December 12, 2007
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Mark Koernke hosted Weapons Wednesday, discussing firearm maintenance, camouflage techniques, and tactical preparedness. The show covered weapon lubrication and solvents, painting rifles for camouflage using commercial products like Krylon spray paint, and lessons from Finnish and South African military tactics. Callers contributed practical advice on gun sleeves, seasonal camouflage changes, and infrared signature reduction. The episode also included discussion of foreign firearms manufacturing, Cessna aircraft production moving to China, and various preparedness topics.
- weapons wednesday
- firearm maintenance
- camouflage
- ar-15
- finnish weapons
- lubricants
- tactical gear
- infrared signature
- gun sleeves
- rifle painting
- preparedness
- militia
- ron paul
- cessna aircraft
- michigan
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free.
and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free is home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent.
Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled.
You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn.
and your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave?
Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God-given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame.
For even now as tyrants trampled, each God-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside and dream while you were asleep, and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave to dill the land of the free?
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Take your satellite to receiver, follow those instructions and coordinates, and guess what? You're listening to us 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, like you're right here in the studio with us. And Don, today is... The December mark, it's the middle of the week, that means it's weapons Wednesday, so again the perimeter is secure. We now command everything for as far as we can see in all directions and have an equal opportunity to employ coercive force to defeat any aggressor that we face. And more importantly than else is the intestinal fortitude to get the job done.
So today is Weapons Wednesday. We are going to be covering a number of subjects and I want to make some recommendations here because there have been some specific questions and we're going to address them. I cannot stress enough of course that if you do not have a weapon, go out and get it. It doesn't have to be fancy for the moment, but you can progress and you can progressively upgrade. Now the basic Finnish rule that we were taught many years ago from our friends from Finland, you know, the motto is
and the next thing you feel is that flap to the side of your head if it's dad talking to you in your a fin. Again the fins, they know from history, they fought the Russians and they fought them to a standstill and then pushed them back out of their country and they did it with militia, they did it with their general population, very well armed and from that point forward and actually for all of their history they have been a well armed population. They have class 3, what we call class 3, they'd laugh.
They don't have such a thing in their country. It's like, what? You mean you can't own a machine gun? Well, you people are slaves. And you're America? Yeah, you're America. Call yourself free. Ah ha ha. You know, Mark, there's something else to mention. The whole campaign only took pain. Yeah, the Russians didn't fare very well and Stalin executed a lot of people after the fact. The command management, because, as was always pointed out, you're only looking at a population in Finland, 1 20th the size of that of Russia.
And of course, most of their country is in the Arctic Circle. I mean, people need to take a look at the map. Finland was a useful piece of real estate that they wanted for development in the advancement west of Soviet socialism. So those socialists, of course, were gaining all the ground they could wherever they could, turning their eyes farther and farther west as they'd said back in the teens, just after the Bolshevik Revolution.
uh... and in the twenties they said that they would water their horses in the rain that was a brag that the communists made slash the soviet socialist involved they didn't quite work out the way they wanted right away but it in with the trail most those countries of course were overrun later after we'll be in the world war two and afterwards but i've been one maintain this neutrality all that having to give up all of a little bit here and there so to speak uh... because of the because of what happened at the end of the war but still maintain its neutrality
and it's our population pretty much armed as they've always been armed. Now they standardized on the weapon of the enemy they know they're going to face first so they've always carried for the most part Russian arms. During the winter wars they used the poison they got and other arms that were comparable so they make their own weapons too. And today they carry the Velmae family of arms.
Well there's again a direct knockoff of the AK-47. I think the best AK-47 made on the planet. Velmae is superior to pretty much everybody else out there. Their quality and standards are very, very high and they're designed for cold weather use. So for those of you who are in northern climes, the Samoa made latte's for instance were made by the fins. They were designed, their crystalline structure, their metallurgy was designed to deal with extreme cold weather conditions.
