January 4, 2008
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Mark Koernke discussed militia gun shows in Virginia, preparedness, and his seven-year prison experience as a political prisoner. He addressed caller questions about Michigan's political situation, prison survival strategies, and voting integrity. The episode covered militia flag ceremonies, ammunition procurement, and the importance of election monitoring through paper ballots and precinct-level coordination.
- militia gun shows
- virginia
- political prisoner
- category 11
- michigan governor
- prison survival
- voting integrity
- paper ballots
- ron paul
- preparedness
- ammunition
- election monitoring
- precinct coordinators
- constitutional rights
- militia formations
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, We fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave, is this the land of the free. in home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free, in home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current use in a regulated press, and you pay your tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic in each God-given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the midst of whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now his parents trampled each God-given right. We only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Dill the Land of the Free. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, south, southwest, east, and north. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on We The People Radio Network, wtprn.com. That's We The People Radio Network. We're also on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com. That's LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com. And on... 365 then go to Liberty Tree Radio. You will also find us on AM and FM regular stations, AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and alternate technologies east and west of the Mississippi. Well, we're on Galaxy 25 too, and it is Friday. It is the third part of the rush hour here for a lot of people. If you're listening to one of our micro stations or our regular AM or FM stations, I will remind you again, pay attention to what's beyond the hood of the car and also what's left right behind you. The other problem with driving on a Friday, well, you know, it's been kind of icy around here, so a lot of people don't necessarily have their snow-driving wings, as they say. You step on the brake, you find out that the brakes work just fine. The brakes lock up real good. Unfortunately, the material under the tires, which of course the brakes are helping to slow down or stop completely, well, the momentum of that one and a half ton vehicle or one ton vehicle you're driving, it just keeps right on going. Even though the wheels aren't turning. So, take the time to test the road conditions. I know you might be jumping in the car right now, starting it up, you just warmed it up, you're sitting in the parking lot, you're thinking about going home. Think every step of the way about getting home. Take your time, be patient, pay attention to what other people may or may not be doing. Those people who have the cell phone stuck to the side of their head with their hand operating, while the other hand is operating the wheel, they're not probably paying complete attention. So you always got to use your eyes. Sometimes you might hear them before they hit you and you've got time to turn as they will say, there's another term for it, but it's rear end of the blast, best turn away from the enemy before the impact, if it's an automobile attack. You can do it sometimes, otherwise you can't, but hey, at least be ready for the worst, pay attention to what's going on and we'll get you home safe so you can relax and you really can enjoy tonight's activities, be it just sitting down with a family, going out to eat, whatever. You gotta get home first. It is Friday, it is the end of the week. It has been a very, very special week, I have to say. First of all, to Zusman Ackerman Arms and to the Zusman Ackerman crew, the design group, they produce many different .50 caliber bolt and semi-auto designs. Their most recent endeavor is a home-built VA7D 7D semi-automatic, chain-fed .50 caliber rifle. Really cool design all tubular very straightforward in concept all the technology was worked out years ago and ZA's Systems are all designed to be built from kit. We do it from scratch with a handful of parts and pieces the ZA rifles are there so anyway, they're gonna be at the 268 only gun show which is this weekend coming up 268th militia only gun show sponsored by the 16th regimental combat team colonial marines the guys are going to be there from za the doctor will be in as they say not dr. Ron Paul but the doctor from za and for those of you who have questions about your rifles that you've put together at these militia only gun shows by invitation only this way remember we keep we keep the basic axiom in line Guns are for buying, not for selling. If you have a firearm and you're in the militia, ain't no sense in taking it outside our circles. Ideally, you need to just make sure it's cleaned up, put away. If you're not going to use it for your own personal use, put it in the 510 program. Well, the militia-only gun shows. The advantage of this is that if you decide that you really, really, really want to move that weapon downrange to somebody else's, you know, inventory, Here's a chance for you all to do it amongst yourself to make sure that everything is safe and everything stays well within the family. So this is a big plus plus for all the regimental combat teams that have been