Mark Koernke broadcast live from Shoney's near Knob Creek, Kentucky during a three-day shooting event (October 12-14, 2007). He discussed Ron Paul's 2007 presidential campaign, grassroots fundraising efforts, and media bias against Paul. Koernke recounted his prison experiences producing books and conducting sovereignty classes, detailing the underground production of the Battle for the Republic and Dagger Wars book series. He addressed technology issues including software compatibility problems, the importance of legacy computer systems for post-collapse scenarios, and security vulnerabilities in government equipment disposal. Callers discussed older software versions, OpenOffice alternatives, and the value of maintaining redundant older computer systems.
I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land is free.
in home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free, in home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent.
Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled.
You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn.
and your daughters visit doctors. So they're children, old people. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedom for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave?
Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the supreme law of the land, preserve our great Republic in each God-given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the midst for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame.
For even now as tyrants trampled each god-given right we only watch and tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms He fought to keep what would be your answer? He called out from the grave Dil the land of the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report it is Thursday
One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories south, southwest, southeast, and north. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on the People Radio Network, mutprn.com. Also on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com. We're on AM and FM micro and major stations across the United States.
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being done there. The guys have got some of the select videos and work that's been done by our people around the country in the Patriot effort and specifically people that work with WTPRN as part of the news crew. And I should say information crew. Oh, forgive me, guys. You can slap me through the microphone because we don't do news. We do information. And we try to, of course, plant seeds. Now, real quick from our end, if you go to YouTube and then search a Liberty Tree radio, the speech with Ron Paul
that was done at the U of M at the Diag, about 2,200 to 2,500 people attended at least. And we went low, not high. That way, of course, everybody would be happy.
awesome excellent video work was done mister d did a great job with the camera we had other people running the cameras to sort of put up an addendum supplemental video showing you the people on the ground so they can have some fun with that because we had bra stock footage got built within those you know time increments with youtube when you do ten minutes at a time uh... looked really good are very well executed and i think everybody was happy in the process uh... with what they heard everybody was attending the listen so very very well done
to the guys on the U of M campus and for all of our friends and everybody that is allied towards helping Ron Paul to be our next president. And for all the kids that are out there listening, I'm giving you a, here's a cue here. Here's something I'd like to see. Every time that Ron Paul is mentioned on the air, and you've all seen this now in one form or another, because everybody's talking about Ron Paul. Whenever they mention Ron Paul, you'll notice the talking head goes bug eyed and immediately blurts.
out. Paul, he doesn't stand a chance. Oh, he doesn't stand a chance. He does not stand a chance. Okay, take your pick. If it's ABC, NBC, CBS, I don't care if it's whatever yapping head, they make a point of using the exact same. Anybody who's one of our little, our little media people out there that's got some really cool technology, a little bit of editing time and equipment, take the time to go through and pull every one of these out that you can find.
because it's blurted out as you know we've got to in the morning you've got the the three evil sisters but you only see the one you've got uh... trinidad uh... so with that and uh... her most evilest of sister bag of that well mostly a seat so with that in the morning anyway so with that uh... you know she's talking to whatever the talking head was it was uh... saying of the astral who's your favorite of the uh... running for president right now
And the guy goes, well, I really like Ron Paul. And the moment that he said Ron Paul, her eyes go, because it's not her mind that brought this up. In her ear, there was a microphone. And there, telling her what to say. Well, it's because they were blurting. Yeah, I mean, they had to be. And so she blurts out exactly what she's, what was blurted into her earpiece. Oh, Ron Paul. Oh, he doesn't have a chance.
Now, if I heard a variation on this, you know, it'd be cool, but you see they're so pap and they've got such a cookie cutter operation and they know they have to repeat the same words over and over again for propaganda to work. ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN are all the same. Now guys, collect all this footage, come up with a cool way to bring the subject forward, you know, like Ron Paul talking,
the people that we elected the diagon all over the country showing different shots and then over wait a minute to control me it says uh... ron pauli doesn't have a chance to go to chance it doesn't have to do with all the different voice changes and then uh... well we think otherwise
And then just throw that five million dollars up there across the screen. Five million dollars raised by grassroots members. There's not big money that came in there. It's all of you that made Ron Paul capable of exceeding McCain's resources. It is you, all of you, everyone of you listening from the guys at WTPRN to the guys on the Diag to the guys and girls out west, down south, up north, back east, all over the country. It is you that made this happen.
