November 7, 2007
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Mark Koernke conducted a detailed "Weapons Wednesday" episode focused on field patrol preparation and combat load management. He covered systematic equipment checks including canteens, ammunition, magazines, boots, camouflage, and weapons configuration for a squad-level operation. The show included extensive discussion of magazine distribution, ammunition redundancy, improvised body armor using Kevlar bathroom stall panels, handgun carry methods, and speed loaders for revolvers. In the second half, callers discussed Taiwan and Israeli ammunition imports to the United States military, the decline of American ammunition manufacturing, and the strategic importance of domestic ammunition production and civilian reloading capabilities.
- weapons wednesday
- squad patrol
- magazine distribution
- combat load
- ammunition
- body armor
- m14
- fnfal
- ar-15
- taiwan ammunition
- israeli ammunition
- ammunition manufacturing
- reloading
- field operations
- tactical gear
- second amendment
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free.
and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent.
Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current use in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled.
You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn.
and your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave?
Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the supreme law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and eat God given right. And pray to God to keep the torture freedom running bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame.
For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch and tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Dill the land of the free to go on patrol its weapons Wednesday intelligence report I'm mark carnekey
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to neutralize any liberty teeth. That's your job out there and that's why Weapons Wednesday is in place. Now, we're going to do something kind of like what we did years ago, and a little different as far as fire team is prepped. I've already done a final inspection. The rest of the squad is ready to go. The overall squad that I'm responsible for, I've gone down and I've checked everybody's canteens. I've checked to make sure everybody's topped off their ammunition and I have asked
It is not because I am insulting them. It is because my job, my responsibility as a fire team leader or squad leader is to make sure that my team is ready to go. And I will check because people try to be sly or try to be a little, try to get tired. This is another problem when you deal in combat situations or field operations, people get tired. The longer you operate in the field, the greater the fatigue issue becomes one of the formulas that has to be dealt with. Someone has to be sharp. And unfortunately squad leaders and team leaders
leaders, company commanders, battalion and brigade commanders get tired, they got to do more work. So you got to stay sharp. That means standard operating procedure, from SOP in specific areas. It's kind of like handling a chainsaw or a skill saw. You will find many people around the country who have deviated and cut corners. Don, what else to think of? Operations is not that you are in any way, shape or form, you know, demeaning anyone, you are doing your job.
So you check the canteens, make sure that the mags are topped off, make sure that you've distributed your squad ammunition. Now what that means is one man out of five men is designated an SAR man, Squad Automatic Rifle. The Squad Automatic Rifleman's job is to create suppression fire. This is one of the other reasons we have drums and large capacity mags for certain weapons. And they don't need to be for everyone in quantity. But the Squad Automatic Rifleman, especially if he can use either just, if all he has is an AK, just a regular AK with a drum in it, he's got him fire.
Give him two more drums and yes, I know they're heavy. Good dog. Okay That's the problem with being a squad automatic rifleman ask anybody ever carried a bar Say or an m60 carry the old hog anybody who's carrying a mag 58 anybody who's carrying a little mini mag mini man mini my is they've got a new name from now the new squad automatic rifle in 223
uh... no matter how you look at it that weapon weighs a little more because it does more it has a different mission it's got to have more ammunition but the animal from the gunner can't carry enough no matter what is it in our car p k man or whatever so you distribute the auxiliary magazines are loaded for his weapon amongst the team in addition to his excessive load that he's carrying
Now another thing, you have everybody in a buddy system check each other's equipment. What does this include? Well, guess what? You can't see behind your back and that's why your buddy is supposed to be helping out your team members. Each person checks the other person's gear. Each person makes sure that everything is squared away and everything is locked down. Make sure that all the straps are cinched because it's usually loosened up. You walk, you move, you move, you make other things move. The equipment starts to loosen up, parts fall off and you don't have a poncho or something opens up and you don't have a gas mask when you need it.
The same is also true for magazines. Check your auxiliary magazine pouches. A lot of men carry auxiliary mag pouches on their backpack. This includes M16 mag pouches left and right on the sides of the Allis pack. We do this quite often in groups of four. We'll put two on each side solid with 30 round mags. Now the reason, in other words, four mag pouches total, and this is your backup ammunition, but it's ready up ammunition.