sponsoring along with other militia units have done a great job. We're heading towards 270. I think they're going to have a little bit of event for 270, but that's a little tongue in cheek number because of some of the competitions. But we still got a couple of shows out before that too, a couple of militia only gun shows. This particular show, as expected, is in the south end of Virginia this week, this weekend, starting on Friday evening. I understand that there's going to be a flag ceremony on Sunday, and that Colonel Green and the company will be servicing the color guard, will be presenting the color guard, a unit flag to one of the new formations in southern Virginia. So that should be pretty impressive. I was hoping, and I think we're still going to be able to do this, we're going to have a militia flag ceremony on the air. At least it will be covered, kind of like some of the other programming we've done. I've talked to a couple of units. What happens with militia formations that are organizing is as we collect the number of people and after they've elected officers, after everybody's been designated, we ask that the wives, the grandmas, the moms, the children, the daughters, of the uh... militia members get together and that they actually hand embroider the unit flag on a given date uh... both what we call the the uh... personal edge weapons of the unit or the designated uh... standard personal fighting night for the unit is uh... purchased and numbered and there's a specific ceremony whereby first the colors are presented to the elected officers The bylaws, of course, by the individual units dictate the ceremony, so that's up to them. And of course, there is a kind of a standard that's been established now. And the women present the flag to their husbands who will, and brothers and cousins and grandchildren who are going to stand to protect their liberty. The next thing that happens is each of the individuals who is a member, one of the female family members from each of that man's family, Either it could be the wife, it might be a sister, it could be the, could be grandma, could be mom. Present the, the edged weapon to that member, and it's a little bit of a ceremony, takes a little bit of time, but it has very, very significant meaning for everyone. And it's very memorable. So, you know, we get a chance to do this. I think we're going to be able to take care of this in the next month or two, because there is, there are at least two ceremonies. One of them, they want me to attend, and I'm going to be saying a few, a few words there. probably I'll be helping to present the colors because this is one of what we call our banner units. This is a unit that I helped to organize back in 1984-85. It's a militia unit that is now three generations of members. In some cases, three generations of family members or four, which is really cool. One war two vets, we have individuals who have not served but are say the next generation. So three and four generations serving with this militia formation. So it's going to be exciting. We're going to try to do what we can to help them out. But just an idea of some of the things we do on the militia. It's why sometimes it sounds like we're a little tired at this end. It's because we're run, run, run, run, running. A lot of good stuff is happening. We're going to continue to vote with our wallets, not simply at the ballot box. We're going to vote with our wallets, buy more ammunition, pick up what you can, grab more. You never have enough. It's just like magazines. You'll never have enough. Now, we're going to go to callers real quick because we do have some guys here that have been really, really patient, but I wanted to get that in because it is Friday. I'm not going to get a chance to do anything warm for two days. We got country boy from Indiana. Jump in there, sir. Hold tight. There we go. We got you. Hey, on another program you guys had some bumper music about the Civil War and a battle. Do you remember what the, you never said what the name of the song or the artist was? Oh yes, it's Lookout Mountain is the name of the song, I'm pretty sure. I've got it, I don't, forgive me, you caught me off guard there on that one because the author is, he's done a number of southern pieces, southern, you know, the War of the Rebellion slash, you know, the Northern War of Aggression music. Hey, well, it's outstanding. Why don't you play it sometime? Most importantly, say who it is, what the CD is, so people can order it. Absolutely. I will do that. I promise. You know what? I was thinking about that today, but we've been so running. We've been running around constantly. And what I'll do is I'll make sure I'm making a note right now. uh... music for an all-natura get down to our guys at the uh... studios down there too because of also get another gentleman you know i don't have a record of robert moy before have you ever heard of him not often he's done uh... if you like the music you heard there that his style of music to and uh... there's also another band uh... actually has been waiting called a heritage uh... years ago one of the songs are going to be came very popular is ride paul ride And again, in the same style as the music that you heard in our morning program, it's the kind of stuff I like to play. I mean, I just like... The more you play it and announce it, the more people will be able to purchase it, because I had never heard that on any bluegrass station or any alternate Patriot. It's got a line in there. It says, they asked me if I could hold, sir. And I said, no, sir. And boy, I'll tell you what, that really... that really got to me because i've been