Mark Koernke and Donald Betcher discussed firearms, ammunition pricing, and Second Amendment rights on Weapons Wednesday. The show covered practical firearm recommendations including revolvers, SKS rifles, and ammunition sourcing from vendors like J&G Sales, with detailed discussion of historical pricing trends. Callers Ron from Arkansas and Jeff from Massachusetts raised concerns about gun confiscation during Hurricane Katrina, foreign troop deployment in the United States post-9/11, and state-level restrictions on pistol permits. The hosts emphasized the importance of armed self-defense, criticized the NRA's initial support for Katrina confiscations, and discussed strategic relocation to areas with more favorable gun rights and like-minded communities.
I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land is free.
and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent.
Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled.
You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn.
and your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave?
O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic in each God-given right, and pray to God to keep the torture freedom bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the midst for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame.
For even now as tyrants trampled each God-given right, we only watched him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, to distill the land of the free?
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Cornke. And I'm Donald Betcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, south, southwest, north, and east. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on WTPRN.com. We the People Radio Network. We're also on Liberty Tree Radio dot 4MG dot com. That's the number 4 MG dot com.
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29th August, a certain day, Don. That's right, we've got a much safer secure perimeter for as far as the eye can see. With a 1911A1, you're doing pretty good. Remember, if all fails, you run an ammo and they got really close, you can still beat them senseless for the 1911. Oh yeah. That's not as easily done with a Glock. Though it can happen, it's just a little harder with something lighter. Hit it with the magazine part.
That doesn't mean the Glocks are bad, and we always joke like this all the time, as you know, because there's still a place for them. I'll tell you what, if I was a pilot, I'd be carrying three Glocks. There'd be no excuse not to. In fact, one everywhere you could, lots of mags, all the same models, so that you got lots and lots of magazines, and if you lose a weapon, who cries? You got one more and you carried it and it doesn't cost anything weight-wise.
expensive mags.
$399 a piece. Now that's of course the over-the-counter price, so if you guys are down that way in that neck of the woods, you're looking for a Glock for a $399, even. The other is $400. For a used L5, you know, something that looks like it's been drived. Doug said that these look pretty good. They are very clean, almost excellent condition. They've got a little, some of them have a little holster wear.
But I've dealt with G&G sales for decades, literally. And what's interesting is they usually get in police trade-in guns. This is the sale that just came up. They've got about a hundred of them. And typically you're going to get more than you expected for the price. So for what these are and the fact that they're over-the-counter, ready to go. And as you know, if you go to Center Fire Systems, as Don mentioned, you can get magazines cheap. So here's a good combination of firearms.
Also, G&G sales has a bunch of other things that are going on, but I'm going to give the phone number out. Notice I'm not going real fast. Get your pen, get your paper, don't scramble, double check the pen. Oh, that one doesn't work. Grab the other pen or grab a pencil because they don't require gravity to get that ink to flow. Anyway, here's the number again. It's 928-9650. Again, that's 928-445-9650.
for J&G sales out of Arizona. A bunch of other stuff down they have. They do have some 5.45 by 39 Russian in both Bulgarian and Russian available. They've got a their cheapest Yugoslavian SKS right now is $149.95 for good condition. That's a shooter grade rifle. It will work just fine. The Yugo SKS's have been known for their accuracy. In fact, I wouldn't hesitate if somebody said here this is what you got to carry a B. Why thank you.
That's right. Give me a second one. I'll carry it to the whole point is that these are excellent rifles. There's nothing wrong with the SKS It will perform. Well, it's reliable ammunition is readily available and In this case, it's got the spigot grenade launcher slash flare launcher, which makes it a good combination arm So that's another consideration also now for those of you who have wheel guns JNG sales has a hundred and thirty grain 38 special 1000 rounds
for $150 right now. That's 1,000 rounds, 130 grain, 38 special. Give them a call to find out more about this. But for $150 for 1,000 rounds, you're looking at some ammunition for the range. It is reloadable, boxer primed. Guys, 38 special is so easy to reload. It's ridiculous. The straight tube case.
don't overload it, load it to standard pressures and the brass will last you indefinitely. So for training purposes and familiarization with a firearm, there isn't anything that beats for just quick use, a K, like say a model 10 or a Smith & Wesson model 65 or 66 or you've got all kinds of K frames out there that are knockoffs made by Rossi, by Taurus.
