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Mark Koernke and guest Doug Hudson, author of 'How Governments Disarm Citizens,' discussed constitutional rights, the Bill of Rights, and how government has systematically undermined citizen liberties through administrative law and the commerce clause. They analyzed the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers, examined the original 13th Amendment banning titles of nobility, and explained how licensing agreements convert rights into privileges. The conversation covered the founding fathers' intent to limit government power, the importance of private property rights, and the need for citizens to understand and defend their constitutional protections.
- bill of rights
- second amendment
- constitution
- commerce clause
- licensing
- administrative law
- founding fathers
- private property rights
- 13th amendment
- bar association
- common law
- trial by jury
- gun control
- militia
- constitutional rights
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked him through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free.
and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent.
Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled.
You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn.
and your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave?
Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and eat God-given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom bright. As Iowoki vanished in the midst from whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame.
For even now as tyrants trampled, each got given right. We only watched him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, dill the land of the free?
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And that's something that is going to happen. So I'm just sending up a little flag there for all our friends in the chat room and for our friends around the country who know what I'm talking about. That's in motion. The 50 caliber shooters association, the next guest we're going to have up on Weapons Wednesday will probably be from the 50 caliber shooters association. And we might have Mark Serbo who will see what's going to happen there. In fact, I want to double check because I've got a little bit of a schedule here that I can keep track of. No, don't.
have it right here yet, but we will have a confirmation on that soon. But in the meantime, we have Doug Hudson, a book that he wrote, which I would ask if you can all get listening to support the author and also get good information out, is get hold of how governments disarm citizens. Doug, now you've gone through a lot of research
And I think I'm sure, one of the things interlocked with this, you went through the Federalist and the Anti-Federalist Papers, didn't you? All I did. Yeah, and actually the way I wrote this was accumulating information. Actually, through most of my life, I kept going, wow, now that's something it should be written about. And I'd scribble things down or photocopy things and put them away. And I ended up finally going, you know what, I've got about a book here. And I sat down and it took me a couple of years to organize it into a way thing.
I've had a lot of people call me back and say, hey, I want to get 10 of those to give to my friends or to give away at Christmas. And I know what I really tried to do was go right down the path where a soccer mom can read this and go, ah, I get it. And I've had some constitutional lawyers call me back and go, man, you nailed this. It took me quite a while to actually got the book written and done. And I stopped and looked at it and went, now it's way too complex.
intellectual and I straighten it all back out and redid it and I'm glad I took the extra time to do it because it was a labor of love but in a learning experience. Now that's one of the things too that I'd say is this is as Don said we were talking before the program that this is a good read to sit down once you start going through it you probably won't stop. That's a little warning because that happens a book is not too big not too small. It's a
a good entrance text by the way to if you're trying to say hey read this and you know start thinking could you have somebody might make a comment at work uh... this happened all the time i have students that i work well had work for me during the summer uh... in maintenance and have been doing different tasks i'd have been doing door repair and have some doing you know electrical and i have different teams and in the process they're captive uh... they're captive audience for eight hours a day as we can imagine so that helps
But actually, you know, they're asking questions. They actually, you know, you can bring up a subject and they start, of course, sometimes they just rattle off the dog when they got out of the class or school, and I'd have to start asking them the right questions. You know, it's like, well, really, so where do you think your instructor got that concept of the idea from? Or what are its origins? And of course, they couldn't answer that. I said, well, here, I'll tell you what, let me slide a few books across the shelter, because I have a stack of books at the work desk, you know, at my desk.
And I say, here, I'll tell you what, why don't you guys just peruse some of these and you can borrow them while we're here and you bring them back and everybody can trade back and forth. And by the end of the summer, I had a bunch of corrupted minds. And again, that's where the, this is a perfect text for work like that where you're trying to teach people. And it can be young or old. It can be any age person, but that's what I think.
The way you mentioned that, the subtitle, when laws replace rights, is what I noticed most of the beginners or the newbies that really don't, if young kids or, you know, are older and they've just never really questioned what the heck is government anyway, most of them come back to me with the idea of how do laws replace rights? Oh, I see. That's what fixates on them. The, you know, the disarmament of citizens, they think that's kind of, you know, a little down the path, but I've had a lot of people that fixate, especially students.
students and high school students on the idea of laws replacing their rights because they can grasp the idea that you have a right but you know I say to people if you have the second amendment why can't you walk into court and say I had a gun on me and I have the second amendment. It doesn't apply anywhere. You can't use it. You can't state it. The problem is that the Bill of Rights was written in the simplest of forms so that all of the people could understand it.
