November 14, 2007
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Mark Koernke hosted a "Weapons Wednesday" episode featuring guest David Tuff, an expert in rifle marksmanship and precision shooting. The discussion covered advanced rifle techniques, including long-range shooting at 300-1600 yards, barrel finishing and lapping methods to improve accuracy, the differences between bolt-action and semi-automatic rifles, shooting positions and sling techniques, wind reading and mirage observation for elevation adjustment, and custom ammunition loading versus factory loads. Koernke emphasized the historical importance of American rifleman skills and the need for proper training to maximize weapon potential.
- rifle marksmanship
- long-range shooting
- bolt action rifles
- barrel finishing
- ammunition loading
- m14
- m16
- fal rifles
- 50 caliber
- weapons wednesday
- preparedness
- second amendment
- we the people radio network
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood here by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land is free.
in home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free, in home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent.
Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled.
You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn.
and your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave?
O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the supreme law of the land, preserve our great Republic in each God-given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom bright. As Iowoki vanished in the midst for whence he came, his words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame.
For even now as tyrants trample each god given right We only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep And wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Dill the land of the free The intelligence report I'm Mark Cornky
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thing is a and I feel secure and safe knowing that for as far as we see we command the battlefield yes they may have force but we have already we don't have to wait for a paycheck or retirement package why you need to be better armed better equipped and that's what we're doing with this program you have a guest today coming up don't we got a pretty soft guy he's not braggadocious he won't tell you he won't come up on the radio and tell you yeah I've won palma nine times whatever the number is to
What we're talking about here is this is a master of marksmanship. In other words, mastering a particular system, a weapon system, and mastering one's body and demonstrating superior skill. You have the opportunity to hear from a teacher, an instructor, a person who knows his business, so to speak. No matter what it is, it's a good idea to listen. Well, we're going to give you an opportunity to hear from a gentleman who knows how to make his weapon reach to its maximum potential and to do it repeatedly.
again. That's rifle marchmanship, even the pistol. The pistol, there's a whole, as we always know, there's always competition or there's always rivalry between. Pistol shooters always say, you're a little off there, why don't you go join the belly gunners? Tongue in cheek. But in reality, guys, yeah, being a pistol marksman, you're absolutely right. At close range or intermediate range, we certainly can hit what we want to, you know, walk repeatedly in the same little quarter inch grille.
size group repeatedly with one little cross-strait that might be just a hair outside the group that's usually your first shot. Well a rifleman does that but he doesn't do that at 50 or you know 25 or 50 yards he does that at 300 yards, 500 yards, 1000 yards. And this is the mark of the American rifleman. This is the hallmark of the what actually became the concern of all of the armies of the world the individual infantry rifle marksmen of the United States
going from the American Revolution starting there and before of course it was historical and it was also legendary through to the present day unfortunately we've under gunned our troops and we're giving them stuff that doesn't reach to perhaps its full potential but you know where the rifleman can reach with his proper training. The idea here is to demonstrate that the skill and the artisans are still there and that's what we're bringing up today so we're going to let them done.
our guests to take the floor here progressively so that we can get the most out of this programming today and so that you get a chance to listen and learn. Now it's kind of fun because I'm from the middle school. I was not trained on the M16. I was trained on the M14. The M14 was the primary battle rifle. I had to kind of explain this to people today and yesterday that even though the M16A1 or well E1 then the A1 then the A2 of course are standard and issued all over the planet
It wasn't until after 1975 that officially the M16 was the actual battle rifle of the US military. It had always been the interim piece for temporary service, the M14. M14, US rifle, 7.62 millimeter M14, which is lightweight, with a magazine-fed shoulder weapon designed primarily for semi-automatic fire, and weapon, of course, you know, able to reach easily out to 650 yards in its conventional for a reasonable patterning group. Well, the gentleman I guess we have today is going to explain
you how they tighten that up and a lot more and with many different weapons systems, different rifles are used. And of course now we're looking at ranges of 1,200, 1,400, and 1,600 yards with shoulder fired weapons manufactured in the United States by another group of skilled tradesmen. There's a whole new world, and I don't see new world, because 50 caliber rifles have been around for a long time. We relearn the skill. We've re-embraced the knowledge by these men and women.
have our guest I wonder. Uh oh, pregnant pause there. There we go. Don, go right ahead please. How are you David? I'm good Don, how are you doing? My standard answer. You guys haven't listened over the years or maybe you're just coming back. This is a Republican, like he's not going to come up here and tell you I did this or I did that so I'm going to have to do some of that for him. I've won that event. I wanted to introduce you. You lived in the Texas house so I had to be begun when I was capable of sleep, graduated appellate rifles and then
We started shooting through time shooting a pistol and shooting a shotgun in a particular competition. I can generally beat those guys with the rifles and take care of those guys with the shotguns or take care of those guys with the pistols but to shoot a hundred thousand a year in their shotguns with times a year. 15,000 shotgun shells in a two or three month period. Well we're up to our first break Dave which is with us for about three minutes you guys we've got to you know pay the light Bill.