in a lot of positions usually in the army undermanned where if if you told them the truth no we can't you know we can't do it we can do it but we're going to try anyway they do other points you know when i listen in i listen for that practical uh... information and the anecdotal stuff especially about the economy and in michigan these other clowns all this political garbage and you know really uh... it's not it really is not going to matter on the individual level if you're attempting to survive what who who uh... they put in charge of their i understand we do have one out of about ten people that we want to see uh... get done but i'll give you two examples one would be your personal experience on how you uh... bibed and thrived in prison you know for a lot of people out here it's not uh... it's a a possibility that at some time in the future they could have uh... you know be targeted by law enforcement or end up in a jail and there's been no preparation unless you know somebody that's been uh... recently had something to do with law enforcement they're totally unprepared so if you could take twenty minutes out of a broadcast and give something out could you listen to the shortwave radio where is there any type of people that were uh... that you could speak to the things that we do that listen to your program. The other thing would be general information on Michigan. You know, there's, I pretty much know southern Michigan, but you got a nuclear power plant over by Toledo, you got two over by Lake Michigan, so what does the rest of the state look like for both of you? I understand, good point. That's one of the things we do. It's kind of like, well, you take for granted, and I appreciate you bringing this up because you kind of take for granted sometimes, hey, Michigan, we all carry a map of it. Just take and put your left hand down on the table, and then take your upper hand, your other hand, and flip it perpendicular, and you've got the upper and lower peninsula right there. Well, we carry a map. We just got to use it more often. We can describe her to give everybody a better idea. Michigan is a unique environment. I would say each state is obviously because we can go from tropical rainforest in the United States all the way up to the Antarctic, so to speak, with Alaska. But it's pretty bitter and it gets pretty interesting weather-wise and conditions-wise here in Michigan, Wisconsin. Those two states, because they are the lake states, have a lot of rolling terrain, got a lot of different population centers that are unique. So I'll tell you what, I promise I will take the time to do that and give everybody an idea, bring them up to speed to what we're seeing here in Michigan. I'll tell you what, we're going to break. If you want to, stay right there, sir. And this is the Intel report. We'll be back in about three minutes. We're going to talk about a few of the subjects of product peers' questions. call 1-877-928-8822 or visit our website at heartdrop.com. That's h-e-a-r-t-d-r-o-p dot com. Government is best which governs least. Wake up and smell the fascism. Being in government means never having to say you're sorry. What part of unconstitutional do you not understand, George? 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Watch Dead Mine Live from 2pm to 4pm Central Monday through Friday right here on We The People Radio Network. utilizing the pre-release footage, this is before the Patriot was out in any video form, and the music video you see there was not done by Sony or by the Hollywood people, it was done by us with some very simple private editing equipment, and by utilizing pre-release video footage that was available to us from the Patriot before the movie was out. But that song, Rather Die Than Be Your Slave, the proposed music video song for the Patriot with Mel Gibson. What happened is the band, it was in negotiation, but Sony wanted them, Sony Records is one of control of the music as I understand. They wanted them to surrender all their music. And we've seen this before, the band did not want to do this because Patriot bands have been shut up in the past and put out of business by getting into these kind of label contracts. Instead, these young men who have been patriots for many years stayed the course. They're still producing. They've got a new album. It should be out right now. I've got to get Paul up here for that. But these guys do great work. www.pokerface.com. And sir, are you still there, country boy? Very good. You know, it's an interesting point. Michigan is a unique situation. It has as many problems as California. will say that it doesn't seem like it on the one hand we have tremendous patriot response we've got militia units that are very well organized we have a lot of people involved in common law that are involved in pro se work in the courts you name it it's done here and of course people both come here to teach and we go out away from the state and teach other people but our governor is a Canadian Californicator so I describe it she's a grand home We hired the governor to be the chief CEO of the state. Now this one, who used a motto a few years ago, where you'll just wait in five years, you're going to be blown away. Well, in the five years since that statement was made, we've had a $2 billion deficit, of course, have been in the red year after year after year. They don't know how to cut spending. They don't know how to cut back on anything. In fact, just reverse all the government teat sucking that they can do, they've been doing, but the money's being stolen. offered off to the side is being talked about. This same governor, who is supposed to be the