February 13, 2008
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Mark Koernke discussed ammunition supply issues and reloading techniques on Weapons Wednesday, covering Indian and international surplus ammunition quality control, the importance of reloading presses and spare parts for AR-15s, and ammunition sourcing at gun shows. Caller Alfie provided detailed updates on an upcoming April training meet in Oklahoma featuring free classes on communications, weapons maintenance, medical training, and preparedness, with emphasis on team coordination and resource sharing. The show also addressed AR-15 ammunition compatibility, spare parts procurement, and magazine acquisition strategies for listeners.
- weapons wednesday
- ammunition supply
- reloading
- ar-15
- spare parts
- gun shows
- preparedness training
- communications
- militia training
- surplus ammunition
- ammunition quality control
- extractors
- firing pins
- oklahoma meet
- self-sufficiency
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat and, speaking low to me, he said, we fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free. and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the supreme law of the land, preserve our great Republic and eat God-given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each god-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Dill the Land of the Free. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories south, southwest, east, and north. On We The People Radio Network, wtprn.com, that's We The People Radio Network. We're also on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com. And running AM&FM major stations, AM&FM micro stations, CV base stations, and alternate technology east and west of the weapons Wednesday and on. far as we can see we can we command and can respond to any threat within our perimeter well today being weapons once they get your pen and paper because we're going to be covering a lot of different subjects uh... and of course some unique ideas to hopefully give you some more solutions to some of the problems that we're seeing out here right now uh... today being weapons wednesday first of all we know ammunition is in short supply or at least is being intentionally shorted the country, we're also seeing something that we have not seen in quite some time, and that's some really oddball ammunitions in the US, since we have not seen a whole bunch of Indian military surplus in the past. You know, from India, I mean, I say, we have had some rifles from Peshawar, we have had some rifles from the northern provinces, we have had some rifles from many other parts of India, to include 410 muskets on the British SMLE kit, quantity of Mark IV. this ponderance of extra anything because they have a very large population just like China. In fact, they're the counter punch to China in many ways in Asia and South Asia. So what's happening is this. Now, a lot of people had a lot of questions about the 308 slash 762 by 51 NATO ammunition and also the 2234 in ammunition. Well, let's think about something here first of all. 762 by 51 NATO ammunition is laid to a specific spec. There are differences in the point of impact and perhaps what's considered battle site zero for some of the rifles in Asia. Everybody tries to maintain the same point of impact and the same standard with regard to the basic performance of the projectile and the case itself. One of the reasons? Well, obviously they want to try and market ammunition to the countries. Also, they're utilizing the same basic weapon systems, so they need to have integrity with regard to ammunition production. Now that's where sometimes it ends. The guidelines may be one thing, but remember that if you get into countries that have a little more corruption or government problems, or their standards are different, then you will see a different standard maintained with regard to consistency in components for anything they build. Not just ammunition, it can be cars, it can be widgets, it can be whatever. Ammunition, the standards are not what you would expect from Lake City Armory. I'm sorry, they're not US military standards specs. have to understand accordingly, you need to test the ammunition in your specific rifle, in your specific firearm. Get a handgun or rifle, or even if it's shotgun ammunition. Now, most of the European stuff is pretty consistent. There are some oddball lots here and there, and of course, they do dump it on us Americans rather than worry about it sitting on the shelf overseas. We know that. We've seen Romanian, we've seen Bosnian, we've seen Lithuanian. We have seen now Indian, we have seen Malaysian, which by the way is mostly Winchester. Aguela, which is by the way Remington of Mexico, and we have a number of other manufacturers from all points of the compass too numerous to mention. Okay? It means if you have a specific firearm and you have questions about the ammunition, try to look through the different cartridge books that are out there. This is why I need to collect a database to see if you can identify or get or round up any information on performance tests that have already been done. that's not that hard contrary to what you might think. In fact, there's a whole plethora of veritable cornucopia of resources available in terms of written information on all types of ammo. Okay? With that being the case, you've got to remember that there are different periods of time, too, when ammunition has been produced to certain standards. So, for instance, we're looking at this Indian surplus, right, Don? Yes. Well, we would want to first know what the production year was, right? little newer probably from let's say if we're lucky the 60s or maybe the 70s although yep there's some I'll tell you