February 13, 2008
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Mark Koernke discussed ammunition and firearms on Weapons Wednesday, covering the differences between .223 Remington and 5.56 NATO cartridges, the superiority of older rifles like the M1 Garand and M14 over modern M4 carbines at extended ranges, and quality control issues with foreign-sourced ammunition from Bosnia, Romania, and other countries. The show emphasized the importance of reloading, spare parts acquisition, magazine stockpiling, and primer conservation for preparedness. Koernke also addressed border security concerns, the threat of foreign invasion, and the need for armed citizens to defend against what he characterized as government-enabled insurrection, while criticizing UN globalism and advocating for American sovereignty.
- ammunition
- m1 garand
- m4 carbine
- reloading
- primers
- magazines
- weapons wednesday
- preparedness
- foreign ammunition
- border security
- gun owners of america
- second amendment
- militia
- spare parts
- m14 rifle
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walking through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free. and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom bright. As I awoke, he vanished and missed for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each god-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave to build the land of the free? Ladies and gentlemen, this is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Warky. For all of our brothers and sons, and behind the lines in occupied territories, southwest, east, and northwest. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on We the People Radio Network, wtprn.com, and we're also on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com and AM&FM major stations, AM&FM micro stations, and CV Bay stations east of the Mississippi, along with UltraNet Techmonks. That's right. And if the one can has got really fancy stuff, I got more in the button, I got a metal button, it really resonates well on the end of that cup. It is Weapons Wednesday. The good questions that Jeff had before the hour about the whole issue of as far as ammunition availability goes most important is that there is no difference really between 223 as it's designated 223 Remington and 5.56 NATO The same cartridge same dimensions across the board The military ball ammunition that's out there can be from a number of different countries and they actually have a different designation Than we use here in the US because remember different countries have different numerical value systems set up for their inventory, for their parts and assemblies and munitions, etc. So you got to get familiar with all of the different types of systems that are in place, as we were talking about in the first hour. The fact that we're seeing stuff from India, from Bosnia, from Romania, from Bulgaria. Their idea of creating a war and killing to do with the projectile weight, the inconsistency, probably measure the power. team powder load. That's right. Exactly. Or they're using a substandard, let's be realistic, came from the movie Zulu. Matter of fact, I'll tell you a funny story, Mark. I would rather use World War II that they're bringing in from Greece. It works better. Oh yes, well the first rule is basically we had 20 plus arsenals that were in inventory at the time in the US military. The US military set a standard. This is one thing that we, to a degree, we've always talked about this. We've been pampered. The standards were set by our military based upon industrial experience and field research that had taken decades. I mean, even before World War II, we collected a lot of data from World War I. We extrapolated that information. It went through the Frankfurt Arsenal Research Division, also Aberdeen Proving Ground. And between the different arsenals and then test runs that were that the military was committed to, but even the middle of the depression where they had all kinds of problems finding the funding, The M1 rifle, the M1 cartridge, or the 30-06 1903 cartridge, was perfected into first the M1 and then the M2 cartridge as we know it. The only difference is loading, and it was dependent upon the concept that the idea that the Grand couldn't handle the higher pressures of the original 30-06 load. We found out later that to be contrary effective. No, they're better. They're better than the .308. And so it's interesting that again the M1 rifle, World War II manufactured, I was just in a discussion with somebody about this last night. I hear these kids talk about these, oh, that's an obsolete rifle. And I keep hearing this BS. And this is because of some character and they're parroting what it is that somebody said, you know what, I want you to take a look at some of the films from World War II. Stand in front of it. You may notice piles of dead Japanese. Okay, well those piles of dead Japanese were mostly killed by that obsolete 30 out 6 cartridge And I'll tell you what if you stepped out away from the house here and stood on the well housing right now next door right in the field here next to me and I pulled out the M1 Garand and I plugged you with eight rounds I'll guarantee it's not obsolete at all in fact just a reverse if you were to sit down on the battlefield situation right now and you had a squad Outfitted with say excuse me Let's say 10m1, we'll say, well, it won't be 10m1 rifles. Let's do it. Let's do it properly. 