January 25, 2008
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Mark Koernke and co-host Tom discussed firearms training, ammunition selection, and preparedness with multiple callers. Topics included learning marksmanship through online videos, recommended calibers (.308, .223, .30-06, 5.45x39), the M1 Garand and M1 carbine, hunting rifles for defensive use, High Point firearms reliability, and acquiring ammunition and equipment. The show also covered Wesley Snipes' ongoing tax case against the IRS, with discussion of the IRS as a private corporation and litigation strategies. Callers from Florida, California, and other areas sought advice on weapons selection, networking with militia groups, and preparedness.
- firearms training
- marksmanship
- ammunition
- .308
- .223
- .30-06
- m1 garand
- m1 carbine
- ak-47
- high point
- preparedness
- wesley snipes
- irs
- tax resistance
- militia
- youtube videos
- reloading
- molle gear
- ron paul
- second amendment
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free. and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedom for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the midst for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God-given right, we only watched him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, dill the land of the free? One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, north, and northeast. You are listening to us on We the People Radio Network at wtprn.com. That's We the People Radio Network. We're also on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com. AM and FM major stations, AM and FM micro stations, CV based stations, and UltraNet technologies east and west of the Mississippi. Say hi especially to our friends in eastern Ohio, some of the big boomer stations there, also in the Virginias, West Virginia, and Virginia itself, along with Pennsylvania and the Carolinas, and places across the United States. Also say hi to our friends overseas, I always love this, and to our listeners in Bangladesh. We actually have listeners in Bangladesh and I want to say hi because they're loyal listeners. They hook up every day and listen to this program. So I want to say thank you guys. I appreciate the fact that you do plug in and listen. So obviously we have something to say to someone and people get a feel for what's happening here in the US. So anyway, a bunch of stuff going on. But we have Eric, we have Darren, we have Steve, and we have of course Tom here with us. Tom from Brooklyn and what we're going to do is we're going to get back to Eric because he started up just at the end of the program. We got him first hour. We got him in there. Eric, are you there? I still am. Here we are. Sir, go ahead, please. Okay. Well, like I said, and when I was 18, I'm up against it. If I want to go the legal route, state my second term. I heard your show back in November by the people used by the New World, O'Harmus and UN troops and get out of my neighborhood and just invade our enemy and blew out. What kind of encouragement, what kind of Well, the best...okay, two things. Number one, audio video instruction is still an excellent way to deal with acquiring experience without direct hands-on application. Remember, that's basically what a classroom instructor is doing. He's providing you with an audio direction while demonstrating physically a specific action before he gives you a hands-on opportunity to perform a task. There's a lot of videos out there on basic marksmanship you can go through. In fact, to be quite honest, we have a tool now and it's ridiculous because it's absolutely free. Go to YouTube and go through a lot of the ARMS videos that are there. There's a lot of stuff. It's just kids playing on. I won't say kids because they're guys our age and there's guys older and there's guys younger. And there's some young men there that are kids by my standard because my children are, you know, in their 20s. There's a lot of different people out there that are experiencing all the weapons that you could possibly imagine without you having to touch them. The most important is that some of them, not all, but many of them, or some, have tried to give an instructional course on the basic performance of the weapon itself. I would recommend that you take the time and go through pretty much all of those videos to at least review all of the systems that are out there to include even the antique stuff that's being used. The reason I say that is because even if it's something that you wouldn't necessarily buy over the counter, American soldiers have been sticky fingers for as long as they have been going overseas. we have carried back millions of and that's not an exaggeration we carried back the kitchen sink hell we carried back here hitler's uh... uh... kitchen faucets okay and every weapon in between up to and including any tank weapons submachine guns belt-fed machine guns rifles