And the other side is terrified of it. Now, let's keep the momentum going. Let's stay focused. Let's make sure that Ron Paul gets into the nomination. But that means all of you have to repeat, repeat, repeat. Yes, I know it gets tiring. Trust me, I've been doing this for a long time. And the cool thing is that I had Ron Paul up years ago, and it's kind of fun because I've been going through the archives. I'm trying to pull these out, and it takes a lot of time because I have thousands and thousands of hours of tape. I mean, thousands.
tens of thousands. Anybody who's been here knows this. But I have, we've got Ron Paul on the air back from back in the 90s. And he was a guest. He's been a guest at different times on our, on the intel report. He doesn't sound any different today than he did in 1993, 1995, 1998. Even going back through the 80s, go back through even to when he first started getting into politics. And of course he's been, you know, he's been working at this for a long time. I believe that this would be a great
reward for the American people to have an honest-to-goodness patriot, an American, for a change as opposed to these rubber-lipped politicians who do nothing but serve. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the Intelligence Report Live. We're doing it from a different location. We had to start out with a little bit of a recording time there, so you had to hear something. We can't have dead airspace on the radio.
Anyway, this is the Intelligence Report. I'm Mark Corny. And I'm Nancy Corny. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, north, south, central, and northeast. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on We the People Radio Network, wtprn.com, and all of the other methods that you're familiar with.
We're also on alternate vertical five and seven today on the continuance of our test program. You can find us on galaxy 25 KU band, go to WTP RN's website and we're on we the people radio network while we're on liberty tree radio dot four mg dot com. We got everybody listening here but they're all going to say hi right now say hi everybody from all over the the United States everybody saying hello here and we're going to do some question and answer while we're doing the programming today.
And we've got a lot of people here that are already in place and more that are coming in. We're down at... Drink. That's right. We're in that favorite of places when you're on that first or actually almost second weekend of the month in October when things go boom up in the mountains big time. And so you're going to see everything from small arms fire to artillery to, oh, wait a minute, those mobile zippos we call flamethrowers.
So if you want to have some fun with something that burns weeds and funny black uniforms, then you've got an excellent choice right there. And by the way, remember, they're weed burners. There's no paperwork or administrative restriction with regard to owning a flamethrower. Now when six people come in, usually when they go back out the front door, they're going, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, and the plastic is sticking to their hands, and the gloves are coming off, and they're trying to get the gas mask off because it sticks to the face. Very embarrassing.
But anyway, once they're laying around in the front yard, the immortal words of that young captain in Omaha Beach when they flame the one bunker and all the Germans roll out burning, remember what he said? Let them burn. You don't shoot them the second time, that's a waste of ammunition. You know, just use the Zippo, be done with it, head on to other targets. That's all there is to it. So anyway, we're down here and there's a three day shoot, as everybody knows. It's from the 12th, the 13th, and the 14th.
And what we do is the guys get out there on the range and they demonstrate, of course we also have a large gun show, in addition to the swap meet, in addition to a three gun shoot, and that's been going on today already. So ammunition sales, if you guys get a chance, all you gotta do is run up or down M65, get off on Route 44, head westbound, because it's just that one turn that you have to make.
follow 44 up into the mountains you can't miss it there's a beautiful valley off to the right if you're coming in from M65 and as you're I'm sure I 65 we get that right I 65 M60 or M65 and M60 and everywhere we are but anyway you get up in the mountains and there's a beautiful valley off to the right you go a little farther you get a little flat area and you're on the top of the ridge left-hand side is Nob Creek and lots of parking you've got camping
we have a lot of other facilities so that are nearby so you can go where you can go use a motel you can not camp with your camper purely up to you a lot of people stay right there poker face is on site right now so poker faces down their plan yep and they're going to be the campsite and uh... we might have a lot of on the six o'clock program tomorrow night we'll see what happens with that because six o'clock
That's going to be our micro effect program. Uh oh, we may not have to do that. That's right, they've changed programming too. I forgot all about that. Oh yeah. So anyway, advancements, things are changing.
