November 16, 2007
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Mark Koernke discussed the federal raid on the Sunshine Mint and seizure of Ron Paul commemorative coins, framing it as a politically motivated attack on Ron Paul's presidential campaign. He emphasized the importance of alternative currency systems, including local currencies and precious metal-backed coinage, as protection against federal monetary control and the coming collapse of the Federal Reserve Note. Callers Rob from Texas and George contributed ideas about Tyvek-based local currency production and living trusts as estate planning tools to protect family assets from taxation and legal predation.
- ron paul coins
- liberty dollar
- sunshine mint
- federal raid
- alternative currency
- local currency
- precious metals
- federal reserve note
- living trust
- estate tax
- preparedness
- numismatism
- tyvek currency
- sound money
- fort knox gold
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free.
and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent.
Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught, according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled.
You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn.
and your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave?
O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic in each God-given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom bright. As Iowoki vanished in the midst for whence he came, his words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame.
For even now his parents trampled each God-given right. We only watched him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, dill the land of the free?
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Now the first hour we talked about the whole idea of trying to deal with the coins that have been stolen by thieves by politically motivated scallywags yesterday. We have more particulars on it and you can all go to different searches. We the People Radio Network. There have been a number of faxes running around as this different emails as this developed and has developed. Now again, I would like to see more of the paperwork but the bottom line is
that they're after the ron paul the liberty currency is a side note it doesn't mean that it isn't critical for them to steal all that they can that's part of the the profit motive issue but you gotta remember that the ron paul coins are something that nobody else has nobody elk is doing mark the wood said here of course we got some major actions coming up in january we've got some major primaries that are going to be taking place people
What we need to do, let's tweak this a little more. First of all, the coins can be struck off of the dies in pot metal, copper, or in silver, quickly. Now gold, hey guys, price is going up and it's going to be harder and harder to get hold of what you need there. So we need to come up with a quick solution. The people who put the Ron Paul dollars out, the Ron Paul coins out, hopefully I want you to talk to them right away. I want all of you who have been in contact with them, get hold of them.
Talk about this immediately. Even if all it is is a... And let's do this in tears. Let's do this in waves. Let's do this with what you can. This is like fighting a war. You are in a war. You're trying to mobilize forces, forces, and steel, strength. You're trying to conserve strength wherever possible. Okay, the thieves, they've stolen this stuff. They sent a privateer slash pirates.
into the facility to steal because it was centralized. Well, first of all, we can't have that anymore. I hope everybody learned from this what I've said. Remember what I said about the ammunition across the country. If it's sitting in the gun shops, if it's sitting in the warehouses, when they try to pull this BS, what do they do? They just roll the door shut and they only have to control a few points.
Well, let's press the issue. The ammunition needs to be spread out tactically. You need thousands of rounds per weapon. Each of you needs to make sure you have as many weapons as you can possess. The ammunition, the support system is there. We also need good economics to do that. We need to have a money system in place. Now, the Liberty Dollar isn't the only one. And I think their assumption was that somehow that this is going to do damage to the mechanism. Well, it didn't help. It hurt the people, obviously. They're running the operation.
the majority of the Liberty dollars are out in everybody's hands. Not only that, but they could be shifted. Now here's the thing, we don't want the enemy to get any of it. So you need to make sure that your wealth is secure somewhere else. I want to make you understand this right now. Not only would the Liberty dollars and Liberty coins and even if you got any of the Ron Paul coins, if any of them did get into circulation and pre-strike or whatever, if you have anything at all in a safety deposit box,
Let me give you the, you remember search for Spock? Remember when he sent his crew over to the Enterprise, the Klingon commander, and they're running through the Enterprise and they jump into the bridge and they're looking around and there's nobody there. And you know, the second the command goes, the captain goes, well, he goes, well, there's something over here in the corner. Well, what is it? There's a computer, it's speaking. And he goes, she puts the communicator up to the microphone. Five, three, he said to his crew, tell you what you
need to do with the banks right now. You see what I mean? Okay, get out of the banks now. Get your property out of the safety deposit boxes with your wallet against an enemy who will steal everything that you have. The key indicator here, and there are two of them, one, this is a political raid, a political theft, a political staking, a political taking.
that just took place with the Ron Paul coins. The other element demonstrates thievery and of course a cursor to other actions or takings. Now where can they do this? Well in the banks for years, everybody learned this back in 29 and back in 33 when the banksters helped the corporate agents from the Caribbean red tape every safety deposit box in the United States.