Again, you're talking more weight, but you're a fighting unit. Now you're going on patrol at seven o'clock at night. You check to make sure that everybody's gear is squared away. Next, you check to make sure that their camouflage is in place. Make sure that they've got all of their cold weather gear if they're leaving. And I'm going to tell you something right now. Check each person's boots. Some fool told me before, and in fact, Nancy helped to deal with, we've been training people for years. And I had some fool tell me, oh, people won't wear jungle boots in the winter?
uh... i hate to tell you guys people grab boots thinking well you know i'm not going to be out that long and forget that jungle boots have those ventilators in the side of the have what is virtually a natural pumping action about every time you pull your foot up you start carrying every time you push your foot down you push her out so very quickly the temperature of your people match the external temperature cold in cold weather and especially in like freezing weather that means freezing feet very fast
Now, if I had to wear them because I'm stripping bodies and I couldn't get a good pair of boots in the meantime, a couple basic tricks here. Number one, Mr. Duct Tape, you seal up those venturis in the side of the breather ports and the side of the jungle boots. That's number one. Number two, you start looking for a pair of rubber boots. Rubber boots will save you a whole lot of misery. And for those of you who are thinking, man, I've only got tennis shoes and you probably may only have tennis shoes after a while.
start watching for five buckle rubber boots. Where do you get them? Well, you go to your feed mill, your farmer supply, you support the farmer supply A and number and B, you get a really good pair of rubber boots to protect your shoes from wet weather. What does this do? It allows your leather to last longer. I have boots I have had for almost 30 years now. They're tired now. I mean, they aren't tired because I've been wearing this now out of them over the past time, but they're actually one of the first pair of
combat boots that I got that were new issue back in the 70s. One of the tricks I was taught years ago is obviously first maintain them. Make sure that you dress the boots, make sure that you clean them up, make sure you clean them up. And I do abuse boots. There's some that I just torn into the ground intentionally. The ones that, you know, when you're in the field, you only got one pair or two pair of people. You got to keep them clean and you got to keep them dry. If you keep them dry, they're not going to shed calories.
If you shed calories, your feet will freeze. Think about what's happening. Your boots become radiators when they are wet. Moisture is an excellent radiator. Why do you think we use it in cars to keep engines cool? Draws calories out of an area and moves them somewhere else. Well, that's okay for a motor. We need to do that. That's right. And so again here, I'm checking my people's shoes, making sure that they're squared away there because it's going to happen. I have had this happen. I've had young men who were in a hurry.
Didn't want to get left behind, grabbed what they had, jumped into the vehicle, they're in the field, I'm looking at them. It's a little story to that, which by the way I incorporated into something and someday you'll read it if you read the series of books because the problem is a weather casualty will probably cost you three people, the person who made the mistake and the other two people who have to make sure that if he's evacuated he gets back alive.
You can't just point a person in a direction in cold weather and say, hey, walk that last mile or two miles we just walked because your feet are freezing. You can't do that because of the very nature of how thermal casualties degrade. You'll find them in the snow bank legs up when you come back through on that troll, say, five hours later. It's very embarrassing when that happens. You know, you got people sickles. So the problem is you have to have at least one, but probably two,
because you can assume that the casualty, if you do all you can for him in the field, you still have to get him off the battlefield. You have to get him back out of the field. That's a little sub-note, and it's things that people don't think about. Rubber boots, they're so cheap, it's ridiculous. People, you can get the nicer ones that go all the way up to the top of your calf that cover even your legs like a pair of gators. You can get the ones that are five-buckle, standard American. There's military green ones that are slip-on that have three little elastic bands, not very fancy, and they're also the present chem boot, by the way.