pistols so firing a might be another uh... another thing well the thing is that you know the whole point is is that the gentleman is talking about is very very civil liberties and state and strength of the law the bodies and transport all the weapons in purpose. Well, the only thing here though, hold on a second, before we go any farther, I'm laying groundwork for a reason, is that the most important thing is this, there's a vast amount of technical knowledge out there. You can take advantage of it, and I'd recommend doing it anyway, because, even no matter what, you should do this first, because we have the resources out there. Now, from the physical end, what Tom's talking about, that's one of the ways to deal with the issue, of course. Let's put it this way. You don't have to have him buy something for you as you're giving somebody money. We don't want to hear about that. But if you have somebody who's a reliable ally, they can buy two weapons for themselves. That's what I'm talking about, Mark. Yeah, exactly. You know, in other words, you don't even have to, you know, in other words, you know, maybe it'd be nice for them to set aside knowing that there'll be people showing up at the doorstep that are reliable, perhaps might even be you. You never know if you get my drift. The way to deal with it is, yes, there are allies that can have the stuff sitting on the shelf it's not going to be a complication for you personally let me give an example okay both tom myself have handled virtually and and this not exaggeration tens or hundreds of thousands of arms Yeah, a couple at least, you know what I mean? I fired more rounds than I care to even count. Government Uncle Samuel, when I was a pistol, I was a competition shooter. They give you three cases of 500 rounds and shoot it as quick as you could so they could turn around and give you three more cases, 500 rounds per case, 45, plus as much 22 as I could possibly carry away. The rifle, I don't know how many rounds I have expended. It has been a massive count. I won't say a million, but let me put it this way. I've been on the range in shouldered weapons that most people only dream to touch. And I've used them extensively over a period of years. Now, would that be the case? Right now, I don't think I have a dying need to pick up any firearm. I don't need to. I'm very experienced in it. I can handle most every weapon that I'm possibly going to touch in the dark, blindfolded, and using only one hand. I can make it, you know, pretty well bring it into service. In your situation, we have a little different problem, but still the same issue. It's more important that your body be in a safe and secure place at this point in time, so I would not get involved with arms because there's more than enough out there without you touching them. I would concentrate on developing the skill by looking at and paying attention to what other people have already done to pass on the knowledge to all these different mediums. You've got books, you've got videos. Once you collect that information and you immerse yourself in it, you're going to become fairly familiar. The only next step is, again, hands-on. And hands-on can be picked up with OJT on the job training when the time comes. And of course, as far as if there's any other training, I would go so far as to say that even some simulators, which are not firearms, are available that will be to actually physically understand how the weapon is going to orient to your body, the ergonomics of the weapon itself. sniping and ballistics. Shoot out to 500 yards, how many times have you actually shot out to 500 yards? You got 39 inches. You know what I'm saying? He tweed his legs. On a drop he told me what type of gun. He's not familiar with the...he didn't eat anything. understand the performance in prison in fact study the many arms and i do this anyway i actually do this i'm always watching let me give you an example i've mentioned this on your couple times it's an excellent little video for understanding the basic operation of a fire team and it was done as a promo piece for the valm a rifles it's on youtube right now it's about ten is ten minutes fifty three seconds long yet you can pay for it if the park a 92. It's that simple. When you go to YouTube, search R capital R capital K space 92. Nice little piece. I'm gonna actually want to recommend it to everybody out there I've done it a couple times on the air because to understand the the dynamics of the battlefield in a little clip here It shows all of the components of the fire team in motion shows you exactly how aggressive you should be How motivated and focused you should be but it also shows the use of the weapons themselves It shows the employment of the grenade shows using the rifle adjusting the rifle for rifle grenade use utilizing a rifle grenade blank and mounting the grenade it shows us the team leader leading his men and demonstrating how