As we all know, the deployment back east is continuing to settle down, so for all of our militia units that are on the east coast, I will remind you that it's not over yet. And the basic rule is when you leave a facility, leave the facility looking as good or better than when you showed up. In other words, clean up after yourself. You leave no debris, no mess, no small arms, brass or anything, because we need all the brass nowadays, guys. Got to reload it all.
Make sure that you leave all of the bulk food. It was supposed to stay there in the first place. It's for pre-deployment now, and it's a gift to the host while you were there. In addition, when you are traveling, always know where everyone is. This is most important. When you're evacuating from an area or moving from one area to another, once you've completed an operation, when you evac, make sure that everybody is accounted for. Make sure that you count all your gear that went in, and it's in the vehicles and going out.
tomorrow night by the way for Knob Creek we're going to have a big grand finale but it's a big evening shoot so you've got plenty of time to get up here in the next 24 hours. If you're up here tomorrow night you'll see everything going off during the night fire, cars, parts, pieces of refrigerators flying in all directions. They're about as good as it gets. The only thing I wanted to do is get about 20 gallons of house paint like in flat green, flat black and say flat loam.
paint up the cars beforehand to make everybody feel more comfortable with UN markers on the side. It would be ideal, little white areas. So we're thinking about that or just trying to decide what we're going to do. Of course, now Nancy has done a lot of radio too, as everybody's familiar, and with the kitchen militia program, and we're working on getting that back up and on the air. So we'll see how that goes. We'll have more time now. That's right. We'll see what happens.
Anyway, where we are, we've got our regular breaks and I don't have a watch handy, but I think we're getting close here. In fact, guess what? I kinda queued that. There it is. Just about right. So we're on our first break. This is the Intel report. You got Nancy and Mark and the crew down here at Shoney's on 44. If you're in the area, come on down. You might be listening via internet. You probably are. We'll be here for a few hours. We're doing a program and enjoying a meal eventually, but not for the hour that I'm doing this.
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What can our Kentucky Highway 44 that's right. Leave the thumbs out on I'm okay. That's right. Oh, but then I can't have no opposing bums or for anyway, the, uh, the, the, uh, the situation here. And I know a lot of times you people have come down and I've created getting a hotel room and sometimes iffy. So again, uh, you might want to call now if you're late, but if you were, if you're within reasonable driving distance, get down this way. Um, as everybody knows, we have, uh, we've been working on book three, getting it printed for the
for the republic series and that is ready to go uh... fact that the woman who's doing the printing using the hogan's heroes version of the uh... text is actually enjoying the work that she's doing she's been having a great time with that so we're going to make sure the book three and probably book four is available to her uh... she actually feels like a book plan again like she's actually you're operating a printing shop yeah which is good so uh... for anybody who's actually gotten copies of battle for the republic the winter war and others you know there's many many out there now
If you want to call in when you get a chance, let people know, hey, what do you think of the text? That's an option. But also, we are preparing to ship out book three. That's going to be probably in the next couple weeks. I still have a little bit of artwork, and I'm trying to complete the artwork in a way that we did behind the wire, so that it's actually, we're going to be doing most of it. I'll be doing it myself.
That was one of the biggest problems is doing three different projects simultaneously. The good thing is I had a typist, I had a proofreader, and then I had another proofreader. We had our own little production facility inside the prison. And you had your, um, a plethora of pictures. Oh yes, you had a whole band of artists that worked day and night, and some of the artwork is like nothing that anybody has in the Patriot effort right now. We're trying to get that into poster work and into calendars because it's, the guys are actually finishing up some of the work behind the wire, and we'll be coming out very soon.
And when they come out, we're going to have you more artwork available. It'll be integrated with the book series. So it's all really an ongoing project. Of course, as we know, we can't even have firearms pictures in prison, right? So we had to cut and paste and hide all of the art reference war books that I did by putting them in between other things and in between all your religious work and stuff. So we joke about it being a little Hogan's Heroes operation because everybody has their tasks.
Nobody, not everybody was in the same building, which is another problem. So you had to smuggle the stuff across to the other person, get it to them. They did the proofreading and the guys all loved to do their work because it was a great way to eat up the time. And so when we were doing the first books...