The Taurus Model 66, I carry in a heartbeat. The Model 66 is a butter action, very smooth, very reliable, K frame, 4 inch, 6 inch barrel, take your pick. But 38 special is the thing, guys. You can reload it or 357 all day. You don't need max pressures for what you're going to be doing for range, practice, and familiarization. OK, you need something so you can put the bullets down range. They're going to be cutting paper, and you're going to get consistent print. That's what you want.
So 38 special is in fact you're going to find we are troops have a lot of 38s. Almost every one of the units right now the 38K frame is out there in mass. You know Mark while we're talking about wheel guns I wouldn't be surprised near future we see one of the dunderhead reporters. Oh my goodness. Well yes sir.
There is such a thing as a semi-automatic revolver. I can't try to think of any more search for Macalba or something. A friend of mine, the years ago they actually came up with these new 1800s, late 1800s, early 1900s. There are semi-automatic, actually the revolver, the revolver mechanism in the barrel.
Yes, exactly. And they actually produce it. Well, there's a company still doing that now that's making it. And also it's an under cylinder barrel. In other words, most people are familiar with the higher riding barrel with the lower riding cylinder. Reverse that, which we see with some European and American competition revolvers, those people that were still using them. I know some custom gunsmiths that are right here in Michigan, they build from scratch.
lower station, lower barrel station revolvers and they've been doing it for years and they're manufactured. There are no factory parts put into the weapon. They build both in stainless and blue, private use, not for public sale. You're my physics of it, guy. You pull the trigger, pull the trigger and the force is directed much like Ronnie Barrett's guns. That's right. The gun doesn't rock up in your hand. Sack on target. For rapid fire shooting with revolver or automatic, take a look at the basic designs for most of the large frame.
Long slide 45, it's automatic. Take a look at how low riding they are, even with the optics and the other sighting systems that are put on the weapons. They bring it right down into the crux of the, you know, in other words, the ergonomically, they're designed so they bring it right into that niche between the thumb and the index finger and the weapon basically rides along the index finger for all practical purposes. Rides as if you were pointing, let's put it that way. So there's an extension of your hand. Critical to base instinctive point concept, which a lot of countries actually still teach.
The cool thing down is that there's stuff out there but the K-frame, get a chance guys, use it. If you run into them, don't get rid of them. Buy lots of ammo. 38 special, $150, 1,000 rounds. Boxer prime, non-corrosive, 130 grain, jacketed round. That special in like a K-frame with a two inch barrel.
Right now, Model 65s and Model 66s are out there in force because some of these departments, not some, a bunch of them have bought into selling their reserve weapons or getting rid of their K-frames. So what's happening is the Smith & Wesson 65s and 66s that were laying there in little caches around the country are starting to show up. They were out about two years ago, big. They're coming out a little bit again, so look around. You'll find them laying around out there, and stainless is beautiful because
reduces maintenance problems. Now that doesn't mean you don't have to clean the weapon. But what it means is that for basic storage use as a reserve firearm, put it somewhere out of sight, out of mind, stainless is nice. Stainless is very user friendly in that respect. So those would be the weapons that can go out of sight, underground, out of mind. Don, you know that when you open the tube, they'll be right there waiting for it. That should be the footing on top, the ability to defend yourself.
Exactly. Now a little trick to that with storage. Remember, for storage ammunition if you can, nickel cases. Why? Well obviously moisture resistant. So between a really well loaded round, factory preferably for this type of storage, although it can be home loaded, just make sure that again nickel case, so that everything is properly sealed. It's a steel firearm. Man, you got the best of both worlds. And remember for ejection from the firearm, from the cylinder,
far superior to just conventional brass. So whenever you can do that, you want to do that for your combat loads. But remember, and this is why I recommend Standard Factory for everything else, you're going to be on the range. You've got to be able to use your weapon extensively for familiarization. So the cheaper ammunition is what you use to put bullets down range so that you're able to practice, practice, you're able to become confident with your firearm. So, Arc, you can read with light loads plus P-load.