Okay, I got your feet taken care of. We know you all got gloves. I've checked everybody to make sure that they're squared away. I've tapped their canteens, and this is what you do. You walk along and you actually tap them. Why? Well, you can tell the difference between an MP and a full real quick, and you'll learn. Now, weapons. We make sure that we alternate our weapons left and right on patrol. Most firepower to the front, so in other words, if you only have a couple of drums, the point man gets a drum.
the second man in line, if at all possible, and obviously the squad man that's designated. Now when I say designated, it works this way. Squad automatic rifleman, if you had, if you were to capture automatic weapons, okay, the squad man gets the automatic weapon. Why? Again, he's creating cones of fire, cones of destruction to engage a target. We've got our point man squared away, we've got everybody else, you're going to alternate our weapons left and right to create fields of fire control.
left and right. Now, you gotta remember and pay attention. This is part of that, even if you're fatigued, it's part of your thought process. You need to pay attention. We're gonna get back to weapons here for a little bit in the personal area. Did you check to make sure all your mags were clean? Did you top off all of your mags? When you put your magazines into your mag pouch, face the bullets away from you. Do not put the primers out.
This sounds like a small thing, but there are a large percentage of casualties, not a great, I won't say large, but a good percentage of casualties who were actually wounded by their own ammunition in the magazines. Why? Well, on the battlefield, sharp, pointy, nasty things, you know, generated by everything from mortar rounds to grenades to even other bullets flying down ranges ricochets,
impact onto your equipment and this has happened many times especially when a lot of bullets are flying. You're bad enough to get hit by somebody else's bullet. Here's the kicker. Something hits the base of one of your rounds, caps it, it detonates the bullet into you while of course you still get hit with a spall off the round that hit the back of the case and the magazine. So we always point the bullets out, primers towards our body if our magazines are situated that way. Now the M14 G3
Most of those magazines, FNFAL, most of those mag pouches lay flat to the body. So don't necessarily worry about that. Also, make sure with grenades and with pyrotechnics that you use paper tape to secure them. Notice I didn't say electrical tape. Do you want something in your way when you have to pull a pin? No. Sometimes all that does is stretch and stretch.
Stretch. Masking tape, what it does is tears. So this is a second safety. You pull all the other safeties, but the pin off of the grenade, the smoke device, the illumination flare, and you make sure it's paper taped with one or two wraps just to secure it. It creates a second safety to prevent the pin from being pulled by foliage and debris. Anyway, we're almost ready to go on patrol, but we're also going to make sure that we secure the weapons the rest of the way. We're going to be back in about three minutes here with Don and Mark and the 86 mechanized.
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That's right. And whatever you can afford. In other words, you keep buying more. Why? The combat load that we typically carry for the M1A, we are a copy of the M14, the FNFAL, or for the G3 is 22 magazines minimum. Did everybody hear that? 22 magazines minimum. You will not have enough magazines with those 22 mags that you're carrying. You're going to lose things.
Well, ideally, if you look, the British had an excellent little system. In fact, sometimes you guys out there ask them about gear. If you got an FNFL, an M14, M1A, or the G3 assault rifle, the British Webgear is a Type 55, 57 stuff. Canvas, it's a thin canvas, not as heavy as the American stuff. Comes with a dual butt pack system, has a couple of utility side pouches, mag pouches.
It's in two assemblies. The suspender assembly above has pouches that automatically stitched in and attached to it. Nice wide shoulder pads. The basic web gear itself down below is set up in another belt configuration, but with everything fixtured and attached. These are a nice system. They're not super heavy, so if you're going to buy them, buy an extra set because you are going to wear equipment out. But the British were smart. They planned on everybody carrying as many mags as they could.
distributed and if you look at this web gear there's single mag pouches all over the equipment on top of the backpack on the sides of the backpack a little backpack like what we call a day pack or a or an m43 pack is what it was the equivalent to also on the sides of the butt pouches on the top of the on the lid literally the the top flap there is a little mag pouch there the idea is to distribute your combat weight over your person so it's not all front forward
Now, we should think the same way when it comes to carrying your combat gear and your combat load. Why? Well, again, guys, if you have weight forward, you have a tendency to think differently. In fact, you're off balance. We want to try and, again, create symmetry, keep your center of gravity low, not high. We don't want you flopping over simply because you got pushed. You're going to get fatigued. I cannot stress this enough. You are going to get tired. Think tired. OK? Think, well, what am I going to do when I've been up for two days?
