October 11, 2007
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Mark Koernke discussed the upcoming Knob Creek Gun Show (October 12-14) featuring machine gun shoots, military weapons demonstrations, and a speaking engagement at a Shoney's restaurant in Shepherdsville, Kentucky. He covered historical military topics including Gatling guns, Russian aircraft in Korea, and Soviet pilots flying MiG fighters during the Korean War. Koernke highlighted a Ron Paul rally at the University of Michigan that drew 2,000-2,500 attendees and discussed tribal sovereignty issues related to child protective services in Oklahoma. He addressed concerns about UN treaties affecting national parks and Indian lands, criticized NRA leadership for UN involvement, and commented on a school shooting incident in Cleveland, Ohio.
- knob creek gun show
- machine guns
- gatling guns
- korean war
- russian pilots
- mig fighters
- ron paul
- university of michigan
- tribal sovereignty
- child protective services
- national parks
- rio treaty
- nafta
- nra
- preparedness
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free.
and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. Invist the land of the free and home of the brave. You vie permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent.
Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled.
You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn.
and your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave?
O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, pray to God to keep the torch of freedom bright. As Iowoki vanished in the midst for whence he came, his words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame.
For even now his tyrants trampled each God-given right. We only watched him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, dill the land of the free?
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So make sure everything's tightened up, make sure everything's squared away and you can tune into D25 and listen to W-T-P-R-N dot com. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and it's going to be like you're right here in the room with us. Today is, you should say happy birthday to Edward, as Edward's birthday is today, for the Knobbe Creek, the Knobbe Creek machine gun shoot, gun show, and all extravaganza is taking place the 12th, the 13th, and the 14th. The guys are already down there, everybody's already setting up.
If you get a chance, you need to go down to people if you're within reasonable driving distance or even if it takes a little while to get there. You can drive down. There's a walk through. They've got a large amount of parking. There's campgrounds there. Take your tent, throw your equipment in place in the back of the truck or in the back of the van. Get down there, get a camping space, set up, go to the show, go back, relax the camping space. Do go back to the show, watch the machine gun shoot itself, watch the night fire.
and get on with the rest of the exciting things that need to be done. There's a lot of work that can be taken care of there. So good deals usually. I just got an email. There are, there is, now we don't know how long this is going to last and we don't know what the price is going to be. One dealer has three pallet 39 there. It's only one that we know of, but there is some 30 rush ammo. There may be some other stuff showing up.
The guy has three pallets. That's nothing like what we used to see, which would be pallet after pallet after pallet after pallet, but it's still a good chunk. And there are people accessing what's out there and pulling it to the show. So they do have it by the case.
So if you want to buy 30 Russian, if it's there, that might already... The problem is this, when the dealers trade, they may be sucking it all up before everybody else gets a chance to, and it's just going home with them. So you want to get there early if you can. There's always all kinds of other equipment, knickknacks, magazines, weapons parts, you name it, you're going to find it at the Knob Creek Gun Show. And there's also the three-gun shoot.
uh... you get a chance to watch that and see how uh... that goes to get a chance to observe people uh... working with shotgun rifle and pistol and the twelve the thirteenth of the fourteenth uh... we're speaking down there uh... friday uh... six p m and i guess we should announce it because it's only a day away uh... this is the little there's not that much space but uh... it will be speaking down there it's uh... sit down uh...
at one of the Shoney's, the Shoney restaurants there locally. That's one of the speaking engagements. I will be talking with other people and other activities. But this is a sit-down arrangement at the Shoney's restaurant. And just to be safe, uh-oh, well, I had it right here, but who knows where the heck it went. Well, kick me in the butt there. Okay, here we go. I think we can find it. Let's see. Shoney's restaurant, 500 Highway 44 East in Shepherdsville, Kentucky, of course.