So for instance, the Lottie 9mm, which looks in outline like a Luger, is actually a very fine firearm for those of you who are in Alaska, those of you who are in Minnesota, the upper parts of the United States like Montana, Idaho, where they get some pretty ambitious winter weather out there. And the Lotties are pretty reasonably priced. Magazines are available surplus. They're military. 9mm standard, Parabellum. Again, most people say, well, it's only 9mm. Well, hey, it works. That's right.
Whatever it is that's available, take advantage of it. But again, the Finnish weapons, just like a lot of the Swedish and Norwegian stuff, on a cold, extreme, can be designed to be user-friendly with cold weather gear, another plus plus. So we can also engineer our purchasing of arms to match the types of conditions that we're in, just as we know that we have the Southwest Desert regions, which get warm and cold to varying degrees.
and we have other areas of the country, wet cold or wet warm or you know, fill in the blank or right across the nation. We have virtually a flavor of everything. So we need to look at also maintaining the weapons. And one of the issues there that we've discussed in the past is lubricants, what are called POLs, petroleum, oil and lubricant products. That's the military designation.
have enough oil laying around than shame on you because and even if it's nothing more than 10 weight sewing machine oil. Guys you can go to the dollar store, you can go to your local hardware, at the very least you have a fine machine oil sitting on the shelf in some quantity. Now again you may not be able to buy it all at once but I would recommend at least 24 say couple ounce cans, smaller cans for a reason. If can is compromised you only lose what Dom?
That's right, but you got all the others ready to go. And on the shelf, the other cool thing is if you have to have more than one person using the equipment or using the oil, the lubricants, that's right. You have options. You move faster, you're more efficient. Another thing is bore cleaner. Now, for many different weapons, there are different types of bore cleaners that were engineered for the specific weapon system because of the type of ammunition it uses, corrosive or non-corrosive, and in some cases, specific powders which create certain types of residue.
If you look, you will find a lot of the military solvents out there available for you working on the Grand, working on the M14s, the M1A. Also the solvents that were engineered for the AR-15 family of rifle, which if you recall has aluminum receivers, who requires a little different care in some cases. There are of course commercial solutions. Don't wait and think you're going to get this later. In fact, let me ask you something. There's a lot of guys out there listening that are in the military. How many times?
Have you been working on cleaning your weapons as a unit and found that there was no bore cleaner and there was no, there were no solvents available? So they had to run out and pick up a, oh that's right, a 40 gallon barrel of diesel fuel or kerosene. Does everybody remember this? I do. I saw this in the 70s by the way. Had it happened several times. So when I learned to go over to the property control for the US military,
and buy the solvents that they were supposed to issue us that they were selling as surplus by the case. Bad, isn't it? To quote one of my favorite movies, Spaced Invaders. Kind of sad, isn't it? It is true though, people. In fact, I learned real quick, don't count on the system to provide. Well, in this case, with the militia and with the private capabilities of the American people, we don't have to wait for anybody. You go out and find what it is that works. Now, I'd recommend checking your industrial surplus shops.
There's a lot of places like this out here, like these discount warehouses we've been mentioning on the air, where if you go to them, you're going to find cases of lubricants and cases of other alternate products like this. Look through what they have. We just found, in fact, the last bottle. We were just stopped at a dollar store very quickly before the show, actually, before the program here. And lo and behold, there was one container, an 1 1�2 ounce container of weapons lubricant.
actually sitting on the shelf. Now they had many more, it's just that we were short on getting there fast enough and hopefully they have some more of the same. And this was new commercial products. So for a dollar for a fairly good sized container, we didn't do too badly. It's an individual serving size, so to speak, for PIRP. You're going to find a lot of stuff like that at the different dollar stores. Another thing to watch for, a lot of you are looking at weapons maintenance and you're trying to come up with stuff to deal with certain needs.