Magazine weld gets really really small, the magazines get really really big. I have to start fumbling around for stuff. I'm gonna fumble anyway. You're gonna get tired. It's that simple. But if you use a standard mechanism for with regard to your web gear, you should be able to close your eyes and reach to a place and by memory automatically know where it is. That's why the other side, they always do this, they don't want you to train. They don't want you to think about touching your weapons and they don't want you to think about an integrated system. Have you ever noticed in all these movies?
the guy grabs the rifle or grabs a pistol you never see him grabbing anything to support it even though he has plenty of time okay and it just seems to fire forever they want you to be conditioned that way oh and my favorite when you do empty the weapon every notice in Hollywood oh you get disgusted with it and throw it down now if I was out of ammunition if I just been firing at you and I know but I'm out of ammunition you don't know what if I pop back up and aim at you are you gonna stand there and wait to see if I'm empty
Okay, so why would you throw down your weapon? But this is all part of what we've mentioned many times, mental conditioning. Now, if you, if and whenever possible, you need to make sure that you do recover magazines if you drop them, but you don't risk your life over them. For this reason, you carry spares, you carry extras, things get busted, you're running through a debris-filled area, a real battlefield.
You're running through a woods a very bad place at night. It's about nine o'clock at night. We're out on patrol now We're running through the woods your magazine protrudes below the base of your firearm as you're running through the woods You didn't see that log or that chunk of wood That was it about waist or chest height and the next thing you hear is snap crack pop as one of your guys runs into that branch runs into that piece of wood not because he planned out but because it's lined up and it was I was it was obscured by his line of sight or from his line of sight and he hits it and
something busted. You don't know what it is yet, but you check and you find, look at that, there's a bunch of chicklets on the ground made out of brass and you've got a busted magazine. Gotta change that, but there goes one right there. Under any free fire exchange where you're firing at night or day, you don't know where the bullets are gonna go. You think you've got 22 loaded magazines, unfortunately you reach to your right rear mag pouch and you find out that a bullet passed through both magazines. There go two more.
Okay, think of all the things that could happen. You're fumbling to put a magazine in the weapon. All of a sudden, this Paul Boy pops up. Guess what? Well, he was a little too close. You didn't quite get the magazine in, but you were able to turn his face into a pile of mush by stomping on it and kicking on it and beating on him, cross-barring him with the side of the receiver. Unfortunately, while you did that, the mag, which wasn't secured, drops out of the weapon.
Yeah, and where to go? Well, your only option is to head for the next magpouch, so to speak. In other words, automatic response. Can't find it! That's right. Now your life's value has changed dramatically because people are hunting you and trying to kill you. So, you're going to have to think again, redundancy, extras, extras of everything. And by the way, this gets into the next subject. Do you have your handgun, on station, or handguns, and I don't care how many you carry.
where you know you can reach it automatically with, say, your eyes closed and in a state of delirium, because that may be the case. If you're going from your long gun to your handgun, you're either hurt, you're in jeopardy, literally in jeopardy. You're at close quarters with an enemy who's either closing on you or is already grappling with you. Are you able to access your firearm and use it at close quarters conveniently? Do you know where it is? Can you reach it?
or can you reach any of them. Now that's why guys place weapons in different locations because of how they move through the field. Or think about crouching because whenever possible always make yourself a smaller target. Okay, with regard to the mags again, we're getting back to these real quick. Distribute the mags and also carry spares if you can in your backpack. Also extra parts. Now, if something gets shot and it's damaged or broken and you can recover it,
recover it, throw it into either the buck pack or, now this is one of the tricks that we do, is your left pocket on your pants. I want you to open it up, I want you to take a look at how convenient that is, but how it sags when it's open. Okay, what do we do to make that more convenient for us to use it as a tool? Well, have your wife, or if you are good at sewing, get a piece of elastic.
and elasticize the top lip of your popcorn pockets on your pants but at least the ones on your left side if you're a right-handed shooter. Why? Instead of trying to fumble and put that mag, if you're in a combat situation where you have to fire, fire, fire, pop, pop, pop, fire, fire, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop,
Okay, fire, fire. What you do is when you drop the mag instead of putting the mag pouch you slide it quick into that open popcorn pocket because it's sphinctered at the top. The mag's not going to rattle out or drop out when you're running. It's going to be inside that pop that six pocket on the left side on your thigh. Okay, now when you stop you got time to reorganize. You take your empties, you put them farthest to the rear, you take your loaded mags farthest to the front.