They actually were chomping at the bit every day because now what happened is this. The proofreaders got so into the storyline that they forgot they were proofreaders. Well, that's it. They were more worried about reading the book than they were about actually. And then they realized, I said, wait a minute, you've got to finish it. I've got to get this, you know, oh, that's right. So what happened is the guys, you know, we give them 125 pages at a time to proofread.
And what would happen is the guys would start reading it and they forget about page 100. They'd realize, oh wait a minute, I'm supposed to be going through and checking for spelling and you know, punctuation and stuff. And you can tell. Yeah, and you can tell. It was fun because one of the things that you have a real problem with when you're behind a wire is nothing is available. Everybody does takes for granted. You got a bag full of pens here. We got paper. We got all this other cool stuff, right? Well, you don't realize what a big pen is worth, okay, when you can't get one.
and there's a whole underworld market for everything that you need extra of in the prison system behind the wire. Everything from pens to, oh, I've got a nice pen. Click, click, click, hear that? Click, click, click, click. Well, that's where, oh, it's a nice pen. It's actually one that the system uses. So there is whole markets for pilfered pens or for artwork, art, equipment, things of that nature.
The other thing is people take for granted typewriter ribbons. Well, we can get typewriter ribbons re-inked, but the problem with getting typewriter ribbons re-inked is you've got to get them over to where they need to be re-inked, and there's a whole process that takes about a week just to get a typewriter ribbon done. So one of the things that some people noticed when they were seeing the copies that came outside, because I sent copies of Battle for the Republic and also the Dagger Wars series out.
is that they were noticing that it was like it was fading. Well, it's because, yeah, the ink's running out of the ribbon. You have to use it so many times over, and you really don't want to give it up when you're on a swing and you're working on something. So the typist, we eventually financed buying him another one, a black market, a re-inkable ribbon, a second one, so we could actually get a flow going. We knew what the cycle was for the number of pages he was doing. And everything was bits and pieces. All the artwork that you see is original artwork, pretty much. Most people don't realize that.
because it looks so neat. Well, it's because I was a draftsman back in the day, guys.
We can't use that. That's military. That's copyrighted. And it's like, no, it's all stuff that was done. In fact, here's the thing. Most of the artwork, when you see the drawings and the posters, one of the most interesting things is everybody goes, man, that's phenomenal shading, because shading is what makes the drawing as the artist will tell you. Well, it was all done with that big pen right there, that type of pen. That's the quality of the work that was being done. Yeah, and it's something I can't do. And you look at it, you go, you did it with a big pen and a number two pencil. The only thing that changed is eventually
for a short time we were able to access some art supplies. We could buy art supplies in the system. But what happened is we could only buy so much and then all of a sudden they started cutting off right away. As quick as we got it, they started restricting it. So when I was smart, I figured, okay, we got this one shot. So I spent an outrageous amount of money as $8.
People don't realize this. That's a month's wages. I spent $8 and purchased two boxes of art pens of these actually really nice Faber Castell art pens. And everybody goes, why do you buy so many? I said, because we're probably not going to get them again. And sure enough, even as I said it, the next month they disapproved all the stuff that they just approved.
So we had this one lump of stuff that came in and of course now we couldn't use it for anything else. The artist was the only person we get. You know, guys like to write nice letters to their girls and so you rent out the pen. Oh no, we couldn't rent the pens anymore. We had to save those for the artist. But all the work that you see, people don't realize the amount of effort that went into or that goes into just doing a single page like that. So it was a lot of fun in that respect because it gave us something to do.
It kept everybody busy and ate up everybody's time so that you really weren't sitting there twiddling your thumbs and trying to figure out, gee, what do I do with the rest of the day? Each person who did their job wanted to do the job. So for instance, the typist bought a typewriter purely because he was doing the type work typing for the book series.