Notice I have it one year I used to post them and I do I'm gonna do it again here pretty soon I'll post the original notices down here in the banks or everybody can read them and we'd make big super copies So they're just like the ones that were put on the windows when they lock the banks down so they could steal from the safety deposit boxes Hollyweird after 33 had to do television and movie propaganda to try and lure people or stupefied people into forgetting how the banks had betrayed America
because the banks cooperated and it was the responsibility the banks to protect from private corporate chills or other thieves who were not supposed to get into those safety deposit boxes the private corporate these from the alphabet soup agencies unregistered agents of foreign powers such as the bar association but also the british crown mile operating as privateers inside the u.s. went into the banks and peoples property never to be recovered if they were the these galley wags
before that happens to you unlike back then were like one of our friends uh... his uh... father of the bay his bank of the his banker of the my friend's father's uh... banker came right to miss a get your money out of my bank it yourself on my safety box he didn't listen he got half of the bill ha ha he's laughing to the manual the bank so you can't say all the bankers don't know what's going on and someone tried to do something for many of them get they knew what the pressure was being put pressure was being done
Today we don't have to wait for them to do that. We have a communication system. Tell your friends. At least do it this way. This will be another one of those big smack in the heads. Boop to the head, as they say. Tell your friends to get their money out of the deposit boxes, get their bonds, get their notes, get their deeds to their houses, the titles to their property. None of that. Not your family treasures. Nothing. Get them out of the safety deposit boxes immediately. As soon as you can.
If there is anything of value, if there is anything that you treasure that is in the banks, you will lose the other element of this as a precursor to other thievery that the swine will attempt. Now, cover that enough. We emphasize that, but you'll notice I spent a lot of time on this, and I don't do, if I do this, it is for a reason. Do not tell me later, I don't know. Yes, you did.
seriously you take this war will determine how comfortable you are when it's over and it still doesn't mean you can be very comfortable we ain't gonna be living in plush plush silk but at least you'll have a roof over your head at least you'll have food to eat your family you're not gonna turn and find your family looking like some somebody in Bangladesh with a little bloated belly hopefully waiting for the next bowl of rice and fish heads to show up okay it's that simple you can at least be
comfortable or a minimally comfortable is better than the other people out there bemoaning while they're trying to figure out why their lease cars were confiscated while their property has been stolen off or underneath them with three mortgages etc etc etc and that's already happening. Instead you're ahead of the edge. Now Ron Paul coins again re-emphasizing this for this hour because there are a lot of people. Ron Paul coins were grabbed they were the pin that was the pivot of this whole action yesterday.
to steal the Ron Paul coins. We've got these primaries coming up. Think about this, people. Now let's read. Let's tweak this a little more. We know what states those primaries are going to be in. We now need to look, and I'm planning a general seat at your job. People get motivated, get fire under your butt, get this thing rolling, and we'll do it on our own. We don't need anybody big to do it. We just need everybody to work together at doing it. Now.
First, we generate round-pole coins in base metal, in copper, in whatever we can. The nicer the metal, obviously, the more collectible it will be. However, and that is a key, by the way. Remember, election memorabilia is always collectible. How collectible is it? Guys, they collect five cent or nickel or 20 cent or 50 cent buttons, however they were described, depending on what year it is, and they're worth dollars.
What do you think a Ron Paul commemorative coin, a Ron Paul coin would be worth, pneumatically down the road? Don't you think they will increase in value? There is a two-fold way to get these circulated and moving where people are going to show interest and it puts Ron Paul's name on people's lips. It serves to create a more tangible demonstration of where our currency should be, which is what you can bring up as a subject. This is what Ron Paul supports, real currency.
coinage. Either numbers that, you know, they can steal at a whim, they can devalue at a whim, they can destroy or lose at a whim and then tell you don't exist so they can starve your family while you're grasping at a plastic card in thin air where you do not control your life, where you do not control your wealth, or somebody else is going to tell you that they own you as a slave, plastic credits or debits, when in reality they don't even exist.