what now that sounds strange people want to antique ammunition which is true it is but you know what's amazing is I have been firing for instance for many years in fact back to the 70s I've been using ammunition that was built built for Germany in 1933 or for Poland Polish 8 millimeter miles or 1933 production and you know what I have it's very reliable even on the shelf for half a century and I've never had a misfire. I can say that with confidence with a standard K98, standard Polish knockoffs for the K98, German K98s and even Czech K98s. I've tested it and actually shot it in many different rifles that I've owned over the years and the ammunition, still a large stockpile of available that's sitting in another location far away. It's a brass wash case. Nothing fancy, copper jacket, bullet, FMJ 200 grain, and the stuff works first time every time. Well, it's over 50 years old. Now, does that mean that the newer stuff is necessarily going to be up to the same stuff? Well, to be quite honest, I think that newer is not better because of all the other things we've seen with the politics of trying to funk up the ammunition. Funk as in F-U-N-K, guys. Funk up. not the other word, okay? As in funky, as in doing strange things that intentionally like the tagaments or trying to put a lifespan on the ammunition to restrict it so that they can, it dissolves on the shelf, so to speak. The problem with that idea is what happens if you don't use it and your own troops get it? Now the pencil pushers and the control freaks, they don't mind because they're not the ones out there on the battlefield pulling the trigger that find that the discharge, the cartridge, it doesn't discharge. You on the other hand might be the one on the receiving end of that in the military and be in the wrong place at a very wrong time, okay? So if we have to deal with this, here's a consideration. Remember, as long as it's cheap enough, if they're charging us $500 for a 500 round case of Indian surplus, so that's just plain wrong. Okay, we know what to do is gouging. And that's to be expected in this preliminary for a war in the war. If you think it's bad now, wait and see how the profiteers try to screw America and milk the money out of it when war starts here. Oh my goodness. Oh God, people, it's just like any other situation. It is true that we cleared out the bargain basements of every arsenal in Europe in the 1770s during the Revolutionary War. We also did it again in the Civil War. But the problem is that we didn't necessarily play bargain basement prices, you see, because they figured, oh well, hey, they have it or they got none. So that's why we've been promoting everybody to get into reloading. Even if they give you the sabotage junk stuff, remember the case is the issue. The basic component, the case, is most critical. Primers are second. Obviously propellant is an issue in parallel with primers, but it's amazing what you can do with improvised propellants or by manufacturing your own. Contrary to what you think, propellants can actually be produced and be produced in good quantity. Bullets can be cast. There are many tricks with regard to making semi-jacketed or full-jacketed projectiles from a number of different materials without necessarily going to super high-tech crop expansion technology like you see today with all the stamping processes that are done. But if you set up a little production line, it's amazing how much you can get done and how fast. There's where the issue is. We need you people to be looking at reloading presses. you've got a budget to deal with i know that you've got a continue to pay the rent you gotta try and make sure you keep car on the road you gotta make sure the medical bills are paid i know all of that so again you have to be tailored this to your to your budget there are inexpensive we presses out there there about thirty to fifty dollars no they're not top of the line but they are serviceable they will work they will get the job done no don't go to the complicated presses don't go to the turret presses go to the O presses or if you have to the C press. The O presses are very simple. They're a lever type system. Don, anybody can run them. Oh yeah. Okay, so the cool thing is that if you get three or four of these single stage presses together between you, you've got a small production facility. Now let's say we get some of this goofy ammunition, we find out that it's malfunctioning. In other words, they've intentionally sent us some stuff that isn't working quite right. Well, their mistake, not necessarily ours, because you give me a loaded, you give me a case for the primer. Okay, I pull the bullet, I dump all of the common powder. We reservoir the common powder, which I offer is from the same projectile, from the same bullet, same cartridge case. Then we spec out the proper weight for the powder. We then reintroduce the powder into the unloaded case, use the bullet and properly seat it. consistency and we have proper dimension because remember before we put the powder back in we resize the case to ensure that we have proper dimensions in both length and girth. Okay all the dimensions are met utilizing the dies that we have available for that particular chambering. See how this works? Yes, people are going, well, it's a lot of work. Now, it's not that much work. And think about it this way. You're bringing up your quality control standards to the extreme. You can also, if need be, if you consider the powder, for instance, to be in question. You can dump that powder off to the side, hold it in reserve, and switch to another powder to reload with. This is, again, disassembling and reassembling the existing cases if we consider them to be compromised. Now, the old primer, the old powder, we'll