Mark Koernke discussed preparedness, ammunition, and firearms on November 26, 2007. He promoted shortwave broadcasting expansion on 9.265 MHz and advertised regional suppliers including Bailey's Discount Center in Indiana for bulk food storage, Georgia Arms for reloading supplies, and CenterFire Systems for AK platform spare parts. Koernke delivered extended commentary on resistance to government tyranny, rejected negotiation with what he termed an enemy bent on destruction, and addressed biblical interpretations of end times, arguing against passive acceptance and promoting active defense of constitutional rights. He fielded caller questions about Japanese WWII ammunition design and armor-piercing rounds, discussing technical specifications and historical ballistic research.
I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave, in this, the land of the free.
and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On the land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent.
Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate and your Christian values can't be taught According to the state you read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax You do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled
You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn.
and your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave?
Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the supreme law of the land. Preserve our great Republic in each God-given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame.
For even now as tyrants trampled each God-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside and dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, dill the land of the free?
of the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Kornke, one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, south, southwest and central. Well ladies and gentlemen you are listening to us on We the People Radio Network at wtprn.com. That's We the People Radio Network. Plus you will find us on AM and FM regular stations, micro stations and the CV Bay stations.
also on Galaxy 25 KU-band satellite go to we the people radio network WTPRN.com there you will find a banner you punch in those coordinates on your satellite receiver and you'll hear us like you're right here in the studio and you can listen 24 hours a day now one of the things I would ask also go to our we the people radio site and check out the sponsors there and support them they're providing services for you and they're
providing the support that keeps this network up and online. So by helping them and taking care of your needs, there's a mutual pact that's taking place to help support the Patriot Movement in general. So please take the time to do that. And of course, if you can donate to We the People Radio Network to help them out, well, guess what, guys? You're helping all broadcasters out. We're going to make sure that satellite dishes up and online. We're going to make sure that other systems are in place. Soon we're going to have shortwave 13.570.
for the last hour that you just heard, which will be part of the consortium of tools that we have at our disposal. We will be having shortwave of this hour as soon as we can find an hour that's open on somebody's transmitter. That takes time. Because remember, this hour is actually a pretty good one for shortwave because of the time difference across the country. Remember, there's a three hour spread from east to west.
That's quite a variance, especially when you remember how a shortwave works. But we are addressing the issue. We're working on a problem. And as a matter of fact, get your pen and paper ready. Tonight, an independent hour that we're doing on a shortwave is going to be on 9.26.
930 to 1030 so for all of our friends let any of your friends know who don't have computer we understand that we're working on internet here but a lot of you know people who do not use computer but they do have a shortwave well ask them to tune in tonight at 9.2 regular shortwave on WINB that will be from 930 to 1030 I know it's the odd hour the half hour bottom of the hour to the bottom of the hour 930
to 10.30 PM tonight and we're going to have the shortwave programming up there so you can tune in, check us out. We would greatly appreciate feedback. In other words, if you're able to listen, if you could let us know, drop a letter, let us know how we're coming in on the meter and whether or not you can hear us by sending a letter to PBN PO Box 194, Dexter, Michigan 48130. Again, that's PBN PO Box 194.
Dexter, Michigan 48130. And if you have any other questions or if you'd like an information packet, send a SASC self-addressed stamped envelope with two stamps on it. And we'll throw in as much information and all the new flyers, the how to find a sheet you can copy and give out wherever you are. Now I ask you to do that whenever you can to let everybody know about We The People radio network, about the Intel report, all the different programming that everybody's doing.
do a simple how to find a sheet and just keep giving it away. The basic issue of course is for people who are interested in Ron Paul. This is one of the great conduits and one of the reasons that Ron Paul is able to raise almost five million dollars in one day. It's because of all of you. It's because of these networks, these independent freestanding broadcasting systems. We need your help to spread the word. So tonight, 9.30 to 10.30, 9.265.