He didn't really need it for anything else. It was just that, well, okay, here's what we'll do. I'll trade you like some goodies, some food goods or whatever for your services. And he didn't really care about that. I just said, no, as long as you're doing this, there's a whole market. He didn't understand the underground system inside the, behind the wire, how it works. So it kept everybody happy. We all had everything going well. And then they moved me, all those buggers. That created a problem. Well, again, you had more people working for you than they had. Actually we did.
that became a problem for them because you were organized, you had people working with you, and went out in numbers to guard. What was funny is, and that gets to another point, is one of the other sidebars that we did while we were behind the wire was sovereignty classes. Now what we did is, for the longest time, especially in the higher levels, everybody recalls, I was in level four, okay, which, you know, this isolation.
and uh... it's where you have all the guys who are spending life plus or two lives are some cases one case eleven life sentences and uh... what's interesting is these guys really get focused when they realize they don't have anywhere to go so they were really getting into law in fact is where you find the most astute focused individuals in the prison system we start explain the whole process of the sovereignty issue
And when we did, lo and behold guys, we started having all the people, I knew all the authors of all the books from around the country. Well we had them shipping them in right from the author and the guys were shipping as many as they could and they came straight to my bed. Now, we immediately took them and knowing that as we know the system and how it works, as soon as we get the text, I would hand the text off to somebody else and would not keep it with me. And each person had a different book in a different cell or a different block. Which of course is, you know, dead.
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Listen to George Gordon live taking your calls every Sunday night 6 p.m. right here on We The People Radio Network. We are back. This is the Intel Report Live. The cool thing is we are live down in Kentucky right now just down the road from Nob Creek on 44th to Shoney's. And for those of you who are listening, if you're within about a couple hours driving time, you still got plenty of time to make it down here tomorrow, of course.
If you do, there is plenty of parking out in the fields. And if you want to camp, if you've got your web gear and your load bearing equipment squared away, guys, here's a chance to test it. Grab the backpack, run and jump to the car, head over to Knob Creek, go park in the fields here. There's lots of good people showing up. They're going to be participating in the camp out. Poker Face is over there right now, and Poker Face will be playing tomorrow on the range. And they also play over in the encampment. You get a chance to meet the guys firsthand. We need to support the band.
These guys have been with us for a long time and they've stayed the chorus when other people don't even realize these guys have grown up with a Patriot effort, come up into it. And when you listen to them play, you're listening to what becomes skilled masters. That's the only way to describe it. If you listen to the guitar work from Paul and the crew, the band itself has simply matured like good wine. It's the only way to describe it. They've done an excellent job of staying on chorus. They've got enough music for two albums right now.
They just got to take the time to get the first one out and then very quickly they'll have the second one ready to go. So this is looking very good and that's the music you hear when we come back off the breaks is for from Poker Face. So you get a chance to take the time to enjoy the music by getting hold of their CDs go to www.pokerface.com. That's www.pokerface.com. Now real quick, I'm going to finish up our story of what was going on behind the wire with the sovereignty classes.
We broke up into six-man teams and everybody had a specific subject in book. Now, if we only had one book, we broke it up into pages and actually each group got a chance to study a certain number of pages and then they all traded. And then we all traded. Now meanwhile, there's a whole black market for photocopying.
So meanwhile, two or three or four pages at a time are being smuggled in, and we don't want to know where they were put to smuggle them in, to where the copy machines were. And as we know, we get a few copies off of each of so many pages and then back out to where it belongs. We had almost 200 people that were in these classes by the time we had everything going at high gear. And these were from three different compounds, actually three different blocks, three different buildings.
and uh... share the information somebody got a little overzealous and they decided to start investigating all of cool stuff that was coming in didn't bother me but they were then looking for all of the books and text that were in there and there were by that time dozens and dozens uh... the good thing is once a copy inside as we know in the prison system of the prisoners usually it's like a ghost it just keeps being reproduced forever so later when i travel to different facilities i would see recopies of the books that we brought in from two or three other facilities
down the road somewhere else where they went all the way down the state, went all the way across the state, and came all the way back up to us. So the work there went very well. Meanwhile, of course, I was writing the two series, the two book series. One was the Dagger Wars, which is 12 books total. The other is Battle for the Republic, which is we're up to book four. I'm up to book four. We're trying to finish up book four within, say, the next month and a half, and that is going to be
an ongoing project, not just book four, but the whole of the Battle for the Republic series until if I can, I will have 12 books completed in that series. And the purpose behind it is so that we again are able to educate everybody. It meshes with many of the other texts that are out there. I don't want to ruin it for anyone because when you read it, I need to have you read it first because there are some questions we ask when you get a chance to read the text. And that's something that we're going to work on. So there's a little, there's a little
classroom quiz after the class. There's a test. The books themselves are available, so we'll put the information on that. Go to our website at www.pbn.4mg.com. That's www.pbn.4mg.com or libertytreeradio.4mg.com. Either way, you can connect with our site and find out more about all those cool things. We have a caller.