October 12, 6 p.m. It's one and a half blocks west of I-65 on Highway 44. In other words, you turn right, you get off the expressway, if you're coming from the north, when you turn to go west on 44, it's one and a half blocks from I-65 on the way up to the creek. So you can't miss it. It's on the north side of the highway. It's the Showe's Restaurant. They have, by the way, just something that was noted by the host.
They've got a 1099 all-you-can-eat fish buffet that night, so if everybody likes fish, there's a chance to eat as much as you want. I don't know what's on the fish buffet, but it could be anything. That'll be tomorrow night. What we're hoping to do, cross our fingers, is pull the broadcast live from there. We'll work out the logistics and everything plugged in, and I'll be giving down a ring during the day here so that he's able to connect, and I think it'll sound pretty good for the time we're done.
We hope to do, what we'll do if we can, is some question and answers from the audience, from the people that are there, and make this very much an interactive program. It will be starting at 6 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, so that will be our second hour. You never know though, Don. You see, we've probably set up before that, and we're going to be doing the 5 o'clock show. The 5 o'clock program, forgive us, and we're this is not entertainment, but the idea is the 5 o'clock program, the 5 o'clock window, we'll try to be doing that live too.
And I've got everything here in the bag. Everything is set to go and already marked and numbered. So all we got to do is plug into a line. And the next thing about restaurants like that, they usually have phones you can use. So I think it would be a... Training exercise, if you've never stood in there and listened to it before, it can be a bit unnerving. So if you've got it and you know where I'm going... Mark, if you've got it in your... Okay, I just wanted to sneak that in.
I hit the switch at the same time. You know this is live radio by the way. We've been doing so much you haven't run, run, running all day. Of course we're going to be run, run, running for the next 72 hours. But it's true that when you get down there, you can't describe it properly. In fact even videos don't do it justice. You have ever been down to Knob Creek, you know what we mean? You get to find out what firepower is all about and you get to see what weapons can do, what weapons do what.
You also, like I said, I suggest if all of you are interested in certain weapons systems and understanding how they work. There's going to be guys down there with a mag 58. There's a lot of mag 58s in service people. So you'd be a good idea to take a look and watch to see what's done to bring it up to battery, bring it into service, get it to work. And if there's any malfunctions, what immediate action takes place. It's a good lesson without you having to be the one up there in front pulling the trigger. Okay.
the browning M250 caliber is going to be there in force. Oh yeah. The M60, the hog, she's going to be there. You're going to find in all variants, A1s, A2s, A3s. You're going to see browning, 1919, A6s, 4MG42. You're going to see mats and machine guns. You're going to see Gatling guns. You want to crank it, or as fast as you want to crank it, that's how she works. So the cool thing is that, and remembering, by the way, Gatling guns were made
up to and including modern calibers. Most people don't realize this but the standard Gatling guns, until we had the M250 caliber in service, the standard heavy machine gun or considered to be the heavy machine gun for the United States military, World War I, was the Gatling gun, caliber 30-06 in the 1903 cartridge. And it's interesting that a lot of those, because we didn't throw them out, between World War I and World War II,
a lot of the National Guard and Reserve units and militia units here in the states during World War II were issued out the Gatling guns and all of these other weapons, 30-40 Craig's, none of that was thrown away. If it wasn't used or wasn't sold between the war, over the counter, because they used to sell this stuff, just, you want one here, go ahead, buy one, the government didn't care.
uh... only when the inner lieutenant control freak showed up the and start to be anti-american did you see them could be concerned about us having these weapons or up until nineteen forty one and this is uh... pro harbor dot bomb all my goodness you all need guns again yes sir through so it looked like they're trying to get within the fire uh... everybody needed help protect the ring knockers of course then they promoted every kind of fire you can think of including the ones who are anti-gun who also realize that gia
The other side might not like the shysters that are in power, you know, depending on which ones they were. They better get everybody to protect them. So the Gatling guns showed up. The many factories had militia formations organized. Usually they were issued 30-40 Craig's. In some cases they even had trapdoor spring fields out there mixed with 30-40 Craig's and some 1917 Enfields in 30 out of 6.