Regular Shortwave, it's W-I-N-B is the broadcasting unit that's the transmitting system. And we'll be up, Nancy and myself, for one hour. It's the odd hour out, 9.30 to 10.30 p.m. And it should be every Monday from now on, but we might actually, we're gonna be adding more days as we go. This is just the first. I want to thank all of our friends for helping to pitch in. We're working on the other frequencies for our other hours here on We the People and Liberty Tree Radio. We're gonna get all of that done. It's just gonna take a little time.
but it's getting there so uh... i promised this last hour that there were a series of contact points we give out now here's another thing and i want to say thank you to our friends up in the indiana area uh... get you if you're up in the uh... evansville indiana area uh... actually if you are north judson if everybody knows where north judson is if you're from indiana right now there's a place called bailey's discount center
and they have a website baileysdiscountcenter.com so you can check them out. Baileys, B-A-I-L-E-Y, apostrophe S, and it's the same, baileysdiscountcenter.com. Their address is 590 South Range Road. The town is North Judson, Indiana.
46366. What happened, a friend of ours just let us know, they got a couple of truckloads of Del Monte, number 10, one gallon cans of food, beans, corn, all of the basics plus ketchup in the one gallon cans, $2 a can no matter what it is. Now it's one of those, this one like a discount place where they have like distress or
truckloads of stuff they've bought from a truck rack, who knows what it is. But everything looks really good, it's all del Monte. It doesn't have to be del Monte, I could be the name brand as far as I'm concerned. But this is a way for you to put additional food on the shelf, okay? Lots and lots and lots of extra food on the shelf. Everybody goes a one gallon can, well that's a lot of food, not when you put a bunch of people up to the table people.
And trust me, in the future, when you open something, there is no waste. Everything is going to be used. You're going to have to use it. Soup is the solution there. That's a big hint. You open several cans, you create a big pile of it, a big pot of hobo stew. Everybody will eat it. Trust me, it's what you got. And there is no turning up your nose because it's all we're going to serve. Now, anyway, that's just my opinion and should be yours too because we are not going to waste food. 5900 South Range Road.
North Judson is the Indiana, 4-6-3-6-6 is the zip code. Now here's their phone number if you want to find out more. 5-7-4-8-9-6-3-8-8-9. Now this is kind of a regional thing or a state thing and if you're close to them it would be worth it for you to take your truck, go up there, buy a bunch of these one gallon cans, buy as many cases as you can afford for $2 a can.
and that's a lot of cheap food so that you can really quickly put a food reserve system together on the shelf. It's emergency food put on standby. You pick what it is. There's a wide variety of items that they have on the shelf. Take advantage of it. Get them now. $2 a can. That's awfully cheap insurance. Now that's BaileysDiscountCenter.com. It's their website. Word, of course, Baileys. No, apostrophe, just Baileys. B-A-I-L-E-Y-S. CountCenter.com.
and five seven four eight nine six three eight eight nine is the number to call you can get hold of them that way to find out when they're open they're open Monday through Friday from eight p eight a.m. to eight p.m. I'd say that's pretty good that's one now number two again one more time Georgia arms now these people provide components reloading supplies of all types and ammunition they have RCVS Lee
C.C.I., Nosler, Winchester, etc., etc., etc., remember the King of San. Anyway, 770-459-5117. Again, that's 770-459-5117. That's Georgia Arms. They're located in Villa Rica, Georgia. That's D-I-L-L-A.
space rica r-i-c-a georgia and their toll free number is eight hundred six two four six eight six one they have bullets they got empty cases virgin brass uh... reloading components for lee r-c-b-s hey guys all the cool companies i like
Also, powder and primers, take advantage of that, get what you can while you can, and then just keep plugging away at it. Now, they're in Georgia, so if you're on California, maybe a little pricey shipping, but if you're in the Georgia, North and South Carolina, Northern Florida, Alabama, Tennessee or Kentucky areas, well, they're not too far away from you there, and so it makes it worth going down and picking stuff up and bringing it back. You'll notice them bounce around the country. Just went from Indiana all the way down to Georgia.
Now, one more time, and this is for you guys who have AKMs, AKS's, AK47's, remaining AK47's, Bulgarian, etc., etc., etc. If you've got those, you need spare parts. Now, we want to put an inventory on the shelf and create an armorers kit system. CenterFireSystems.com, okay, is the website. CenterFireSystems.com, 1-800-950-1231.