CEO, the chief CEO of the state, just hired someone else to be the CEO. I don't know what the cost is on that. I still, I was going to call Lanskin and actually ask, how much did this person cost the taxpayers? So far, I haven't heard anything with regard to numbers. They created a new office that basically is a bureaucratic position and equivalent to what the governor is supposed to have the qualifications and be capable of doing. that's the sad part about the politics of the state. Michigan is divided, by the way, up into two different areas, literally down the middle of the state, kind of like by the coastlines, but the center of the state is where Lansing's located, the capital of Michigan. And in the east, we have the Detroit sphere of influence, very liberal, and liberal by, you know, at least the conservative liberal spectrum that's established by the control media. And then to the west we have Grand Rapids which is predominantly more of the, you know, neo-conservative. I won't say they're conservative. They're more neo-conservative slash ring knocker CFR types. To the north it's a mix, but the farther north you go I think the happier you would be in this state because there's a lot of people north of Lansing who pretty well understand what's going on. They've gotten away from the system. Whole counties and whole areas of different parts of the state are pretty much in the Patriot Camp. They help to keep an eye on the system for us because they all get all the briefings to get all the information But they're sitting on the same table at the same table. Those are bad guys are so interesting stuff and the state of course will I promise I'll keep everybody up to date on this because there are a lot of things that happen here in the state of Michigan that are just as strange and bizarre as what you see in New York or New Jersey or California or you know any other state but some states are worse than others, you know, it's like the Chicago area now With regard to the issue of my experience behind a wire, that was seven years worth of... Well, maybe the best way on the one... From the one hand, psychologically, the way to look at it, what I would say is a comparable experience as far as the interaction with a lot of people is like being in a big bus station. Like being in the Albuquerque bus station, if you've ever been there. As far as just the general feel, as far as the tension and the physical response. I spent some pretty exciting long nights starting a fight for, let's see, the moment the total lockdown took place just after dinner until two or three hours after breakfast. And all the time in between was a box and match. That goes on sometimes pretty regularly. So you got to be ready. We have the right mindset. First of all, the idea is to try and neutralize a situation like that to make sure it doesn't happen. And that doesn't mean by kowtowing. That means by, you know, again, asserting yourself and showing, you know, showing both respect and responsibility. And again, typically the problem is, though, that you get a lot of people who it doesn't make any difference. They're just going to want to have to be in a conflict. And they want drama. And so sometimes you got to give them more drama than they wanted. And because you were a political dissenter, were you signaled out for extra persecution by the authorities? In some places, there was an attempt to do that, but the problem is that there's a lot of people, and again, they didn't go out of their way to jump up and say, hey, by the way, I'm doing this because. But there were several situations that developed that were specifically to try and do great bodily harm. and a combination of things because of the way that I carried myself and that I made a point of, you know, again, I'll do the right thing whenever possible. Actually, I have to do the right thing, and it's the right thing whenever possible when you're in that situation, when it's you and whoever else you're dealing with. I'm sorry, it's just how it works. Most people say, well, well, you need to be more understanding. I completely understand the environment that I'm in. I completely understand the threat that's before me, and I plan on either A, preventing that threat from escalating or B, neutralizing it as quickly as I can. You spent seven years, so did they offer you an opportunity for either probation or early release? Oh, that's a good ongoing joke. I should have Nancy. And what we should do is we should, we do need to do this. You know, thank you very much. I appreciate, you know, you jogged my memory because we've been buried. I need to have Nancy come up on the air and sit down with me and Don. And we're going to walk through the whole process of parole. I had a perfect record. I absolutely had, I mean, I had no background, no history obviously. In fact, when I was outside before I came in years ago, I had a TSSBI with the military. Top secret special background investigation. In order to get that, you can't have any record. That's years ago, of course. There's been a lot of things in between. But the thing is that going into the system, by not getting in the face of certain people, in other words, learn how to, you know, learn how the waters flow. and you know swim with the rest of the rest of the uh... school fish to make sure that there's no problems you could pretty well survive in there but the problem and again like you said the the interesting thing is i was targeted as a category eleven political prisoner now how do i know this i don't want to get somebody in trouble but without making this person didn't want to know anything didn't want to talk about anything