Any surplus or military ammunition that was available was issued out and doled out sparingly because it had to be distributed amongst the entire industrial production net across the country for a factory defense. So that's a little part of the story they don't like to talk about. And yes, the term militia is used constantly. The other one is state defense.
forces which are nothing more than another word for militia three words for one yeah it was more overly complicated to be stupid now basically militia at that that that simple an interesting thing about it though is that uh... you with the with the uh... cat the gallon guns be they in forty five seventy fifty seventy in the black powder cartridges thirty forty craig very common actually there is a gentleman here in michigan some of our friends have several of their guns so we have these on standby
uh... in thirty forty craig and forty five seventy but also a couple that he built in thirty out six back in the uh... seventies and uh... these weapons of function flawlessly but they're reproductions of the originals are made out of modern steel i think they're going to wear out real soon uh... not the concept of the gallon gun it was actually perceived that it would be used just like an artillery piece
And so all of the text and manuals, if you get a chance, most people don't do the research on this, reverse slope fire. And this can also be done with any .50 caliber and it can be done with .50 caliber rifles. You can actually sit on a reverse slope, calculate the taper and the altitude, and drop a round in, golf balling it in, you might say. But if you know what you're doing with a spotter slash forward observer, you could be dumping rounds in just like you would with an artillery piece, like a two-pounder, a four-pounder, or a six-pounder.
And these had devastating results. I want everybody to think about this, the old 45-70 guys. How big was that ball that was firing? Ouch. I wouldn't want that tumbling in from a half mile out. Nope. Very embarrassing when it hits. It hurts a lot. Yeah, even subsonic. Yeah, it doesn't have to be supersonic when it weighs 500 plus grains. It just hitching goes ouch. OK. Well, we're at the break. This is the Intel report covering a lot of subjects we will be back in about three minutes here on We the People Radio Network.
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We should have mentioned that. Bring your poncho or your reindeer, bring your hat, and here's another little warning. If you got a two wheel cart, if you have a little kitty wagon that you pull for supplies, take it, because you never know what you're going to find it. If somebody's making a deal on you're going to go, oh, I got to have a bunch of this. Yep. It was years ago when you walked in and you people saw an ammunition and they didn't want to carry it home. So then you got some better deals than you would have Friday and Saturday. Right. You know, you guys make, you know, the latest. I think you put.
He also bought a hundred Gätling guns. And you know you guys, if you ever go to his manufacturer and the date, you know, neat little spoons and it said Grouloff on them, Mark. The Grouloff guns, that bugger grappling had stolen from the Russians. Yeah, much like the... Repair patches, as we now know the story from here in the United States, things that our friends told us about years ago, that everybody said, oh, that's crazy happening. And lo and behold, all these men that I heard for years telling me about what exactly was going on in the system, it ought to be absolutely
They were telling us the truth. They were first-hand witnesses. Shame on a lot of you people who had uncles or grandpas. And what you did is just, oh, yeah, okay, grandpa, yeah, sure. That's not what they told me in the history book. It turns out, you know, there's a good example right there, the B-29, the knockoff B-29 that the Russians made. Another little thing about that, think about this. They even did it right in your face on the History Channel. They talk about that plane's construction.
And then they jokingly tongue-in-cheat go, oh, but the Russians couldn't have gotten off the ground were it not for the fact that they were buying the surplus tires from the United States and putting them on their bombers. You realize what that means? Think about this, guys. If a plane does not have tires, it does not roll down the runway. The Russians did not have the capability, the Communists, which we were facing off at the beginning of a Cold War.
did not have the capacity to produce the tire for this copy of the B-29. Purchasing agents inside the United States, oh I wonder where some of them are from, were buying these tires and selling them directly to the Russians to equip their aircraft so they could roll out of the factory. Do you want to challenge me on that? You better go watch that program again and pay attention to what they said. They laughed about it. There's another one like that by the way too.
uh... for years i had men who were in korea i'm in fact one gentleman just passed away a little bit ago and all of them said the same thing there were single communications people who are in radio posts uh... they were involved in combat operations and they would listen to the russians flying the make fighters all of these ultra liberals over here on the side of the water said all that's crazy
That's just the only Americans were doing it. I was like, okay, now wait a minute. Now these are men who were there firsthand. And I had this one teacher, the instructor, and I did this as part of a paper that I did for a class, actually.
