November 21, 2007
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Mark Koernke discussed weapons, ammunition, and combat preparedness on Weapons Wednesday. The episode covered stripper clips and bandoliers for rapid magazine reloading in combat situations, emphasizing discipline in fire and the importance of topping off magazines after engagement. Koernke detailed the use of bolt-action rifles (Lee Enfield, Springfield 1903, Mosin-Nagant, K98 Mauser) with stripper clips, shotgun tactics using the Ithaca Model 37, and practical ammunition management. A caller asked about HK rifle brass ejection and reloading, and another caller from Florida inquired about converting standard rounds to hollow points due to local restrictions.
- stripper clips
- bandoliers
- ammunition
- combat load
- ithaca model 37
- shotgun
- bolt-action rifles
- mosin-nagant
- lee enfield
- k98 mauser
- hk91
- magazine reloading
- weapons wednesday
- preparedness
- fal rifle
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat and speaking low to me, he said, we fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave, in this, the land of the free.
and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent.
Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled.
You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've taken Satan's number You've traded in your name You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm And keep our country deep and yet put men of God in jail harass your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevailed Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn
and your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedom for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave?
Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As Iowoki vanished in the midst for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame.
For even now as tyrants trample each God-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, dill the land of the free?
One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories south, southwest, east, and north. Well ladies and gentlemen you are listening to us on We The People Radio Network at wtprn.com. We're also on Liberty Tree Radio dot 4mg dot com. And you can find us on AM and FM major and micro stations along with CB base stations east and west of the Mississippi. We're also on Galaxy 25 KU-band satellite.
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Friend to the West, I'm probably gonna get another dish here shortly with KU band and regular C. It's another galaxy frame, got it. It'll be, you know, don't cost anything but the gas to get over there to get it. And if you can get hold of a dish like that and then set it up and say, for instance, your relocation point, that would be a very good idea. Now, if you're gonna put a satellite dish up in a remote area and you're worried about, well, people will see it. Guys, if it's a white satellite dish, it can become a camouflaged satellite dish. You won't hurt the reception at all.
Okay, if it's a black dish, why leave it just black? Go to the dollar store, get some of those cool 99 cent colors, and you match the background that the dish is going to be in. Don't just do it in a standard camouflage pattern. Take the colors that your terrain match it to the environment, you know, the area where the dish, you know, say, here's a way to do it. Put the dish in place, step back, look at the background. Match the paint to the background. Okay.
It's not that hard, okay? It's like if you have trees in the background, like a tree line, wouldn't it make sense to do grays and blacks and say earth colors to match the trees so that when you look at it, unless you're looking for it, you know, you just glance that way, oh look, nothing looks major. People are not attentive. Just reverse what everybody thinks. I mean, snoops are out there, okay, all the time. But people in general, the enemy counts on this, learn from what they do.
The average person isn't paying attention. When you camouflage something to look like the environment it's in, most people just doo-doo-doo, keep right on going. Okay? That's right. So that's a subnote. Now, today is... We command everything for as far as we can see, and we have an equal opportunity to neutralize the target.
especially if it's an aggressor, the idea is neutralized. Put them down, stop them. Or in other words, put big leaking holes in them. And again, weapons Wednesday, a lot of things to cover. Keep your pen and paper handy. We'll give out names, dates, and places. And of course, we always mention them because, and by the way, especially right now, a lot of you have been asking about combat loads. You're going to see a lot of the, if you've gone to our YouTube videos, you'll notice I've been emphasizing Webgear for the moment.
We're going to be expanding beyond that real quick because equipping for the New World Order Part 1 and 2 covered gear to a degree. We're going to get a little more detail with a couple of these little 10 minute videos. One of them is going to cover combat preparation for your ammunition packaging. Talked about it and I've talked about it in different ways.
We need to put a little video out there so you can see physically and you can understand, okay, here's how you do it. And it won't take that long, very straightforward. We did this with the canning tapes. We've done this with a lot of other stuff that's out there that we have through, that we've done over the years through VHS and DVD. YouTube is an excellent tool. It gives us a chance to cover specific points and tweak them to help you out. Well, one of the things is availability of ammunition in a combat situation. In other words, turnaround time. Marks out there, bop, bop, bop.