I have mentioned this before on the air. When you are fighting, make sure that the magazines that you use first, especially since your aggressor is probably further away, use the mags to the rear first. They are less convenient to access. As an enemy closes, you are going to reduce your combat operational time by using your forward magazines last when it counts. See how that works? Back to front. It's going to be in, up, clunk, clunk.
magazine release or bolt release, check pass, actually your response will be faster by one quarter, trust me. You will be amazed at how quickly you can operate once you have practiced, practiced, practiced immediate operation or immediate action drills.
to the point where it's just automatic. Even days tired, wounded, you will be able to operate that weapon, you will work with your gear under any conditions, and you can do this. Now trust me, if you don't catch on right away, I should say right now, you will catch on later on when your life depends on it. So we're going to try and plant these seeds now to make sure that you're lined up to speed before that happens.
Well, we're at the bottom of the hour break. We're just about ready to go on patrol. And we've got pretty much all our equipment squared away, but we're still going to go over the handgun the rest of the way. We'll be back in about three minutes.
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Hard would be best, but anything would work. And actually run it through the body of the magazine, if it's bent, it bent bad enough. And then use that as an anvil, structuring the mag to try and get it to work. Better a-mag than no-mag. The last one. It's in harsh language and better than having to hand load with a gas arpare gun and take forever to do it, as we know. If you ever tried to reload the AR-15 by hand one round at a time, that ain't no font. Yeah, it's worse than a four mark on the year. And within two months after that, I saw
And one of them, the slide, was bent pretty good. And it had the bullet... Even if you had time, you'd be amazed how much you can, again, hammer back into place. It may not work perfectly, but it's another weapon if you can recover the firearm. But the firearm saved a person, probably. If it took a bullet, that bullet probably would have hit the operator, and still probably spalled it and hurt him. But it didn't kill him.
In many cases that's happened, especially guys, you think about it, there's another thing I want to mention. When you do carry mags forward, remember they're just another layer of body armor in many cases, but that's also why you want to make sure that those primers are facing inward and the bullets are facing out. Because somebody's aiming center of mass to try and hit you, chances are the bullets are going to be in a particular area. Gee, to the front.
So, and you're facing them and you're returning fire, hopefully, rather than trying to cringe and hide and, you know, again, shout and use harsh language. The whole point is that everything to your front is actually more material between you and the sharp, pointy things that are trying to hurt you.
and your weapon in your shoulder holster, your mags in the mag pouches, your body armor. Even if you didn't have body armor, let me give you a little trick here. This is cool, and most people don't realize you got body armor laying all over the place. Now of course, we aren't going to do this right now, but let's say that I needed Kevlar paneling for armoring my truck.
or for armoring my person. Let's say I want to make a shock plate for the front that I can cut it down. Have you noticed all of these bathroom stalls at rest areas and in stores that look like they're heavy plastic? Those aren't just heavy plastic. Those are actual Kevlar cast panels.
And guess what? They will stop at 308. Why do I know? Well, you gotta remember I work at the U. You know what the cost per stall was to replace those things? When they first came out, $6,000 worth of Kevlar per bathroom stall. What they'll stop? Those side solid panels will stop at 308 Winchester slash NATO dead cold. Now, what if I were a creative soul and I
I had spare junk parts that came off of the stalls, guys, that were from when they were installed, when they were put in, like when I was talking to the guys who were installing the ones at the U. Oops. And let's say I get panels that are about a foot and a half wide, oh, about six feet long. How many shock panels can I make to improvise body armor for the front and back of a person, or to make a couple of flexible panel sides?