Rob in Texas. I'll tell you what, we're going to jump into our caller. Rob in Texas. Rob, come on in. Hey Mark, how are y'all doing? I'm in VU. My, uh, Nancy. Um, one thing I want to mention, uh, I sort of hit on the fifth move the other night. Uh, I assume after the fun begins, uh, we will still be using our computers for various things. I was, uh, getting ready to toss version of Windows Office 97. And what I discovered was that
the 2000 version and up, everything is connected to the internet with that for a lot of the functions to use. And I started doing a little investigating. Several websites have nothing but the old legacy software. And I would really encourage people to get, you know, you can pick off eBay or, you know, this website, I think it's called, or something like that. Right. Database programs and, you know, five bucks.
and like the old ribbon printers because those ribbons you can throw a little WD-40 on there and use those things longer than the laser printer is going to. That's just what I wanted to bring up. As a matter of fact, we don't throw anything away like that as Nancy can attest to. That is true. There's any of the old software, if you've got any of the old original windows, the 3.0, 3.1,
I don't care what the format is, number one, remember they're already experiencing this, and we talked about this on the air about a month ago. If you go to any of the research or engineering companies right now, they're terrified of the idea that the software systems are changing, and they just discovered that even information is only 10 years old because they didn't save the
hardware that the software was used to print the original program on, they're finding that when they plug, for instance, precision data machinery into the new software and try to transfer the data, then all the measurements are wrong.
that they're losing whole, we're right now on the edge of losing whole elements of our engineering base. And they all said, oh, with a new system, we're going to cure all this. But just the reverse is happening. They just did, they had this problem with CAD machinery, in fact, in Texas, where you are right now, where they were using an older system, which wasn't that old, it was 1993.
and they went to all of this new, the newer technology, plugged the software in, integrated their programming for all of their machinery, and everything was off. In the process of just transferring and storing the data and having to clean up the software and the hard drives, during the cleaning up process, when they were re-bunching everything, they actually lost all elements of the program, but it was like, here's the thing, it wasn't all at once.
It was like if you just sit there with your finger on the wall and kept scratching and it's a half inch piece of drywall, if you just keep rubbing long enough you will rub through it. It just takes a long time and when problem is over 10 years they did it. They actually wore a hole through the program is what they did. Well they're seeing that. Think about that with the library. It's saving two and two computer files.
I believe that's going to be the downfall. Everybody wonders how civilizations collapse, something that several science fiction authors have addressed. They've talked about this over the years, that it doesn't take a nuclear device, it could be 100,000 ants eating away or nibbling away at everything and the foundations collapse simply because there aren't any foundations left. Whole elements are destroyed or carried away.
And one of the advantages to a degree is because we're committing to simpler technology, and like you said, in a crisis situation, most of the newer wave stuff is not going to be up and online. We're going to have to resort, A, either to older systems, which I think is still the best choice anyway, simply because kids keep it simple stupid, and how much do we do with computers that we really, really need to do every day? And for communications, I mean, it's like the fun stuff we're doing right now with our internet radio.
uh... and internet television which is where we've really made a major leap forward with regard independent broadcasting like youtube a lot of what we're going to be using computers for would be for instance data streaming for uh... encryption for signal intelligence uh... and when you do that you don't need a right because of the nature of radio transmitters
and because of the unreliability on the battlefield with regard to signal communications you're going to want to go to slower older modems to transmit you're not going to want to use necessarily ultra-fast modems because they will not necessarily transmit clean with a short burst. If you have any gap in transmission you're going to have a significant loss in data. The old systems, if you recall, one of the advantages of the old modems is they did what was basically a triple broadcast.