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Now, this is beyond your magazine load capacity, what it is you've carried, your combat load. The ammunition in the bandoliers gives you the capability to quickly reload magazines. Now, if anybody's ever sat there on the couch or in the den or in the gun room and sit there and reload mags to go to the range, you all know that a handful of chiclets are not too difficult to manage when you've got this nice comfortable table.
sometimes with a piece of carpet on it and you're do-do-do loading your 30-round mag or loading your 20-round mag or whatever. Well, it's in the field. Okay, and you're being fired upon probably or let's put it this way. Your buddies are covering you but Mark has now got to get his act together so that he can contribute to the firefight.
Now, rather than a handful of chiclets, which all of a sudden, you remember the bullets get really big and the magazine gets really small, and all of a sudden the adrenaline level is very high, let's change the formula a little bit, okay? With a magazine, with a stripper guide for stripper clips, I can put that on the end of the magazine. Now, ideally this is for like the FAL, the G3, the M14, slash the M1A.
This is also true with the Mini-14. There are stripper guides for those and there are stripper guides for the AK-47 for that magazine. And, and by the way, little sub note, there are stripper guides available for the AK-74 mags, especially for the East German mags. They came in at the same time years ago.
Well, you take a stripper guide, you put it on the end of the magazine, on the top of it to the back where the base of the bullet sits. Now, in your little bandolier, you pull out one five round stripper clip. You put the stripper clip into the stripper clip guide. It lays right on top of the magazine. You take your thumb and you go, you push down on the top of the top of the cartridge and it's exactly what it sounds like. And they're done.
Pull the stripper clip out put the next five round load a stripper clip in fuck there you go five more rounds Now look as quickly as it takes if you do that four times instead of trying to handle 20 rounds loose You've just loaded a magazine it can answer then you can describe it. That's right And the other thing is this remember let's say that you just needed firepower now you need the ammunition now at least five rounds or ten rounds and oh my goodness We're gonna be overrun I can stop drop that magazine in the weapon and boom
you're back in the fight and they can't be sure of whether or not you got another load of magazine, they're not going to ask that. You're going to suppress the target, chances are they're not going to want to leak anymore. So whatever else is coming at you is probably going to take cover, at least for a bit. This buys you a few warm moments. Take the stripper guide, put it into the other magazine that's not loaded yet, because you've got plenty empties, hopefully, if you're able to keep them. And you load up a few more. Now you've still got ammunition in the weapon, and you're prepping another mag right away.
This is much better than a handful of chiclets and a lot of panic as you drop things in the mud or things fall around. Okay, you see what I mean? It will help you. Now, I qualified this because I want you to call if you have the FNFA-L. I want you to call the gun parts guy right away. If you have an FNFA-L and we got some real cool pictures, I got to acknowledge this before we go farther.
Thank you for the really cool pictures of the fire teams using the FAL that are out there. I appreciate that. Now, you all got FALs, you got lots of mags. This is the next step. You need to go call Gun Parts Guy at 360-906-8369. Have both the metric and the inch stripper clips and the magazine guides in stock. If they have the bag, the bandoliers, which are designed for them, get them.
If they don't, go find one, okay, just get one for a sample if need be, if they're pricey, because it's a matter of your wallet. And then talk to your wife or your girlfriend or your mom and ask her to take a look at that and say, hey, we need to go to the clothing store, to the clothing shop and we need to buy some of the cheapest OD green or camouflage cloth that's on sale.
Cotton just we're talking minimal you'll see when you see what these bandoliers are made out of they're not made out of anything fancy and Mom or your girlfriend or your or your wife can sew up a whole bunch of these now the only other thing you need when you make those bandoliers up is A things would be kind of nice one is when you go to the sewing shop you'll find these big cards usually of cheap cheap cheap Chinese safety pins, okay
now the safety pins you want to be in in o d or black or something other than krohn krohn kinda sticks out of the belt will build it up to it's changing that shane things offer a shooting opportunity solely we can get them in black if you can get them in uh... green if you get a man great whatever color get him in other than silver possible
uh... get a whole bunch of them check out your distress shots are your surplus stores route only similar to surplus industrial surplus stores it's amazing what shows up there you always want to check out junkets at these uh... massive warehouses with piles of this and piles of that you never know what you're going to find we want to put a safety pin on each one of the straps that goes on the bandelier and this gives you an adjustment tool so that way if it's you in other words you don't want it such as flopping around so a lot of guys what they do is they adjust the length use a safety pin to lock it in place you're all done it's that simple
Anyway, the only other thing you want to do is if there are cardboard inserts for those bandoliers, you'll have to make them. See, what you do is you don't sacrifice. What you do is you take one of those little cardboard inserts, carefully disassemble it, okay, where it's at the glue spots, disassemble it. Some of them are stapled, actually. So you just undo it and turn it into a pattern.