he should be focused squad rifleman pay attention there there's an automatic weapon there a squad automatic weapon that's drum fed uh... it shows engaging a fixed uh... fixed objective fortification through that onto an urban setting from an urban setting into night fire and even though it sounds like you're listening to the Swedish chef in combat because it's all in thin it's a good video it's actually a very good video for dynamics and showing you the base some of the basics now pay attention again use some of the other videos that are out there the reason I brought up YouTube is because it's free okay there's a lot of other things we could do but right now it's free you can get in there you can jump in you can look at a lot of the different arms and will bring you up to speed in a lot of areas without you having to take any risks or getting in trouble. And that's one of the things that frustrates the other side. There's a lot of things you can do otherwise. For instance, if you're going to work with a militia formation, remember, medical support. Why I've made this an emphasis on the air, you need medical support. We need training. We need trained individuals. At this point in time, you can prep for that, if nothing else, and participate in a different way so that nobody's going to have to say anything. I've seen medical supplies. Now that's an essential anyway. I know people who do and I'm acquiring ammunition for them. But also my son and I, he's six years old, has been going to the firing ranges, renting the weapons that they have and trying all different kinds of things. The company does. There's a range of arms. Tell you what, Eric, stay right there for a second. We've gathered your calls and we'll be back in a minute. of the US founders. 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Ladies and gentlemen, we are back. This is the Intel Report. You've got Tom and Mark, and we've got Eric, and then we have Darren and Steve also, but we've got Eric up for the moment. Eric, anything else? Just real quick, I've been acquiring an admission for friends who have various different ones. Do you suggest following? you know volume that's not a lot of it you know my attitude right now within an ammunition availability let me give you an example i want to write down through the list here there is some other calibers available you know what i was looking at is what can i get a lot of the uh... tokerith pistol cartridges the cheapest thing out there on the market right now uh... the promise you don't worry about a handgun but if you're recommending something somebody else There's a lot of 30 Tokarev out there which means you can buy it reasonably cheap. Again, $115 for 1,224 rounds. That's a better price than anything else out there for putting a bullet down range. Otherwise, the most important thing would be a standardized caliber of, again, either .308, .223, .162 by .39, and the other option right now. And again, it's what I call a bridging cartridge. is the 545 Russian, it's 545 by 39. It's the standard Russian caliber right now other than 30 caliber. The Russians are producing and bringing it in in three different loads right now, or probably one match load that I can see. The 545 is cheap, in good quantity, magazines are available, weapons are available for the same price as the standard AK, and it's a decent rifle. It's a decent round and excellent rifle. Now, if I were looking for reloading, obviously I'd be looking at one of the three. If you're looking at American, we know .223, .308, and .30-out-6. .30-out-6 is not obsolete. Anybody who tells you that, turn around and smack them side to head. I love it. I would not want to get shot with an M2 .30 caliber ball round. In fact, there's a whole lot of dead people long gone from World War II. In fact, we'll go... World War I! World War I with the .30-out-6 with the state of Mexico... I'll bet you a million. I'll bet you a million. Oh yeah, easily. And then you've got World War II going through there, Korea, and even in Vietnam, the Grand and the .30 caliber Browning and the .30 caliber .1996 were out there in force. So that weapon by no stretch of the imagination is obsolete. In fact, it's more dangerous on the battlefield today because with the .30-06 of the .308 rifle, the rifle cartridge, you outrange everybody else with a shoulder-fired weapon because everybody else is using .223 or using the .545. you have as much energy at five hundred yards for the muzzle in some cases. The reason I mentioned now, there is OTS-6 out there, Greek 30-06, but there's a lot of American OTS-6 laying around. There's still Remington, Winchester, and Federal loadings, even if there's stuff you can touch, it averages 1000 if you can get it. So there again, as we're saying, but again, the advantage of the Greek along with the U.S., it's boxer-primed, reloadable, very good, very good consistent loads. A heat annealed case, boxer-primed