands of all of these. I've cleaned out the system and distributed virtually tens of thousands of these. They're still out there. There's a Chinese knockoff that's presently in country that has come in. That would probably work. The biggest issue is conditioning the dog to get used to the idea of actually wearing it. How do you get a dog to hold its breath? Well, that's one of the, it's just like horses. The idea behind it is that if you can at least get it on them, you're reducing the effect of the agent. And that would be a consideration. Now it's amazing how cooperative canines will be, just like Kat. There's two options. One is to actually mask them. The other is to treat them just like you do infants with regard to chemical defense. You create a, for instance, a carry box. You'd have to make it so that it's, you know, latchable for being sealed. I would go positive pressure like a chemical tank system for like an armored vehicle. You just go with a battery. Here's the thing. You go to China Sport. You go to the dollar store. You find yourself a nice little fan unit. The fan unit is a pusher unit that goes into the box. You put your filter array in front of that for the intake, of course. And you can actually compromise. What I would do is sacrifice a gas mask for this. But once you have everything fixtured into place, what you do is you hit the switch, the little 1.5 volt fan. pushes air into the dog, the little dog carrier box or the cat carrier box. And what it does is it filters the air coming in and if there is any bleed point or any point where there's a compromise, the positive air pressure point going, that's how tanks typically, most people think, oh, they must spend millions on rubber seals and stuff. Well, they do spend money on rubber seals for water and water integrity. Most armored systems are simply a positive pressure system. Yeah, that's similar to what we had on the M113 track ambulance. Exactly. You've got it right there. That's exactly what it was designed to do. That's how it worked. OK, well, thank you very much, Mark. And how are you doing, Mike? Hey, I'm doing fine. Also, just as a side note, the nuclear war survival skills. Now, this is not going to necessarily work with chemical and biological, but it will work for nuclear particles all out and things like that. Go to ISM. Yeah, Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine dot ORG, O-I-S-M, and they've got plans in there to make a Kearney air filter where you're going to use, you know, use your duct tape and plastic to seal up a room and then bringing in your outside air and running it through conditioning or your furnace type filters and stuff. You run three of those, it'll remove all the plans in there. Do I have time to ask you one last question, Mike? I just had I was just wondering about this in the event that your dog or cat is exposed blood agent or anything you can do for them or are they pretty much and how would you treat? Yeah, I don't I'm not even sure you can really treat I know they used to do the amyl nitrate blood agent stuff Yeah, and I understand that stuff's pretty hard to find anymore and it's you know It's going to depend on how big of a dose they got you know it's going to make blisters on the inside of the lungs. It's going to fill with blood blisters are going to pop and then they're going to basically drown on their blood. Again, I guess it would be the prevention of... But you know, you have to understand though of the likelihood of staining of your cyanide gases is none. Use it like the carrier because it's non-persistent. Well guys, real quick, I want to touch on this because you brought up an interesting point. We discussed this and I sent this out as information to a lot of people when I was behind the wire. But one of the proposals for an emergency air filtration system just online, well kind of like what Mike was mentioning, but simpler and smaller to create a positive pressure chamber because they all talked about putting plastic up. Even for your animals, there was no ventilation system. In other words, how long can you breathe in a paper sack before you run out of air? What do you do when you hyperventilate? They give you a bag and you keep breathing in it and what happens? That's right. Now, here's the thing. As long as you have any kind of power and now with all these little battery powered systems that are out there, vacuum cleaners. Simple take vacuum cleaners, guys. The intake is where you set up your, you can use duct tape, you can use hose clamps to take your male gas mask fitting and attach it to the intake hose. on the intake port with a hose to affix your gas mask filter. We made a diagram of this in one of the letters that you sent me. Positive pressure again, remember you're going to have to duct tape the area where you have your intake, but you also have, remember a semi-hepa filter system depending on what type of canister tank you have. So you have the gas mask filter plus the HEPA filter. The most important thing is to try and again understand that you're going to have some heating, some charging taking place. which is typically the case with exhaust coming off of a vacuum fan motor system. However, this gives you a positive pressure system. The only consideration is you have to have what's called a blow off at a given point, a venting system, so that you don't, you know, over pressure. You never could over pressure with a vacuum that much, but you allow for an exhaust point, which is a flapper type system. reference this, go to the Civil Defense Manuals for your fallout shelters and your blast shelters and it'll show you how to make a flapper, how to make a positive feed system so that you know as far as the basic system goes. Vacuums are everywhere guys. Off-the-shelf solution, very cheap and it allows you to bring more fresh usable air into a space but it pre-decontaminated Remember, another little trick to this is utilizing, we have to sacrifice a gas mask. You have to sacrifice a few of the cheaper gas masks to get the fixtures that you need. But once you have those in place, you take a Russian tank filter, the long one was about the size of an orange juice can. Remember that the intake on those are threaded. You take the larger tank filter, screw that in, put the other filter on top of it as a pre-filter. Now you just throw away the pre-filters when they load up. Alright, great. Hold on, good guy. I'm smart and Mike. Appreciate it. Thank you, John. Take care. God bless. Mike, can you come back tomorrow? I could do that. 23 hours from now? 23 hours from now. Okay, sir. I'll expect to see you here then. Thank you very much. We got to finish, we're going to finish up maintenance on the dogs to make sure that the one end isn't making too much of a mess in general. That's the idea behind treatment there. As always, God bless the Republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We're on the mark both day and night. Ooh-rah. Six bandits chasing down the road. Get them a backpack full of rocks and send them halfway back to the spiders with our dogs chewing at their ankles every step of the way to the water. Thank you Mike. confidence gliding in the diary. Yeah, thank you Mike. Bye-bye. Later. God bless. 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