You hold your wealth in your hand in your lifetime when you hold the coinage when the American people hold the coinage were free When you get this plastic BS plugged in people the chains will have been forged around your throat And they're not going to be at the next size you like We're gonna be back in about three minutes. We the people radio network. This is the Intel report. We have callers. Thank you
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I'd rather die than be your slave, people. I don't plan on being anybody's slave, and I won't let anybody else stand in that situation either, but you all have to stand together to make sure it doesn't happen. We don't have big walls, big houses. We don't have a whole vast, you know, pile of things that have been, you know, we've stolen from somebody else like these federal agents and these other gutter trash. Actually, I meant all of the other gutter trash. Why? I can't exclude them. They're gutter trash. Anyway, eBay type auction, uh...
$349.44 for a $20 silver piece Ron Paul coin today the code with the closing bid and of course were sold now this is something I was just going to so it's perfect because how many of you remember the Waco commemorative coins that are out there a limited run using a silver round independently struck they went for oh anywhere from
$20 to $29 to $30, depending on when they were initially sold. Does everybody remember what they were selling for within six months in auction? About $350 apiece. Some of them have gone up higher. There are fewer and fewer in circulation. They are very specifically or a very specific limited run. That's where you get into the issue of what's called numismatism, the collection of coinage, the collection of currency.
uh... you being an emissimatist isn't something obscene all the party that the military has quite a bit children almost too late they saw the coins instead of uh... a cool currency this is the history of currency of coinage of how people come up with peaceable solutions to become involved in commerce the community communism but communism the kind of communist total differently or yellow they could get involved but that the
of a gun, a peaceful way whereby I can transfer my time or translate it into something that everybody can understand and is expressed in specific values that everybody will accept through public contract. Okay? Under a sound system, you don't have to put a gun, anybody said, to accept it. But when you've got an unsound or unjust system, well, then they have other agendas. And in this case,
uh... they're trying to push us towards the the slave chain the plastic slave chain the plastic slave card the drone card the situation where it and and at the whim of anybody else they could cut be the worst alone and i can't bear none of and there's not enough we did that could be used to properly express how despicable these creatures are and those that have bought people who again they're not a grand thing exactly what they're doing there's a quick
yesterday with Liberty Dollar. They're the ones that attack. They attack, they're chosen, they of course, they're doggy treats, they get a cut of the pie, then they proceed from there. Now, we need to get these Ron Paul coins out to the states where the primaries are specifically. So we also have to allocate what we have from our fire control system. In other words, the mint is the battery. The race is to see if they don't try to now do damage to the dyes if they haven't stolen them.
Even if, let's put it this way, we're now going to have what are basically a second, or what we might call the freedom strike. We now have Ron Paul in prison. We now have Ron Paul. He's been stolen. We have Ron Paul, who has been thieved. A direct attack, a politicized action has taken place by agencies as toadies of whoever it is that told them behind closed doors and smoke-filled rooms to attack Ron Paul's candidacy.
And that is why they attacked the Liberty Dollar facility, the Sunshine Mint, and banked because, well, guys, the Ron Paul coins were there, period. Everything else is important, but it's like side to this. We need to get Ron Paul's image off the shelf, out of the prison, out of the lockup, off the pirate ship, and we need to get him out there in the people's hands so that they can be excited. And, as is pointed out,
The numismatic value of the silver coins is obviously going to go up quick. I think this is an exciting situation because people perceive the value of the person, not his dollar value, but they perceive the value of the person. They know that this is going to be an important period of time. This is an important event. And the coins will be part of the emphasis that's tangible that you'll be able to remember. It's like what we used to call in the military a pass coin. I know you guys are familiar with this.
Units and many armies have produced coinage either in a pot metal or bronze, even brass, but are typically in the silver or in gold that are issued out and made specifically for the men of the unit. Only the members carry the coin. Those who's in the zoo, where you're from and associated with. This is going to be working as kind of like our past coin, but our passing out of tyranny and stepping forward into the light. I've got collars, we've got Rob from Texas, and I know he's been so patient and so the rest.