brass case, middle jacket, Sierra Boat tail projectile. I prefer main battle rifle cartridges, but there's a reason. I'm not trying to scare them, and I don't want them to get real close. I'm 50 years old. I know that when the time comes, I'm going to have to place around on target. I want to maim them or I want to kill them really bad. But I do not want them to follow up to me. You start us now like me. I don't want the violence of the battle. Yeah, you want to, it's kind of like, you want it so far away that you can't even hear him screaming and thrashing. Okay? Exactly. I don't want to go through his wallet and see his friends. No, my friends will do that. That's their job. The young guys have been trained to do that. That's the intel job. Otherwise, it's going to be shop for the ammunition first and then look for the weapon to match it. That sounds weird, but there's lots of boom toys out there. The big thing is to find the ammunition that fits your wallet. And it's a personal selection issue because it depends on what you can find, where you are in the country right now. Mark, Mark, let me give this young fellow one piece of advice from an old guy. Very, very simple. The young guys want to run down there and cut these guys to pieces and get it all over with. You know what the older guys want to do? We want to take our time, take off one shot a day, maybe two shots a day, follow them around for a couple of weeks and get every single one of them without getting them. are you objective is to pump efficiently and again the the the the point being that there's a there's there are there are different different weapons with different applications uh... the a k it has its place it is actually an exceptionally accurate rifle for its design It can be improved upon. Inside of 100 yards? Well, no, I can put it out to 3. I know somebody's going to say, well, over 300, you lose all the energy. Well, okay, guys, I can still, if I hit it, if I hit you with it, you're going to hurt, okay? Oh, yeah. But at 300 yards, I can easily take the AK or the SKS. I've done it many, many times as an instructor. We have used thousands of SKS as an AKs and CZ rifles, M1 rifles, FNs. have said on the range we have put whole units through the course with their choice of weapons so we had to be very versatile and we did this is not poor force i had two different out for groups in the field in the given time mark on the right now i'm the range i'm not talking about optimum shishan here i'm talking about very very simple hundred yards that's the way it is a it's perfectly suited for that yes exactly and you want to know the great part about the a k you can fire a lot of my three hundred win mag thousand yards and they're close enough. Either that or your other troops are going to be doing the job after they get closer and you're moving back to your second fighting position. Eric, can we answer your question? The person from Florida has been so patient. We've got Steve from California after that. Darren, jump in there please. Hey guys, good evening. I'm looking around and watching the videos that you're recommending on YouTube and I've been looking at the Moran and you guys are talking about range and this is one of, I have a couple questions. Is the carbine just as effective as the actual? The tanker? You're talking about the M1 carbine, right? Yeah, the M1. Well there's an M1 carbine, there's an M1 Garand tanker model and then there's a regular full length battle rifle. Which one are you talking about, sir? I'm talking about the one that was used in World War II. And I'm looking at that one and I'm saying, okay, that's a great sniper rifle, correct me if I'm wrong, because it's got the length for the accuracy. But I was looking at the carbine to what do you lose in that length of that rifle? Well, are you talking about the, okay, now here's the reason there's confusion, because the carbine, are you talking about the magazine-fed carbine has a 15-round mag? You know, I guess yes. Okay now the difference is and then Don knows that's why Tom asked this question The m1 rifle is in 30 out 6 the m1 carbine is in 30 carbine Now there is a there is a shortened there are two different rifles completely the carbine served a different niche basically It was the mother of the assault rifles in the American family of weapons. Although it was a carbine It was in a pistol car pistol caliber. It's a pistol And it was still a very good rifle. The carbine itself is still a good weapon for close in defense. You've seen actually, if you watch the equipping part one, you'll notice that I demonstrated the use of an M1 carbine and why it's so popular is because it's so easily concealed. It was a very effective light utility weapon for individuals who weren't necessarily going to be in the thick of things, but they made so many of them and a lot of guys got attached to them. to the point where front line troops were carrying