but she but she had never seen this before and uh... what happened is i came into an office and she goes uh... mister karky can i talk to you for a minute sure, yeah, I'll sit down. She checked the office windows to make sure that there wasn't a bureau, but the unit that she was in, the facility we were in, that particular unit, that block, had a bunch of real worthless people running administration, so they were never around anyway, which means she pretty well ran things. And this is, again, just as a person who deals with our problems and our paperwork. She goes, I've never seen this. I want to show you something. I've never seen this before. She did something that normally counselors administration won't do. She turned the screen around so that I could look at it. Okay. Let me show you something. She scrolled down the screen. She went to a specific, she goes, this is a miscellaneous category where they can enter anything they want. And she goes, what's this? And right there in the miscellaneous block, it said, attention flag category 11 prisoner. Okay, she goes I don't know what a category 11 prisoner is I said I'll tell you what give me a second and I'll be right back So tell me what we're gonna do country boy. You stay right where you are. Don't explain the rest of my attention I'm listening. There we go. Well, I'll tell you what we'll be back wait three minutes. I'll give you the rest of the story But we ate Paul Harvey. This is the Intel report back in three Fabrique national makes a rifle known as the fusil automatic leisure or light automatic rifle considered to be the right arm of what's left of the free world If you're familiar with F.A.L. then visit GunPartSky.com, an excellent source for parts, accessories and technical support for all F.A.L. rifles. If you'd like to modify or upgrade your F.A.L. the Gun Part Sky has a great selection of new, refinished and refurbished parts. 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And ladies and gentlemen, we are back. This is the Intel report and there's a bunch of people that got that message, get out of the building. But you know what? They were really scurrilous swine because they didn't tell their coworkers or fellow people in the buildings in the World Trade Center. not to come to work when they were told not to come to work i consider those people be the absolute will try to lower than snail snail feces okay and there's a whole bunch of them they got their special pages and they got their special emails and then they let all those other people go to work and die you pretty low piece of trite and again uh... country boy uh... we're sitting at the we're sitting at the desk in the office here actually sitting at the other chair of the death of the desk and uh... that screen swung around and I said, well, I'll tell you what, do a key data entry, do a glossary or a follow-up on that for interpretation. And so meanwhile, I'll be right back. So I went down and I'd been doing all kinds. I did lots of pro se legal work while I was behind the wire. I'd already been doing pro se work before that. But I helped with a lot of legal cases that were appeals at the Michigan Supreme Court level, the appeals court level, of course, for Michigan. uh... the supreme court united states and i had three cases actually i assisted with that not only were reviewed but actually in only when you just reviewed in cursory by a cursory form by the uh... the uh... supreme court but but three of these cases actually went into registered in the supreme court they actually were forced to bring them in and open the text uh... anyway or sit there so we're back when you have information that i've been doing research on to that all big file on all this fun stuff And I come back, sit down, I said, category 11 prisoner, that's a category 11 political prisoner. She goes, I know, I just found out. And she looked at the screen where this special entry was, and she looked at me and she goes, well, let me show you something. And she went click, click, click, and click, click, click, and then click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, and all those words disappeared from the entry. And then she hit delete. Everything was gone. When you ask, do we have friends or people all through the system? I can say yes. Now you got to remember that they're at risk because all of these bureaucratic slots and jobs have the executive letter opener hanging over them. In other words, there's always another person that's vying for your pile of goodies or for your job. So they may be fully knowledgeable. They may be completely cognizant. The best they can do, well, in some cases, all they can do is try to stay neutral so that they don't draw attention to you. But in many cases, they will actually step in and deflect. They don't have to, you know, in other words, attention when it's brought by somebody else. The only thing that somebody else can do is step in and go, hey, that person is not a problem. Maybe you don't need to bother with them. And this happened on occasion, in this particular instance with this person, this was at a maximum facility. I was put there with no points. I was three points out of my rating. In other words, actually four. I was level one unsecure category rating for a prisoner. I was in a level four maximum. One hour out of day, out of 24, total lockdown, no break time other than a 45 minute slash 55 minute break out of the cell. Two man cells in a maximum facility, which traditionally was not the case in Michigan, but because they've been piling more and more prisoners up, You're in the cell with another guy for 23 hours minus the time it takes to go