Rob from Texas, jump in there please. Okay Mark, I've got a solution. I worked on this back in 1997. I told you I was a biochemist. I had a friend who was a chemist who went into printing, worked on prototypes for local currencies. Now it's based on a book, or the idea is based on a book called, Rethinking Our Centralized Monetary System.
for a system of local currencies, USD Solomon, the 164 page book, $35. A quarter of it, a biography with all the titles and codes and the galates and everything, Ithaca Dollar, the hour of the leaps and all the other local currencies that are being used is based on this book. What we did, Tyvic is the substrate, the regular process,
anything you want on it, then we use something that seals, you know what I'm talking about? Yes, yes. Okay, it's a cross between that and a reloading prep and it basically impregnates into Tyvek and it can't be separated. Well, you could separate it if you went through a lot of machinations, but it would give it a notional value and you could put Ron Paul's picture on there.
Yes, it would be a lot cheaper than trying to do coin bitch now. We need okay. This is a good pull This would be a lot of fun This is something that we need to look at right away and hopefully you're playing again for plenty seeds That's I'm telling that's what this program spores to give everybody ideas Rob we need to be able to pull you well It is can you give me your number? Yeah Let's do this. Well, I'm gonna we're gonna have our engineer pull you down. I want to make sure I got I have your phone number handy
uh... there's other people who were talking to you right now there are that are listening to your own the lights are coming on the bells or the bells are ringing in the whistles are screaming this is these are ideas we can come up with real quick i really do believe that the coin issue the fact that you have a in an image of ron paul that was tangible uh... basically the symbol of what he's talking about sound currency everything there in place and the fact that it was being done by just us people
it was it's something that that's why they struck that's why they attack and that means we need to redo this immediately in whatever forms we can and go beyond it because that's what really bothers them you know they they figured that off we do this will central will hit some central point we're going to get stop everything else no they're not all there is a is not even a speed bump their piece of gravel in in the pavement we're just going we're going over them around them through them and on down the road
So I was going to wait to do this till after the crash, but now is a good time is ending. Yes, in fact the idea, the concept need to be a place for everybody. We're going to break, Rob you stay right there, we've got other callers, we'll be back in about three minutes and we the people radio network. Fabrique Nacional makes a rifle known as the Fusil Automatic Leger or Light Automatic Rifle considered to be the right arm of what's left of the free world.
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Ladies and gentlemen, if you have to leave the building right now because you think that's what's happening in your area, don't even hesitate. But hopefully everything's secure. You're at home or you're at work. You know what's going on around you. You've got friends and allies for also being your eyes and ears. You've got to work together. We have a project ahead of us. It's a mission, but it's also part of an ongoing war for liberty, and that's what we're fighting. Rob, you're still there? Yeah, I'm still here. Very good, sir.
Now this is something, this branches off into something that I have talked about many times and I think you've probably heard it too, but for years I've had many private conversations with many good patriots who are of course looking at, we work as think tanks, but we work together. We don't just have little groups off the side. We have everybody always mulling over and turning the ball this way and turning the object that way and looking at it from different sides and angles.
we have to not just talk about it we have to have the mental processes in place and then to be ready to implement physically all the things that make for peaceful good effort you know governments and part of that is a sound currency or currency is viable but it you know again is is it is useful by we the people uh... we need everything uh... from franking in other words stamp capability to currency capability
I've said this many times about the whole idea behind investing in the silver and the gold, more of the silver than the gold, but even copper. All you can do is collect copper. We're going to need that currency, we're going to need that specie to invest in our own nation, to invest in our country, in our people. Everybody out there can participate in this. And at the lowest level and the smallest denomination, everything counts.
We're going to have to have this currency issue dealt with now in preparation for the future. The FRN is dead. The Federal Reserve noted, oh, it'll be resuscitated in the emerald. But all that is is a retread of the same crisis.
And if we truly, truly understand that we have to have insurance policies in place, we must be prepared and ready with the solution. So that's what you're demonstrating here. And I want to thank you for that because, guys, it can be hard currency. I have a little collection of stuff. I paid for part of my college. I always talk about how I did school. When I was very, very small, I went through and I would collect weedy pennies. I went through the penny rolls.
Two dollars at a time, I'd save up pop bottles, I'd save up whatever, I'd walk all the way down to the branch bank that was brand new back in the early 60s. And I would sit in the lobby and I would find all the weedy pennies and the silver dimes I could afford until I ran out of change that I could trade. And I took them back and put them in yogurt cups. I would say the yogurt was new then. Very new. Yogurt cups and I would layer the coins and put tissue paper between the coins at each layer until I filled the cup up and I put it on the shelf.