Oh, he had to make all kinds of noise. Of course, he was Soviet. He was a socialist, is the problem. And the party line was to make sure that everybody kept hearing the same repetition. Well, lo and behold, what do we have in all these new, oh, look at this expose. Lo and behold, Discover Channel and History Channel have discovered that the Russians, and they're interviewing the Russian pilots who were laughing about how they were flying the MiGs in Megali, and how they were, what they were to do, and how they were doing.
to operate and how they of course continued to speak Russian even though they were supposed to avoid doing that. Well, the very stories, and they weren't stories, they were factual first-hand accounts, are men who were in service on the front line being killed in that war, honest and absolutely forthright in what they had witnessed, and Americans believed our enemies
you have an uncle or grandpa or a dad that you may have insulted by saying well i went to college he told me that that was all just a fantasy except that now twenty years later here it is uh... we are all but it was there would be a point to make the fifty-two with their craft and they were flying in the usually taking the shape of like this you come at them you know blah blah blah blah blah and the point is that either verifying and it's like they're rubbing their their weenies and in all these men's faces
course some of them are dead so they can kind of rub and you know pee on their grave excuse me urinate on their grave the point is that we told you so and it's like so many parts of history it's like oh after the fact oh look what we discovered now this gets into the whole reason to bring this up is because this this is a foundation for all of what we've been talking about for years and you're seeing another variation on this with Ron Paul a lot of you all
all of you out there know who Ron Paul is if you're listening to this program, because you know we've said Ron Paul for president a million times and we're going to continue to do it. My point is this. I didn't see Ron Paul's face on the ABC News and I didn't hear so and so talk about Ron Paul, so I don't think he exists. You guys are just crazy. Do you see the point? You realize how, now that really bothers you when you see that, doesn't it? Now I'm going to ask you, how do you think your grandpa or your uncle or your dad felt?
when they were telling you this, knowing it was the truth, and you were insulting them by accepting a stranger's word over your blood relation. Well, you know, let's talk, I told you, the last time B-29s were fielded in a daylight raid was into, for maybe, three or four, because again, the Russians would not, the Russians could not risk the aircraft because they wanted to see, of course, how their aircraft would perform against ours. And these secondary theater operations like this were optimal
for creating the perfect condition for test and evaluation, which is what they were doing. And the problem is this. Okay, and this is where we get into the whole glitch that people seem to have forgotten, is under the United Nations treaties, Russian military officer will always be in charge of all operations with the United Nations. That historically been the case, there was only one variation, he was an ethnic Russian.
Okay, in other words, there was one ethnic Russian who was with one of the Warsaw Pact nations otherwise and he was was was controlled by the KGB or was KGB So what difference did it make? But he was an ethnic Russian who was running for a very short period time and he was only there for three years The rest absolutely all central Russians now that should kind of tell you something
If the Russians were in charge, who passed you? Where do you think the orders went once they were passed on to the Russians about what the U.N. forces were going to do in Korea? They went in a multiple direction. Oh yeah, they got right into the system and went right to Moscow and then went right to the combat troops that we were facing. And that your sons, your uncles, and your dads were being shot by.
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It is Thursday tomorrow, Knob Creek opens to the public. There's people down there right now, by the way, and there's people at the encampment. So you probably can make some deals with some people. If you get down there even tonight, you're close. You go to the encampment, and hey, by the way, what you got? Oh, I got some stuff in the truck. That's how it works. So you find all kinds of cool things laying around or things that people bring in. But get to Knob Creek. It starts tomorrow.