eat and minus the time that they may give you every, you know, like either once in the afternoon or once in the morning. They alternate it every other day. Otherwise, you have so many moments to go out to a shower once a day if you take the time in the morning. And of course, you take the time because it's one of those chances you have to get out of the cell. Otherwise, it's bare bones. There's an absolutely minimal amount of property that you have. There ain't nowhere to go and there ain't nothing to do unless you keep yourself busy and keep your mind sane. How did you do that? Well, I think part of it, it helped a great deal because I've been preparing as a soldier for a long, long time. And I think what really helped too is, A, the teaching of my parents, my faith, which made a big difference. My general attitude, which was developed because of my parents, the people that I've known, and the men that trained me in the military who had just come out of Vietnam. Having looked at their POW experiences firsthand, some of these men are friends that I had known for, you know, now know for many decades. And looking at the experience here, I had a general idea of how I would, what attitude I would have to take going in. Now again, you throw out most of the BS and nonsense you see in all the drama that's in all these prison movies. That doesn't mean there isn't drama there, but it's in a different form. I've watched people kill each other. I mean, I close. I mean, like, the meat of the arm, my arm's length. Or within, like, say, reasonable distance. One guy killed another guy over two tubes of red Colgate box, red box Colgate toothpaste. There's only seven days left to leave the system after being down for 20 years. I'd give you an idea just how petty and how insane things can turn in a moment. Absolutely. They had a fluoride in it. Who would want that anyway? You could have. Well, you know, it's kind of sad because things everybody takes for granted out here. The average prisoner in the system makes about $9 to $10 a month. Now with that, nothing is provided by the state. And if the state provides the throwaway soap that they were given by the Fed for free, they will charge the prisoner. So you could always be in the negative and never catch up if you had no help outside or no friends outside and nobody sending any assistance because whatever you make inside and if you don't work you don't get paid by the way. So if you don't want to work you have nothing available. They won't even give you what we call indigent status. So the idea is to stay busy. One of the things that I immediately decided is that this is the first time where I had been able to, I had been a Rolling Stone for years on end and run myself not to exhaust well almost exhaustion several times but i'd run myself constant with a patriot effort before the situation developed so i swore that if i were sitting in one place now is going to play catch up on all of my writings and uh... so that was another thing that i directed my mind to immediately and i lose did you lose later game wait in prison well i i lost weight in prison but i i i'm one of the biggest problem with being a speaker in the patriot effort is the the fact that the schedule that you have to keep, especially if you're doing it every other day or every so many, like every weekend for three days at a time. I worked a regular job and never have I not worked at least one job while still doing all the things that everybody's familiar with me having done in the Patriot effort. That means that I would run 24 hours a day, sometimes three days at a time. Now, as you know, when you go to a meeting or an event, you meet with everybody in general, then you meet with the organizational group. then usually there's an inner core meeting that takes place even after that with the people who are the boobers and the shakers of whatever organization. By the time you're done, it's about two o'clock in the morning. That's when you finally get a chance to eat dinner. Now, once open at two o'clock in the morning across the United States, junk food, there you go. That didn't help my physically. The only sleep and the only rest that I had and that I was getting was when I could get somebody else and everybody, many good men helped with this. I had many people who drove or that traveled with me. And the only time that I was getting any sleep is when A, we were in a car traveling from point A to point B. or when I was on a plane if I was being flown by the host that asked me to come speak and I would sleep on the plane that'd give me anywhere from one to two to three to five sometimes eight hours it was across the country depending on where it was. Other than that, the moment we hit the ground, it was work. Non-stop work. In fact, there's always somebody who wants a moment of your time. You didn't sound like you enjoyed the respite that you had in prison. Actually, to a degree, that's something I think... We've joked about it, but it's not a joke. In a way, I actually was able to recuperate to a degree simply because I was forced not to be a Rolling Stone. In other words, not to be constantly on the run, and in reality it allowed me to mend in some ways. I did get a chance to focus and write, which is why the first battle of the Dagger Wars series books were done. I did 12 of those. Then I did three books before I got out. In fact, I just barely finished the third book before I left and came out from behind the wire. So I finished about 15 books. I wrote for most of the newspapers, the Patriot Papers out there, and a lot of articles that were done, we did either in my name or I did them in pen names. So