You know, on that note, by the way, that's another thing. Remember, we're going the other direction with the thought process now, real quick here. If you want to make up a hot load, keep this in mind. Most every modern firearm, unless you've got something that's a very old weapon and then it's still serviceable, you just have to keep it within standard service load ranges.
But you can load a .38 or .357 equally. Remember, they've got plus P plus .38s that you can dump into a standard K frame for departments that are restricted to .38 only, and you get the same performance as a .357 out of that frame. So the important thing is to be cautious, though. And again, common sense should prevail in all situations. We'll go to a break. This is the Intel Report. Weapons Wednesday will be back in about three minutes.
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like three times their cost when they came into the U.S. But what happened is all these guys that invested, see it wasn't the big boys that invested their money in the SKS's and the AK's when they came in. It was little guys like you and me. And so they put a note out for say a million and a half, two million, three million dollars and they bought that many dollars worth of SKS's. Well over there they were buying them for $11 a piece, nine to 11.
They brought them back on shipping costs and everything and they charged about, you know, the high end was $22 a piece over there. We're talking what they came from out of the factory people or from the warehouse. Well, they brought them over here, sold them for $56 instead of the $150 they figured everybody was going to charge. So everybody was happy. But these guys were turning their inventory around because they wanted to buy more SKS's to sell more SKS's.
happened.
fifty six dollars for the rifle fifty six dollars for sixteen hundred rounds of factory-grade ammunition hey guys look at your price of ammo right now many of these we're gonna mention many companies today by the way look at the price now with that being the case uh... obviously they're very frustrated and in fact we saw this happen with guys who had ffl's where the uh... uh... back packets were uh... causing problems for them because we're selling these weapons to keep there's no regulation tells anybody what price you have to put on an arm
That's right. If you want to sell more for less, you sell more for less. But that's actually what they were doing. It was the same with the K98 Mausers that were down to $27.95 apiece is what people were selling them for. Remember those days? They weren't that long ago. And for $27.95, you got yourself a Czech or a Polish or, you know, Model 29 Polish, a BRNO, or a, you could get a standard K98 German Mauser, a Kar98.
For about $27.50, ammunition was about, oh, 3 to 5 cents a round. In fact, even up until just a short time ago, ammunition was still about a nickel to 6, 7 cents a round for 8 Mauser. Remember those big blocks of 2,000 rounds in a fabricated tin made in grease or overseas? Those things were all coming in. Those were all investments. Now, if you bought that ammunition at 3 cents a round, or if you bought that SKS for $56, what is that same rifle going for today?
for a year and you know gave you a different gun. What's sad is a year after we got all those SKS's some guys bought 34 you know they bought 30 count cases they bought like 50 a hundred of the things. Yeah people come up and thought well you got any of those 56 dollar SKS's left? It's like no and they wouldn't be 56 dollars anyway would they? See that's the whole problem. When we explain this to people I got to say something real quick on the air. When we recommend certain things it is not Kmart. This is surplus.
Okay, in other words, it'll be around for that price for however many of them there are that last and after they're gone, typically they're gone. Now there might be another wave that comes in, but the price is dictated by the market. And right now, there are no $56 SKS's. Unless you're lucky and find somebody out there who's willing to give it to you for that price because you're a really good friend. And if that's the case, I don't have any problem with that. Because of course, the basic rule is this, guns are for buying, not for buying.
We want to make sure we keep our arms intact. Now we got Ron. Let's bring Ron up real quick from Arkansas. Ron, we got you there. Howdy guys. Howdy. Today is the anniversary of Hurricane Katrina. Yes it is. Oh yes. Tomorrow is the anniversary of the Great New Orleans Gun Set. Yes. You know back then to them, guns weren't for buying, they weren't for selling. They were for stealing. They were for confiscating. Yes. No, no, no, no, hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Compostating does not exist. If I do it, it's stealing. They're doing it under my authority. It's stealing. Still stealing. It's a theft, not a confiscation. All that is is an obfuscation. Everybody swears up one side and the other, it's a terrible thing. It is a terrible thing. It was a horrible trespass upon the Second Amendment and the downright treasonous atrocity.