4m1 rifles in the squad and 1 Browning automatic rifle and then 4m1 rifles in the squad or 3m1 rifles in the other part of the fire team. A BAR and Scott might have a Thompson. He's got a carbine or something, okay? No, you're looking at... Yeah, I've... Now keep in mind that you might have a little mix in weapons here because most U.S. infantry formations were sticky fingered, unlike the anal retentive control freaks that are worried about being counting in the present military. Back in the day, if you saw it laying around, it got picked up and they got carried down the road. They didn't run over it with a tank like those poor kids had doing desert dust, where the anal retentive anti-gun control freaks did everything they could to destroy stuff. Oh no no no no no. U.S. military combat infantry in 1943 were carrying just as much German equipment as they were American equipment whenever they could dig it up. Well they did the same thing in Vietnam, how many guys picked up? The sound was different. Now here again, think about this, let's face that off, that squad, I don't think it was the M1 rifle in 30-06 versus a present team with the M4 carbine as it presently exists, the M4 submachine gun slash carbine. Remember the Kar-15 originally when it came out, which is really what the M4 is. Machine gun, not an assault rifle, because of its reduced potential. It's reduced bare barrel length, which meant the velocities were down on the round itself. Now, let's face that squad, one squad with the M1 rifle off against the M4, and let's see what happens. Well, guess what, guys? at three times the range of that AR-15 of that M16 rifle that M1 rifle is still delivering as much energy in fact more energy than that AR-15. It's still super soft, 500 yards, but the other one doesn't even have any knockdown power. That's right. So think about, well how would you employ or what would the difference be on a battlefield that type? Now as a guerrilla arm especially the 30-06 is an optimal cartridge and for all these poor fools who have not done the math out here there are virtually millions of m one rifles and then we are saying i'm nineteen oh three springfield and and seventy or uh... m seven hundred bolt-action rifles plus savage rifle god knows how many that are u s made their sniper grade We're not going to dump 50 rounds downrange. I'm going to dot your eye and I'm going to do it at three to five hundred yards. And while I have fools telling me, you can shoot that for a reach that far. No, no, you can't with your M16. I can with the rifle that I was trained to use. By the way, I was trained on the US rifle, 7.62 millimeter M14, which is lightweight, air-cooled, gas-operated, magazine-fed shoulder weapon designed primarily for semi-automatic fire. The only disappointment in the M14 is it never made it in 30 yards. the like unlike the Beretta model rifles you know the BM the BM 59s and the BM the earlier BM rifles that were actually magazine fed grand but it's interesting that again the 14 still served its purpose and yeah there were some tooting problems with it but the point is that even that rifle are exceeds the potential of the m4 or the m16 rifle facing off one against the other the AK offers reliability but still doesn't offer that much more range. However, it is sad to note, and something that we should bring up, guys, with the present M4 loadings in the past, at least we had parity. This time, with our troops reporting what they're seeing in the field, the AK now has about a hundred yard range over the present M4 rifle in its issued configuration, the way it's being built now. What's wrong with this picture? Our troops are having to get, you know, they got body armor, shit, they're wearing, excuse me, they're wearing 35 pounds of body armor, they got about 45 to 50 pounds of combat hardware, don't forget the batteries for all the trinkets they're carrying, and don't forget all the little trinkets and things that are gonna get busted up over a period of time if they aren't maintained. In fact, we'll get busted up and have to be repaired and maintained constantly, plus their little plastic widgets wear out. The guy on the other side is using a less sophisticated arm but he has greater range and he's able to place his shop, if he's able to place his shop property, and he will. I'd say that given the proper conditions, he's not doing too bad considering he's bargain basement, the aggressor is, and our forces are sitting there with every widget on the planet. Well, they're half the whole situation here, Mark, with the up the bullet with 52 grains creating SS 109 rounds, 100 yards. Surplus ammo from other countries, which are to 20 inch. We have the knock downs and garbage that they're pulling in from. That's what they used to do with our bullets. They've got the state of the art supplements. We're seeing we just got a six year contract with