Again, that's center fire systems. Their number is 1-800-950-1231. Write down this number. It's A-PKG-L, AK deal number 3. It's five pistol grips, five gas pistons, and five two-cell mag pouches. They look to be canvas, really nice ones. Total cost, $7.99. Guys, you can't...
You can't buy the mag pouches and make them make, you can't buy the material and make the mag pouches for that. Let alone the gas pistons or the pistol grips. You bust them, just take the old junk off, put another one on. Yes, I know I could improvise, but why do that one for less than 50 cents? I can buy spare grips or spare gas pistons to put on the weapon. Boom, done.
So take advantage of this. There's other deals that they have. There's a whole bunch. You've got to look at their web page or get all the latest catalog. They've got some nice spare parts kits. They have the stripper clip guide that I have mentioned on Weapons Wednesday. They have both the stripper clip guides, plus the broken shell extractors, so many stripper clips, and a chest pouch as a package deal.
So all the stuff you're looking for in the AK category might be here. Okay, just gotta go through it. They've got another one which is AK chest pouch, a rifle case, broken shell extractor, stripper clips, stripper clip guide, and a couple other cool trinkets and tools that are really nice to have for your rifle.
So if you're doing a 5-10 system where you're trying to build up a fire team group of five, you know, five complete kits of something, or for a squad, ten complete kits for everybody, then this is the way to go because you got lots and lots of stuff for very little money spent. Pistol grips and butt stocks on the AK, good idea if you're going to stick with the standard beaver tail and the standard pistol grip to have spares.
It doesn't mean they get broken all the time, but when they get broken, why have to fight it? You can put the proper part back on the rifle, you're all done. Otherwise, you'll have to improvise. Break out the old pair of knife, break out the rat tail file, and you can make a stock if you had to. But this, for a few pennies, means that you can, well, concentrate all your labor on other things and spend less time doing it.
So take advantage of that. Again, call Centerfire Systems 1-800-950-1231. Last but not least, and not the last really either, GunPartsGuy.com. 360-906-8369. Guys, we come back. Stripper clips, parts, pieces, and assemblies for the AR.
for the FNFAL, for the AR, and for others. We'll let you know about that. This is the Intel report. It is Monday. We'll be back in about three minutes.
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And ladies and gentlemen, we are back. I just want to run that through for a reason because it's one of the best songs. Actually, Poker Face does great work, but Rather Die Than Be Your Slave expresses direct feelings about how I look at our enemy. You know what? I'm not going to be stuck in a detention camp. We're not going to be. We stink you. You sink your teeth into their throat if that's all you can do. Because they plan on killing you anyway. Now, I will say something and I have said many times in the last several months to a lot of people both on and off the air, but I'm going to repeat this again.
There is no dealing with this enemy. There are no deals made. The only thing you're doing is trying to make a deal with liars and deceivers who have murdered women, children, and men in their homes. If you are stupid or foolish enough to think that you can make a deal with creatures like this, you're not postponing it, you're just changing where you are on the menu. And we're all on the same menu if they have their way. So for everybody listening, better them than us. Make sure they go first.
If all you can do is put one underneath you when the time comes, that's one less to bother the next family in the next house. If you can put them all down and you go hunt the rest, well that is a solution that needs to be looked at. Okay? Moose season when it opens up, there ain't enough moose going around once we all start hunting. Everybody understand that? Now that's as blatant as I can get, because I've been listening to this a lot of nonsense now that over for many years here where, well I really gotta make a deal.
I'm not with those guys and you notice that everyone of these people who's tried to make a deal eventually they've been called out and after they made their little deal they've just faded off to nothing or shriveled off into you know to being petty little things that still whimper and whine off in the corner. If you notice that, if you paid attention because when you try to acquiesce to your enemy, like I said before, they don't love you and they're never going to love you.
ain't nothing you're gonna do to make them feel good about you. You're already on a list, you're already something they hate, we're all part of something they hate called the American, the Our American System. They have to try and kill us off in order to bring the other boobies in so that they can usurp this land. So for anybody out there who's stupid enough to think that there are any deals that can be made, I'd like to slap you through the microphone right now. There are no deals, they are liars.