And I paid for part of my school that way. You know, 20 years later, I actually sat there and wanted one coin at a time or a few coins at a time. And none of it was, I never been paying any money for it. I just went out and I collected it. Little bits at a time added up to big bits down the road. Coinage has two different values. It has its face value and currency of all types do. Even the bills we're talking about producing, the phase one value or the face value,
is obvious. But there is a numismatic value because there's always a limited production in currency, be it paper or be it coin. So I want to stress here again that just like what just happened with the Ron Paul coins, and again they went from 20, $30 a piece on eBay two days ago. The end of yesterday was by what the guys are telling me, $150 is what they went for. But today, the two latest bids that were sales
and $349 a piece each. I can expect that to continue and there's a lot of other people are going there scrambling wondering if they had or if they kept the round ball coin that they had no matter what it was because there's some people that are coin collectors who know exactly what's happening. Go ahead Rob, go ahead. Yeah, Mark, the idea behind this now is that basically this can be done on the local level. I mean if you're near a print shop or possibly I have tried it but
I was thinking maybe it could even be done on a laser printer. I mean, the main issue with this is just having that silver foil giving it some hard money value. You know, it's only 30 grains of 40% than an FRN, right? And having the Tyvek, that makes it almost indestructible.
which allows it to circulate longer because one of the other things with currency is, and it's automatically assumed with paper currency, they know what the timetable is for depletion because of handling, they know how many folds the paper can handle, how much stress it'll take, the fact it can be washed, or will be washed probably, people leave them in their pockets. So that's all taken into the formula for circulation time with a certain bill, let's say in the lower denominations. We're gonna be looking at this as what's called a working currency. Does he need to be,
be able to handle it, we need to be able to transfer it, it needs to be able to handle mixed environmental conditions, and this would be an excellent solution to that problem. And again, it has a tangible physical value. The important thing is that you're actually handling your wealth. You are controlling the wealth, the translation of your life's time. And this way, it's not something that's backed by something someplace else. The value is actually in the currency. It's got
got the best of both worlds is currency but also has the value of coin in that the metal is actually impregnated into the substrate. Exactly. Now we're looking at one of the things we discussed before and again there are
America is the only country, by the way, that if you think about it, most every other country, a lot of Americans, it varies in where you are, if you're in a city or where you are across the nation. Most of the world knows that the translation slash exchange rates are for every currency on a moment's notice today. Americans are very currency ignorant. I hate to say it, but that's, and that's intentional because they're trying to dumb us down into the next, you know, again, the plastic chain, get us into the credit card.
The idea behind this is that we have a viable currency that can be used locally, but we will know we would be able to work the actual translation rates or the exchange rates out.
between that and any other currency most people have a hard time understanding that. Well how would I deal with somebody across on the other side of the world or on the other side? Well first of all most of your actual commerce should be within your community anyway. So local currency like this would be the solution wouldn't it Rob? Exactly and that's what I was talking about. This book goes into the Ithaca
I don't know if you've heard of these local currencies. Oh yeah, there's a Sun bill, the Sun, yeah, there's many different ones. This ties in with what terrified the bankers in 1932 into 1933 is that Americans were doing this. Americans have always done this. You know, I've got Ann Arbor bank dollars, and they were generated as currency against deposits that were made with the banks.
uh... detroit bank at the the city of detroit had them this is before this is before the depression this is going back and i've got no eighteen ninety six eighteen ninety eight dollars and they're not united states notes their bank notes or their their bank dollars their city dollars from places that made their own currency everybody know anybody knew this in america before nineteen thirty three but dumbing down of the population was part of this hideous agenda to destroy our world
But any person can make money. We say make money and that they could, the money can be made, but it has to be, there has to be confidence in it and that it has to be backed with something. Which was part of the whole process of the issue of the integrity of a real banker, not the shills we have now. The integrity of the banker, his life was laid on the line. His wealth, his savings, everything was bonded to his business.
Unlike all of this second and third party shill work that's done now, which has helped to debase and deface the whole system where the pirates have come in, the scallywags have come in from outside and perverted the original process. Each aspect of good money is based upon the honor of individuals. When it is undermined, it is not only, it's not a minor action. It's why counterfeiting was a death penalty issue.
because it was a debasement of the basic foundations and principles and the sovereignty of the individual, of the nation. That's why it was considered a high crime because it would destroy the nation's system, the infrastructure. We ain't talking the shills and the Federal Reserve note types and the outside external bankers. We're talking about local community.