Well, a lot of you have plastic stocks. Don, doesn't the Air 15 have a... Yes, it does. A lot of you got the Finalec, even M1s. Now, paint doesn't stick as well to those sometimes without doing a little more work than you want to, but there's a whole generation of new paints out right now, kind of like for big model work.
They're designed so that if you have that lawn furniture out in the backyard and you wanted to refinish it rather than buy it all new because it's still even though it's fairly cheap, it's you know pricey by comparison with the way things are going with money of it being available. Right now there's a whole family of paints. Now Krylon is one of many companies that produced it, but this stuff bonds to and secures uniformly a nice surface over plastic. Where can I apply this? Well let me point something out. Have you noticed how all of the
Lawn chairs are in subdued colors. Plastic colors that they're offering match the off grays, soft green. But I mean, granted, we'll use regular dollar store, 99 cents, standard flat green, flat black, and flat brown paints. But now you've got these things showing up. And by the way, I just saw it not 25 minutes ago at the dollar store. So and the name brands too, because there's surplus of this stuff coming out. So I want to tell you something.
If you're going to be refinishing or you want to put a quick cover on that to break the pattern of the rifle up, this would be a good idea. Now, somebody at the people's home, I'm going to take my $500 rifle and paint it? Well, it's a machine, people. In this case, the more stuff you have covering it, so to speak, in reality, usually the better preserved the metal and the plastic is anyway, right? Now, another thing is you can go out. Here's an idea. Mark's going to give you a solution.
If you're worried about messing up the original pattern of equipment that you've got, you can always go to the gun show, watch for the really tired looking sets of hand guards. For instance, you can get pistol grips for a dollar, for the AR-15. You can get butt stocks for a dollar. How do I know? We got boxes of them. And you get front hand guards. Now you take your lawn furniture paint,
Paint the camouflage pattern to break it up a little bit that you like that matches your environment. And you've got a solution you can throw on the rifle and you're not going to cry about when you ding it, you smack it, you break it, because you're going to do that in the field with your rifles. They're tools. We're going to be back in about three minutes. We the People Radio Network, you got dotted mark. It's Weapons Wednesday. Got a lot more to come.
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uh... lead south africans have excellent troops south africa's military was fighting southwest africa they're fighting in the north that east of the of the country course or fighting a girl forced to uh... they feel that exceptionally well trained troops they had beautiful camouflage an excellent camouflage pattern for the region that works quite well in michigan by the way to
Good gear, the camouflage, their web gear basically was camouflaged or matted or colored to the same as the savannah that they were working in and the environment blended in perfectly. Excellent face paints, excellent hand camouflage covering, they made sure that they had good discipline. They moved into the field and the rebels that they were fighting, as they would call them,
the again the uh... foreign forces they were fighting when you're in northwest africa well it turned out that they were apparently they were identifying them and uh... able to first of all spot them and then engage them at uh... greater ranges it was anticipated so of course during the battle for eventually captured prisoners
And the intel, intel people, you know, interrogated the prisoners to find out, you know, what they could from them. And they said, what do you know? Well, how is it that you were able to identify us so quickly? And you know, because they were using good sound discipline, they moved in good formation, you know, improper formations so that they concealed themselves. And the African troops that they were facing, the, what Northwest African troops said, well, we saw you because of your rifles.
and they all stopped for a minute and they thought. And he said, what do you mean by that? He goes, well, a black horizontal object on the savannah is totally unnatural. So all of these men were incredibly well camouflaged. They were very quiet. They were moving with stealth. But this big, long, 3 and 1 half foot black stick that they were carrying perpendicular to their body horizontally could be seen for miles.