But one thing that nobody seems to mention except for me, apparently, how to sing around with spires. Not once. Nobody defended their rights to peace and bear arms. No one was mare enough to step up to the plate and organize so that they could actually have a superior force and superior power over the third bag. They got what they deserved. Well, no, the one thing
were a couple of people in fact there were families are a couple of families only handful but they were like you know you and your sons and maybe your one neighbor got together and they actually did back them off my question was that they backed him off but what happened is well we know how vindictive the system is what did they do later perhaps when they would when the cameras weren't looking because this happened one or two times but the majority are exactly what you said everybody just said okay go ahead you know take them it's fine
But that's that one of the problems I have is the P is is follow-up which is what we have to bring up whenever possible is there were a few people who did But I would assume that with the FEMA police and with the other you know scumbags from the regional police that yeah They probably came back in later and did all kinds of dirtiness that we didn't hear about Wouldn't be surprised about that. No, no one for certain if they tried that in my town Yeah, it wouldn't go very far because somebody
If it was not Ethan, it would be somebody else that I know there. But walk up to whoever's in charge and say, now you put all those guns back. Now. And he would not tell him a second time. The second time would be a bullet to the head of the commander. But then address the next person in line and say, now, you, go put those guns back, et cetera. Well, then would be that classic line like the British used, you know, disarm, ye rebel, disarm. Of course, that's when the rest of everybody else fires.
That works, yes, I agree. What bothers me most about the Katrina situation is the NRA at the very beginning of it was cheering that gun confiscation on. Well it's because the NRA is not a pro-gun or an organization anymore. That's right. And what's interesting is, well what was interesting is when the rank and file found out and said, what? Oh, all of a sudden they did a double tread, they turned around, they sent their
We have a lot of legal people in and did all kinds of nonsense, but up until that point, if nobody had found out, they'd have been ranting and raving and cheering about the idea of those people going door to door. Anyway, stay right where we are, ladies and gentlemen. Ron, you're here with us. We've got Don and Mark. We'll be back in three minutes right here on We the People Radio Network.
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Yeah, exactly. Well, you see, that's one of the things people started to dig their heels in and there were several people down there that didn't get the media coverage for obvious reasons. They wanted the feudal resist, you'll be absorbed, yada, yada, yada, BS. And this was, that was part of the long agenda that you just can't live without big government. No, just reverse. You will probably die faster with big government than anything else could possibly be plugged in. They absolutely and intentionally failed the American people, but especially the people down there because
You know how they went and picked which houses to confiscate guns from? They could tell because they're the ones that didn't have smoke bark marks rolling out the windows and the doors were still secure. That's how they knew who was paid. And the only thing that, I think the only reason that the cops did that is because they were frustrated because they wanted to steal from those houses first. It was the people who had the best property, the people who had the nicest homes, they couldn't go in and ransack them like they did everything else down there.
And with the people armed, they weren't going to do it as mock, supposed rioters or whatever. And there weren't any rioters. There were criminals, criminals in uniform and criminals that were out of uniform. But there were criminals nonetheless because of what they were up to. And so that's where, again, a 400% increase, and that's the official number. So God knows what it really is because it's probably even higher still. Sounds like Melbourne. Yeah. Sounds like Australia now. Hey, everybody's an armed. Anybody who's a criminal knows that everybody's a target.
A reasonable target, also pretty safe, unless you see it looks like he might be a military type and then maybe they leave him alone because they're probably allowed to carry weapons where all the peasants aren't now. So you know how that is. Anyway Ron, anything else? Two things. Go ahead. One, I would like to plug another show. If you get it, listen to the Power Hour tomorrow morning. I think it'll be quite enlightening to you. And second, dear God, please save my country even if you don't see 56.
Thank you. Thank you. God bless. Ladies and gentlemen, we have Jeff who's been waiting in the wings patiently. Jeff, jump in there, please. Some days it's faster. This is live radio. If you haven't figured that out by now, you're in trouble. We're live radio. So Jeff, are you there? Yes, I'm there. There we go. We got you, Gordia. Yes. Now, as far as firearms is concerned, I happen to live in the most liberal state in the union practically. It is so hard to get a pistol permit
for even a security job and for the chief of police, whether you get a pistol permit or not. And to continue this thought of gun confiscation, what would happen if America was invaded by foreign troops, they outnumber us six to one practically?