So people knew who the scallywags were. People knew the people in their community and paid attention to who was doing what. People knew who the questionable people were or who it is that might be involved in something strange and exotic.
So here we actually are going to be building up a sound and viable currency. Like you said, it's based upon the species that we are supposed to be operating with. Silver and gold leaf could be used the same way, couldn't it? Exactly. Exactly. Gold foil. Excellent. And then copper for our third metal. We'll be back in a minute. Intel report. We the People Radio Network.
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And ladies and gentlemen we are back. Last 15 minutes here. Rob, anything more please? Yeah Mark, I just want to mention one other thing. I think one other thing that people don't quite understand is that the reason for hard currency is limiting. In other words, if you want to print more money then you have to go out and dig out of the ground which requires energy. And so, but the way we have it now is that's when we have taxes. That's how they
the money supply with a fiat currency as they go in and tax, to understand is actually the funding of the government is done with excise taxes, am I not correct? Well, yes, in that respect, one of the other problems I have with it is that in the one process there is an honest effort that is involved, that is involving labor.
The other is involving a police state mindset and the process of the gun to someone's head. In other words, they're not producing. This is where you get into, this is where I believe the whole of the system is spiraling into a collapse for that reason because one of the reasons that a system like this can only go so far and always collapses is because it's non-productive. It does not produce. It is based upon the idea of a taking, which of course is, you know, again, you take a little, eventually the,
at least the somewhat honorable or thinking criminals to a degree have gravitated to the position when they initiate this, but they're replaced by criminals who have less and less common sense or intelligence. And that's where we're at the other extreme now with the Ponzi scam where, you know, just like people say, well, we need royalty because you can have a just king. Yeah, but what happens if you get a third rate in who barely count his toes, let alone understand what time of day it is?
and he gets the idea that he wants to go up into some cyclophant rant. Guess what? Royalty is a real bugger then when you find people stacked like cordwood and dead by the millions. And that royalty can be socialism just as easily, and it is socialism, and they just want to give it another name. These royalists will incorporate the fiat money system or try to figure out how to destroy or undermine the currency. Even in Rome, in the time of Rome, there's a whole history of this. That's why I always was fascinated with currency, and this is how I learned and it was taught.
and educated to the process that everything is integrated. It's not one isolated action. The currency affects the whole of the society because it determines both the honor or the lack of honor of a people. And I think that's one of the things that this is sadly representing in the later stages of the demise of the Federal Reserve Note is it's showing the very nature of the creatures that hijacked, occupied, stole, and pirated our nation.
are today and we need to come up with intelligent solutions and this is this is one of them you come up with a an idea whose time has come that needs to be ready to be implemented needs to be in place. Do you want to get my number? Yes if you would not you don't have to give it out there what we'll do is I'm gonna have our engineer pull you down he's going I want you to take and give him the number and I'm gonna give you a ring later. We still have I think we have George I think we feel the callers George jump in there please.
Yes, uh Mark. I got you. Go ahead. Yes. You know the thing is I'm like it's time to talk about these bankers And they're all forced what they call the estate tax for two years now even fighting this estate tax because my mom don't have like over a million dollars in cash but as far as land and assets she has a she comes out to that amount and The way the taxi system is the way these elites want
We've got to give up over a half of our state just to pay this stupid estate tax that my parents pay for by their own labor. Now George, you're bringing up a subject that I'll stop you right in your tracks because here's how you eliminate the bankers. You do a will, you do a trust. You do what's called a living trust. There are many people, in fact, I'll use a person that everybody knows about but a lot of people don't like. O.J. Simpson, okay?
O.J. Simpson's daughter is completely cognizant and knowledgeable of trusts. She organized a trust years ago before the Orange Juice incident that everybody knows about out in California with the two people being stabbed. When they lost at the criminal battle and they went after him in the Civil Court and sued him, of course, for the death of the two people,
they were given a certain levy, in other words, a value of what they could take from him, but they didn't realize it until too late that almost all of his assets, almost 99% because of his daughter's forethought years earlier, almost all of his assets were into trusts. They couldn't touch a penny. That's why if you saw on CNN they were lamenting, we've only got so many thousand dollars. It's because by establishing a living trust,
The mechanism, all the resources are in the trust name, the shadow name, not in the person, not in the tangible. This is true of you and your family. You need to make a family trust with a living trust. This is a living process. All that changes are the executors of the living trust.