Taiwan to do 223 ammunition. We have no business buying ammunition from Taiwan, but this is one of those sugar daddy deals they've done overseas. And this is the problem when everybody starts talking about this global nonsense. Bosnia and Lithuania are both producing ammunition. We're seeing some of that showing up now on the Renna Revolution market, which is why they're charging top dollar here in the US for it now. None of these places have the same standards. They have good, now I will say this, Yugoslavia typically made good ammo. Good stuff. Great rifles too. Yeah, the problem is that again, the biggest problem with this, it's not American made. Why are we producing the ammunition in Yugoslavia? when we have Americans who are out of work. You see my problem with this? They put a gun to everybody's head for the taxes. They then ship the money overseas, hand it over to a foreign nation state, and the money never comes back here. That's one of the first problems that I see. But again, on top of that, we don't have the quality control standards in place. We actually, Tom, what you're talking about has been a policy with the way that we have mimicked what U.S. arsenals did for years when we reload. We actually have a designated series of straw bosses. Their job is to systematically, over a period of time, randomly select. They have a certain, you know, so many trays. we pull a casing, they drop the powder, they do a scale check on the powder, they'll mic and spec a bullet after it's gone through the swage and double check them, you know, just randomly grab them. They'll also take a finished case, pull the bullet, spec check on it from front, you know, top to back before pulling the bullet, specking it for length, checking the dimension of the case. that it's almost embarrassing to see some of the stuff that they're trying to pads off as first rate ammo. And it would not be that hard to maintain a higher standard. No it wouldn't, none at all. That's the bad part. I mean even if you kept your dyes clean, you know? Mm-hmm. Well I'll tell you what we're gonna do here. We're gonna go to break, ladies and gentlemen. This is the second hour of the intel report, first break. We'll be back in about three minutes and we the people. Radio network. It's progressing, and it's only a short time until it's completely taken over every aspect of your life. We are entering martial law. There are 10 telling signs of martial law. America has them all. Use the short time left to protect you and your family with the vital information in this book. 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All kinds of magazines out there folks, and they're real expensive. Pay $24 for... Two magazines found you guys some really good, really good. The thermal magazines that they use in the air, round and 30 rounds. Ruben, you want to find out about Israeli or light magazines. For 24, and for 75, $125. And their number, 7, and Ruben is your contact. He's the one that... Go ahead and give all those contact numbers out twice each so that everybody else... Okay. Everybody right now, hold on, is grabbing their pen and paper. and let Tom go ahead and give a mug and grab your pen and paper guys. Our friends were right there in Illinois, have been talking about this thing being in the wing. They brought it up and then killed it twice, bringing it out into the public side for obvious reasons. But I think that they're going to try and push it under the logic that with all the pickle smoke and mirrors and confusion going on with the election and everything else, they might be able to try and slide it through, see how that works. And it's most likely that if they have their way, a lot of people are just going to be moving out of the Illinois district altogether. is as bad as the District of Criminal, uh, Washington, D.C., and has the same attitude. Chicago has been a problem child for a long time. I forgot to tell you something, Mark. Sarcos. $10,000 for M2 ball? M2 ball. In boxes or in, uh, in D-clips? Mm-hmm. Around boxes, Lake City. Yeah. What year? Any idea? 7, $3,800. Yeah, actually, for anybody listening, that is not a bad price nowadays. That's a good price, folks. You're not gonna see $30.06 like that. especially again that'll be boxer prime non-corrosive people. It's also American made lake sitter. Here's another thing that we haven't really touched on very much. Over a period of time, it degrades. Well actually that's one of the things that I was pointing out to people, the Bosnian loaded. Now everybody will pay attention to the companies that are carrying this Bosnian ammunition. They little comment they're guaranteed functional for 10 years. or shelf stable for 10 years. Now we asked everybody the same question, why would you be making a statement like that if it weren't for the fact that they've set up a degrading system with the powder itself so that it breaks down on the shelf? My problem with that is we have seen this over and over and over again. They tried this years ago. The military dropped the project immediately because the garbage had a tendency to de-funk itself sooner than expected. And there was no guarantee. It wasn't going to