you've been reading a lot of my material, you just probably didn't know it. It's a medicate you. I'm sorry, repeat? Did they attempt to medicate you? Well, now they, amazingly enough in the Michigan system, like all the states, they try to. What they want to do is get you in for evaluation, and you have to surrender yourself, even in the system, just like you surrender yourself outside for psychiatric evaluation, and I refuse to do that. Once you do that, then the door is open. When you sign, because everybody just automatically say, here, sign these forms. Everybody just signs the forms. Well, then you're stuck in their racket. And of course, you acquiesce to their authority. This is one of the things that I already decided I wasn't going to do. This gets back to a whole series of battles and actions that we fought in the late 80s with men who were veterans, who felt and truly believed that the only solution was a peaceable solution against the New World Order. Because of this, they submitted and did the Gandhi thing. My problem is, is once the system was done with them, their minds had been destroyed chemically. So we already had made a decision, no matter what, as a prisoner of war, we would not let that happen if at all possible. We wouldn't let anybody do something like me. Tell you what, stay right there again. I know we had another caller waiting in the wings at least. We'll be back with the intel report, three minutes, We the People, radio network. 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Tell your friends about BraveNewBookstore.com. and ladies and gentlemen we are back to the intel report a country boy will also have waiting in the wings we've got uh... mitchell from texas a hold on their mitchell you know i lost but i'm sure go ahead in review ok call up That Patriot music, play it, play a good variety of it and tell it who it is. I'm especially looking for that Lookout Mountain song. Oh, okay. I'll do that for you, sir. Practical information. Now, listen, you can listen on shortwave. They got guys talking about the same thing Fox News does. The presidential stuff is not, you know... What are you getting evicted from your house? Are you going to be able to survive in the future? It doesn't matter who the figurehead is. So when you, especially about Michigan, I'll give you an example. There's some guy that's out, a former law enforcement officer doing programs on the militarization of police. He's from Kansas, but he's now living in the upper peninsula of Michigan. Yes. There's probably pluses to that that I don't know about. I just picked up on that when I read where he was living at. So the anecdotal stuff, I could give you an example. There's a pastor, straw cutter in Adrian, Michigan. If you could have him on or somebody and just ask him about the economy. He used to be on a shortwave, but he's off and that's probably because there wasn't any money in that area to be able to keep him on the shortwave. So that's just anything about Michigan because I live close to it and other people probably are thinking about coming to certain parts of Michigan. And then of course, you're Individual and unique experience that other hosts don't have such as the time you did behind the wire by you talking about that these things You are a big plus over all these other guys that are just talking about general geopolitical New World Order stuff Most people know about but that's not helping them in the short run. Well, I think I appreciate I understand what you're saying, you know, one of the things you mentioned I did lose weight in a way because I trimmed out but that's partially because we're starved i should mention that uh... another thing real quick uh... you know we were hearing about people are being picked up in people saying always not that bad they get free medical in prison let me tell you something getting ill in prison is a death Also, I'll ask you, see, there's so many things that you could talk about. What about the vaccinations? What would they do to you? I refused all vaccinations while I was in there, and they tried very, very hard to get everybody into the hepatitis C program. But we know the history of the vaccinations. uh... again the companies that provide dope code divided provided the dope is out of oklahoma uh... that uh... it'd be big give you hands full of stuff once they get you in the medical program big business just like the veterans administration trying to get out of that hospital without taking a flu shot it's big business yet some mark i want to say that she got a good program make it better to do a couple things here that i know that you got the information just sit down to a little outline and and give us your vote uh... the benefit of your experiences that other hosts don't have. Do just that for you, sir. Thank you. God bless. Mitchell from Texas, we can get you in before the end of the hour here. So Mitchell, jump in, please. Thank you for taking my call. I should tell you, I'm relatively new to your program, although I've been listening, I guess, for a period of time. I think it's a whole day handedness there. And it's talk about is you were raising before. And I heard you speak of a subtlety about how they, hours that be, can they see the need to becomes more obvious. like in a state like Iowa where they may not have needed to get out there because comfortable because the vote watchers who watched it in this primary. A good point here, there's an excellent, there were a couple of gentlemen, I've mentioned this to them on the air before, they did a thing called the vote scam, a video. The whole program, the whole process of this, Mitchell, was