Make a metal pattern or another heavy cardboard stock, cardstock pattern, and use that to cut other cardstock to make inserts. Now you want to give me an idea how cheap Mark is?
How many of you guys eat cereal? How many of you guys have cracker boxes? Oh yeah, Don knows what I'm talking about. Years ago when we needed ammunition boxes for a research animal that we were building, I would save every cardboard box, card stock box that was laying out there. And then I'd even go down to those, you could have a pharmacy, there's stuff they're showing out all the time, that are card stock inserts.
and I would turn them inside out. Now the cool thing is, what's really nice Don, is that those colored pieces of cardboard on the inside that say Life, OK, that were checks or say Captain Crunch, actually offered some water repellents, OK, some protection, and it allows the brass to slide in and out easier. Now on the outside, they're earth brown. These go inside the bandoliers in each one of the pockets. Now see, for a few pennies, we've just put bandoliers together from off the shelf.
So if you need bandoliers, you can make them. Also, mark the bandoliers. Make a stencil with the information, the nomenclature, like 762 by 51 mm, and then the next line says NATO cartridge, and then put ball in big letters, B-A-L-L, or A-P, or A-P-I, armor piercing incendiary. Whatever you've loaded up, that's what it should say on the bandolier, and each bandolier should be consistently stamped. This way you can identify the ammunition.
When it's pulled out of the ammo can, you'll know what it is. You don't have to go, oh, I got to check inside and look and see what it is. You have to do that. But here again, write this number down, 360-906-8369. That's for the Gun Parts Guide, and it's gunpartsguy.com if you need to get ahold of them through the internet, gunpartsguy.com. They have the stripper clips, they have the stripper clip guides. If you have an FNFL, get them.
I'm not even saying kind of, sort of, get them. It's one of those things that is very useful. Now, if you have another rifle, and Don, like a .30-06 Springfield, they make stripper clips for those. So we're going to touch on that real quick when we come back, because there's another way to use those on the bolt rifles. This is the Intel Report. It is Weapons Wednesday. You've got Don and Mark. We'll be back in three minutes on We the People radio network.
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You guys, we're back. The intelligence report, 21st of November. I'm sorry to step down you mark. No problem, go ahead. You guys, you know, we can go in a number of directions. Reloading, boom, now mark. I want to talk about, you know, we've done this before. Now think about this, have a moment. You know, it's a good thing you touched on that because I want to address this because a shotgun is really critical. Most people don't think about this. But it's true with all weapons. And I'll bring this point forward. If you are in a situation
first thing that you do if you have made contact and fired is you top off all
magazines, you top off all shotguns, you top off, and they started to get into training back in the 70s and early 80s on this and drew away from it, starting to teach troopers even to, when they were carrying revolvers, to top off their cylinders. In other words, rather than, you know, you fire three rounds in a contact, pop, pop, pop. Well, what they were teaching, they started to teach, is popping the cylinder,
covering the loaded rounds, dumping the three that were shot, and then topping off loose ammunition or off a, like say, a little bandolier you might have on a separate belt, or might have on your rig somewhere, or ammunition you're carrying in your pocket just for this reason, as a second thought. With a shotgun, it's especially important because when a target pops up, or a series of targets pop up, if you've engaged, boom, and put one down, now you have space to put another round in. It should be automatic.
there's any wall in contact. Now another thing, if you stop, if you have had a firefight and it's been a point of contact where it's like everybody fired a few rounds, I don't want to ever hear about this, well I dumped a whole magazine into him wide, did you kill him? Three rounds killed him. I think so. 20 rounds basically wasted a lot of ammunition that is probably going to be needed for whoever it was with, whatever it is that just attacked you. Yep. Okay. So again, you know,
discipline in fire demonstrate everybody wants to talk about professionalism professionalism in this hollywood craft you see where you see twenty rounds don't downrange as quick as you can blow you know it's critical trigger as quickly as a couple photo that is not professional professionalism rational true just being able to understand that you only put so many rounds into a target and it's down okay
uh... the aliens syndrome okay yeah i might want to watch that movie it's cool everybody loves it is still the some of the most dynamic action movie you know of all action movies that you're killing a little school but it's the idea that you're going for a lot of just pump around in which are you that's already down
Now you know your short ammunition, just the reverse has to take place. You have to start thinking vital points, hit them hard, and pop up, or pop up, pop, in other words, three or four rounds, not 25 rounds into a target and they're still flailing around. It's already dead, you just have been wasting ammunition because it makes you feel good, okay? And I understand the adrenaline pump and all that, but you have to make it discipline. It becomes training so that you don't, when the time comes, deviate. Train as you will fight so that you fight as you have trained.