The only thing you're doing is trying to convince you to be stupid enough to be part of the divide and conquer scam. Now, we all know better than that. Everybody there listening, if you're listening to this program, you should know better too. Now again, we have the resources. We have the most important weapon and tool at our disposal. We have our minds. We use that first. Now, we must be physically competent to be able to defend ourselves, tooth and nail. And by the way, where did that term come from?
Does everybody understand that tooth and nail process? Well, actually that goes back even to the period of the founding fathers and before, but it's the basic rule of the law of nature and God, in that all animals, all creatures on this planet, a creation of God, have some form of defense mechanism.
The smallest mouse, when his or her den is threatened, and the offspring are there, laid bare, will fight even though it appears futile. Why? Because it is a natural right and a natural obligation. Now, we're better than mice. We're better than green bugs. We aren't cockroaches. We're not insects that are hyper-specialized. We're human beings. More importantly, we're given a God-given gift of liberty.
We have an obligation and responsibility to hold this ground for however long is necessary Wherever we are in the writings of history as God sees it that's his choice Not ours and for everybody who wants to interpret it so that they can do the weezer lay-down stuff Which is what a lot of people like to try and do I am not going to embrace that in any way shape or form I will not in my will not surrender nor will I abandon our form of government and I'm not going to acquiesce it to a bunch of slobs or mostly we have brains that make
peas appear to be the size of planets. It's hard to describe what kind of sickle-fant scumbags that we're actually dealing with, most of which are dumber than a box of rocks. That's the sad part. If you look at the eyes of some of these creatures you're dealing with, it's like, what in the hell is wrong with you people that you're letting these slobs get away with this? Take a look at their eyes. I watch body language in their eyes, the way they physically respond. These characters are dirt you wipe. Basically, they're rugs you should be wiping your feet on.
Instead, people are allowing them to accelerate themselves to these positions of, quote-unquote, higher authority, when in reality all they're supposed to be is our employees. Unfortunately, because a lot of people have become lazy in the process, they have allowed for the employees to get away with murder, and there's been mayhem in the house. Well, guess what? We're going to have to clean the house out.
Now, I will plant this seed. Back in 1783, after we won the war, there is a period of time that most people do not know. You don't see it in most history books, but if you get a good one, and it's actually honest, and it's a compendium of the, like, a condensed history of the American Revolution, and usually it's a fairly thick book, it'll cover this period at the end of the American Revolution that was most critical, and it's where we deported one-fifth of the population of the United States.
heard about that well yes she did you probably didn't passing but didn't pay attention it's part of our process as christians with regard to justice tempered with mercy now for the socialist in charge uniform mass graves with body stack like core like cord would literally with the same piece of rope for tying of this with the socialist do the those who don't believe in god who believe that the the many state should rule the socialists are the ones who created industrial execution
on a scale so massive you cannot perceive it. It is hard to understand. It is hard to accept. Because, and typically this is the case with Americans, I could never see doing that to somebody. So the problem is you can't understand that there are these other sick in the head minds who would like to, not only did they enjoy doing it overseas, but now they want to do it here in America. Okay, the same nutcases are over here. And there's a bunch of their little minions that want to plug into the same BS.
Well, we're not going to let it happen. You can't let it happen. Go into the other room, take a look at your family and decide, oh, you want to see them all dead because everybody goes, oh, oh, they resist them. They're going to kill us. If you do not resist them, they are going to kill you. And it might be in dribblets and it might be in one chop or chunk or, you know, piece at a time. But they're planning on destroying everything that you see around you as you know it today. And that's why we do the programming that we do here. So again, have heart, be strong.
act as men in your society, as part of our society, as part of our Western civilization. That is what we are doing. That's what we're about.