really cool, is what they did is they went to a small town in the Midwest, actually west of the Mississippi. and what they did is they said hey we want to do an absolute most accurate count of the vote ever and they got the independence they got the democrats they got the republicans to all agree each one had a representative at every step at every aspect of that vote at the end of it they were so proud because, and it's on video, this thing is a video from the middle 90s, and they were so proud because they actually said this is the best election we've ever had. Everybody cooperated, all the parties agreed that there was going to be honesty, they knew they had an accurate count because they made the count, and they had so many people, and they had so much resource, and it was a paper ballot count, that they were able to recount it to confirm it even, okay? So they got the number, they show it, they're so proud. Here are the numbers, they walk over and they pick up the phone and they called it in to the state, you know, to the state accounting system. And the number changed by 37% between one end of the phone and the other when they watched it on television. Now, that's an example of, again, it's what it is, is just like any, like I've said before about command and control operations. 9-11 did not take the whole military to betray the country. 9-11 only means that key rodents and rats combined with command and control personnel at key funnel points could misdirect or redirect completely the entire defensive infrastructure of the country and it was treason. See, that's the point. This thing with the vote, okay, my problem is this. People on the one hand tell you, well, votes count and votes are important. Then when you say, we need to have a high crime laid on any person who is involved with tampering with the vote. Oh, you can't do that. What do you mean? Is it frivolous or is it important? I say it's as important as all of the other sovereign aspects of our great nation. and what needs to be done to stop all this nonsense paper ballots i don't want to know the night that the election takes place who won i want the most accurate count right down to the last vote right down to the last you know the last absolute person to get the papers stuffed in the box i want to make sure that it's counted accurately i don't want to see any mischief go on and i want everybody to see that you should be show that in and demonstrate an honesty that can be achieved in this country That's what needs to happen. That's what I think, like, you know, a lot of the young people that are up there right now, we need that idealism. We need that motivation, and it needs to be in every aspect of our nation's activities. If we see that, if we peel off a lot of these, the socialist type that's attached to our nation has become a parasite, a leech to us, and we focus on our form of government and our system, we could eliminate 99% of all the grief and conflict that we have right now in this country. And we would be prosperous. And I think that's the issue that both Ron Paul talks about, but it's also true at the local level with government. We have scallywags. We got pirates that run from one state to the next to run in politics. The person we have for governor, she is not from here. It's like Hillary Rodham Clinton. Wasn't she in Arkansas before? Have you ever thought about that? And what is she a senator of now? Yeah, it was bizarre that she went over to New York as a subversion of the whole process Think about it. She stepped out on a balcony and said ick bin. I'm New Yorker Okay, Oh look it's Hillary. Is she a New Yorker? No, I'm not the kid clapping. They said the carper. They'll shoot us Hey mark Yeah, go ahead. What I wanted to mainly comment on is actually touching on all those things you raised So hoping that we at the local level can do something about it in place, but essentially it's own precinct. Just the people who are voting for Ron. That's right. Affidavits. And you've got a website up if you let me. Go ahead, if you got a, well, go right ahead, please give it up before the top of the hour. Go ahead. Ron Paul Vote County. And it's just a mechanism where people can go in and ultimately find what we've set up as state coordinators and county coordinators and then precinct coordinators and little precinct system here that you're having a PO box. This is sort of case or a most simple case or you could have someone inside the polling place. Matha David mailed it in tonight, my county coordinator, and we'll have a legally justifiable documentation that can be refuted in every precinct. And the whole idea is make this real simple. It can happen in literally dozens or hundreds. I'm okay exactly. And that can't be ignored. If you have, you know, three different precincts, This worked out pretty good and we have a good reputation that it's not going to be ignored. Hey, thanks a lot Mark. I admire you for what you do and speaking out. Thank you. Thank you very much, Mitchell. Thank you very much everybody who called in. We are at the end of the weekend, the top of the second hour. Ladies and gentlemen, it is going to be a busy weekend. We've got New Hampshire coming up. We also have personal preparedness. We've got to make sure we square away. Go to the gun shows this weekend. Vote with your wallet. Buy more ammo. Buy more ammo. And by the way, did I say buy more ammo? Bet you I did. That's what we need to have you do. Vote with your wallet. As always, God bless the Republic, and death of the New World Order, we shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. 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