What did you take on that? Oh, are you thinking, no, if anybody were to try and vape, keep this in mind, okay, let's just do some numbers. We outnumber them grossly, in fact they know that. An invader would even have a terrible time, and I'll go back in history, even with the anti-gun psyche they've tried to push, there are virtually tens of millions of Americans who are armed. A foreign overt invasion, which is why they do these crisis management things, is a very bad thing for the new old order click, because
As Yamamoto said before World War II when he was talking to the Japanese War Council, he said, you do not understand America. They were talking about how America would be a pushover because its army was very small, etc. Well, Yamamoto had spent virtually years in the United States as a military liaison at Tashay working with the Industrial Council and other elements of the Japanese government to spy on America.
and he went all over the country. But one of the things he stated is that you would take you virtually divisions of troops to try and take even several counties of any part of the West Coast because virtually every home has a firearm. Now, it's less than that now. And again, unfortunately, in the Soviet-sized states like you have, the public arms are reduced. And it's really comical, by the way, because on the colonial states, on the East Coast,
When World War II came about, you know, your governor's actually... Your governor is one of them, not the present governor. But your governor from your state told everybody that they needed to have sawed-off shotguns to get ready to fight a guerrilla war. That's in the state that you're in. Isn't that funny? Now, of course, now it's, oh my God, you have a gun. Before it was, oh my God, you need to have war guns. Now, they always do this when their britches are on fire. I always love this about these socialists, especially about bureaucrats.
When they're worried about being able to steal more from you, they need you disarmed. When all of a sudden it looks like another set of criminals are going to come and take over for that set of criminals, all of a sudden you need to fight for the cause. Well, when that happened, they actually were making public statements. And if you want to find out more about this, go to the publications for the American Rifleman for 1941 and 1942.
and read through month by month many of the little pieces that were put in there because the whole nation was preparing to fight in America. In effect, go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead. I'm sorry, I can see that because that was World War II. In fact, you know, I like the old days compared to today because, you know, here I am, I'm not a criminal, I'm a straight shooter, all I wanted to do was get a pistol permit so I can improve
standing in the security profession. I didn't even have a gun in my house. I took up an NRA certified and the written test. I even took up their combat course. I jumped through all kinds of hoops and then, and then, I mean basically I had to have a letter from my workplace stating armed job lined up. And basically after you went through all those hoops they still stated that it's a privilege not a right.
yes and that's the problem with this is that you know student did build the founding fathers would have or this particular action but then again uh... the people you're dealing with and and this is true this is one of the problems i'm gonna send all re reinforced this the overt elements of certain states would make you believe that the state is disarmed
In other words, what's sitting in barns, sitting underground, sitting in people's closets or in hidden panels, God knows where, roofs and crossbars and ceilings and whatever, beyond count. This is one of the things, this is why if you look at what's going on,
The whole Katrina scenario was designed to do what we've deployed in crisis management to bring in foreign troops and it's exactly what it did. There are two things that happened from Katrina and this is the anniversary date as Ron pointed out.
One is federal police forces, which we do not need and did nothing to enhance the safety or security of New Orleans or the surrounding areas. Number two was the use of foreign troops. You asked about an invasion. Well, they brought the foreign troops in, and my question is this. You got, just like you, there are many other Americans, who easily qualify, if we want to worry about qualify, okay, who could easily be brought into service, into uniform,
that are right here in the United States, why did we need to bring with 260 million Americans on the continent any foreign troops from anywhere outside the country? Well, that's it. And you know what the sick part is, and I know I'm going to go off on a tangent, but this is connecting to what you're talking about. We have all our troops over in Iraq, these countries around the world,
and practically we are a sitting duck. Have you ever read any of Al Cupid's material? Because Al Cupid talks about the same thing. Oh, I just, if you, I'll tell you what, Jeff, if you've watched him, boy, if you get a chance, do you have a copy of American Peril? Uh, no I don't, but I... Oh, if you, now remember I did that in 1993, and Don knows, and many of the listeners know, I addressed this very subject, and this was my argument for getting us into these foreign conflicts.