And somebody finally realized great camouflage, great face paint, great gear, big black rifle, sticks out like a sore thumb. So they did learn from their mistakes. That's right. So they did learn from their mistakes and they started to develop, in fact even develop other colors for the, you know, camouflaging the stocks, etc. They actually produced them in plastics. But the big thing is break out the spray can and they started changing the colors of the rifles. Okay. As far as breaking up the lines. Remember you can break up. You don't have to change the whole color of the weapon.
well just as when you have woodland camouflage or in the camouflage when you camouflage a vehicle what you do you create light dark areas in this breaks up the silhouette of the arm it's the same with your gear when you're wearing your web gear think about this you've got a certain down some countries have all their gear matching they have their camouflage pattern built right into their web gear or their assault vests
But even if all you have are shades of green or OD green for your base color and then other colors in your web gear, think about how you break up the overall pattern of your equipment, of your person, the way your silhouette looks. This is critical again to creating the illusion. In other words, altering the pattern that is expected, what people are looking for. Because I have done this many times. We've used, for instance,
in reconnaissance patrol operations. We've used other patterns of uniforms that match the season but are not normally expected to be seen, say, with the type of environment or the season that we're involved in. We found that five-color chocolate chip desert pattern camouflage worked quite nicely here in Michigan. They're timed with actual operations.
that literally the person was registering or was conditioned to woodland camouflage or black uniforms etc. And literally you could move pretty much unnoticed as long as you made a point of following the basic motion discipline that ensures that there aren't body parts flailing around and there was no arm motion. In fact it doesn't look natural. Most people will see this as some of the videos they're going to be seeing. And I will remind somebody that some of the video work we've done
is not, they're not training exercises. These were actual operations. And when you see some of the motion, remember that for instance, there is no arm motion if at all possible. You keep your arms to your side, you keep your weapon close, or keep your weapon low. There is no arm motion, other one is absolutely necessary. And if arm motion takes place, unnaturally slow, it means that you have to have patience.
Whatever motion is done is kept close to the body so that in reality you're passing, you don't allow light to pass between your arms or your legs if at all possible. It will allow for space between you and the background. This eliminates the possibility of shadowing. By eliminating shadowing you create, you eliminate part of what is basically a flag effect that your eyes register, in your mind registers subconsciously which is why it draws attention to the object.
the money to spare segment on his you'll take all the factory coatings off and clean it and put it a row bar industries Robbie likes to run down in the field job might not where'd it go where did I get a little hand and they start to reach it does not look exactly that's what they and again there are many different finishes and this is a solution here whereby if you're going to do you know certain types of work or if you have certain arms now remember here's the here's another cool thing about this
When we're talking about painting the weapons, and I might mention this, and it's something that is hard. First of all, people have had a problem with this with the HKs we've done in the past. They have a tough time breaking out the paint and actually disrupting the pattern. So let's say you have a $900, $1,000 rifle. Well, we're looking at maybe a little cost for that finish, but as you would argue right off the bat, my rifle's worth $1,000. Well, then it's worth a couple hundred dollar finish, isn't it? Yes, and it will not devalue. In fact, there are people... Exactly.
the pattern that would fit your needs best or you can actually have custom patterns that are applied to the weapon. There are whole units that have done this so that they actually all have the same pattern. In other words, they may have variations on it depending on when it was done. Whole squad, the whole platoon all have the same finish on their weapons. Now here's another consideration because the finish isn't that expensive. In fact, very economical.
But consider this, you have a working grade weapon that you use for operations. Again, build it accordingly. A lot of guys build up their own AR-15s. You know, you've heard on the air here, and by the way, we have Gun Part Sky at 3600 906-8369. Gun Part Sky, he specializes in FALs. And what he does is teaches you how to, you know, he'll show you how to get hold of the kits.
They'll recommend certain directions to go. But the idea behind that is there's a kit gun. That's a parts gun that you've put together from components. You can change what you choose when we have grades for the stocks so that you won't cry as much about modifying the cover a little bit, which will work fine. Tell you what, Don, we're already at the bottom of the hour break. Wow. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the Intel Report. Weapons Wednesday. We'll be back with Don Amark in three minutes. We the people, Radio Network.