Saturday of course is the big night shoot in the evening but there's firing that goes on all through the day. You'll have little rattle battles that take place and it gives you a chance to go check out the shoot, then go back over to the gun show, then check out the walk and go over to the shoot, go check the three gun shoot out while it's taking place on Saturday. An excellent opportunity. Take the time, take the children. There's everybody a chance to really scope this out and yes you can bring your wife along. Everybody does, a lot of people do. In fact the whole family goes.
bring sure you're flooded. Yes, sure you bring your flood. And again, there's a wide range of weapons there that you get a chance to see. Really cool. Check out the flamethrowers. They should be there. And by the way, flamethrowers do not require any paperwork. Everybody goes, well, flamethrowers are a wheat burner. That's what they're basically considered. And you've got to remember, there's a lot of commercial wheat burners out there.
There are a lot of military surplus ones too and they work really well. And they work just like they did during the war, in one war or another. So there are options. Apparently, now I don't know, I haven't checked up on this, but they're Russians. See, the Russians are very much, they very much believe in the flamethrower technology. And they have a wide range of in-service flamethrowers. Now, what models and how heavy they are? Oh, I've seen some of the plumbing on these guys I'm telling you. If you can make them heavy, the Russians make them heavy.
They are pretty impressive, but they're also very reliable. The Russians, that's one thing I will say, somebody wrote an excellent article here recently, why do people use Russian weapons? Well, sure. That's right, it's like the RPG-2 or the RPG-7. You know what, you pull the trigger, it's the most important thing and they work every time. AK-47, same way. RPK, same way. Okay, RPD, same thing. I'm sorry, Mark, but when you talk about action, you know, a fire basis, you described a particular action where there were
120 to 150 Vietnamese in the wire and he just ran out there and they couldn't get the flamethrower to work. The defender fire is typically your friend when you're having to deal with the bad guys and if there's lots of them and a handful of you, a siege technology as we know, it works both ways. They try to use it on you but of course flame weapons work to throw them back out into the front yard patting on their funny black uniforms when they try to figure out why it is that their hands are sticking to what they're trying to beat out.
Help me Frank, help me! I'll look all my leg, I got a retirement, look all my leg! That's exactly how they are. I gotta beat myself out too. You help me, you know, help me. Stop droppin'. Yeah, plane cars are your friend. They wanna burn, we'll make sure that they're sent to Ball and Maylock. It's interesting because you get a chance to see all this and a whole lot more. Really cool, take the time, go down to Knapp Creek, 12th, 13th and 14th. Other things, for our friends, for instance, Mike down in Texas, you should have a box in the front porch if I already should've been along there.
Let us know so that we know that you got what was sent your way. Those people have magazines, keep an eye on your boxes. Everything's in motion now, so actually has been. So most people I think would be pretty happy with what they've seen. They should be. They're as nice as they get. Also, heavy packages. Again, a warning, be prepared. These boxes are stuff solid. So the stuff that was sent, boots, clothing, and web gear, it's a lot of stuff. That's all I can say.
those who are waiting keep an eye out but be ready to move a chunk of stuff take a truck or make sure your trunk is empty when you go to pick the stuff up. We are also going to offer and I got to mention this we're going to make sure that we have the HK slash G3 magazine pouches available. Well people got the magazines well we finally made an arrangement on the mag pouches. I will find out what the final cost is but it's not going to be much it's going to be pennies.
And the idea behind this is that we can pretty well provide these for anybody who's got H-891s, FNFLs, or M1A rifles. So that's an option. Also, by the way guys, for everybody listening, thank you for your support. And I know everybody loves the video that was done by Mr. D, our cameraman, along with the editing work by Ethan and Ed. And if you go to our YouTube site, Fantastic Rally, that's
took place and the Diag at the University of Michigan is on our YouTube website. Now if you go to YouTube, Liberty Tree Radio, or if you go to LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com, that's Liberty Tree Radio, all one word, that's our website, 4mg.com. We have a video there of the speech that Rob and Paul gave and there ain't no doubt that there's a lot
In fact, a couple people have made the comment, oh, get the credits out of the way. We want to see the crowd. So we're probably going to do an addendum real quick. It'll take care of that this weekend. But we'll do a little addendum to show you the crowd shots. And now Nancy and myself stood halfway from the diodes into the diag. And we started counting. Now we did block counting, which we've done before. We've had to deal with crowds of people. And we stopped at the halfway mark.