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Oh, I'm glad you mentioned that. Let's go in that direction for a minute. When you do that, you go to the sling, to your elbow, and then bring the gun back to the shoulder, right? Up your forearm, kind of where your elbow. Sling is a juck to the right length. You like, you know, ride a bike. And it came to my mind. You know what I mean? But you're at the wall or a picture on the wall. That's my, the bipod, a lot of the, the designed obviously to bring a service rifle. Years ago, I, you know, service rifle, one time I did it, you shot issue damage. Well, now you can shoot your own hand loads and
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50 caliber downrange without a brake on it and it would be like a 40 pound gun. When you turn around and you start talking about recoil and you know, you have to learn how to build a heavy recoiling gun or a thousand yards, single shot loaded, not shoot out of the magazine and not like a 600,000 yards, 20 shots at six and a half inch groups. The best group I've shot to date was reported, obviously I was using the scope because the wind was moving. Concerned more about the elevation when I shoot groups because in the summer going across, let's say we were
to watch the heat waves of the mirage run through. They coincide with the direction of the flag. It's, you know, one or two miles an hour and part way up to 5 a little further, you know, and above the point so I can read. Each that I'm shooting, if that's on New Mexico, the climate's much drier. And trying and shooting and watching mirage, then I'm able to do okay. It's ticking, letting off, and our lights are holding our scope right or left. As a new shot hole comes up and you make a, under the shot.
where it hit, the wash is done. Click adjustment or hold. On iron sides, you basically need to click it trying to break a perfect shot every time or a very good shot every time. And it's hard to estimate. If I ever 10 inches, 10 inches of wash, what it's doing, I've never shoot a thousand yards with a scope. I'm using a set of, if I needed five minutes of right wind, I'd put five in the last shot and what conditions have done since the last shot. When you're a couple minutes away from shooting for record,
and you look at the near flag and let's 200 yards and the flag at the end of the thousand yards there, well it's different you have to. When you, you'd be able to show when it affects you more than the further wind flag of hundred yards and then while looking at the mirage from, you know, obviously this is the time to punch in my claw. You try to shoot a shot in a couple of different conditions. Let's go back to the 70, let's put it several times.
where we'll be in our last section when we come back from break, you guys. Mr. David Tuff with us. Hang out to the other side, you guys. We'll be right back.
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I've got a number of questions and we're going to go in a couple of days. You have to be asked when you can check in as you don't send it off various other. Make a product called Final Finish. It's a strong part of the barrel many times. It's smoother than the internal barrel. So we make a product called Final Finish and obviously it's easier done like example of 50% on the initial treatment. But if you look at it, it's got two marks the entire length. Where they made it and where they chambered it. It might not have a tool mark the entire length of the barrel except where it got chambered.
there's a whole bunch of little angular tool marks obviously in the chamber which you can polish up but there's also two marks the lead or the throat area which is the transition area where the bullet gets squeezed into the rifling. To break in the lead or the throat needs a more aggressive treatment than a shot a kid or part of a kid of ours through it would lap in the lead he doesn't have parts in it like the rest of them. Once you've lapped it, you can do a charge, lap a barrel in and most people who shoot and clean shoot clean marks in the throat which are
One of the advantages of this, of course, is the idea that, again, you're able to bring the weapon up and on and into the groupings that you want much more rapidly. That's one of the big advantages, less wear and tear, little application of the barrel for its lifespan that you want to use it for, which, of course, is the rise in impact of the turn on in the target area. That's it. We're not shooting, including every shot. We're shooting and cleaning every 10 shots. Right. And, of course, pressure and velocity equate to fouling. Fouling is work on the bare metal.
use a light charge, when it's got, it's loaded, it's almost a maximum charge weight, so they've got to clean out a lot of fouling it. Now tying into this, one of the things real quick is that for the listeners, what we're looking at is a combination of technologies overlapping between improving the performance of the barrel combined with custom loading and you knowing what the impact point is and what the consistency of your bullets, load, primers,
We're talking about being able to tighten that group up and keep it more consistent at greater and greater ranges, and that's really what you're looking at, isn't it? You know, it's, it's, it's, now on the other hand, a lot of people don't hand, they, they handle it. They buy stuff off the shelf, and obviously there's lots of very good manufacturers who make excellent ammunition, but how well your rifle should begin with, and do it longer. That's one of the advantage. This way, again, I understand that this is actually something I'd recommend a lot of our people are using great FALs. They're looking at the G3 rifles, of course.
guns that are out there that they're looking for extending their range and keeping the accuracy, keeping the groups tight, you know, the group tight and consistent impact even with factory loads. And like you said, there are companies out there that do match grade loads. You can spend whatever money you want on ammunition. You can go up into the high Cadillac and Mercedes range or you can stick with your Oldsmobile and you know, when you're Buick or Dropback Shoppe when the time comes. Absolutely. You know, we put fast standard deviations everywhere you shoot it and shot groups.
and that equates to very little groups at least before we go any farther because we're getting close to the top of the hour can you give please give out take your time give out any phone numbers twice and any other sites twice so everybody knows how to get hold of you please. A special site which is a lot of PDF downloads www.linkshootw.com we're happy to send out catalogs we've just a catalog naming address standard time from 8 to 5 and having me on today and I appreciate the fact that
a lot of attentive listeners here, especially in this program, and this is our Weapons Wednesday, so anytime that you need to come up, or if there's anything new that's on the horizon that you want to tell our listeners about, we'd appreciate you coming back. You're always welcome. Well, thank you. You all have a great day. You bet. Talk to you soon, David. Very good. See you now. Bye-bye.
And we are at the top of the hour, ladies and gentlemen. Again, stay tuned. We've got another Our Weapons Wednesday in the next hour. But we're at the top now, Don. It went fast. Yes, it did. And I hope all of you are paying attention, taking notes. Remember, this program is archived. So you can go to We The People radio network and support the network in the process. God bless the Republic.
world order we show prevail ladies and gentlemen the empire is on the run we are on the march both day and night. Ooh raw six bayonets oh but wait a minute first hit them at great range go up and finish them with the bayonets and then get on with business and enjoy life thank you thank you Don thank you Mark god bless on September 1st vote rescue in our coalition Texans for real elections conducted an exit poll at the Texas straw poll in Fort Worth
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