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Well I missed it by about a half a bar you guys, but you know that's pokerface.com, or rather that's pokerface.com and get some of that good news. Now I'm gonna kind of share you guys in the gun, more than willing to, one of them, he was supposed to be a caliber policy institute, caliber institute donation to the, they're gonna drive the ticket out and give the rifle away, the winner rifle away, then they're gonna put the winner's ticket back in, and a chance to win a 50 caliber handgun.
No, it's not a BMG handgun, but it's the, you know, the current big... Tell him you heard it on the intelligence report. Very much for his endorsement of the... in the trenches with us, so to speak. You need to support them. Larry, yet. Listen, we ask you to do that. Port Ron Paul. And sometimes we ask you to spread yourself pretty... You say being raped by the economy? Almost that, exactly, isn't it? ... guns that come from overseas. HKs, FN, FALs, you know, and others.
But as the exchange rate goes up, those guns will cost more. And there's that old Janis Joplin song, and part of a refrain from Janis was, we're talking about guns. You can. If you sit in there and when you look at the picture of that FN and your hand just gets a little twitchy and you start to salivate a little, you really want one, much like Pavlov's dogs. But if you're looking... But you're still salivate. Yeah, I know what I mean, you guys. This was timed. But if you're a dwindle in our foreign gun, the guns will open the...
Mexicans and Eskimos and well, you know, they might be American Eskimos but the Colombians and they want to come here and hurt you look so nice and they carry so well do the same thing these numbers again layer of America Ron jump in there we got you hi guys sure this is relevance of weapons Wednesday or not but I heard a rumor that I find entirely bizarre my favorite aircraft is Cessna I love the CJ
And I've heard that they are moving to China. No, not necessarily moving to China, but they're going to build their entry level. We covered this. Yes, you're right. The Cessna is going to be in China. Go ahead, Don. Yes, but they're going to build their entry level airplane. You'll be able to buy a Cessna now for about $109,000 via tandem, you know, 200 horsepower, 100 miles range. They're hoping to increase the amount of private coin, you know, much like the Glide. In Germany, this is a way for it's online.
what one might call, you guys, we covered. We have made it over here. Here's the thing. And this is relevant because this, these are, again, we're looking at tactical slash strategic assets in the arms circles. So they could have made that plane over here in the US. Instead, they're opting to send all the components overseas out of the country and then shoot them over to China for assembly and final assembly. In some cases, all of the components, depending on the sub-assembly will be Chinese.
The motor is being shipped overseas from here for the moment. And that's the other thing I would say because you see they start by doing part of it and then they're going to go, oh wait a minute, by the way we can make that same motor over here for X dollar a mile. Yeah and all of a sudden a whole bunch of skilled American labor will be out in its ear yet again. So you are shipping the parts all the way around the world to the opposite side of the planet.
putting them together there and shipping the plane in its, in theory, final product all the way back over here. My problem with that is that as we know with China Sport or any of the others, you know, it's okay if it's a rifle or something your life's going to depend on, but you know, at least if you're holding onto it, it's not necessarily going to explode and it's not going to drag you to the depths of the ocean or pull you out of the sky.
But we're talking about something you're going to be putting your life into and winging around at a specific air speed at a certain altitude and if something goes wrong, well, the air is very unforgiving and flapping real hard with your arms doesn't do a whole lot of good. Makes you feel good maybe on the way down but it doesn't do any good otherwise. I don't think my first choice would be a Chinese built Cessna anything, okay?
And the fact that they're saying, oh, they're going to bring it in for $100,000. Yeah. And by the time you're done with the interest and the luxury tax and all the other stuff, you know, that you know how that's going to get us. So it's like a javelin. They screwed that up big time. Well, oh, and tell Mrs. Corky, I said, thank you again. Oh, kadoak. And how's the arm doing? Oh, a lot better. Next time we meet, I'll be able to shake your hand like a man instead of a person. Well, thank you very much, Ron.