At a thousand, about a half hour Ron Paul showed up and more people were showing up. The middle estimate, as I said, is about 2,000, but I would say 2,000 to 2,500 people because the area beyond us where we initially were standing when we were counting, we stopped at a thousand because we knew that was a halfway mark and in reality it was denser. We started from the back end where other people were thinned out a little bit.
but it was denser to the front, so actually the other half of the quadrant was probably more people anyway. But we had another three to 500 that showed up, and another cool thing for a lot of you people that are listening, everybody knows this, every third person standing there had gotten on their cell phone, and they were either holding the cell phone up so people could hear, somebody else, somewhere else, was listening to Ron Paul on a cell phone, or on multiple cell phones, because as we know, you have party calls.
The others were actually holding their cell phone up and using their camera and sending the image to somebody else even as it was happening. So guys, if you count 2,000 people and say one out of three or one out of four was running a phone, there was another, say, 700 to 1,000 impromptu listeners who were sitting somewhere else on campus who were listening to every word that Ron Paul spoke.
I'd say that's pretty darn good. So these guys that did the work and it was the right place, the right time, everything clicked. A very nice event. Iran came out at the perfect time and everybody was excited when they saw him, everybody kicked in. So it was a good event. It was a good experience in General Fair One and the young people over there were listening. I think that is the most important thing because they were actually taking the time to listen. And at first, even the ones that were there, some that were there because they were just checking things out.
You know, it was a little funny at first, you know, for some of them, because they're not used to dealing with real politics. They're not used to dealing with the real world, real experience. And they forced him to think, because he wasn't the rubber-lit politician that they expected for, you know, one or two that were there. I mean, they weren't being antagonistic or anything, but, you know, they were usually like, they'll kid or they'll make little comments. But eventually they were forced to listen because he was speaking fact.
even the very very very few the very small small number of maybe I'd say a handful kind of on two hands that were there that might have just been going huh by the time they were done they were going oh so this is very good and again go to YouTube punch in Liberty Tree radio and if you would please watch the videos and also rate them if you rate them and comment because that's what's really fun
And yes, we are going to put more shots of the crowd up because we've got more than one camera angle. We've got other shots that were done with other cameras and it was great. So we've got shots from behind the ground looking out across the audience, a little grainier. But we've also got shots that were done by Mr. D and they look really great too. So this was a good event and it's an example of what can be accomplished with positive work.
We gotta think positive, we gotta act positive, we gotta act out what we plan on doing. Yes. That's the most important thing. And these guys did that. They were tired. The guys that set this up were exhausted. I could see it by the end of the day. We helped them load up their truck. Anyway, we're gonna go to break. You got down to mark. The intel report will be back in three minutes.
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It's time to think outside the box with your host Alex and Jerry from 1 p.m. To 3 p.m. Central every Saturday right here on we the people radio networks You guys the intelligence reports let me look at the clock on the wall It says 11 October and we're past the first three quarters of this hour mark George from Florida George jump in there, please got new developments in the supposed CPS You there? Yeah, no go ahead George. We got you
Oh yes, well anyway, the child's up in the Cherokee reservation up in Oklahoma. The tribal council faxed a letter to Florida DCDF, told them if you go across state lines to try to grab the kids, that they will be arrested. And if you want to prove to your district that you have to go into their courts if they want to take the kid back across state lines. Well, in the meantime, they're filing paperwork against the perverts that were strip-searching the children, right? Yes.