be 10 years down the road because of the chemical imperfections and because of lack of quality control of the factories. The powders had a tendency to deactivate within a very short period of time. So one of the problems I see is with these spooks and cooks with all the nut casing, all the debris that they've plugged in, The Chinese aren't going to be that stupid. The Russians aren't going to be that stupid with their ammunition, but the American forces have bought in with these prostitute ring knockers, the CFR types. The old Lake City works since World War I? Yeah, exactly. I've got 19... So the bottom... Yeah, like Mark says, he's shooting 8mm from 1930. They don't plan that. They say, okay, these idiots want a stockpile of all kinds of ammunition. Guess what? It's not going to go off for 15 years. Begradable. well the thing about it is that we would look at all the things that since they're not guaranteeing it for ten years we have to make sure we get the war going next year unbelievable apart for a couple of bullets don't work with exactly what part of part of the time to that to the what i've said this before uh... many times to our our students is use some of the in question that the only policy that they have to have this kind of work is save the best ammunition or your american great ammunition for your last usage, use up the other stuff first, the oddball stuff first, consume it. The other option is what we do is we deflect it and prioritize it for training. This is another option. We've done this before where there was stuff that was in question. Our point is that you've got to have some range fire. If you're going to have failure to feed, if you're going to have a malfunction of any kind, the best place to have that happen is during range fire. and during different types of live fire training. Why? It forces you to go through your immediate action drills. And this is something that we actually do even with what we have, what are non-active cases. What we'll do is load up a 30 round magazine for a student. Somewhere in that 25 rounds, there is a case that has got a projectile, it's loaded, but it doesn't have any powder, doesn't have any primer, just has a rubber, what we call a snap cap. It's a popper, it's just designed so it softens the blow so the firing print doesn't take a shock. When you're shooting folks and you hear boom, boom, boom, bang, boom, boom, boom, and you see different, you're dropping below the paper, over the paper with inconsistent stuff. Believe it or not folks, when you're gun, your hands are not supposed to, that kind of stuff. Tiny stuff that used to come in the tunic hands. All right, that's uh, it's gonna be dirty. Oh man was that filthy that stuff was Why was that stuff filthy? Chinese made it cheapest for the mostest but the point is that it does work I think there was still spare ribs in their charcoal when they were shooting that stuff. That's right I tell you what we're gonna go to break bottom of the hour second hour of the Intel report You got Tyler Mark will be back in about three minutes It's progressing. And it's only a short time until it's completely taken over every aspect of your life. We are entering martial law. There are ten telling signs of martial law. America has them all. Use the short time left to protect you and your family with the vital information in this book. Find this info bomb online in book form at survivemartiallaw.com. This book will tell you everything you need to know and how to prepare. 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It's Weapons Wednesday. And a quick reminder to something we've been touching on. today especially as magazines and ammunition of course, but reloading. I cannot stress enough if you haven't gotten into reloading. This weekend there's gun shows showing they're going to be up all over the place. Of course we do have one in Wilmington, Ohio, but there are other gun shows that you can find around the country. Make a point of getting over to the show and look to see what's laying around on the shelves. I got an idea for your listening audience. You guys want to get a real up here in the, buy yourself a five dollar ad in the local newspaper. equipment wanted. People that don't hunt anymore. I did the same thing with radio equipment. I put an ant out in the paper, radio equipment. Before I knew it, I had about 12 of them. I got them for like $20. of peace. exactly well you know again that the idea behind there's so many things that you might run into uh... usually if you're a real order to get remember guys pick up exactly we're talking about uh... my policy is always been for years is that you see if uh... period of a set of guys laying on the on the table or a an extra powder scale for five dollars pick it up and put it on the shelf you've got extras. Now when the time comes, if something breaks, you don't go, oh my goodness, I've got to go back and find the parts. Instead it's, oh okay, well here, take this off the shelf, off the workbench, put the backup on the workbench, proceed with the action to finish what you're doing, then go look for the parts. See how that works? Same is true with regard to reloading