For all of our friends across the planet that are listening, have heart. We're not going to let this country fall to this pack of scabbiest thieves. They're going to tell you otherwise. They've got ABC, NBC, CBS. They got Fox News. They got UPN 50. They got all the others. Trust me. That's why, again, if you want to watch those, go, you know, you can switch over right now and you know what? You're going to get the same type no matter which of the channels you choose. Another thing real quick here, I've noticed, you know, we've got the new the new order of the new edict that, you know, if you don't have
new digital television, you're not going to get any of the regular television programs. You know what I say to that? I guess I'm not getting any of the new television programs. But then again, with the tripe that they've been broadcasting, why would I care? Instead, you know what? I've got a beautiful video library, I've got thousands and thousands of tapes, and you all should be doing the same thing, discs and tapes. And this will force you to actually focus on the subject that needs to be covered.
Rather than plugging in some other little bit of entertainment, plug in something that has to do with basic survival techniques. Hand-to-hand combat, basic defense technologies, how to preserve food. It'll force you to go another direction, but if they want to cut off the television, all the better for the rest of America. We're going to cut them off. In fact, it'll work just reverse.
Anyway, we're at the bottom of the hour break. We'll be back in three minutes here.
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And ladies and gentlemen, we are back. We do have a line of callers calling up here. Hold for just a second, not long. One more time, real quick, you heard it at the bottom of the hour here, but Gun Part Sky 360-906-8369. If you have the FN FAL, James and the guys there have the information on the stripper clips. I've mentioned this many times. Take advantage of getting these stripper clips either metric or inch.
the stripper clip guides so you can load the magazines. Now remember the rifles, in many cases they actually have a stripper clip guide built into the roof of the dust cover depending on which model it is. But the stripper clips are a priceless tool. You will find out just exactly how easy they are to use and how much time it saves when loading magazines. You can get stripper clip guides for the AK-74 mags for the AK-47 magazines and for the AR-15 of course.
There's a number of different solutions. There are also, by the way, most people don't realize, there are a number of stripper clip systems for other rifles that are out there. One of them, the M1 carbine. They were more complicated because a carbine, each one of the carbine stripper clip guides actually has a magazine guide on it, which makes them a little bulkier, but also, you don't have to fumble for anything, it's all attached to the stripper clip.
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So this saves you a lot of time and reduces the cyclic turnaround, time to keep your troops in the field active. Other things, real quick here, now there's been a lot of comment about ammunition. As we know, we did a great job. We have cleared out whole companies, but there is five, four, five by 39 ammunitions still available. Our guns out of the Chicago area, if you do a search for our guns dot com on the web, on the internet, you will find them that way.
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one of the things that i'm the reason i touched on part of this especially with what we were discussing before the bottom the hour is the the comment that you know what the book of revelations says now i'm gonna give you guys a real quick brief here on what my advice why work as a ninety four b intelligence analyst i trained a lot of interrogators but also trained a lot of defectors uh... these are russians they were bulgarians we had romanians we had uh... checks we had polls uh... we had georgians you name it we had a little bit everybody
And in some cases, they weren't anybody really super fancy. They were just grunts or in some cases, and senior NCOs. Some officers, depending upon task that were brought in that worked as interpreters under the language element of the Intel schools. And one of the things they talked about is the use of that kind of propaganda. You know, because as I mentioned in the chat room here, the enemy can read too. And trust me, they've looked at the Bible.
There are people in 1919, people in 1923, people in 1927, people in 1933 who said, this is the end of the world, look at the book of Revelation, oh they have the mark, and you know what, most of what was promoted for that was promoted by the communists. They had infiltrated the church. I will remind everybody, take a look at the pictures from 1939. You will find Russian Orthodox
priests and hierarchies standing next to Stalin, even though many of their fellow brother clergymen had already gone to the gulags. These are the ones who hadn't because they were kept around. And Stalin needing more cannon fodder for the machine by 1941, all of a sudden brought the Christian priests out of the woodwork, so to speak, to rally whoever they could because it needed everybody to die for the Communists who hated Christianity.
Isn't that interesting? Well, every so often they printed text having to do with the idea that it's the end of times, throw your hands in the air, why worry about it, it's the end of the world as we know it, la da da da da da da. Why? Because they'd read the book too and they figured if they used proper wording, they could plug everybody into this Weezer philosophy. Now, it isn't any different today. The first rule is this, we may know the season, but we're not going to know the exact time.