the carbine just as often as they were the Garand. The Garand is a long range MBR. The carbine is just exactly what it says. When you hear the term carbine, you're talking about a shorter barreled, lighter rifle designed with a shorter range of engagement and foreclose in defense. Even the SKS, people are calling it a rifle. You'll recall that the SKS is rated as a carbine. It actually fits that niche just as the M1 carbine does in the United States. The carbine cartridge is a straight case cartridge like a stovepipe. The 30 out 6 is a full battle rifle with a stepped case. We'll be back in a second. This is the Intel report. We've got Tom and Mark and we have Darren on the line. We'll be back in about three minutes. Hey Mark, you with me? Yeah, I'm done. People who use cardivite know about the pollutants in our body and want them out. For over five years, cardivite has proven itself time-tested. Here's Dr. Mattson, a naturopathic doctor's thoughts on cardivite. In our mind, there isn't such a great big mystery to disease anymore. 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PBN PO Box 194, Dexter, Michigan 48130. Again, that's PBN PO Box 194. Dexter, Michigan 48130, just send a self-addressed stamped envelope, make it a legal sized envelope, doesn't have to be a big envelope, but a good sized envelope. And a couple of stamps covers a postage and then we'll try to point you in the right direction. How's that? That sounds wonderful. Alright, now with the Grand, if you're looking at that, and again, Tom's going to bring something up here, if you're looking at it and you do actually invest in an M1 rifle. They're an excellent weapon, they're American made, there are some Beretta models out there, but you're running into American rifles here pretty much. They're surplus. And firing pin extractor and ejector, you want the small springs and you can go to the gun shows and pull all the parts off the shelf and you can get them brand new. Okay? For ammunition, Tom, there's a couple places right now that's got 30 out 6 and a d-clips, right? Yep, one of the companies, 30 out 6, 50 grain full corrosive and box. Now remember folks, the word something. Guys like me that don't use for 1,000 rounds. To me carefully, it's about as good as you're gonna get. It will be twice as much right now. Works pretty good. I don't know what it is. I fired it and it sparks a little bit on impact. Dirty side, but it's pretty consistent. You gotta get this stuff from premium price for the Greek ammo in, and as far as I'm concerned, in .308, .306, the GARAN has ever been green. It's nothing more than a GARAN. They're all great. Let me look at. Well here again, this is in D-Cliffs, so Darren if you're looking to buy a Garand, keep that in mind. Try to find the ammo, and we're lucky for the moment, because this Greek stuff came in the way that it did. Then the trickle marked and all of a sudden everybody got it. Right. So this stuff is out there for the time that it's out there. Anybody out there listening that does have an M1 rifle, get it now. And get by as many D-Cliffs for the rifle as you can. When you go to the gun shows, like I said, when you go to a gun show, take $20 and set it aside in your wallet. for spare clips or magazines. In this case, it's a D clip. It carries eight rounds by $20 worth every time that you go to the show and put them off to the side with your rifle. It's part of what you're going to need to keep your weapon running. And otherwise, the weapon is a flawless machine. It does require maintenance. If you follow the instructions, the weapon will serve you admirably for the rest of your life. And that means, again, proper maintenance. or until you get shot. Well, the plan on the not shot. You know, Mark, I got enough money for the rest of my life as long as I'm dead by seven o'clock. Right. There you go. Is that a good enough, Darren? I really appreciate what you guys are doing. And for the guy who called in and said that was the other guy from Florida, Tom, the sign on his lawn. Like you said, put it in your car. I've got my motorcycle out front and I got my sign parked. right on my handlebars, so everybody who goes by coming from work. This is such a way that they can't say anything about it, but people will notice it. Steve from California, we're going from one end of the country to the other again. We got Steve jumping there, please. Hey guys, over here in Oxley Bay territory, California. And what I wanted to do was ask you, I was listening to Michael Bednarik on the station this morning, and he had a guest on that was Apple Steve Project. Have you ever heard of them? Veterans Association? Yeah, actually, there's another group, the one Apple C group is in rifle marksmanship. They're having a shoot in my area, was contemplating going, and wondering if it would be worth burning up any of the ammo that I have on hand to do this. Well, again, you might consider, depending, what