dies. Remember that dies are all have to say The dyes have all set up the same way and they all have the same thread patterns in them from one company to another. There is really not much difference between them. You're having the extra different loads on the shelf, which is right. If you set a dyes for 10 bucks, caliber by them. I don't have that many calibers over a period of time. That's right. Dyes will wear out. Greater and wider. Sheer tool and dye maker, you won't know what to do. Some extras of 23, you want to have a couple of times. You have to set them up different for difference too. Especially with the, well, just extras of what you've got. What we do constantly is we watch for spares. You know, so you're going to run into, let's say somebody tells you or convince you, I'm going to buy carbide dyes. Well, that doesn't mean you get rid of the old dyes. The old dyes? There's no one to buy. The old dyes, that gives you a backup set. Take those, keep them with you. You've got the other, you've got the carbide dyes in place now. Here's the thing. If there's a day where six people show up with single station presses. Well, you know, instead of just three people showing up with presses, if you have six people show up, but let's say you want to do odd six and you've got a set of carbide dies. Oh, wait a minute. We can't bring the other presses into service. Oh, wait a minute. Yes, we can. We have the other dies available. We tool them onto the machinery. We make sure we spec them, engage them. Look at that. Now we have two production lines going for the price of one. Heck, well, no, we have two production lines going all at once. Let's talk about something that you and I, Mark, are working on offline. 147 grain packet. You can use that in 308, it's 300 wind mag. We were talking about getting the most. We were getting them get $50 time. You gotta go $5,000. That's $250 and now you gotta go search around for a cheap. Oh, we're gonna really get screwed Mark all kidding aside. I think more important, we could actually make black butter if we have to. I think the key is going to be the primers at the shows. The primers, I'm seeing less primers at a show than anything else. And not only that, one of the things I'd love is, for instance, 50 caliber primers, normally there'd be 250 primers per tray, every fifth price you were paying before. terrible so what you're looking at that's for fifty caliber primers this is happening to a lot of different kind of like the old one powder frito lay bags they took you know put a little blue banner on it said one pounder well later on they left the blue banner on but it just simply said quality you know quality insured everybody thought it still was a one pound bag no tension 13 that's just 13.5 you know that's right exactly it was still it looks the same well yeah but it isn't the same that's the whole point you said the illusion the image uh... with primers uh... most important i will repeat this again and i've said this many times or vote to leader pep uh... pepsi bottles that you can't turn in if your state doesn't have bottle return or use juice bottles reuse one gallon no containers wash them out dry them out mark them large pistol right pistol primer large rifle primer small rifle primer small pistol primer when you do reloading when you pull the old primers save them all Now rather than having to sort them later by putting them all in the same jug, look at it this way, the containers are cheap and free. So what you do is when you do the large rupestal primers, you throw them all in the jug and leave them there. Primers can be rebuilt. We just have to have the basic components to do it. Why reinvent the wheel? Why have to make something from scratch? Remember if we have the basic components, we can reactivate them. But we have to have those parts. So save the primers that are spent. on the rifle save them we do a run-a-bistle say standardized the thirty caliber system fifty greens you get seven thousand it works out to a hundred and forty four uh... that's not expensive unless you can get real good uh... you were talking about russian surplus power that where would be the work of figures for that where we would get all the tables for that actually uh... the one company has the spec sheets uh... forgive me i don't have the card right in front of me or i'd be grabbing it but uh... They actually have two manuals, because some of our people have already ordered them, that cover most of the different powder cross-referencing. The powders at surplus, they actually have already given the spec information for. Again, the one is quite similar to accurate. Basically, the accurate charge should be used for that. And it varies depending upon which load, which type of ammunition it is, and what... Well, I'm sorry, forgive me. Well, many of the IMRs are available in general, but the problem is matching up the Russian or the Chinese or whatever powders to them. And some of these things are also like Lithuanian powders that we're seeing now, along with Finn. They basically have the same specs, they'll just be instead of say Strand, they may be Donut or maybe Blake. That's where we're having some of the problems with cross-referencing, but it's being dealt with, actually been taken care of. 