And also, I can't find anywhere in the book where it says, help out the devil. In other words, promote to get it done faster. Wrong. It says, resist and hold every step of the way. Teach more. Do what you can. Continue to be part of life. Now, this gets to the point where actually going all the way back to the first century, you might recall the Paulian philosophies that came out. One of the little lines that's out of Paul's writing is, if a man does not work, he shall not eat.
Why did this come about? Well, there were a lot of people who thought it would really be nice, and human beings by nature would like to be lazy. Well, the loonies of the field thing sounds really good if you want to be a first century hippie. And so a lot of the Christians that were converted, many of them felt, well, you know, I don't have to do anything because heaven is just around the corner. You'll do all the work for me. And so they actually became sloths. They became leeches. They became people who let everybody else work. Oh, great job. Go out there and pick that field again. Great corn.
Oh, how about a bushel of wheat? Well, what a gleaning. Oh, that's that Old Testament thing. I just have to be a lily in the field. You guys will toil for me and I'll just sit and wait until it comes to me, doesn't it? That is exactly one of the problems that they were dealing with.
That's why the comment was finally made, although it actually was traditional anyway. If a man does not work, he shall not eat. Now that doesn't mean that you don't take care of the widows. That doesn't mean that you don't take care of the elderly. There was a whole process for that. And all you need to do is look at the requirements, as I said earlier, with our Western philosophy of how we take care of our own. We're not a pack of dogs, not a pack of wargs, not wolves. We're not sheep either, we're sheepdogs.
very well balanced between the two worlds. We got Leo who called back from Massachusetts, Leo, we got, we'll jump in there and then we got Rob from Texas. Yeah, I'll get out quickly, but I was trying to just say that Christianity is pushed as small-c communism and that's where people get all confused. And so I think that that's something that you've got to take into account in the greater society.
Well, one of the problems I've seen, first of all, it's a contradiction because the Christian Communist, remember, of the Sandinista days, which is it's in conflict. The very nature of the Soviet, I'll give you the best example, one of the tricks that was used by the GRU and the KGB back in their heyday from the 20s through to the 90s was to, for instance, put a Bible into an agent's mailbox and wait to see if he would report it.
If the agent would not report that the Bible was in his mailbox, he would be arrested and typically was executed. It wasn't even a discussion. If he reported the Bible, then obviously he was still, you know, of the proper mindset with regard to attacking the concept of Christianity. And so he was promoted typically, or at least was kept on the payroll for the time being until the next test. I think you're missing what I was saying. No, go ahead. I'm sorry.
I was trying to say that people considered Jesus Christ a small-c communist, you know, take from the rich and give to the poor. And so that's why you're having a problem here. You see, it's conceptual. Oh, well, yeah, it'd be just a reverse as the case. Even in fact, both Christ, one of the things I have a problem with that idea is that Christ in and of himself actually worked. Now, in most every one of the disciples, one of the things to remember, even after Christ left, went out and worked.
That's one of the ways that I've modeled how it is that I've done everything that I've done in the Patriot movement You know one of the things they've had a hard time with and if you recall years ago when I was speaking and he works at the U of M It's like when your point well if I hadn't been working and I was and I was just you know working just in the Patriot room Which I should have done actually and to be quite honest most of what I did at the you or whatever I did where I worked Kind of focused around still what we were doing in the Patriot effort
No matter how you go, they ain't gonna like what you're doing. Okay, and I understand- I'll get off anyway with somebody else on. Okay, thank you Leo. Appreciate that. I understand what you're talking about too. There again, no, I don't think Christ would fit right in with the Soviet international, and as was typically the case in Russia, which is one of the things I got into like in the chat room real quick, is with the Soviet, Christianity was considered to be the arch enemy.
So there are other groups that didn't get touched at all or hardly got any pressure put on them at all, but the Christian population was defamated. That is who you will find on the evicted list that measures in the tens and tens and tens of millions. Part of the problem is that they infiltrated into the priesthood or the Christian churches, promoted a specific, you know, the lay down your arms agenda after all, it's the end of the world, why worry about things, yada yada yada. We'll lose the field with her either.