are they proposing? Center fire rifle or do they have a 22 match? They have a 22 match, but they do want you to bring your MBR, which, if anything fancy, I've got a deer rifle. Well there we go. That works. To be quite honest, you know, this is one of, you know, that's not anything to sneeze at. Let's point this out. The average your rifle is more accurate than any military weapon yeah i mean they're terrified of the idea of a sniper behind every tree of a rifle marksman behind every tree and with a standard rifle that the average american has with some kind of glass on the roof in other words some kind of optics you're actually extending your the range of your weapon typically your weapon is already battle site zeroed uh... you know what's going to place around and now you just have to apply yourself properly and i don't have any problems of using a bolt gun on the enemy In fact, just in reverse, I prefer it in many cases. I've used a 1903 Springfield for many years. The rifle that I use was a state match shooter that won four matches in a row, four years in a row, and then went to the national matches. Springfield is whispering death. And I use iron sights. I don't use a scope, but I can still reach to 1,000 yards. I will put it within a person-sized silhouette five rounds, five times at 1,000 yards, and you will never know where I came from. Now, with optics, I can do just as well and I can decide which eye to dot. That's not a bag, that's just I know what I can do with that rifle. So, your hunting weapon, no matter what it is, is as good as any of the other weapons that are out there. And again, it's just a matter of proper application. Open sites gives you quick advice. Right. Well, again, always, you know, know your weapon and how, if you can, try to maintain your iron sights and your glass optics at the same time, whenever possible. So yeah, it would be worth taking that weapon to the range. The only issue is, again, like you said, what's the cost and ammunition? What is chambered for? Seven millimeter. Well, that's a little pricey when it comes to pulling the trigger. We know that. But are you reloading? Yeah, if you do go, and even if you only shoot a little, remember, start to get together with people. See if there's somebody else there who's reloading, because your seven millimeters are very reasonable. Even seven millimeter belted mag is actually pretty reasonable to reload. Well, that's what I was wondering was the association itself. I want to network with some people about the network. Right. You might want to look at progressively like I've been even for our friend, Eric, and all of the other guys are in California. It's kind of like being in New Joyzie. I would recommend migrating away from or moving towards the northern part of the state simply to get away from the problems that be because it's still going to be difficult. You've got characters that are going to try and play police state, but there's other places that are Some places are more friendly than others, you know that. But extended family has got me free. Well, I'm going to have to defend from where I'm at, but I still would like to network. Okay, well this is an option. This is a good way to go because again, what you want to do is be able to get in with the reloaders. Your weapon can be fired more economically once you find out exactly what it is you want to work with in the way of reloading. I'd go with a simple press. Don't go anything fancy. The 7mm can be rolled all day. There's all kinds of projectiles out there. Powder is cheap because you can go big bore powder on that too, by the way. Stay right where you are. Tell you what, we're going to go to break here. We'll be back in about three minutes. Hi, my name is Don Wiskin and for over seven years I've been telling people about Cardi Bites. 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Plus, remember this, the high point carbine and the high point pistol All the magazines for those 9mm are interchangeable. The 9mm carbine and the 9mm pistol, you can use them in both, both one goes in the other and vice versa. Now there's a little trick to that. There are some 25 round stick mags made by high point for the carbine that would drop right into the 9mm pistol. now you want those where you are but somebody could have those someplace else when the time comes and they'd be kind of handy to have one or two for volume fire but i'll just end with the same i was thinking about that but the car being at the pistol grip even though that's why i was just saying i understand your problems there with with the rifle but the uh... but the pistol itself very reliable uh... in fact if you go to hootari the hootari videos that are on our youtube sites uh... h u t r e You will see high points used extensively in the videos and in our latest video, pay attention to what the girls are using on the live fire range. It's called, it's militia live