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You're listening to We The People Radio Network. will do well even that you've been with for the first time and i thought it would be a little bit of a harsh i still wait a minute uh... that's for a while although the report is very short each board is closest like you know remember this i know it's been so much you know i want to know him one-sided to the only the other side of spain when there's going skied some days and came up with the same amount of currencies from one from one restaurant one of the uh... interesting thing is that uh... probably are going to get a good on the border there work practical competition shooting and they plan on not having the target shoot back much better chance i mean let's be real but he shot guy with the fifty caliber on the jeep oh yeah well i like the last time that the uh... that the mexican military was our side of the border now we just need to fragon period they need to be wiped out you want to know you might not be able to avoid with blue green bloody rags and humvees laying there There's gonna be no doubt who is where. They're not gonna be, oh I don't know if they were on our side of the border. No, that's okay, they're right here. They're still laying here bleeding. That's okay, we got it for ya. Mark, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if and a black or a helicopter. and you're going to have to be prepared and well armed. Now the rest of the country is in the same boat. These as-lanterns that are in here right now, their job is to kill off the American population. Our job? Kill the suckers before they kill us off. That's what it comes down to. You're going to be having to fight to protect your nation. Now we have a general invasion that's taking place. You're going to have to be armed and equipped to deal with that. That's not a law enforcement issue anymore, folks. It's a foreign insurrection. And when the government itself decides that they're not going to deal with it. It becomes the responsibility of the citizen militia to take them out. And that's why, again, what we're looking at is with regard to arms, the bad part of this is that a lot of you are coming up late in the game, I know, and part of it is because you're not familiar with arms. i mean we've had this this is why we do weapons wednesday enough in order because it wasn't promoted as a promoter society but trust me on the other side well everybody else is told to be proud of their national their national position part of their background blah blah blah blah blah except the americans are supposed to all bend over backwards whether role through the country we're not going to happen and you're all realizing that for all the platitudes and for all the nonsense they've been lying okay i'm i'm going to write here the middle in the middle of liberal central okay i was raised in the arbor area which is this like little california i listen all this trip over the years and every step of the way this but on america they've done everything they could to destroy the american system to destroy and undermine the american ideals and in the american american heritage we're not the american we're not the uh... norman walk well envisioned america anymore folks when i was I carried my 22 rifle from classroom to classroom. And nobody thought twice about it. What's comical about this? And now you've got, well, part of it is- You drive past the gun. You drive the gun in your car, you're gonna get a felony conviction? What we have is a situation where we're gonna end up having to fight to take back our country. We're gonna have to think appropriately. Now, again, I cannot stress enough, spare parts, extra magazines, ammunition. But ammunition is a catch-as-catch-can thing now. It's not like it used to be. It's changed dramatically. reason why the guns don't kill the people the bullets do that'll be their new screen oh yeah well actually we already had this happen Sarah Brady made the comment and now we've had Switzerland by the way most people don't know this we've have touched this on a test on this several times but in Switzerland through the lesser of their houses a bunch of feminists slash quadriplegic homosexual aliens uh... yes to molyneux with eskimo lesbians are women in comfortable shoes that way here that we see that we cover all of the best of the politically correct uh... benefit packages you see if you've been quite a political sexual lesbian was being sent to any way these characters past a brand new shim and in the home in switzerland so all these people have automatic weapons the national defense forces all there but they're supposed to take all their ammunition handed over to the government for special storage well this is the very thing that hang on control incorporated is talked about the u n has been pushing the u n is our enemy they plan on murdering a whole lot of people anybody who is supporting the united nations it's in this country is an enemy of the american people they must be perceived as such if you have some idiot down