The basic rule, the first rule when you're dealing with a weapon system is reload as quickly as you can or top off any time that you can because you are going to make contact. If you engage a target, example, if you overran a position, let's say that you're in the offensive and you overrun an aggressor point, a checkpoint, a vertical control point, one of these FEMA slash New World Order detention camp temporary points.
As soon as you overrun it, as soon as you've destroyed all of the targets or run off some of them, the very first thing that you do is automatically reload and cap off your combat load right away. Why? Because a counterattack is going to come anywhere from 15 seconds to 15 minutes after you've overrun the target. The enemy that you've run off, if you haven't killed them all...
is going to evacuate, reorganize, and try to retake the site. Now, if it's a detention camp, they don't want anybody to know about their wicked deeds, so trust me, they're going to get motivated because they're going to try and hide their crimes. Okay?
If it's a vertical control point, they may not be as motivated. Most of those troops are like, man, I don't want to be here in the rain. I hate the snow. Oh, shoot, I'm not going to fight for this thing. I only got a patient coming. You too, Dad. You see, but still, depending on how motivated the force commander is or how it's integrated into a defense, what you're going to see is a counterattack with all actions, even if let's say, well, let's look at Waco, okay? You defeated or pushed back the first attack.
You all of a sudden, you've burned a lot of ammunition. Your first mission is recovery of supplies and rearming the troops that have already made contact. The women should have been reloading mags and they weren't. I know the story of this. They throw out all the BS with all the BS Hollywood movies that were done. It was absolute, you know, I could use a number of discs please. It was just, okay.
In reality, there are things that could have been thought through that weren't. There are things that should have been done that weren't. But again, they weren't planning on fighting. Now you know that WACOS can happen now. You've seen them. You know that FEMA is part of the betrayal mechanism that's bringing in foreign troops. We know that the traders in Washington plan on trying to kill you. That is the long and short term agenda.
With that being the case, you have to be ready to fight. If you are willing to and aren't ready to fight to defend your liberty, your life, your freedom, and if you don't show up in a concentration camp or detention facility, you gotta start thinking about winning. We're not just talking about, oh, well, I got this one. No, there's gonna be more. You gotta deal with them. The idea is to get through this to the end and you are on top. With that situation in mind, speed and reloading is critical, and down the shotgun is perfect because it's what 99% of you out there are gonna grab first.
Now I love Mr. Ithaca by the way, you brought that up. Ithaca Model 37s are the poor man's submachine gun. Most people don't understand, a lot of people, the Ithaca 37 is a slam fire shotgun. If you pull the trigger when you fire, okay, when you, we bring the weapon up, you fire, you've loaded it, you've topped it off, automatically I go to the farthest point behind me, not to the one in front, remember what I said, farthest point behind me, I pull out another shotgun shell, I stick it in the magazine, now I've topped off the mag.
Contact, something comes up. Boom! I fired my first round. Well guess what? If there's a whole bunch of them and I'm defending a hallway, let's say there's one after another, and let's say they're clustered. They're starting to bulk into the hallway or they're starting to come up the stairs. All Mark has to do is step up and just pull the trigger once and fan the gun. Like hold the gun. That's all I gotta do. Every time that you pull that slide back forward, it will slam fire the weapon and you can dump five rounds in three seconds. There is a caveat here because
30 there's a new yeah, there's a new Ithaca pump that basically is an extension of the 37 but now has a lock in. The older 37s most of them are police guns they can be extended tube they may be standard five-shot it doesn't make any difference the Ithaca is a beautiful weapon. Now a little subnote to this you might remember as we've talked about Miami Mice and all these other programs if you'll notice the common and I do not I do not want to hear anybody do not cut down a shotgun and do not shortens do not put a pistol grip on it.