And it helped to divide and conquer. That was the whole idea. So that they could roll in and then begin the mass killings. Which is exactly where they plugged it in. For some it was the end of the world. Because they bought into the lie. And that's something we can't allow. We're not going to buy into the lie. Anyway, this is the intel report. We got Mark, we got Rob. As soon as we come back, Rob from Texas. We'll be back in three minutes.
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during World War II the Japanese had a 6.5mm round that had a little bit of PT, but the PETN and the core is an explosive round. How is that better than in the area or the other round? Well, that's a good point. Now you're coming up with the 6.5 Japanese, it's a semi-rim. First of all the Japanese are semi-rim cartridges, both the 6.5 and the 7.7.
uh... the h e round that they came up with this much like the uh... incendiary tracer or the a p i t that the uh... i'm a piercing incendiary tracer that the russians came up with uh... the design of the japanese established was much uh... much like uh... system that came up in uh... frankford arsenals research work for the thirties so chances are they the japanese got that is a
aside maybe an aside from some spy work they did in the united states back during the late thirties the uh... round itself was designed to shred uh... we was hope that it would do the same thing that are incendiary uh... a p rounds did with uh... aircraft tank it was quite effective uh... the biggest problem they had is that unlike the japanese who didn't use self-sealing tanks even with an on the uh... san a p incendiary or an a p h e
our tanks were self-sealed so that typically they gave the pilot more time to rescue the plane or at least save himself. They were more than effective enough. The most fascinating thing about it is when you look at rifle rounds that were developed in this area, they basically took air defense artillery technology, everything that you would see in say a 75 or an 88 or a 90 millimeter gun, and put it inside a rifle shell.
Many of these actually had spin timers inside them. They had, you know, for safety impact fuses. They had a number of different types of impact fuse detonators. They're very sophisticated and very intricate for the size. When you look at a 6.5 millimeter bullet or a 30 caliber bullet even, you're looking at a pretty small object there. And yet they built these in mass production and were quite successful with them. A replacement or a variation that if you go to there are three books.
They're done by the Frank... They're done by... I can't remember the author's name, forgive me, because I don't have it right at the top of my desk right here. There are three books that were done on the Frankfurt Arsenal, which was the US military's, US Army's research arsenal for many, many decades. What the gentleman did is he went to the National Archives and he pulled out all of their production and research data. And these are phenomenal works that are done. They actually show cutaways of each of the projectiles
and the specifications as laid down by Frankfurt Arsenal. And we had comparable solutions to what the Japanese did. Now, remember the Japanese solution was cheap and simple. The Japanese A were always pressed for raw materials. So their cheapest solution was usually their best and first choice for mass production simply because, again, they had a wide frontier. They were covering most of the Pacific. You could replace these highly sensitive
Penta type charges with a couple of different ideas that the Germans came up with. They came up with a waste explosive. It was actually very easy to make. Black powder could be substituted. The pressure wave would be shorter. In other words, it wouldn't be quite as strong. But, you know, black powder is readily available. And penetrator rounds, slash HE round of this type, could be easily reproduced with using a ball round as the basis. You want to come up with a jig to center the bullet. You'd want to, again, bore the bullet.
accordingly. And one of the tricks now, I'll give you an idea, one of the tricks that we used years ago, using a supervel or a Winchester hollow point, I would bore the round from the face, I would liquefy the black powder utilizing alcohol. Now what happens is when you liquefy the powder with alcohol, what happens is it doesn't change significantly the chemical composition of the powder.
I then load the cavity that I've drilled out to the base of the bullet. Because remember, a hollow point, the cup, the base is the cup for the casting. I would fill, to a given point, the, say, 50% of the depth of the cavity with this liquefied black powder, which will then, as you let it sit, the alcohol will leach off and it will re-dry. You then take a rifle magnum primer or pistol primer, depending on what you've used for your bore, for your channel.
set that in place and then put a BB and then just take a small amount of glue. And I wouldn't use hot glue because that's rubber. It creates impact, soft impact, but the BB facing on top of the primer becomes your firing pin. Now you can use a little dab of epoxy or you can use a little couple dabs of lacquer enamel paint. What you create is a jacketed hollow point HE round.