This eliminates all of that nonsense with regard to all of them trying to steal through taxation. The bar members do this. They don't tell people about trust for that reason. Because lawyers know to the penny and to the day how long it will take to let two parties litigate or fight over two or three parties involved in the death of a family member and a will.
A will can be established, but the lawyers are allowed to attack it, destroy it, chop it up, chew it up, or whatever. With a living trust, you, all of your siblings, and your parents sit down. They decide who's going to be the executive of what elements of the trust. All of them have to cooperate with the trust itself.
And because it's an ongoing entity separate from the family, you cannot tax through inheritance, the inheritance tax and all the other nonsense and these leeches, they can't steal it from the tax end. And the most important is the bar members can't then get family members to fight amongst themselves and litigate the property into the lawyer's hands.
I'm disgusted. I have watched lawyers. There's a farm located just in my west here. Four children divided the family, divided it up evenly. The parents did. Both of them passed away. Two boobies decided to fight over it. The property has been in litigation for almost 30 years. The lawyers milked every dollar to the exact penny of that property from the original owners because they got stupid and fought over it.
The lawyers own it all today. They had an equal share, four equal shares in this will, but the lawyers knew they were wicked vultures waiting. On the other hand, the living trust, your mom and dad, your parents sit down and they decide how it is as executors, the trust will be managed and they can write it in stone and it cannot change. Throw out, you know, get rid of the will idea, throw in the living trust, okay?
Yeah, just one more question I'm going to hang up. Where's all the gold that was supposed to be in Fort Knox? Well, that's a good point is what Mark brought up and what a lot of the other guys have been talking about for years. Ron Paul tried to get an official or real audit and they have been fighting that for a long time because they have been stealing the hard currency. They have been thieving the hard currency. This is part of collapsing the tent on this Ponzi scam because the purpose behind creating all of this indebtedness
is so that the hard currency first will be stolen from the country the rest of the way which is what's probably happened and then of course because we're in this outrageously excessive debt level everything that they can steal to pay for the debt will be stolen which is another thing that everybody is suspecting about this liberty attack the attack on the liberty coins is they're trying to find any and all precious metal that they can steal
right now to hand over to the shysters, to the spiders, to the international bankers, just like they did in 1929. Remember, when the depression came, there's an old joke, but it wasn't a joke. If you had a dollar you could eat, if you had a $20 bill, and we're talking Federal Reserve notes, if you had a $20 bill, you would starve. Why? Nobody had the change to break the $20 bill.
So that's what people have to understand. They're going to pull the money supply, the thieves, the scum, the dirtbags, the oigevolt, okay, the bankers are going to turn around and they are going to pull the money supply from the United States. Now, it was bad enough back in the 20s and early 30s.
where we at least had only like say a two for one, okay, there was two bills out there circulating for actually, oh, I should say that there was only one bill for the two fictional debts that they created. Today, there's only 10% in paper of the overall digits floating around. So you do the math. If they pull the money supply, if you aren't ready for this with some cash in hand to at least operate, or if we don't have an alternate currency, in other words, currency locally to operate on,
Their logic is they're going to get the whole economy of what's left of the economy to grind to a halt because simply there will be no oil, there will be no commerce, no commerce because the oil, money, which lubricates the wheels of commerce, will not be there. This crisis is what they will then use to bring in their other BS currency or the fictional currency as in plastic money or the cashless society.
Well Andrew Jackson was right, they are identities and vipers. I need to be driven from, that's right, five bullets, beans and bayonets because we're going to need them all. And we need the currency so that we will not embrace the policies of our enemy. Thank you George for bringing that up. And a living trust people, get rid of the will, work together, be honest.
God bless the Republic. After the New World Order, we shall prevail. The Empire is on the run. We are on the march. Fix bayonets, chase them down the road, give them a backpack full of rocks and some wet FRNs. And send them halfway back. Feed the sharks. Thank you and good night. Did you read this? Chicago just became the murder capital of America. I don't understand. It's been a felony to have a gun since 95. I thought that was supposed to prevent murders. Unincrease them.
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