So all of us would be able to step forward and say, I understand what my rights are and the restrictions that these rights put upon government. That gets back to the whole. And again, we were from our laws. They are based on have come from a good portion from England and the progressive development of the common law. The common law, even though the poverty of a person be so great that the rain comes in the roof.
that the wind when it blows may rattle the walls of the cot. The king's men cannot pass the threshold nor the door, no matter how poor it may be constructed, save that they have a writ.
to demonstrate the purpose for the search and of course what is the reason for the action. In other words, it must be witnessed. These are foundation elements. Now again, you can't be selective with this, can you? That's one of the things they want to try and do. They want to make it selective. Well, you have some... Notice that this is one thing, Mary's going to bring this up. Well, I have a right to freedom of speech because it says so in the Bill of Rights. Really? What does it say in the Bill of Rights?
while nobody kept on the phone television woven you also have a second amendment right or no no you don't know because they told you can't win that goes back up here you either have all of the document or you have none of the document upright
I mean, doesn't that make sense? I mean, show me where the selective, I missed that selective clause, did you? And it's so cute how every one of the Bill of Rights is a personal right and then, oh, the Second Amendment? No, that's for the government to have gone.
Yeah, that's cool. Well, you know what gets me about that, you know, good point. Yeah, I always love this because I have that convenient tool which of course has been vilified on television and in movies I have a pocket Constitution. I have the citizens rule book right here. Oh, it's burning my hands. You know Doug I feel in pain because I shouldn't have this it's for the high priests of the Black robe, but wait This gets into something that I've explained to students I use these books by the way for that you for years and I've given out
The basic thing that our founding fathers understood, just like you said, when you were studying this, our founding fathers are pretty bright, weren't they? Well, these guys were a kind kind was gonna do with this government. Right, or what they could do if they failed to proceed to maintain the chains. Right. I'll tell you what, hold right there, because we're gonna come back on this. The reason I asked that question is gonna be validated here in a minute. We're going to break. This is We the People Radio Network. You're listening to the afternoon intelligence report.
And you've got Doug Hudson and Mark Cornsey here. We'll be back in a minute.
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Every Saturday night catch the wordly show from 10 p.m. To 12 central right here on we the people radio network back This is the afternoon intelligence report right here on we the people radio networks who got done Hudson and of course author of the book How governments disarm citizens I brought that up just before we left because You know because of the research you've done a lot of our listeners do to the founding fathers were pretty intelligent people for their day
Probably we were lucky. We got some of the sharpest minds, unlike government today. We got some of the sharpest minds that were available who actually gravitated to government. Many of these guys learned to read the scriptures in several languages, like Greek and Latin, when they were in there, like five, six, seven years old. Many of them entered college at age 12.
13 and they were very bright people. And because of this combined with exactly what you brought forward they were also honorable individuals who could pretty well pick out a skelly wag if they saw him. They had a good religious background, good faith, good Christian background which is most important. Now that's why when people go, well this means this and this theme means that or whatever, well with the threat of the Constitution Bill of Rights, the Bill of Rights is a contract.
Okay, right. It's a binding contract to put chains on government. Now, here's what's fascinating about this. Okay, we were just joking about it, but I wasn't joking about it. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people
peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Now if you ask the average screaming, you know, public fool system individual who's instructed, he would tell you what does the people mean? What does it mean? That doesn't mean, that means me, right? Does that mean Doug? Yep. Okay, that means all of us. So people are we, that's us. Now here's what's interesting, then we're going to turn around. Now remember we're still in the same contract here.
a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. What is that same screaming liberal, that is the term used, but the screaming maniac from the public fool system, specifically the colleges, and most of them east coast, they just rant and rave and scream. They don't know how to debate anymore. What does people mean in the Second Amendment as far as they're concerned? Yep, suddenly it's this.
this strange group that is that is only the government only under the control of some sergeant or uh... yeah none of my problem with this and this is why i said why i asked you could you see you studied and that we have we've had some on them some fun with this because you like i said they could tell the scallywags were out there couldn't pay so let's go to my favorite two amendments that they have been specially government wants everybody to forget about
Let's go to the 9th Amendment, which remember the first ten were the ones that were the anchor stones, the ones that put chains and taken. They stopped those rods into the ground and made sure those chains were secure so that monster wouldn't get away. Well, because they understood scallywags, the enumeration, this is Article 9, the enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the
people. Now does people mean government here or does people mean people here? Yep, how you're trying to scam it here. Well there we go but you see now there's where there's where they said you know what hey Fred Frank I'll tell you what I don't trust these buggers you know what those double-speak people are like you know what Ben you're right I got an idea here let's go to article 10 the power is not delegated to the United States by the Constitution nor prohibited by it to the states.
are reserved to the states respectively or to the people. Now, when any buffoon or any incompetent or more important, any thieving black robe scallywag tries to reinterpret the Second Amendment, the Tenth Amendment demonstrates by example the delineation between the three tiers that we are talking about.