If you're going to do anything, you can shorten, get a junk stock, shorten the stock to about, say, two inches less than what normally would be, and that'll give you enough ifs so that you can use it as a pistol gun. Now, if you've already got a pistol grip on it, that's fine, because there's a lot of defenders and stuff out there. But I'm talking about people, if you have a regular shotgun, that shotgun will serve you as is. Just know what it can do and know how to get it to bring it into service. Don't cut the barrel down. Don't bring it down below 18 inches. There's no reason for that.
But on Miami mice, remember all these chop shotguns they did down that were like almost pistols? They were pistols actually. Short shotguns. Look at what they've always converted. They always pick up Model 37. Why? Because of the features. Yeah, that's right. Because all of a sudden, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom
But if they if it was kept at standard length and they cut it down just beyond the edge of the magazine well Then you're looking at five rounds in as quick as it takes for you to work the action. Just fold the trigger back So the Ithaca is an excellent defense gun and I would put it as a priority feet gun to the front or as a priority defense or rear action gun to the rear Which is how it would work and again it serves its purpose. They're very reliable They're also M and extras use them left here ready. We'll be right back three minutes here and we the people radio network
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We're back and you know that's poker face calm if you want to get some of that music poker face calm Paul and the boys are there on a Mission and we need to support their firebase so to speak got a couple of callers We're gonna go into real quick why I mentioned bolt-action rifles public bolt-action rifles are slow I'll tell you what the old adrenaline rush goes up You can't stuff a needle needle up your hind end with a sledgehammer. Trust me the address You'll make a bolt-action work real fast. Okay, I've seen it
and have done it. Now, here's the thing. The bolt actions actually have special features of their own. All of them do. If they're a military bolt action rifle, the British Lee Enfield, the 1903 Springfield, the Moysen Naga, the K98 Mauser, all four of those rifles, which are the primary battle rifles of the situation that you see here right now, like for instance with surplus weapons in the field, one of the things that you have to remember
is that they're readily available with regard to all the support systems, all the pieces, all the trinkets. Well, what trinkets are out there? Now, shame on the guys that did this, Don. But a lot of the guys who sold ammunition, they turned around, and usually they pull the ammunition off of what? All the stripper clips. Yes, they did.
There are bins of stripper clips laying around if you look for them. The Moissan-Nagat ammunition, a lot of the 7.62x54 Russian rim came in in stripper clips. They are all sheet metal, typically chromed, although they can be brass and either one is good. You will find that they are, again, they are a little spring steel mechanism that holds five rounds.
Now, what this does is allows you to take one of these stripper clips for the nagod or one for the British Enfield. The British Enfield is very easy to spot. They have perforated light, what are called lightening holes. The idea was to take the metal, stamp out as many parts as you could and still get the spring steel to do its job. This lightened the combat load. It may not sound like much when you repeat this by hundreds of components or pieces. It makes a difference when you're carrying it. The US Springfield type, they're brass typically.
carry five rounds. They have little holder tabs on the end that are actually a lot of break off with multiple use. Designed as a throwaway item. You shouldn't be. Keep them whenever you can. But they are designed so that they just hold inside. They all of them typically hold using the extractor groove that's on all of these cartridges.
Now with the NAGOT, the beautiful part about this is you can take five rounds. You have a little stripper clip guide in the top of the rifle. Take a look, there's a couple of niches in each one of these weapons. The K98 Mauser has it to hold the K98 stripper clip. The Moise NAGOT for its stripper clip. The Springfield for its stripper clip. And the Enfield, well even though it's a 10 round droppable magazine, which is a great feature by the way,
uh... which gives you more magazine capacity there is a stripper guide in the top now it kind of overlaps of what we've been talking about let's say that i had to switch to my magazine because there are some some rifles have magazine well cut off uh... trench nineteen seventeenth do all rossie other with the ross straight pull rifles they do uh... any of these weapons that you have a magazine lock back what that means is i can fire single rounds when you're farther out and keep reloading one round of time to keep top it off
But if I had to use something real quick, all of a sudden I got a bunch of problems right in front of me, I dropped the magazine switch, and kaboom, kaboom, kaboom, kaboom, kaboom, kaboom, kaboom, kaboom. As quick as I can move the action and fire, I can put rounds down range.