Thank you mark have a good one. Okay. God bless be careful on the road Absolutely, okay. Yeah, yeah Wahoo from South Wahoo are you that's okay? Ed are you there Edward from Michigan? Yeah, I'm here there we go. What's going on? Oh you guys were talking about? Weapon coatings and coverings and you guys forgot to go over the most simple and basic one because if you're like here in Michigan seasons change and
If you have your firearm painted for one season, that's kind of like, it's good camouflage for that season, but for the rest of the year, you got to deal with the other weather and gun sleeves are very effective, different camouflage patterns you can get. And there are some that we've even been seeing coming out with brass ketchers, which is extremely good, especially with the ammo situation being what it is for the 223.
Yes, and as a matter of fact, there are a number of different sleeves that are available in different color shading. That's another option. Remember, one of the tricks that we have done before is to use the arm of a white dress shirt to make snow camouflage sleeves that go right over the rifle. So it can be used while it's being put into the field. It's not something just to cover it from the dust. It's designed to you to reduce the overall pattern, glare, and change the color.
Tell you what, Ed stay right there and we got Wahoo hopefully calling back to us. The Intel report with Don and Mark will be back in about three minutes.
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Well, as far as making like a gun sleeve to break up the camouflage pattern on your rifles, right now you can probably go to Joanne Fabrics and find the fall camouflage beyond sale for relatively cheap. And like Mark was saying, just a white sheet worked extremely well or a white sleeve from an old dress shirt.
to make a gun sleeve for your barrel, it'll break up the pattern really well. If you are going to make a full body sleeve, you got to remember, take a look at your gun, remember you've got bolt action or you got the slide back and the ejector port, you got to leave free. So, other than that, you're just basically making a sock for your rifle. Right. Now, one of the easy ways to contain, keep a pocket full of rubber bands. And what you'll do is you'll over the gun and when you come to a moving part, you know, it's good to
hold the fabric back and stitch it but it doesn't fray from working brass and now you've got a gun. You just pickle with everything you're looking at when you run into rubber bands like I just got a there's a dollar bag of rubber bands behind us you'll have earth browns greens you'll have dark greens light greens pick those out and put those in your tactical kits.
Put those in for instance, one of the other places I recommend that those should be going anyway is into your repair kit on your load bearing gear. Rubber bands, zip ties, even paper clips come in very handy along with safety pins to fix a lot of things. And even for improvising, if you have all those little items built into a little zip lock bag as a repair kit or an improvising kit, when you do what Ed's talking about, you can take whatever piece of cloth you have
and secure it properly, you know, improvise in the field and make it work. Plus you can use burlap to, you know, to bow it out, as they say. A number of different solutions. And what you do is breaking up the silhouette because the, you know, the firearm is, you know, again, it's got, it's got symmetrical lines to it that really attract the eye because you're looking for that type of thing. You actually register it subconsciously like many other things. So any thing that you can do that's going to help to disrupt that pattern is going to help keep you alive longer.
Another thing you guys, if you have access to what one might call wire stocks, but when you change and... Anything else, Edward? I just wanted to make sure you guys put that out there too, for people who aren't thinking that way. It's a cheap and easy solution. That's right. And again, the idea is we like the word cheap, cost efficient. And again, a lot of you have a lot of extra weapons you're going to have to kit out, which we're going to address here in a little bit too. Thank you, Edward. All right, God bless. And we have Robert from Arizona. Robert, jump in there, please.
Guys, I've got a question that needs to be thought through that, you know, there are certain detergents and soaps and probably it also applies to paint and lubricating and non-corrosive oils.
that show off under ultraviolet light and perhaps under infrared spectrum. And I'm wondering if people aren't stepping on their proverbial by painting something or covering something without first verifying that it's not going to be picked up like a red light. You know. That's a good question. Now, if you're going to build a sleeve, the same stuff you wash your clothes in, you want your clothes to be nice and bright.