Look what it says right there. The power is not delegated to the United States by the Constitution. There's the Fed. Now prohibited by it to the states. Are reserved to the states respectively or to the people. There are the three separations. You cannot go back into this document and then try to claim that people in the Second Amendment means state or federal government, one in the tenth, as a body of the document or an element of the instrument,
It shows that there are three distinct and separate elements. There are two walls separating three parties. You had a perfect example of how it is that the system really at the core, anybody that's been involved, or fighting it, or even writing letters back and forth to government realizes these people have gone crazy. We call it, there's two groups. There's Insanity through indoctrination.
but there's another group that are far worse they have their understand intent at every every intention they have an absolute mission to destroy our constitution our bill of rights and this country and that's one of the things when somebody says compromise as an animal what will you compromise tomorrow
And they always look at you, you know how it is. They will come back. Oh no, no, no. We need to be reasonable. The only, okay, then let's be reasonable. Let's take half of what they tried to take back. Let's take back what they've already taken and get it back in our camp. Oh no, you can't do that. Okay, well, I'm being reasonable. I'm demanding that you give those back. Oh, that's not reasonable. Reasonable is only where we surrender what we already have. Isn't that fascinating?
Yeah, and many people that haven't had the cold, hard facts jammed in their face. They find it hard to believe that government is so bloated and out of control and has their fingers so deeply into their life. And I was telling people years and years ago, I said, the thing that fools you, you're really on a leash like a dog and you just think you're free because you're running along with the master. But as soon as you go off to one side or the other, you try to slow down or speed up, they jerk.
and it's a choke chain and they jerk it tight and then you start to realize. Exactly what it is that's been developed that needs to be put down, which is the other issue. In fact, interesting point, you know, like I mentioned the common law, I always have fun with this because I've had students, especially when they've been in college, blurt out, that's not relevant, you have no right to the common law. I said really, okay, let me have some fun here. This is my favorite, this is the coup de gras on this one. Okay, really, have you ever read the seventh article of the Bill of Rights?
And they go, of course, absolutely silent. I said, now here, I gave you a copy of that. Why don't you pull that pocket Constitution and open it up? Now, for those who think the common law, oh, that's frivolous. It doesn't exist. Well, why is it then oriented within the Bill of Rights and is specifically mentioned in suits at common law where the value in controversy shall exceed $20, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved?
And no fact, now here's the critical part about why they don't want common law in effect, no facts tried by a jury shall be otherwise re-examined in any court of the United States according to the rules of the common law.
Yes, you got a good point there. Now I think that's pretty plain forward, been pretty blatant and this is why again these liars, did I say that these British accredited registry members, they don't want you to read this very simple document because this is our property. You know, Doug owns this, Mark owns this, Wes owns this, Don owns this, all of our listeners own these things.
And I think I read it right. I think I can still read English. And I think I can pretty well understand the punctuation involved here. Now, the most important thing is somebody would say, well, they're going to mention money. People do not understand that 99% of what we're all dealing with in the courts now, especially even the firearms laws, are all under the commerce clause. It's all commerce and money activity that they base the premise for their fictional authority, isn't it?
Not only is it, but it is, that's where they've gained unlimited power stepping into the commerce clause and then everything just simply is prepped by saying, well because firearms are involved in interstate commerce, away they go. I happen to have a little perfect pair. I've been a contractor most of my life in the early 90s. Hold right there. What we're going to do, I want you to start right from where you are right now. When we come back, we're going to take our bottom of the arm break.
So hold the thought and we're going to bring Doug right back in three minutes here on We The People Radio Network, wtprn.com, and we'll be carrying on for the last half hour here. The second hour is almost gone, guys.