Because then, and I'll give you an example, when 9-11 took place, you know we had 27,500 plus foreign troops, mostly German and Dutch, who were brought into the United States to secure American military facilities. Now why did we need 27,000 of anybody, and how would we be safer with foreign troops guarding American gates and bases?
You're not safe. You're not, because those people aren't committed to the United States, although they are, of course, on the global agenda they're committed to. And my question was, where were they sent and who? And this is just the tip of the iceberg, because we know there were more. But we know at least that many were acknowledged in public statements right after 9-11. Those people didn't come in on a whim. This was part of a planned operation, which demonstrates that 9-11 was planned from the beginning.
The fact of the matter is, remember, think about this, you saw this on national television. We had Dutch AWACS flying over American airspace. Why did we need Dutch AWACS aircraft flying over the US, considering the fleet of AWACS that we have? Well, that's it, you're right. So there again, foreign invaders, but before I bring them in under the pretense that they like us, stay right there, Jeff. This is the entire porch you got down at Marcus. Weapons Wednesday will be back in about three minutes.
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We're back. The intelligence report that was, uh, poker face we still got. Oh, oh gee whiz, I had to pull the paper here. We've got Jeff from institution still with us. We still got Jim, right? Talking about basically for, um, for, for, for, for a security job. I think you have to get a class a, which, uh, the, the, uh, the firearms course I took up, it's called an LTR license. I think it's called an LTR license. Yeah. It's, um, it's, um, right.
It's called LTC, License to Carry. Okay. Yeah, and it's a class A job. I think so. My memory is kind of foggy. It was years ago since I did this. All 20 is, if I had to give it to you, then you have it. And if the chief is having a bad hair day, you're pretty much screwed. Well, it's basically that same way in Michigan, the prosecutor of the county, the sheriff of the county, and I can't remember who the other person is.
mucky mucks in each county will fight to carry. Here's again one of those turn off privilege, attach a fee to $20 for a five-year-old. Oh that's not bad because because in my state if you want to fight it you have to pay a thousand dollars for an NRA attorney and you know what the irony is? Thing bangers and the criminals have more powerful weapons than the police and I also heard this on a program and which is which is even the Massachusetts State Police have to go up north to get
their firearms. I'm not sure whether that's a fact enough, but I heard that on a shortwave program and I said to myself, I said, you know, I'm not surprised because you're living on the East Coast there. What isn't, if I'm not, wasn't Massachusetts. What would go so far is to say with Massachusetts, and I know it's sound, it's not radical because if you're having such problems there, you know, there are other states that are nearby New Hampshire, Vermont, where you have a very positive environment.
Best to wash your hands dust off your cloak dust off your shoes and walk away from the area and move to another state where you have people who are thinking It's better that than being in the middle of a bunch of casualties when the time comes because they these people will run around like chickens with their head cut off or You know again will work Dysfunctionally and one understanding all you'll be hearing next door is the why why yeah, why doesn't Ted Kennedy defend us? Yeah
Yeah, because Ted Kennedy's army is down the street defending him. And while he's of course busy putting guns at everybody's head to take their weapons. And to this, what she's saying is easier said than done. But the funny thing is, and this is a little known fact, which is in Massachusetts, you have all the union hacks that get jobs in Massachusetts, but it's up to New Hampshire. And the regulations are such that if you don't have a political connection of any shape, kind or form, you are basically treading water. Well, then there's still Vermont.
Yeah. I'm serious. I'm to the point where I would say this of our friends evening in California, I wouldn't say any different to them.
that it's gotten to the point where it is perhaps far better to leave the area of operation, at least by that part of the state where the real problems are, and move on down the road and let them become their own little whatever variation in the Sodom and Gomorrah, be it anti-gun or anti-whatever, so that you know all of their eggs are in one basket and we don't have any of the good guys to worry about when the war breaks out. Hopefully you're not there with it.