Now I've got basically threat level 4 armor for free or if you've got an old bathroom somewhere, okay I know this, these bathroom stalls with these solid plastic slash Kevlar panels that are available could be cut to size and there's a poor man's body armor. Now you don't run the whole length of your body but you can make panels up that can be inserted for instance into the back of your chest pouches.
or in the back of your assault vest or in the sides. Remember a lot of your assault vests have side slide panels behind or in front of the padding that makes up the base of the vest that lays next to your person. These pockets, what you do is you cut the paneling, the Kevlar, to the sides of those pockets and insert them and now you have some Kevlar protection. Now think about this, if you're wearing body armor underneath this, what threat level protection do you have then?
now add the magazines and all the other fun stuff you have it it does help to slow rounds down a lot of you guys will know that the chinese use the chest pouch some of you guys are vietnam vets know that it that was poor man's body armor they might have lost a mag but chances are they saved their life now how how crude can you be a lot of my friends and my uncle's fought in korea the chinese would take uh... ochre pine border or any kind of board slats they could get
break them. They couldn't even cut them. They didn't have saws. What they did is they cut them the length of their torso from their belt line to just under their neck and then they laced themselves with hemp rope.
top to bottom and laced the board in. You virtually cinched it right into them in layer upon layer upon layer, top to bottom and created poor man's body armor. Now they took most of the energy out of the rounds they were being hit with plus in the winter, remember you're wearing all the extra winter clothing and it may not have saved them but it gave them enough energy so they could get close enough to kill you. See what I mean? It eliminated most of the energy against the target. So again, everything around you actually supports you.
Now, we're going to switch real quick because we've got collars too here, but we've got one more thing that's handguns. Before I go out on patrol, if you have a revolver, find speed loaders. Now, I know some of your gate revolvers are not going to be able to do this, but for almost every revolver out there, you can either get the speed loader that fits that weapon, or you can carry one that's close enough you won't know the difference. A handful of chiclets is not as desirable as a couple of speed loaders in hand where you just pop it in, twist, boom, you're done. Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.
Open cylinder, there we go, drop, next speed loader, click. Okay, see how that works? Magazines, make sure again that you have, pick up as many as you can for your weapon, carry at least one in the weapon obviously, and four additional magazines no matter what the weapon is. Even if it's a Browning high power or a Glock, more is better. Okay, just look at it this way. You don't want to have to be fumbling around in the dark for a box of ammunition to try and reload magazines.
Okay, you'll do that. Eventually you're going to get to that point perhaps because you don't know how you're going to get fixed, pinned down, or how you're going to have to engage, or how much ammunition you're consuming against an aggressor. That's after everything else that you've already been carrying in your combat load. Okay?
Now, another little quick point, if you're carrying an Air 15, Mini 14, or even the AK-47, you can carry more or fewer magazines depending upon combat weight. And the one formula here that has to be tied into everything we're talking about, and remember I've said this many times, you can carry a lot of ultralight stuff, but the time you carry a whole bunch of ultralight stuff, you got a lot of real heavy stuff in one lump. Of age, the old what's your life worth factor with regard to training. Just like I've said many times, carry a 30 caliber ammo can.
I got a video and I'm trying to figure out, I'm going to incorporate this. It was a multi brigade exercise. We had over like 600 people in the field here in one operation in Michigan. The footage is phenomenal because it's a deep shot that's about a mile and a half deep and there are at least five companies of 100 men moving in this one shot. In the foreground there's this one guy, I didn't know it was a hot summer day.
and it was a quick reaction operation where everybody is deployed, spread out, first they come in and of course they're forming at different areas but the shot is very deep, it's an excellent video. In the foreground you watch it looks just like out of platoon, one of the guys who's rushing, doing overwatch, moves forward, throws his arm near and flops face down. Why? He was carrying 600 rounds of ammunition in ammo camps.
I hate to tell you, plus his combat load of 24 magazines, plus his M1A. Heat exhaustion overcame the person real quick, guys. So you've got to balance weight against sensibilities and physical restrictions. I'll tell you what, we're going to break, and our last break will be back.