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And ladies and gentlemen, we are right back. This is the intelligence report in the afternoon. We've got Don, I'm sorry. We've got Doug and Mark here. And Doug, go right ahead. You were, of course, a contractor before. Yeah, I just wanted to explain it. That point you made is absolutely right on the money that everything's been moved into commerce. And the way I learned that one and something that really set me off down the path of writing a book, because I just, when I figured this all out,
I realized what they're doing, they're moving us into the administrative side of law where you have no rights. And what happened as a contractor, and the first time ever in my life, I decided to get a contractor's license. I moved up here to Southern Oregon, and I'm, you know, I thought, you know what, I'm just gonna go ahead and do that. I've always just done it by handshake. I had a real big business in Southern California and never had a contractor's license. So I got one, and all of a sudden I get a complaint from a person that was one of these kind of people that sues everybody.
I said, well, I want to take this before a jury. And they said, you don't have that right. And I, on my own, argued the thing all the way into the Oregon Supreme Court. I said, hey, I have not only a right under the Oregon Constitution, but the over $20. Actually, what they did is they refused the case because the under our jurisdiction because he had assigned. Where did I?
Where did I waive my right? Nobody told me I waived my right to a trial by jury. Which ties into the next step. The argument is that then you were entered into a fraudulent contract because not all of the aspects of the contract, not granted buyer beware is the first caveat they use, but the bottom line is if one of the parties enters into a fraud to defame or to dispose of a particular, say authority, right, or emolument, then you have every right to challenge it as a fraud.
Yeah, that's not you. You got it right there. And that's when I started realizing, wait a minute, everybody told me all these years to don't get a license, man. And then I started realizing, wait a minute, I had to sign. And so it was my signature. And it says right in the decision, the court refused the case because they argued, well, I signed the contract to get a license, therefore, that was not properly before the Supreme Court. And I thought, OK, where did they do this? And I went on writing letters and letters.
is it that I lost that right and they just refuse to tell you anything? And it's, oh man, there it is, the driver's license, the business license, the government brings you over and they hear your signature. Again, what they're doing, that's for the converter right into a privilege. And so all of a sudden there's a privilege and a contracted privilege at that, which of course it's a protection racket where they're offering no protections, aren't they? Yep.
Well, and then you go back to some famous words from a document written several hundred years ago, the Declaration says usurpations all having direct object of establishment of absolute tyranny over the state, erected a multitude of new offices and forms of officers to harass our people. It's the same stuff. It's just a, wait a minute, where are they coming up with this crap?
well you know that that ties into it again uh... we we've run into some real discussions over the years uh... and that last till two and three in the morning and all night on the whole issue of uh... how they've implemented this and we have its date times and places we see a beachhead window about nineteen uh... a nineteen eighteen twenty eight night to eighteen thirty is one of the uh... different secret societies are brought into the country their members of the bar association
begin their beachhead to try and desperately take the country back in almost like a second swarm. We had the pre-Civil War 13th Amendment, which of course barred, in fact banned, titles of nobility in a more public form where it was an element of the Bill of Rights. And it
was in all documents, we've proven this, many people, patriots have gone to the state legislature right here in Michigan. You can go to the archives and in the pre-Civil War, Michigan constitutions, because they were written in book form, when the state constitution was written, it was a law that the federal constitution had to be written also and printed with it.
Well, right there in the books, on the shelf, in the archives, and you can go anywhere across the country, especially east of the Mississippi, of course, and find that over again, this 13th Amendment restricting the titles of nobility, which was the Bar Association, the S-Square title. These officers, the bar members, are members of a foreign invading force from outside the United States, the British Accredited Registry.
And one of the things that happened with this beautiful document, the original war itself, and the documents is that they scraped the table clean of all the attachments, which frustrated the bankers, the ring knockers, the whole bunch to no end because we were truly liberated. We were truly free. Now they tried immediately to bring us back into latches in some way.
frustration that had to be terrible because of the issue is nine tenths of the law and once i've fought a war for eight years and i think this is the problem even washington would acknowledge this even if they wanted to try and dump everything back in the place it would have been impossible purely because the people were willing to fight again
and we possessed ourselves, we possessed our property. We were not in contract with anyone except ourselves. And in fact, it's basically that Doug and I have agreed when everything was said and done that when we signed this contract, this document, it's to protect each other's liberty. And that's the issue of, again, your book is perfect in this respect. Actually, it's an excellent text. Like I said, you go right through jurisdiction, don't you? Yeah.