experiment with that and see where it may be of use in some other type of loading. Where it may not be as critical, but it'll be desirable for improvised munitions. It can be used for larger projectile casings combined with black powder. Create an aggregate powder that will ensure that you get all the oomph out of the less desirable or less reliable powder if it's there. Improvise, adapt, and overcome. Understand the technology is not that complicated. What you have to do is start thinking about the idea that you've got to continue to fight with what you've got. The other thing here is, again, projectiles. Now, I cannot stress enough for all of you listening, if you're into reloading already, those of you that are listening, make sure that you get a bullet casting mold for all the basic calibers that you're running. I know that your 223 is supposed to be using an FMJ because it has a gas port and you don't have to tell me about the M14, the FAL of the G3. But what we can do is with that bullet mold we have the basis for some other improvised work that can be done to create a semi or demi jacketed bullet that will not leave any bullet swaging in the uh, uh, in the uh, in the uh, gas port. While here at the music we're gonna go to break. This is Weapons Wednesday. It is the Intel Report first hour. You got down on Mark. We'll be back in about three minutes. 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It takes a little longer to hook up some days not healthy Andrew, we got you. Go ahead. I've got the engine. Go ahead and give all the information out again. Where's it located? What's the date and time again? It's exit 50 off of I-71. The facility again is? Is it an events building or is it a fairground? Oh, okay. So it's a common building. Anybody in the area should be able to find it if they have to hunt it down. What town is it again? So everybody else listening Wilmington, Ohio. If you can, get in there. Usually there's some pretty decent stuff. But the way things are going, get in there early the first day. Be in there when the doors open up. Walk in, check things out. But one thing, everybody sent me email. You know what, guys? Everybody listening. I understand what's been happening here. People are used to the idea of going through the show, checking stuff out, coming back up and going back to the show and picking the stuff up once they get a mental list of what's there. Ammunition is not working like that. A lot of the guys going through the show first thing go all the way to the end figure, oh that guy had a pretty good price. They go back to the first two or three rows or whatever row it is. It's gone. One guy comes in by 6,000 rounds. One guy comes in by 5,000 rounds. One guy comes in, buys all of it. So you got to be ready for that. What you might want to do is take a buddy, a team system together. uh... three three four guys and if you see some ammunition and you got a walkie talkies or something take with you please do this is really big shows all the time to do is uh... we somebody with the animal if it looks like it's starting to go because there's a whole bunch of people swan else for men then it's the job of the spotter to decide how much it is between the team they wanted to pick up and to grab it before it all disappears so keep that in mind when you come in first thing i know how it is there was used to have to be able to shop a little bit you still want to do that but you gotta work as a team to get it done now because if not you might end up not getting any i've even had this happen at the uh... ham fest though too because on their day uh... guy had to pallets of uh... solar panels ten dollars apiece and they were all self-contained a rubber armored they were designed to be portable and i figured out all pick one up when i uh... you know get a chance coming back to you will be that long right So I go down, we go down to the end of the aisle, which, the end of the hallway, because the Dayton hand fess is spread all over the place, turn around and come back. Just in the time that it took for us to walk 180 feet and turn around and come back, the two pallets were gone and only the sample was left. That's what I bought. And the pallets were as tall as I am and each one of the solar panels was only about six inches by a foot and a half by a half inch thick. So you figure out how many were on the pallet. Know what I mean? Just people walked in and swarmed it and just gone. so the same is true with ammunition right now. Andrew, are you going to be able to make that show? Well, if you can, get down there. I'll tell you what, it'd be nice if you could give us a follow-up report on Monday about it. And that's Wilmington, Ohio. Wilmington, Kentucky. Wilmington, Ohio. Does me exit one more time? Anything else exciting going on in your neck of the woods? I just wanted to ask a question to our archive program. I have, in fact, they're going to be here in about another 15 minutes. What type did you need? Did you need US or did you need, you want the US with the US shell? Well they're cheap right now. I'll tell you how many pairs did you need? They're cheap. Okay, let me put this way. You'll be able to afford them. Trust. You need three pairs for yourself, three replacement wool liners and say one shell. Okay, that's good. I'll put them off the side for you. How about you? She said something else about. We have those on occasion. The gloves, right now because of these wars and because of other things going on, two things have dried up dramatically. Socks, just simply because, think about it, troops drop them all the time, they wear out because they're working with them. And so all these militaries, they're really consuming on the render revolution market all of the gloves and mittens