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Alright you guys here we are the intelligence report. We're going to put this off for about 15 minutes. We're going to shift gears here. We've got a number of callers. We've got Tom and Jeff and Alfie Omega. We got you, go right ahead. Okay, I got an article here from China Times. Juan has shipped 1 billion rifle bullets of 5.56 to the United States. I believe that. The Israelis are doing the same thing. What was the date for that paper? November 6. November 6, that was Taiwan, right? Yes.
Now, you see, that's an interesting point because this is a total reversal. I don't know if you're familiar with this, but years ago, Winchester, Remington were flush with ammo to the point where they were doing foreign contracts for Malaysia, Indonesia, and Taiwan. Now, we have done such damage to our industrial base that we are importing from at least three different countries into the United States. Now, this is what they're doing, using it for
They're using it for the CONUS. Okay, CONUS operations. This has happened before, back in the 70s. They were short ammunition. Well, not short. They actually were doing an economic, it was economically intelligent. They were buying remit reloaded ammunition in 38 special 357, which is a good policy for training purposes. We are buying ammunition from the Israelis in 5562, 5516 slash 223.
from the Israelis, but because of course we don't want to, you know, they don't want to supposedly shooting the Arabs with Israeli ammunition because it would be an insult. We are shipping the ammunition here and then marking the boxes for a US, for, you know, for CONUS use only, you know, for use inside the United States. This Taiwanese ammunition will probably be the same situation. The only good thing I would say about the Taiwan stuff, the Taiwanese ammunition is that they have a good standard, they
They produce good equipment, they produce good ammunition, I wouldn't even think twice about using it, but that's pretty sad when we're going from, we're going to a third party for ammunition production for the United States military, outside the United States, which is ludicrous. If we're a supposed superpower, why are we having to buy from third-rate nations? We got Singapore and Korea for the five-year contract. Korean people are selling their ammunition, why is...
Now PMC, remember I mentioned this before, Korean ammo. Now Korean ammo is excellent too. Now the only difference, I'm going to remind everybody for reloading on this. One of the things to do is we always do what's called a cut test where we take so many pieces of brass, we split them right down the middle, we cut them with a saw and we gauge the thickness of the walls of the brass.
PMC is beautifully made ammunition, it's all brass, but to save money there, the walls are thinner on the brass with regard to the rifle millet. This is not a problem, they're perfectly safe to shoot, you're not gonna die or anything, but it means that because the brass is thinner, it cannot be reloaded as many times. However, it can be reloaded just fine, you just gotta make sure you do what we call stress tests, you wanna make sure you inspect the brass after each cycle of firing as far as your general brass, and then use it accordingly.
Singapore has been making just like Korea and just like Taiwan have been making M16 knockoffs for about 25 years. So they make an exact copy and one of them was an unlicensed copy and then they got caught in the act and they backed off and I think they re-licensed is what they did with Colt. But they were building knockoffs and had been building knockoffs originally of the M16A1, now the A2, they make cars, they make the whole family of rifles.
that's where the ammunition they're selling those to somebody they're selling the and they're just making two to three they do make uh... seven six two eight oh slash uh... you know the uh...
308 Winchester and they do make 30 caliber Russian and 545. But the dominant caliber that they've been using for a long time is 223 so they're completely up to production. And this says it's a five year contract, correct? Yep. Five year contract if they just started. Gee, that's a five year contract that could have been in America's hands somewhere with an American company with a bunch of skilled labor Americans.
actually getting paid well and the Americans would benefit from it. Now I'm going to ask everybody, it's a listener, how does Taiwan making ammunition for the United States military benefit an American worker or an American taxpayer? And here's the thing, those are skilled labor jobs because it requires, it's not just throwing ammunition together. There's clean room policies that are involved. We've, we had the highest standard
I don't care what anybody says. We are the gold standard in ammunition or war and produced ammunition likes which nobody else on the planet could even match. And now here we are buying from Taiwan and from the Israelis who I don't trust at all because they're scam artists. Those characters will tell you they're selling you one thing, they'll tell you they're putting one kind of powder in the ammo.
and then turn around and throw something totally junky and different in its place once they figure you're asleep and they're into production. They've been caught at this three different times just like a couple of even here in the United States is bad enough. These characters are overseas where you can't keep an eye on them. I can't watch the Taiwanese plant and send inspectors there when we can, but how much does it cost to send people all the way around the planet?