fire. If you watch the pistols that you see in that video are high points. Right, you know, those are, they're beautiful arms. They're functioning flawlessly. They've put them through their works. They beat the snot out of them, to be quite honest. And the weapons are working just as well as the Glocks, the Rugers, the Sig Sowers, everything else that they're using. So I wouldn't think twice about carrying the weapon. I think it would be a fine arm. It looks like they've done... Originally they didn't care about fit or about finish, okay? Fit was fine, but finish they didn't care about. Originally they were even cruder than they are now. Now they've rounded them out, they've dressed them up a bit, and the weapons themselves work just fine. So it just purely a matter of what you can spend. And if you can spend less money on the weapon, you can buy more mags and you can buy more ammo. Thank you. And one real quick comment. My wife has a bookkeeping business and has a mailing list of a little bit in every mailer that went out. God bless. And thank you again for supporting Ron Paul too. That's the way to do it. I appreciate it. I'll tell you what, Tom, we got only so much time. 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But what we tell everybody to do is throw them in the wash when they come. Living in one of those countries. That's what's going to be in them. Now, yes, tomatpokerface.com. Yeah, that'll get to me. Questions, aren't it? I'm looking at the helmets now. I moved a bunch of helmets. There's a pretty 100 of them left. We have one more caller. We're going to get him in. com That's because of the time. There's something that's gone down here that's very important that people ought to be paying a watch to. Wesley Snipes was indicted by a grand jury in April of 2006. They kept the indictment secret until December of 2006. Well, they're still trying to keep things secret. His trial began yesterday with the Internal Revenue Service, and it's about $11.4 million that the IRS is trying to frisk Wesley Snipes for. the famous actor trial is going on in ocala florida it's set for about ten days that this trial is going to blast wesley snipe has filed a six hundred page report with the irs and says show me the law he says he's not a slave or citizen of the united states he he has filed papers claiming to be a non-resident alien and that they have no jurisdiction to tax him to begin with gee isn't this wonderful folks it's not like they were a god and you've already got him in court they were already got a meeting in touch with No, Larry B craft will duck drown him Larry B craft works for the Internal Revenue Service. He tried to bury me in the line. First of all, we do know that the case is in place, but we have not seen any coverage on this in any of the controlled media, have we? No, if you do a Google search, it will come up nothing. Here's how you do it. Google search and then hit advance. Search and then in advance. You scroll down the box and the box says anytime you put in 24 past 24 hours, there is something like 20 or 30 articles already hit various news services, but it's not being released on the search agents. They're blocking everything. And he told them that if they proceeded with this trial, he is going to sue the agents for fraud and misrepresentation. And they then said, well, he was threatening everybody and that they're now threatening the rest of the agents because they broke the law. Well, the bottom line is that they're trying desperately to twist and twist and twist again and they are completely susceptible to litigation. They are a private corporation registered outside the United States. What we need to do is start hammering them across the board on this and that's one of the things when you've got enough money they can actually make the effort to do it. He's got the money, Mark. Right. He's got the money to do it. More people need to do this. He's got the money. He's going to fight them. Well, these are pirates. That's what we're dealing with. They are privateers working inside the country. We're the top of the art. Guys, together, all three of us together. God bless the Republic. Death to the new world of order. We shall prevail. The Empire is on the run. I'm going to put rocks in their packs. That's right. Send them out to the sharks. Let them swim halfway back to the right, guys. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I prefer the rope, Mark. Okay, well, the rope too. That's enough. Well, thank you, guys. These people are so filthy the sharks won't eat them. That's oily meat, dark oily meat. Thank you. Good night. We'll be back on Monday. On September 1st, Vote Rescue and our coalition, Texans for Real Elections, conducted an exit poll at the Texas Straw Poll in Fort Worth. With almost a 25% respondent rate, we found a discrepancy in one candidate's results, Ron Pauls. 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