Now people will say that may be wasting ammunition, but again, it depends as suppression fire, not dumping your whole magazine downrange. If the targets are close enough, well, as quickly as you can work the action, you may have another target at your disposal down a hallway, inside a building, up a stairwell, etc., etc. Also in the defense, the advantage is, again, with rapid fire and having a magazine weld, if you have a squad making a rush, you're able to recover, fire around,
recover and re-end and fire again. Say that you fired five rounds out of ten in that magazine on a British Enfield. You quick grab a stripper clip, put it in top of the weapon, put it in the guide, as quick as you can push your thumb down, pull the guide out, or I should say pull the stripper clip out, and work the action you're reloaded again and you have a full magazine at your disposal. The advantage, now with the Magot, as quickly as you dump five, you have the stripper clip, plug the stripper clip in,
push down on the rounds and pull that stripper clip out, work the action, she's loaded. That quick. Whatever we have, there are changes only in the moisten they got, obviously again, you may find ammunition in the stripper clips right now in the bandoliers, it's amazing it's actually out there, but if it isn't, again, you can fabricate bandoliers, mimic the standard stuff that's used for the 30-06, the 308 rounds,
but mark the bandolier. Now you can make the letters as big as you want. Don't in tactical colors. In other words, when you do it, ink it in black. You can even go so far as if it can be as crude as using a laundry marker, these permanent laundry markers that are out there. I would recommend making it as neat as possible so that it's more legible. It's clean and easy to read. It is very important that this be in place
because in battlefield situations you may be issuing different types of ammunition to different people and you may even have to have several different weapons in service a lot of people have model ninety one boys may dot they've got k ninety eight mousers in some cases mixed with those are you may also end up with a bunch of people showing up that are using different weapons and i would need hesitate to hand out a six point five car car if i had to add pump you're going to leak with it as soon as i show you how to use it
But just as easily with a 223 with a m14 or whatever you need to have these basic systems for the second tier in action First is I was conveniently able to use all my loaded magazines or with them with the bolt actions Obviously you might be carrying your ammunition in a cartridge belt standard ten pocket US cartridge belts are the best solution if you want to put a bandolier type device on the shelf
will allow you to support each of the rifles you're carrying that are like this. Example, if I had five negants in my 510 program, let's say I buy five boys and negants, you're going to want some basic web gear there. Well, as I've said many times, you want to make sure the web gear matches the rifle that you're going to be issuing out.
This means that again there are certain support systems in place. Now if you want to go with all the surplus Russian stuff that's out there, that's fine. That's your choice. Whatever's cheap, whatever's quick and allows you to, you know, again put that five man system together without, you know, taxing your wallet. But there's a lot of decent systems. U.S. cartridge belt will handle two per pocket, will carry two five round Springfield stripper clips or one M1 grand D clip with eight rounds in it.
Right off the bat it's well situated, well placed. Now there's some other tricks and that's where we're going to go to YouTube and show you some real cool tricks to increase the capacity, the amount of ammunition you can carry utilizing those types of systems. Again, it doesn't have to be brand new. You don't have to reinvent the wheel. You know, I heard this thing about old modern stuff. You'd be going all the modern stuff. Newer is not necessarily better. Newer is being made out of plastic and junk and made in China.
Guys okay, there's about it. Yeah, it's like there's a lot of good stuff. We have built it is not outdated It supports a weapon that it might even be 50 years old or 60 years old I wouldn't want to get shot with a grand would you? Okay, that's an obsolete rival. You know Okay, baby. I'm absolutely dead. Yeah, wait, but can you stop the leaking? Can you help me now? It is hurt use an obsolete bandage. Yeah, right Yeah, use an obsolete bandage. Yeah, I feel you know and again if that's my problem with this the mindset that some of these people have
Guys, we actually outgun most armies on the planet as militia in the United States because we're committed to heavier and bigger calibers.
Okay, the troops you have that are Vietnam vets can attest to some of the problems we had with the versus the AK and our M16 works fine, but think about this. Now we're hearing from the vets in Desert Dust Part 2 and they've been underloading the cartridges. They went to a car type rifle for all the troops. The AK is now able to engage 100 yards farther out than the standard M16 M4 type rifles that they're carrying. Wouldn't push in like that.