and all of the socks. I made a deal on some socks here last week and I do have some gloves. Did you want leather gloves or did you want the leather mittens? like a leather glove, a regular military leather glove, a D3A or a D3A US military. We can get some, but I'm going to have to search around to see what's in the system again. So I'll let you know about that because I sometimes have them, but I don't have any in good quantity for the moment. I've got glove liners, but I don't have gloves. Well, let me see what I can find. There's supposed to be another shipment coming in. If oil sales, I'm going to go to another company that I've dealt with for about three decades that's always specialized in his gloves and hats. And they're the importers and also the manufacturers. So if need be, we're going to have to go that far. But I can't buy surplus because obviously we can get a great price when we do thousands. And that's where we've been headed with everything. Don kind of knows. Don, you've got some of those nice long johns right now. Oh, the listing that's got a pair is wearing them. Actually, what's funny, they don't just fall apart with the first washing, do they? Like the Chinese stuff. It's good quality equipment. In fact, here's what's interesting is most of the long johns we got are older than the men wearing them by twice their age. A lot of those were 1933, 1937, 1941, and 1944. And you wouldn't know it to look at them. Well, they've been stored well. In fact, I'm wearing a pair right now. And they're older than I am too, guys. So Andrew, I'll do what I can, okay? No, that's okay. Go ahead, Joe. We might have... I'll have to go right ahead. I could hear you guys. I just couldn't get my phone to work, so I switched lines. We'll just try it from here. We'll wait until after the break. Martin, let's go ahead and I'll just take a... I'll follow you after the break. And so, you stay right there where you are, Alfie, and you got Don and Mark. This is the intel report. 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Whether you call or visit the website at GunPartSky.com, be sure to mention WTPRN to get an additional 10% discount off their already low, low prices. We have Alfie on the line and rather than interrupt you, I had to cut you off so it's free reign here. Well here we go. First of all, big kudos to Cordy. She's got my updates up already for the April meet that I put out this morning. Please check the website www.thegrid.com. She's got it all up there. She did a great job. I have to really give her a big flap on the back because I'm telling you that's a lot of weight off my shoulders to know everybody can go look and see what's going to go on. One of the updates on there talks about some showers. We did get a range to have showers available at a local truck. I charge you five bucks, but That's about the best we could do for you. I cannot shower 30 or 40 people here a day Again, this is a military op and I've spent 16 plus days in the desert trading for desert storm hour one day We went to the water buffalo and we did the best we could but for those that need to Get a shower everyone Meanwhile, that ability will be there. We can show you how to get the trucks off. It's not that far away. It's going to be about a 35-minute round trip. But they have approved. All you've got to do is tell them at the cashier when you come in what you're going to do. And they'll set you up, just bring pals, whatever else you need to take care of yourself. Second thing on the list, we did go ahead and secure the bodies, and some other sanitation exercises also. This is going to be a hands-on meet. Time is getting real short folks. I wish we could get this meet going. As everybody knows, they're working on some ammo bands in Illinois. Things are getting real tight. We're going to have to get as many people up on board and get them trained as fast as possible. The big priority meet, we've got some instructors, some of the best from around the country here to teach everybody everything from communications to what we're going to go over. Micro broadcasting, wind generators, things that have to do with medical and Most anything that has to do with things I mentioned in there is if you're proficient with a specific arm We're gonna call on you you so that we can show her how to break those weapons down put them back together Get them clean do the proper maintenance on them so that everybody's up to speed with all the different weapons again This is very important. Everybody's gonna have their specific weapon But as Marcus mentioned many times there's gonna be other weapons available sooner We need to know how to operate every single weapons at a moment notice and uh... we're going to rely on the other people here to put that so looking at uh... walk me uh... we've been talking to some people they uh... are looking for items anybody coming if you've got extra stop anything that you want to get rid of very one of fell or you have uh... access to stuff that uh... we could use the supply and resupply somebody people brit type of so that everybody can get together and have some type of accessibility to that equipment. We're not going to have anything for sale here. A lot of people have asked me that. Only thing for sale at this point will be Cordy's book, Survive and Thrive, a very good book, something to help her so that she can make enough money to get back. She's a little short on funds, just the same as everybody else. And as I told you, nobody's getting paid for this. These classes would cost you upwards of $1,000 for the combination of classes we're having. The classes are free. And be prepared to, we're going to have to stay on schedule. There's going to be some long days. We're going to, so we can get