the street who's pushing for the u.n. and hates anybody and everybody who's talking about american sovereignty because typically they do you remember who those people are because when the time comes we're going to deport their hind end out of here they're not going to be sitting around anymore and i'm sorry that that's just flat out treason because our constitution bill of rights or sacred documents to us cheaper when you point are Their logic is that they're going to be on the top of the feeding trough and all of us are going to be the peasants underneath them. Instead, we're going to deport their hind end, let their sorry butts end up overseas, let's see how well the rest of their little globalist buddies take care of them. I know it will happen to them. You know what, they'll be screaming, I have a right to be back in America. No you don't, you didn't want America in the first place. You wanted a global plantation. What was the country in Africa that Abraham Lincoln purchased? that's right like very a song like an excellent for two years old and i think that's a great idea it's not good to know that i mean i mean you know that now the point is in the mean in the meantime for all the people worried about all the high-tech etcetera mukbok point something out like the microwave technology on one hand one of the reason most of the microchip technology susceptible because it's unshielded shielding is as simple as conventional steel sheet metal whatever uh... example We went from steel pots to Kevlar helmets. Now one of the reasons metal is not as desirable on the battlefield, depending on what technology you're using, is a ground surveillance radar metal pings. Okay, no matter what. So because metal is not naturally occurring in the environment, any metal ping that you get with ground surveillance radar is a plus-plus for identifying forces on the ground. But most forces aren't using ground surveillance radars the way that they were in the 60s and 70s to a greater degree. Yeah, they've gone over other technologies. Now on the other hand, yep, now they don't have the steel pots in place. So the microwave technology, now that everybody's gone to plastic, the microwave technology, people are now more susceptible because they have no shielding. That's why when they're talking about affecting humans, just a conventional steel helmet protects from most of the issues with regard to microwave that you're going to have to deal with. Again, I'll have to put an ole- Well, if we have the steel pot, we don't need the aluminum foil beanie, but that will work. The point is, if you want to test the concept of this out, let's take a junk microwave, plug it in, take your favorite stainless steel bowl, flip it upside down, stick it in the microwave, turn the microwave on for a minute and see what happens. Well, it's not good for the microwave, is it? Well, it's not good for the microwave, is it? Not good for the microwave, is it? OK. So that basically is a simple and minimal demonstration of why it is that the metal objects are rather desirable for countering a lot of this nonsense that they've plugged in. Their logic is, you're not supposed to think this through. Okay, what we're pointing out is that there are solutions, there are defensive technology. Now again, like anything else, if you're a point blank range in the middle of the epicenter of whatever it is, well, chances are it's going to hurt a lot and you're going to get hurt. Congratulations, you're on the battlefield, that's how things work. The idea is that the perfect battlefield doesn't exist for either side. Bullets are flying, artillery rounds are flying, anti-tank rounds are flying, grenades are going everywhere, flames are flying in all directions, not the Hollywood type BS you saw. I watched this movie the other day and I'm watching little Japanese mortars, Tom, in nuclear devices, the only way to describe it. Little 60 millimeter, little, little, what they call the knee mortar, guys it was nothing more than a grenade launcher, okay? A grenade thrower. Not very fancy, not real, exciting to see when it goes off. But when Hollywood gets through with it, boy, it's like you're dropping napalm. Oh yeah. Anyway, the reality is far different. We need to have you squared away. When you get to the gun shows this weekend, we need to clear out those shows of all the ammunition. Time worth the top of the hour. As always, God bless the Republic. That's in the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We are on the march and we are fighting their ankles every inch of the way. That's right. Between the wiener dogs and the dust bunnies, we'll get to that one. Oh, the dust bunnies, the wiener dogs, and don't forget our brothers, the shark. That's right, because they will feed well. Thank you, Tom. The Bill of Rights protects every American's God-given right to keep and bear arms. Now that right is being seriously undermined as legally registered rifles are being confiscated in some parts of our country. If we're not careful, we may find ourselves with no right to own guns. And that's where Gun Owners of America comes in. 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