Okay, well that's a good thing. In fact, remember, drag them to that court. That's even better still. Take them where you know, one of the things they like to do is they like to drag you to an alien court where they think they've got a kangaroo waiting, and it's nice to be able to reverse that situation. So there's a number of different ways this can be dealt with, especially as a litigation issue. And make it inconvenient for the enemy, if at all possible, because they always like to do that to everybody else. They try to take you to places foreign or alien to the jurisdiction,
so that they can, you know, a, you know, uh, uh, polish the court up in whatever way, manipulate the rulings. Usually they have a judge that's already bought and paid for in their back pocket. And in this case, uh, you can have some, well, definitely you can apply some positive energy to the situation, which is what needs to be done. Yeah. Cause I found like, uh, the tribal politics is a lot different than local politics I found out. Oh yes. Yeah. It's a different world because again, in fact, I got in this discussion yesterday, well, two days ago.
yesterday, as a matter of fact, boy, this day's run together. The, um, one of the interesting things is that you've got, for all the problems you've had with the Department of the Interior, people forget that we have these sovereign nations all through the United States that are sub-nations, uh, you know, like they're sub-components just like the states are. Although they're free and independent, they still fall under the aegis of the Department of the Interior, but they have their own police, they have their own courts.
There are specific treaty arrangements with regard to those people who are perceived to be members of the nations. And this can be a plus or a minus. Now one of the things that's going to happen here, by the way, and you know it's a good thing you brought this up about the nations, one of the things that we're seeing, you've got to remember, there's going to be a significant change in the status of the nations if U.S. borders are dropped. Most people don't understand what the mission behind this is.
the treaties with the United States cease to exist in their original format because we remember we have now here's here's for instance the Iroquois nations we've got the Mohawk you've got the Sioux they have different treaties with different countries now many cases there's going to be significant conflict between what they've agreed to with Canada and the agreements that they have for instance here in the United States
Now, I believe that one of the things that they're doing is they're bringing the United Nations, they're trying desperately to get the United Nations authority and they're trying to undermine the sovereignty of the Indian nations so that they can beachhead the property for final seizure, just like they have done with the national parks. And I've had a lot of people asking questions about that, so we need to consolidate this and make everybody understand. There are two pieces of real estate that they really can't, I mean, they can buy off a tribal council.
But still, most places, the tribal councils haven't let big industry onto all of their lands. Another place where big industry has not been able to excavate or peel off precious metals, oils, and whatever are the national parks. I can hear people out there going, oh Mark, you're not going to touch the national parks. Oh yes, they are. Because under the Rio tree and under NAFTA and GATT, they already betrayed us back in 1977.
to the international bankers they traded for the national debt are American national parks which is why they are now international biospheres. By the way did you read the 22,000 pages of the Rio, I'm sorry 28,000 pages of the Rio Treaty? I'm leafing through it right now here there's about 14 feet of it okay whatever. The point is that in there it acknowledges that in 1977, we're talking 30 years ago people,
30 years ago, they already acknowledged that they had transferred the property, but they did not want the American people to know. Now, what does this do? Well, the United Nations isn't going to uphold any of the edicts laid down by Teddy Roosevelt or the Presidents of the United States back when, restricted and limited access to our national parks. Now, what ties in during that period also? Well, George, the Department of the Interior, made a series of special treaties with the nations.
If they can drop the sovereign American borders of the United States and dissolve our governing documents, the sky is the limit on both pieces of real estate. Now, right now we have our own independent military force and we have people who think that they, you know, the eco-freaks, the tree huggers, for instance, think that, well, they have a handle on this. Wrong, because what's happening is the corporations know that there are vast
vast treasures. And if they can get to them before anybody else does to international law, the people that are sitting on them are not going to get jack or squat in return. And they've already transferred the national parks. Now here's what I think is happening. The tribal properties are parallel. They're doing this right now with them.