breakfast in and get the morning meats in so that we can arrange the schedule for the day. We're going to take a lot of time with these classes. So we're going to have to have everybody's cooperation. So there's also, there's a gun show here in April on about this before. This is one of the largest gun shows in the nation, held in Tulsa. We're going to take an opportunity to go to that if everybody wants to. We'll take a day off from class if we have to. Tulsa, anything that you want, we'll be there. Like Mark said, the first thing we're going to hit is going to be the ammo. My buddy and I know exactly where to go to get the ammo, where the best prices are, and where those stands will be. And on those, if we have time, we could spend some more time going around and looking for other deals that the ammo is going to be one of our priorities as Marcus stated and we're going to continue with that endeavor. The Commo 8 update is also on the website that Corey put up again off the grid girls. He is one of the best in the communications business, been a ham radio operator since he's in does everything off the top of his head. He's got a long list of things for everybody. We'll go over it. everything and anything to do with communications and we'll also have radio licensing. So if you're thinking about getting your ham radio license, this is the guy that can teach you everything you need to know in a couple of days so that you can take your ham radio exam for the meet. I think that's about it. I want everybody just to make sure you go to the website, offthegridgirls.com. Keep checking there for more updates. We'll have some more as things develop. Things are moving along here. We're getting some other things ready. The biggest problem I think we're going to have is the extent of people meal preparation is going to take quite a bit of time. Everybody's going to have to rotate through that area all work together to make this happen. There's a lot of class time here and in order for all classes to be accomplished, everybody's going to have to tip in. As Marcus said many times, many hands make the light work. If we all work together, this can be accomplished and we will get everything accomplished. We will adapt. We will overcome and we will complete the mission every day. That is the process. The training is Fire One while you are here. Don't forget that. If we all work together, we will get everything complete. Now the other thing too, for our friends that are listening that are going to be participating, I would ask if you could. It doesn't cost much. Go to the GP stores or any of the bulk food stores. Pick up a six one gallon case of something. Corn, peas, beans, doesn't matter what it is. you bring it along, you drop it off, and that's part of the, the, uh, it's, Alfie's not asking for a fee. I'm going to recommend this because this is a policy we've always had. You at least bring, you know, like we set a standard at our meetings. Everybody, we tell them either bring a one gallon can of something or bring a dollar set, dollar amount of something. Uh, it can be a one gallon can of dollar store peas. Usually we get them down here for actually a dollar nine or whatever. It can be plums. It could be whatever you find that's cheap. at the bulk foodsters that you can pick a couple gallon cans of and bring with you. If everybody does that, it bolsters the reserves and again those number 10 cans are quick to open up, easy to throw in the bucket, easy to cook, easy to heat up and allow for quick serving too because again everybody's just going to ration the stuff out right there. You got the KP team, that's what their job is and everybody rotates into that job to help out. at least to assist with all of the extraneous stuff, the cook, well, too many cooks spoil the brew, so we don't need 15 cooks. We need one cook with a magic finger in the command, and in the command position, and the rest will get done. That's how it works. So with everything that we participate in the field, everybody intercooperates, we get everything done faster. I'll be sending stuff out that way right away through the mail, so there's gonna be material already heading out to Oklahoma. specifically for this mission and just to have other things on hand for our friends that show up so they can take a look at some of what it is we've been putting together at this end. Alfie, we're going to do all we can to help you there. For any of our friends that are listening, if they've got other allies that they're going to be bringing along, get them organized, get them squared away, here's a chance for everybody to work as a team to actually train together to work your knowledge back with them to their teams or to their respective units and utilize it to educate even more people. This is going to be a plus plus engagement, isn't it? Yes, I can't see anything negative that's going to come out of this. You know, the response has been overwhelming. I really appreciate everybody that's making the effort to get here. Make sure that you know what you're doing when you leave. I will guarantee that. They are going to be here for you. They are going to train a couple of days. Whether you can soak knowledge up, you're going to get here. That's going to be up to you. But you're going to be overwhelmed with the amount of knowledge ability of the teachers to teach that knowledge so you ready when you hit the door we're going to take off running Now another thing, notepads, pens, paper, make sure you've got some administrative support technology with you. That's all else fails, go to the dollar store guys. Everything you need is going to sit there, it's all throw away, you're not going to cry if you lose it. You take it in, you use it for the mission, and then you leave it with the instructor to bolster up the resources of the classroom. See how that works, whatever you don't use, you leave behind, you don't transport a second time. Thank you Alfie. Thank you Mark and got it checked on the way to you. We're going to take our break here Don. Mark, Intel Report back in three. People who use Cartavite know about the pollutants in our body and want them out. For over five years, Cartavite has proven itself time-tested. 