We're going to go to break here. Think about it. It would broadcast, then reset and reset, and then your onboard system would discriminate between the three transmissions to figure out the signal. Anyway, stay right there, Rob. Thank you very much. You're welcome, Rob. Okay, bye-bye. We'll be back in a minute. My name's Don Wiskin, and for over seven years I've been telling people about CardiBite. Here's Dr. John Mattson, a naturopathic doctor, and his views on CardiBite.
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And ladies and gentlemen, we are back. This is the Intel report with we the people radio network and that's poker face. www.pokerface.com and we have Ron from Arkansas. Ron jump in there please. I thought you're having a better time than I am. Uh oh, what's happening to your end? I'm just working. Somebody mentioned the concept of office software problems.
And I'm like, why waste your time or your money on Micro Squish Office when there's something that's just as good and freely available called OpenOffice.org. There we go. OpenOffice.org. It's available under the GPL with a new public license. And it is compatible with the latest version of Office, to what it's worth. And oddly enough,
Microsquish decided to make their stuff compatible with OpenOffice. Interesting. So they're looking at the competitor and thinking it's best to be able to access him rather than try to shut him out. Well, you know, they're trying to do that problem with Apple. You know, trying to be, you know, only Apple. So, you know, this is... Well, on the subject of Apple, it's like, yeah, their proprietary is all get out, their expensive is all get out.
Because they have one thing going for them that none of the others have. It bleepity bleepin' works. Yes. Yes. One of the things, you know, it's a good point. Apple systems are extremely user friendly, very reliable. Actually, Nancy knows we've got, I don't know how many apples in reserve. I guess I pointed out this way. Does everybody remember when Y2K was in preparation for it?
And Y2K was a real threat, but it was a threat being generated from the government end. Okay, if we weren't ready for it, it would have been the switch would be hit, which is what I argued all the while this was happening. And it doesn't mean that Y2K the problem didn't exist, because absolutely it did. University of Michigan, before anybody knew what Y2K was, was scrambling to figure out how to save their system, but they weren't going to tell anybody, because think about it, if you're the only people with a computer that works, what's your computer worth?
And that's exactly, I worked at the U of M at the time, trust me, they spent $700 million of their own smack-olas without federal dollars to try and, I mean, it was in the millions, it was an outrageous amount, and they already knew this thing was coming, but they did come up with, everybody came up with their own solution in different ways, setting back the clocks, setting up a live program just to loop everything, there were a number of different solutions. But if you remember with all those pictures showing all the preparatory desks and everything where they had these command centers, you'll notice they had all these IBM stuff in the middle.
But off to the right, at every workstation, no matter if it was Department of Defense or if it was the U of M or if it was whoever, there was an Apple Mac system. The fit will be called the bowling ball case. Okay, sitting off to the side, ready to use, that didn't require any modifications at all. Back in all those photographs where you saw these command posts and all these centers and all this massive money being spent,
Over here on the right, in the same location, so everybody was prompted the same way, there was an old Apple system sitting right there that was not affected by that at all. Right. And we watched Metro Airport. Yeah. They made three changeovers in their computer systems during that time frame. They were down for two hours. That's the third time through changing the system. It finally took.
That's the most important thing and they work it actually they're very user friendly, which is the one thing you it depends where you get them now example at the you about two semi loads for two hundred and sixty three dollars two solid semi trailers full and we distributed those all through the state of price was right couldn't pass it on and So we have apples we have IBM's we have compacts we have a little bit everything running in the system all the older equipment But redundant by the hundreds. I mean we don't count them and or thousands depending where they are
and the older systems will work. For what little we have to do, they'll work just fine. And for data retrieval, from say disk storage and such, that's not going to be a problem. Sounds like a whole lot of fun to me. What do you think? You're going to run out of air sometime? Oh yes, no problem. I'll tell you what. Go to our website. The phone number is right there. Yeah, if you go to our website, libertytreeradio.4mg.com.
And our email, if you want to hear our email, it's www.libertyatprovide.net. Okay. Is that good? That's correct. And just say, and just... No. No, www. That sounds... Thank you very much, Mark. But don't tell right now. We're not there. We're in Kentucky. That's the ground for me. Oh, Godot. God bless. Bye bye.