You know, the thing is, you know they won't do that. What they're going to do is they're going to have some bought and paid for character who's going to be in the factory. The Taiwanese are going to go, hey, I'll slide you some shekels here. Look, you've got an account over in the Cayman Islands now, over in Switzerland, or over in Indonesia. Here's a million dollars. You turn a blind eye, and all of a sudden what's going into that bullet, what's going into that case, powder-wise, is totally different from what was promised.
Frankfurt Arsenal, St. Louis, it could have been there's a thousand, well not a thousand, we had, we had, we have all kinds of industrial potential here and we are not benefiting at all by having some foreign schmuck, and I don't care who it is, I'm sorry, for all our listeners overseas, America needs to take care of America and when you are not producing your weapons and ammunition, you are not protecting your nation. For me it's the Jallian army arsenal. Exactly.
well think about it how many people have you known and i mean i mean granted here again it only to government job in that respect but there are there are still there are so many companies we should be building up right if this is supposedly going to be you know okay for dan for com for jeff for alfie don myself guys didn't they tell us is going to be a forever war this is a last forever
Well, if that's the case, then why aren't we building factories here that are the size of say General Motors' Hydramatic Plant and doing nothing but building ammo because we're going to be at war for a century? Does that make any sense? You're right. That don't make no sense to me other than these traders and the CFR by trying to sell us a bill of goods. And as old Carl Miller used to say, we ain't buying no fish off that cart. Okay. Same thing with the 5.5. I've said they needed a better bullet.
eight yet. Right, and the discussion in the industry is that they're not going to. They may do it if they feel that there's a crisis and they need to disarm America. They'll do it because it's called the colonial round. What will happen is they will switch calibers so that only government troops have it. People forget that when the Air 15 first came out in its M16 configuration, there wasn't any surplus ammo. That's why in 1977 we had no ammunition in the United States.
We came up with solutions. We bought the scrap brass from the Department of Defense. We turned around and we bought bullets from the different manufacturers. Okay, the 55 grain FMJ, but when we couldn't get those, we were making bullets out of 22 caliber expended rimfire cases and lead stutter stick. Okay, you combine the two, you use a standard carbine type powder. There are a number of different powders, Winchester and IMRs that we used, better than the military powder that they were using at the time.
Standard rifle primer and wow we were reloading millions of two two three rounds because we had to Now I think that's why they loosened up the ammunition because we created an entire Manufacturing base in the United States and it was run at the person level now That's why I will say again all of you all of you all of you right now Gotta get into reloading gotta get into reloading and do it now Tom I sounds like you're already doing that yes, I've been reloading for a long time it is
right people and they can go talk to PMC.
the average person that the treat is talking to. Yeah. Oh, no, no, no. There's no, that means that they're scared to death that we're because I've said this before and I will tell everyone again, we need it off even the gun store shelves and into the people's hands across the whole of the country. Yes. Tactically distributed. Go ahead and kick the door into the gun show, gun shop. What difference does it make? We got all of it.
Yep, you know you know that's the red dawn scenario so to speak everybody kind of jokes about but it's not a joke It's the idea they they know that they're gonna go to the sporting goods stores. That is the plan of the bat faggots It's good to hear from you Tom. Thank you. Don't talk to you again Yep, thanks for calling Tom. I'll tell you what Jeff and Alfie if you could hold we got we've got another hour coming up Please I know you guys have been so patient
Don, we're at the top of the hour, so quick. Yes. As always, God bless the Republic. Yes, to the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We are on the march, both day and night. Check your weapons, check your magazine, watch your buddy, make sure that your weapon is pointed downrange, left and right. We're on patrol, we'll be back in about six minutes. Thank you, Don. Thank you, Mark. God bless.
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