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Lighting the fires of liberty with your host Michael Badnarik from 7am to 9am central Monday through Friday only on We The People Radio Network Poker Face.com or that's the band Poker Face go to PokerFace.com under that music Started getting into guns last so I'm gonna need a little guidance. Bought a AR-15 from Quarz, the .223 isn't to get the .556 NATO no problem uh... these stand by five six nato ammunition is available the problem well the problem is it's it's certainly uh... allowable the problem is accessibility as far as cost of ammunition because everybody you know a that military has been consuming it they've been blocking a lot from uh... the public's inventory and everybody's buying it up new to this world brings up is it possible to it is not the show yet the biggest promise that now remember anything that pretty much air fifteen uh... you will will digest any two to three round that's out there any two to three loading was put that way uh... there's nothing you're going to throw it that really going to be a problem except for as we've talked we've talked about this on the way on the air quite extensively the steel case ammunition is hard on the extractor process others to reasons is we've got a little bit of steel it is it's called the fusion between the chamber and the uh... steel case happens is the extractors were designed to work with a particular configuration of ammunition utilizing a brass case which actually gives it won't lock into the chamber itself it actually compressed to a degree but it won't distort. The steel casing has a tendency to create because of the crystal structure of the metals, specifically of the steel case, it'll create some locking or resistance and extraction and what happens is the AR-15's extractor is not as strong as it is, say, on the AK-47 or many of the other heavier battle rifles. It's just the nature of the engineering of the design. So if it's a brass case and military produced, it's going to work just fine. If it's Remington or Winchester, it's going to work just fine. With steel-case ammunition, it's a toss-up because it's purely a matter of quality control on the part of the manufacturer with that ammunition. The Russians are mostly what's coming in. If you do have an AR-15, one of the best solutions extra extractors and buy extra firing pins right off the bat and keep them the buttstock here have you got a standard AR-15 with a buttstock trap for a clean kit? Yes I do. Okay well in the cleaning kit area what I would do is you pick up others here's the easiest way to do it if you go to the gun shows you will find there's a nice little series of card sets I don't know what the prices are right now on them but they have all the little pins all the springs they usually have the firing pin extractor buffer, little buffer pad, little buffer tabs, look like little pieces of pencil lead but they're colored plastic. All these parts will be on a card that will be $11 to $17 per card. Every part you need. Now what you're going to have to do is be careful. But you want to take them out of that card. You want to get a little medicine bottle or actually a little plastic cap bottle. So there's a number of different types at the dollar store or if you look around at some of these resale shops. And what you do is you can actually put them into that container with a little bit of oil. That's one option. Just like we used to do with the oil bottles that are actually made for storage in the butt stocks. You can also grease them up and wrap them up. That's an option too. But you carry the extra extractors on board with the rifle, along with the small pins, parts and assemblies, and an extra firing pin. And they're right there with the rifle. If something happens where there's a malfunction, you have them on the weapon where they're needed. So I would highly recommend if you already have the rifle to make a point of getting that spare part set right away. There's two different cards at least. One has most of the minor pins and has the extractor and firing pin. The other one is a card that has the firing pin, the extractor, and every pin in the spring, minor and major, that goes on the AR-15 rifle. Priority for you if you don't have them. Okay, now the other thing, more magazines. everybody out there listening you never have enough mags if you really want a minimum twenty two mags minimum for the rifle now that means you just keep buying them as you can don't have to buy them all at once I know nobody's made out of money right now however if you go to for instance CenterfireSystems.com they have a pretty good prices on magazines right now there's a number of other companies you can check out but CenterfireSystems.com is one site their number is 1-800-950 1-231. That's 1-800-950-1231. Now I go with 20 rounders or 30 round magazines. 