Now there are people, a lot of people like mine. What's scary to me is this. You know, we have a lot of listeners in Massachusetts and we have a lot of good people listening like you in Massachusetts. So you guys are not in small numbers. I think one of the other options would be to pick a part of the state like some of the people that are doing around the country and start to collect there and start running the Shiesters out politically by consolidating manpower, consolidating resources.
be county by county. Yeah, well even if it's just one county, the idea is that that county let the others all take forever and ban or block whatever permits, yada yada yada. But you see, you pick a piece of real estate that is less habitated, or inhabited, or you pick a location where you already have people of like mind and have somebody who is already in uniform who is friendly and you reinforce that situation.
That is truly the political sea that we have to look at right now. That's the term the enemy uses, that they're on the sea. This is a battle for them. They consider this a war for occupation. And I'd rather you be in a good position, that you physically be in a good position with family and friends of like mind. It would be healthier for you. You'd be amazed at how the stress chain levels change. When you're outside of that environment, you don't have to look over your shoulder because all the people around you are friendlies.
Well, no, you are absolutely right. I'm not going to give you an argument on that one, but I'm going to play devil's advocate, which is over the years of being with many conservative groups, I noticed, especially in Massachusetts, the trend is most of the thinking people are all over 60. There's a point where the thinking gear kicks in. They sound weird. No, actually, there is a wide range. But it depends, again, on what part of the problem with that that I see?
is that some people don't have the patience to work with younger people and they need to. Don, you were younger once. How long did it take to teach you? Oh, Mr. Otto twisted my arm. One of us has a different learning curve and has had different experiences and even then I'll be the first to tell you that when I first started studying these subjects, the first thing that comes to mind, and maybe Jeff this happened to you and I know it happens the most, boy those guys are stupid.
Whoever these dummies are that are running things, they must really be stupid. But then after a while you have to start thinking and looking at the situation. Now they may be ignorant for going along with the New World Order click, I mean, but they're not stupid. They think they're sly, they may be, they are a wicked of mind, but they're not, they're not stupid. They know what they're doing. They know the betrayal is taking place. Don't tell me that in Washington, people don't know what's going on with this trying to drop the borders of the United States.
I have a problem when they're not stupid. They're sly and they're evil and in many ways ignorant only in that they have bought into this thing believing that somehow they've got some kind of deal, which some people calculate that might be stupid too because they should know better. But the point is that it's incompetence maybe, okay, okay, there's some part of their brain that just doesn't seem to be working right that they can't figure out being perhaps the dimwitted in a particular nodule
But for the most part, they all have a good understanding. They're not ignorant of what they're doing. Oh no, they know exactly what they're doing. So there's there again, we have to be calculating in the same way. We have to engineer our resources in the same way. And one of our resources are people. Now, I'm not going to harp on that with you, but my point is I like to drop seeds. Think about it. There's other good people that are like-minded. If need be, there's a time to move from
that place where there's conflict, you know, into another location where you can consolidate with allies. We, people either do it now or they have the plan to do it when the time comes. Either way, be ready to do that. Don't get stuck in one place. Well, that's it. And guys, I thank you for giving me all this airtime and I thank you for being on your show and do have an excellent day. Thank you. God bless. Okay, bye. Okay, bye-bye.
calling again anyway that uh... that was jeff from mass and uh... boy we still have a lot to cover what we're going to be into the next hour to do most of it were at the top of the are almost here i can't stress enough that uh... if you get a chance people read and and dom knows of talk about yamamoto for instance uh... he states and we might have a time for the states that uh... the the point that changes entire mindset about america is that he was within a car touring the western part of the united states
They were following an American paved two-lane road that went up the side of a mountain back and forth. And they turned a curve in the mountain and they came to where the road was being constructed and they found three men operating machines. And it would have taken 600 to a thousand Japanese to do what three men were doing with the machines, cutting a road through the mountains. And he said at that point he realized the industrial strength of America.
Now we had that we will have it. We've got it to a point where we got to preserve it We're gonna do that and we're gonna do it armed as by as a matter of fact That's how well, we're at the top of the hour Don as always God bless the Republic death to the new world order We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We are on the march both day and night. Who raw Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back in the next hour in about six minutes. Thank you, Don. Don't forget the six bandits part. That's right
How about you, guys?
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