So, I cannot stress enough that people need to be talking to their people about this. It's why they're bringing all these special bodies in from outside and trying to convince them, for instance, to become United Nations NGOs, non-governmental, I'm sorry, NGOs, non-governmental agencies, oh no, NGO, that's right, non-governmental organizations. One of the betrayers we just had is the NRA. NRA management said, oh, we're going to the UN so we can see what's going on. No, they didn't.
They're going to the UN so they can become part of the enforcement and extension of the enforcement arm at the international level. Look what they are doing with the Veterans Disarmament Bill. The NRA is backing that. That's right in line with the United Nations agenda for disarming the United States. They're also behind... Oh yes, by the way, that is on YouTube. If you have not seen it, and I want to say thank you, if you go to Curt's site, one of our sponsors, the Bedfan guy,
If you go to the his site you will see a clip of their open discussion where he flat out goes step by step Through the idea that at the very least it's going to be a five-round magazine capacity But ideally they just need to make sure that you don't have any evil semi-automatic weapons even now So we're going that they're going the next step and here's the thing that they made the comment Well, you only need one round ha ha ha for hunting in reality
Did you hear about like there was a shooting in Cleveland, Ohio in the high school? Yeah. Oh yeah, oh thank you very much George, you know I was going to comment, we don't have... Well the thing is when I was in high school, I said they should bring back the rotten gun clubs. Because when I was in high school and junior high school, I bought my rifle on campus. Oh yeah, actually...
And they didn't have these dumb little lockdowns, like they have in school. I got a mad gunman then. And one time, classrooms were locked down at like 10 o'clock at night. And the gunman was like two counties over, but he still kept the classrooms locked down. Well, I think part, okay, number one, let's go through this whole thing with Cleveland. Here's the thing. As a white kid, nobody wants to talk about this, and this is what they're playing down. White kid, he'd drive by shooting down on him earlier. He's a predominantly black school.
The blacks fight in groups of three to five to one, always. If anybody argues that, I'll laugh at them. So here's what happened. The kid finally got frustrated. He probably, and I'll walk through the whole scenario, which you're going to find out to be the truth. The kid's, he's not a loner, he's just a typical kid by himself. He's got a girlfriend, so it's not like he doesn't like girls. They could try to paint that up by the time they're done. But what happened is this. He probably had a fight with three blacks.
The white kid was taken, the three black kids and the white kid were taken into the counselor's office and the counselor turned to the white kid and said, it's all your fault. The three black kids were kicked out of the office to go on down to laugh, you know, homie, yuck it up about what it is they did. The counselors ganged up on the kid. They tell him all about how he needs to apologize for just existing and how he needs to understand and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So he goes back out of the office after he complains.
They beat the snout out of him again. They did a drive-by shooting on the kid that the kid last week with his girlfriend with him. So then he goes back and he does two things. He picked out the two mouthiest buggers who probably were the ones beating on him every time and he picked the two counselors out who told him it was all his fault for existing. That's why it was a selective attack and why they're using all I'm playing I'm listening all this this verbiage where they're using selective verbiage.
And I'm going to just talk about that white elephant in the living room because this is exactly how it happens over and over and over again. I went to Ann Arbor schools. We don't have much time. I'm going to kick this in real quick. My little brother went to the Ann Arbor school system. He's in shop class. He turns around. There's two or three black kids. They can get away with murder.
they stick him in the back with a screwdriver this is the superintendent of the school goes on a good as we can have an incident here if they send him home to walk six blocks with a with an eight-inch screwdriver stuck in his back because they didn't want a politically incorrect incident and example just the kind of games that are played and when we touch on this again we come back to start your thank you for uh... for calling appreciated
Don is always God bless the Republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We are on the march both day and night. Ooh-rah! Six bandits. That's right. We'll chase down the road six and six of six bandits and make sure they don't come back. Thank you Don. Thank you Mark. God bless. On September 1st, Vote Rescue and our coalition Texans for Real Elections conducted an exit poll at the Texas straw poll in Fort Worth.
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