20 rounders will work just fine. You don't necessarily need a 30 rounder. The 20s are very reliable. Just keep collecting mags until you at least get to that 22 mark and add to them. Now ammunition is going to be the bugger and you're up here in Michigan. At the shows, there might be, oh I think there might even be, you're going to have to check this. You have the Mason Fairgrounds. There may be a gun show coming up at Mason. Now if you go to the Mason Gun Show, and it is available this weekend, and it might be, I think it might be this weekend, coming up in the next three days, call up to the Fairgrounds first. You have to do a little searching there. You might want to, you might be able to punch it in through the internet. What you want to do, there's a couple of ammo dealers. One gentleman is selling off what he has left. uh... in two to three thirty russian and three oh eight nato he's rekind of retiring we're doing he's selling the stuff he's put away he may be there this show if he is when you come in the main doors go to the right they'll be all the way to the far eastern wall right around from where the concession stands are or where the confession of a solo account things like that you want to look around the show real quick but go right over there because i know that that's where you normally set up Now if you get there, he's got 223 standard ball in stripper clips in the bandoliers. Price is going to vary, but let me just put it this way. Keep buying it as you can until you fill up a couple ammo cans at least. You may not be able to afford a whole thousand rounds, but if you can afford to keep picking up a few bandoliers at a time, they'll be doing pretty good. Now I can't guarantee he's going to be there because he's been going to other gun shows and he might be sold out, but he's your first best bet with regard to the shows here in Michigan for the moment. I've heard a couple people in the past, Lake City, what is the big... Well, Lake City, the price is huge, but that's what I'm saying. There is some ammunition available. It may be British. At the show, you might find some British 223 in brass. Lake City is US military arsenal manufactured, boxer primed, non-corrosive. It has what's called a heat annealed case. Typically, we'll be carrying anything from a 55 grain bullet up to a 70 or 72 grain, depending on your... There are a number of different loads in between, depending on your manufacturer. but uh... most common you're finally around is uh... fifty five-grain u.s. military ball from the seventies and eighties and from the nineties uh... winchester of course is another option and there are many other manufacturers that are u.s. made that have got have made good animal the wolf ammunition is steel case for damn prime supposed to be non corrosive have the same projectile also we've got to pull some of the bullets and i have done that recently to see if they're using a Most of them should be using a C or a boat tail, but they might even be still use a Pitzer bullet. That would depend on what year the ammunition was made. The Russians don't throw anything away. They'll use it up and just throw it in with everything else. And that's not a problem because the stuff will perform as well. Different load. It'll just be a different projectile in many cases. You need to inspect the ammunition, take a look at it. It's probably going to be clean. But again, the problem we've had is that the steel case ammunition may not have perfect, you know, again, because of speed and production, I don't know what the excuse is. We've been having some problem with it, but not, you know, again, not to the point where I throw the ammo out. I would just try to get the brass case non-corrosive, boxer primed, or even if it's per damn primed, I'd go that way first if you can. You don't have to go match grade, all you need is field grade ammunition. What you want to do is watch for some standard US military ball. If it's British, that's fine. If it's a couple others that are out there right now, but they're pricey. So the biggest thing is looking for the most bang for the buck. Obviously there is, you can buy more wolf than anything else. But wolf is going to be an issue, which is why, again, if you're going to have to shoot wolf ammunition, notice I'm saying half, because we've had a lot of discussions on this both on the air and off the air. America's going to end up having to use every shot. So the steel case wolf ammunition is going to end up being used in our rifles. We're just going to end up having to use it. How it affects our supply system and our weapon systems, how prepared we are before that happens. And that's why the first thing you'll notice I told you to do if you have an AR-15 firing pins, extractors, and ejectors. If there is, no matter what ammunition you have to use, if there is a malfunction, you're going to be able to replace the parts in the field. You're going to be able to actually rework the weapon now. My biggest problem there is it's a bugger because chances are if you're pulling the trigger and you're using the rifle, you're in the middle of a combat situation. So catastrophic failure like that or, you know, extractor failure is going to be a serious issue for anybody, which comes down to another point. Try to have a handgun on hand. Okay, your pick doesn't have to be anything fancy. But remember, if you have a major malfunction with a firearm, a personal handgun, a personal hand cannon comes in awfully handy so you can continue to function. And at least you're doing something other than using harsh language. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Okay. If I could reflect back on your reloading. I'll tell you what. The case is only good for 10 refills and then you discard them. Oh no, actually depending on, first of all, you don't want to max them. What we want to do is continue to load with an average load. Typically you can reload many times over. It's where people try to max load that they stress the cases out and you see fracturing, see failures. So if that's a matter of staying within normal, sound good Jeff? Yep, thank you very much. 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