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Okay, now the better you are at understanding where your weapon will put a bullet is also going to determine how much more successful you are, which is why the other issue that has always come forward, and I have stated this for years, the theory of the weapon is gained through range fire. That doesn't mean just blasting rounds down range. It means actually paying attention to what that weapon will do and then teaching others to do the same. If you have ammunition that's affordable to train with, then you are going to increase your proficiency. It gets into why
We are the one hand I've said don't waste your 223 ammunition it's become you know like chickens teeth and don't waste your 308 but with this 5.45 on an upper receiver as an option down the road here you'll be able to get back out on the range and continue to familiarize which is where we're headed we need ammunitions that are cheap they are out there we're gonna have to take advantage of them. This is the Intel report we still got callers we'll be back in three minutes with the people radio network.
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Wednesday I figured it would be a good time to call. No, excellent. But anyway, the problem I'm having is the ejection action on it is very, I keep getting these near the neck of the... Always happens. It is one of the natures of the HK. It will happen on the MP5. It happens on the 93, the 91. It is just, it's the nature of the way the HKs work. Now, they can still be, the brass can still be reloaded, but typically what you want... It's not what it couldn't be.
all it can be but you gotta be careful only what you're gonna have to do is a full case resize uh... it'll blow it back out trust me it won't fail but what you've got to do instead of a lot of people here, I won't say lazy but to save time people do like a half case resize typically remember that your dyes are designed to do a full case resize so take advantage of that and do it it's just that it's the other issue is remember your HKs all of their barrels
uh... unless and i haven't looked at this you know that's a good question you just brought up there away other there are some new manufactured h k barrels inside the u.s. because the kids have been caught and i'm wondering if they did the waffle uh... the waffle recess in the chamber have you noticed
uh... no i haven't now if you'll notice on your receiver of yours is a standard standard using a standard kit so the barrel should be a standard h k you'll notice also that there's a fine waffle print especially if you get some carbon buildup and it blows through the the gas system it becomes very obvious on the brass yes i have that none that was a feature that was designed this is the good thing about the h k's which people don't realize h k new because they're german military contractor the germany automatically goes to steal case when they go to wartime production
So unlike all the other rifles out there that are worried about steel case ammunition, your rifle and all of the HKs are designed for steel case ammo. So you can comfortably use a steel case, for instance, 308, the Russian ammunition coming in right now, the Wolf, your rifle is designed for it. The Germans knew that every war they've been in, in fact, World War I,
and World War II, if you people are collecting cartridges, and I've been a cartridge collector for decades, the Germans, halfway through World War I, started to go to steel case, and by the end of the war, they were almost 100% steel case production for all their small arms ammunition. 9mm, 8mm, and what 7mm they had in service, or 765 that they captured.
In World War II, the situation was the same. Their cases went very quickly from brass cartridges for pre-war production into steel production almost immediately. Because of this, standard Bundeswehr policy and standard industrial complex policy for Germany was that they must engineer all of their firearms so that they could use the standard steel case ammunition as a service cartridge, you know, in their service cartridge form.
So your rifle is ideally suited for that. Now that little dink in the case, it's the only thing you can do is to dial down your gas system. You might want to experiment. Most people are using it to pull open. You can dial it down to reduce your gas flow or actually open up to, well, it might be open all the way right now. I don't want to tighten it up. And what it'll do is it'll short stroke your extraction. In other words, you're going to be using less energy to work the action.
What will happen is you may not get a perfect extraction every time, but it would reduce wear and tear on the brass. Personally, we have seen this with all HKs for 30 years. HK started coming in in the 60s. Every HK that I've ever seen used, and at first they were unique obviously because there weren't that many around, was the same problem. Now, as the gas system gets tighter or as it's used with a sharper stroke,
You'll see the waffle patterns start to become more prominent, especially if the weapon's dirty. You'll be able to see that actual chamber waffle. Okay, in both cases that can be reloaded, but you just have to, again, you have to do a little more work. I would also inspect, if you're going to use the cases in more than one reload, you again, as I've said many times, you have to maintain quality control, do an inspection at the base of the case, and watch for blowout, because what happens is the brass may weaken during its expansion because it's going to expand first.
and then when it is extracted and it strikes that look of the extraction of the the extractor well uh... the ejection well what's going to happen is you're going to have a of dimpling again now when you know that more than once would the the place where it was extracted the first time isn't going to be the place that it gets probably the second time what's your what the act really so what's going to happen is you're going to have that brass push back out and reform what will happen because it passes again crystal tall metal crystal structure
you may get a, what is like a fingernail blowout. It will about the size of literally the width of your fingernail, the thickness of your fingernail, and it may be in a hemispherical arch around the body of the brass, maybe say an eighth of an inch to a quarter of an inch. Obviously that's junk. When it blows out, and I don't care what brass is for our listeners, any brass that you see that does that will do that either. It's called a, it usually happens at the base of the case because of overpressure, right back where the extractor is.
to the shoulder and it'll be up around literally the shoulder of the case where the first bend is where it makes that lift to go up to meet the, if it's at the upper end, don't throw the brass out. You can switch that brass over and cut it down to either another cartridge length, for instance, if it's 30 out of six, I can resize it down to 308 and make 308 cases all day out of 30 out of six blobs at the top. I can also turn it into then 44 auto mag if it's blown out up from 308.