Well, come reflective under infrared. That up. What you want to do is wash. One of the tricks years ago that we ended up having to go to, and it is true because there are different types of brighteners that are in the detergents, for instance, for washing that will pull out or exaggerate. Actually, what they do is they buff the colors, what they do, that would actually help to reflect light more efficiently and may also bring up the IR image because of the way that they're collecting or reflecting light.
dish soap especially if you're also worried about color set which is the thing we had to worry about with the old BDU uniforms when they first came out is to use the lemon I mean pledge made a dish soap but there's a lot of others that have a lemon oil in them. We did and we were doing and have done a great deal of testing with IR and with thermal that's another area that's a good experiment with different patterns and systems. Now to give you an idea how far we went with this we have experimented with unit patches.
because, just as Robert pointed out here, because certain threads may not offer a subdued thermal or IR signature depending upon the environment. We found that certain companies that were making patches were doing exactly that. They were using what we believe was an intentional
infrared exciter element and it actually showed up just like you said, just like a banner with an IR signature when the time came. And we've got IR technology and all of the other resources to do this. One of the best things you can do, for instance, jute is an excellent way to subdue and jute because it's an organic. If you store material with raw jute stock like say jute bags or
or jute wrap, which is burlap, everybody knows it is burlap. Burlap wrap, if you take the cloth or the material you're using after you've laundered it in a neutral soap and then store it, actually set it with and roll it in amongst the burlap, the material permeates and actually helps to create a softening or a subduing, say covering. It actually, what it is, is just filaments or elements of the burlap
lock into or connect with the polyester cotton blend you know we've the way it's set up they just literally for the film it's attached to the other it's not a permanent solution and one of the considerations there is remember bow hunters are familiar with this there are several companies that offer quart size containers production
stuff that's used in the BDU uniforms and in the underpants, the brown underpants if you guys are in the service that had, and it's designed to reduce thermal image and it will reduce the overall IR signature no matter what it is that it permeates. So it comes in your socks, you know, the gun socks, it can be used with any of the other cloth.
And I'd recommend also redoing your clothing anyway, even if you have BDUs that were treated, they were only supposed to be kept for two years and then the BDO uniforms were supposed to be turned in for new uniforms that had fresh retardant, slash thermal and IR retardant agent permeating the cloth. I'm sorry, Robert, please go ahead. Well, my other concern though is that maybe things need to be tested under a black light to see if they show off something.
I don't know if there's any in the field detection for a black light, you know, it's a filter for that spectrum, there probably is. It's at the opposite end of the spectrum from infrared, so it's something we ought to also think about. That's a good point, and I would recommend that because, I will say this, we have not, at least I haven't, we have not had a chance to test
the plastic paints yet and that would be something that if someone would like to help us with that I would greatly appreciate it because again it's new stuff. We've just started playing with it. One of the advantages at least in conventional light, in other words conventional visible light range, it offers another option if the material or the plastic that's already being used on the rifle is highly reflective or highly gives off a high signature under certain spectrum then it would be at least it will offer some supplemental protection in one direction or another.
Now that would be the big test area. Otherwise with the cloth we have solutions. If you go to, and I hate, we don't mention names, I mean you don't hate them or anything, but Cabela's, you can go to most of Boer archery facilities and they have the IR reduction agent that you actually soak the clothing in and it would be recommended. I would agree that we should use it with everything that we've got anyway. Also to re-treat a lot of the used clothing or civilian clothing that we're picking up.
Head on. That's right. Robert, thank you. In fact, I'm going to touch on one more element of this when we come back from the hours, with the next hour. All set?
Robert, thank you very much. Appreciate that. And again, I'll address a little bit more, a couple of other ideas we've used in the past. As always, God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We are on the march, both day and night. Maintain your arms, maintain your standards. We'll maintain our honor and protect our liberty. God bless and good night. Thank you, Don. We'll be back in six minutes.
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