Yeah, that is a good point. Another thing that most people, how many people remember Wang computers? Now actually, a couple of the people that are in the Patriot effort of Michigan are the engineers that built Wang that actually created the systems. One thing about Wang computers is that they were purchased and chosen by the Department of Defense because they had onboard standard triple encryption.
and they were specifically designed to be totally freestanding from anything else on the planet. Guess who got most of the Wang systems that existed with the EPA close someplace else? We did and then there was the, let's see, Channel Motor's picked up the rest of them. That's right, and what's funny about that is that we walked in and let's put it this way, this is an idea of how efficient the system is. The EPA and the elements that were attached to it through other federal agencies that were there
Didn't scrub the system, didn't clear the hard drives, didn't clean anything up. They just walked in with somebody, pick them up off the desk, walk them off of the truck, and drive away with them. Everything up to a certain date, like the moment they were unplugged, was part of their database and everything that they integrated to. An example of, again, one of the sad things for the bad guys is they didn't realize, how can we know these things? It's because you gave them to us. Literally, U of M was just as bad, by the way. One of the interesting things.
Tell them about the one that we found the file, the letter from the judge near Paris. Oh yes, well we had a cross. And one of the computers said they forgot to scrub. Yes, the biggest problem is that in from the law library we had both the justices from the state Michigan state courts and we had correspondence and all of their emails going back and forth. Not nice things they said in some cases.
But the cool thing is that we actually access it completely clean. They didn't understand the concept of delete or take the hard drive out and do something with it. They just left everything on board. And there was no encoding at all. There was no... After we did talk about a little more, eventually the other side of the U of M at least started, oh my goodness, we have to do something about these hard drives. So they said yes. They pulled them out, they put them in a box. Then they took them over to property sales and sold them anyway.
They took them out of the machine, put them in a box, took them all over, didn't do anything with them. We just put them back in the machines and then we got them for a dollar a piece because after all we didn't get the whole system. We were buying the machine for a dollar. We were buying the hard drive for a dollar. Then we put them back in the computer and away you go. So that gives you an idea of how efficient the system can be and how secure they are. They're not.
So, and again, because of this, all the data, you know, addresses, phone numbers, home numbers, you know, family emails, all this stuff from all these agencies, all the alphabet soup agencies you can imagine, okay? Perfect, it's a resource. Right, all these people. But when they thought that they were secure, they obviously didn't understand who was getting rid of their equipment. So a lot of the people who were getting rid of their equipment were...
I can't stress enough as we've talked about this many times is that never get rid of your older systems. Guys, does it really take up that much space in your closet? I mean, to walk it over? This is actually how we got a lot of good stuff from the University of Michigan. They get cutting edge two years back. Okay, they get the stuff what you see right now they already had two years ago. And so if you'll notice in some of the videotapes and stuff that we've done, a lot of stuff is sitting on our shelves in the background.
says prototype or actually has stuff that you never even saw on the computer that you got this year say from two years ago. And it's interesting because they would market it and they'd give it to the students in the university and they'd check to see how it worked. And if they liked it, oh maybe we don't need to give them this much. Let's take that one back. Let's give them just that much. Maybe half of it. There we go. Half is enough.
And so we would actually have a system sitting there that was more sophisticated than what was the standard market model, and we'd pay a dollar apiece for them when they were being disposed of. So your tax dollars at work and the Patriot effort got a plus plus out of the deal in the process. And we've had a lot of good things.
A whole lot of good things. Always pay attention. Go to your college campuses to check out property disposal. Remember that a good portion of that came from federal funding, came from the state funds. It all goes to them. They don't care. Next year they've got to get another bucket of money going. So they'll grab everything, round it up, throw it off the back door. They want to teach the students on the newest things. They're going to run into that in the real world, which generally does not happen. Which most everybody's usually poor or still. Uh oh. We're at the top of the hour already. Oh no.
Uh oh. Well, I'll tell you what, we might still be doing a 8 o'clock show.
Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, boy, the hour went fast. We're down here in Kentucky. Come on down to Knob Creek. You gotta see what's going on down here. Be down here tomorrow and Sunday. Remember, they don't want to carry this stuff away. Sunday's a good time to be up here at Knob Creek to help the vendors carry this stuff away before they take it home. Yep, they don't like to do that. As always, God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail. The Empire is on the run. We're on the march.
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