And if you want to enhance that, you could even go so far as to replacing the BB with, for instance, a piece of sharpened metal towards the face out, but flat and tapered slightly on the impact area towards the primer. It's purely a matter of how motivated you want to get with creativity for the amount of material that you pack into the bullets casing. They were effective. Actually, the Russians were the ones to kind of throw everything in one basket. You've probably seen some of these.
There's 7.62x54 Russian rimmed armor piercing incendiary tracer rounds. Everything in one basket to include the AP penetrator. So that would be an option. Okay, thank you. You're welcome. There's a, there's a, Rob, for any of our listeners, AP rounds, if you get a chance, now I wouldn't, don't go sacrificing bullets nowadays because we can't afford to, you're going to need every bullet you've got. But if you get a chance and go to the range and recover bullets,
You will find in a lot of ranges when you recover lead that people have been firing M2AP rounds or they've been firing a lot of the 38K ammo. You will find that if you were to take some of the bullets, take them over to the saw and cut them in half, you'll find some with the AP penetrator still in them because the bullets may have snicked softly into a sandbar or sandback.
And you'll see the difference in the different types of penetrators. Now, American penetrators are a little harder to cut in half because they actually are really well made steel. That's why I say don't waste any M2AP rounds on the range or to find out what they do. Trust me, they work, they've already been tested, you don't need to waste that ammunition doing anything like that. Save the black tip ammo, it's priceless. American AP penetrators are round almost to a razor point.
and that they are a razor point you can actually scribe metal with them i've done it many times a lot of times you would save the ap penetrators from uh... what we've recovered and actually use a mister punches that gives you an idea how hard they are russian philosophy and the princess the german or the european philosophy with the p penetrators is that they actually be flat faced they may be comical but they typically are not tapered like a regular projectile
More like a pistol or conical pistol projectile and this penetrator is inside a lead sheet or the cast inside, you know the lead copper jacket, full metal jacket casing on the outside. It does not have the same armor penetrating capability our M2AP rounds have or our M2AP 50 caliber rounds. So again, don't waste them. If you have black tip ammunition and it really is black tip AP in .30 out 6 or in .308 very well.
or if you have some of the Israeli, most people don't realize this and I gotta warn you about this, there's a bunch of Israeli 308 ammunition that people bought and they did not realize that it was actually 308 AP, armor piercing. How that came about is a whole story unto itself, but if that ammunition is out there, I would keep that in reserve also because the 30 at 6 or 308 AP performs pretty much the same way at 300 yards.
very effective against pretty much any kind of armor that it comes up against and will penetrate a certain amount of homogeneous steel so it is useful there's an whole lot you're going to wear that's going to slow it down
How many millimeters of armor will it penetrate? An M2AP round. Now this is one thing to remember Rob. An M2AP round performs better at 300 yards. That's part of the geometry of the round than it does at point blank range. But I've penetrated 3 quarters of an inch of homogeneous armor plate at 300 yards.
I've got a piece of steel here I probably should take a picture of again laying around here somewhere uses a paperweight. It's where we cut it out of some armor that we got off a Stuart Light tank because we used to have a whole tank yard here to our north. And we tested all these rounds. Years ago in the 70s I was doing all kinds of ballistic tests with everything, literally like a laboratory. And this particular round, it penetrated but had not gone all the way through one inch of homogeneous steel. And it looked just like a water splash like you see in a still photograph.
And it's just, I mean, that's exactly how it looks. The metal is curled away. It's got a little bit of a roll to it, like it's the water, you know, curling out and there's little spalled around the metal. AP penetrator is just going through the other side of the metal, just trying to, you know, to peek through. The M2AP rounds are priceless and can be loaded in, for instance, if you have the bullets pulled and they're already sitting there, they'd be awfully nice to load into like a 300-win mag cartridge. Right. There's powder sitting there behind it, but...
M2-06 or in the 308. Now the 308s can be loaded with the M2-AP. The coefficient of the ballistic performance will be the same. Just follow the specs or powder charge for the weight of the bullet. Okay, well thank you Mark. You're welcome, Rob. Thank you. And we're at the top of the aisle already. We could use two more hours like this. I want to say thank you for all of our guys who called in. Leo, Rob, George, appreciate that. As always God bless the Republic. Death to the new world order.
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