I can then, if need be, cut that down to 44, 45 ACP. Oh, okay. So like you were explaining in your equipping deal when you were showing sizes and you took the training ammunition and whatnot? We can recycle. What I've said many times is we are the ultimate recyclers. Again, with rifle cases, the millet, once that thing is bored, if you were to take, and somebody, everybody can have fun with this, even if you have a little machine shop or a little shop, take a saw,
Take one of your 30-06 like you're blown out, a damaged case, don't do this with a good case. Take a piece of junk and use it for a training case. Cut it straight down the length, now in half, the length of the case itself and look at the variance in the thickness of the wall from the top of the case to the base of the case. You'll notice that there's a taper and there's actually a thickening at the base of the case that's quite extensive on a rifle cartridge.
On a pistol cartridge, it's less extreme, in other words a thinner wall, because they're able to do a shorter stroke with a, in a smaller millet, less brass is used, to actually make the 45 ACP case. Now the cool thing is this, if you cut down a 30-06 or a 308 to 45 ACP, look at how much thicker the wall is.
Okay, now you've got a lot more meat a lot more material to strengthen the chamber if you read that out and reload that to 45 ACP a lot of guys use those for their submachine that are car or carbine rounds Because they can take greater pressure so they can load them hotter. Oh, okay a little trick there I wasn't sure because mine is a it's basically an HK 91 but your designation is PTR 91 it's JLD Enterprises, but it's basically a 91
Yeah, it's they're an excellent rifle. I've never seen any problems with those the only issue again is spare parts HKs have a notorious long-term problem because of the nature and they knew this the steel case issue again Is is the extractor by extra extractors? Because that it might add with it was the reassembling it with the rollers. I'm still getting used to that Well, you know and that was a that's again. There's now there's a there was a
an excellent video out there and I think I have two copies of it on assembly and disassembly, some of the armorers tricks for basically just for speed and little things that they've done and I think I'll pull that out and we'll bring that up maybe a little blurb off YouTube on that because every rifle has its little glitch or its little uniqueness that if you were, if you handled it enough the troops in the field came up with solutions. It's kind of like the old PM magazine done by Quartermaster for the Army.
what they would do marketing yeah remember they would post all the the the tricks that the troops figured out a way that this works better than the manual do it this way yeah exactly okay what i've had good luck with my uh... ppr ninety one so far i mean it's very accurate there's no the the other thing uh... pick up a bandit for because remember they really didn't cut off the bandit log there was no such thing and the pakistan eat the pakistani bandit for the cheapest on the market they work just fine
The HK91 Packy Bandettes are running as little as $10 a piece for the HK91. One of the reasons they're so cheap is because there aren't that many HKs out there. How many Bandettes do you need for how many rifles? So you can buy them cheap, they're well made, and they'll stick somebody just fine when you got to use them on the end of the rifle. Well, thank you very much, Mark. I'll let you go so another caller can come on, but I really appreciate it. Well, thank you, John. Give Don a call when you get a chance. I sure will. God bless you and have a good Thanksgiving.
And we have George from Florida, thanks real quick Tom. Do you think we can get him up there? George, jump in there. Yes, Mark, I just found out in Florida that you can't buy a hollow point round. How can you convert your regular 38 rounds to a hollow point? Oh, I'll tell you what, hold here, that's interesting. You can't get hollow point rounds in Florida?
Well, we're going to go to, we're going to, George, you stay right there, that's interesting. We're going to top off this hour. Don has always got blessed the Republic. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We are on the march both day and night. And if we can't use all the points in Florida, well, some point will work just fine, but I prefer a ball round to hit them farther out. Drive them up to Georgia.
for the can use all the whole point they want in georgia on the u.n. troops in the time comes up well thank you don't thank you for god bless god bless you
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