I began to realize the stamina were pulling and the more I studied the founding fathers, I went, man, these guys already did this for us. They already blazed the trail. We just got to get back to it. Right. At a given point, people have to, in fact, somebody said it very well, we have to, we have to grow up and be adults. Yep.
And that's really what was exciting about these men at this time. There's been a question asked several times, I think one of our listeners asked us on the air once, is Mark, how would you resolve some of the different associations and everything that transpired or has been found out about different people who were in the
the patriot movement in seventeen seventy five that you know some of them later on became still were scallywags in one form or another some not very many but others were you know we're in question because of different conflicts after the war and i recognize i look this way is they were the right people in the right place at the right time at that moment it just came together most people have a hard time understanding that is it
people change people have different life's experiences just exactly what you're describing but the men who signed the declaration of independence many of the spot i want to know that they may they paid it was not a matter of you know getting a good job with government but you know what you just said is a real interesting thing to have already on for thirteen months when these guys were to bid that intellectual mind sitting down and go let's explain why the people decided to throw
I've asked this on Weapons Wednesday, but I ask this constantly on the air, and I've asked this for many years. Who cast the vote? Where were the ballots? Can I see the ballots that are stored in the box? It must have been monumental when everybody voted to go to war on April 19th. Do you think they did? And everybody goes, well, vote. What do you mean? I said, well, I mean, I assume everybody thinks we need some approval from somebody and that somehow there is going to be a vote. And I said, how many votes were cast?
And everybody kind of scratches their head, especially with the students. I always do this. I said one vote was cast. One man with about probably an ounce trigger pull was the deciding vote. And after that, there was a whole bunch of pop, pop, pop bang bang, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop
That's all there is to it. And after that, the people decided. Well, and yeah, and people forget that when I talk about gun control, and they, well, shouldn't we control a gun? They said, well, remember, that's what the British were saying when they came marching down the road, and they kind of got tripped up a little bit at Lexington on the way to Concord to get the guns of the rebels, because they didn't do what they were told. Right, because they were getting tired of starring British troops at their expense in their own homes, which even after, and in fact, interestingly enough, remember that
the Constitution of the Republic is the second set of documents. Remember, we had the Confederation, the letters and articles of Confederation I played. A lot of people forget that. Yeah, and in 17, when this comes about to create the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, consider this. Now, they could have had it in any pecking order. But even after, and this is the war is already done, they've pretty well been arguing that, well, we need some other element of government, okay?
The third article of the Declaration of our Rights, or actually I always hate to say it that way, these properties which were ours, which put chains upon government, Article 3, no soldier shall, in time of peace, be quartered in any house without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. Now, that was such an important issue.
that after all was said and done, and even though it was, chances are the British weren't going to show up again, it was demanded that it be put into the Bill of Rights. I should tell everybody something right there. I'll tell you what, we're on our last break, this hour's gone fast, guys. You've got Doug, you know, we've got Mark here. We're going to come back in about three minutes on the afternoon intelligence report right here on We The People Radio Network. Times are tough right now, but there are a lot of different ways to get ourselves out of this mess.
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Doug, go ahead and give out all the information. You can hold his book again, please. All right. I just realized I forgot to give out my... if anybody wants to just mail a check in, they can mail a check directly to me, J.D. Hudson 484 Medford, Oregon, 97501. I'm going to give it all out again. Yeah. And it would be $24.50 for the book, plus shipping and handling. And you get the book and throw in the print of the declaration. Goes with it, too. And it's J.D. Hudson.
or if you want to credit card it 24-7 anytime you want to call, we'll get it right on the way for you. The good thing is, again, this is a perfect book to give as a gift or what I like to do, like I said, these are teaching tools. To get a couple of them would be a very good idea because, again, you want to have one on the shelf that you can use when you need to. You hear me do this on the air all the time. Doug, if you listen to me long enough, you'll hear Mark needs to reach and do and right here, you can hear that door go
Well, there's about three filing cabinets behind me, two big ones small, holding several bookshelves. And this is one of the rooms that has fewer rounds of ammunition, so to speak, in that I don't have all my books where I can reach them. But this one was, of course, in the studio, as a matter of fact. And I had to run out and I had to have somebody go out and pick it up real quick, because it's always in use. I actually refer these when somebody calls me. Well, what should I do? Well, here, pick up a copy of this.
And I refer several books, or like a reading list, to people where they're trying to collect their own personal patriot library, or they're trying to build up text and knowledge. And that's one of the reasons you bring up a really good point there. Our founding fathers, all of these men had huge libraries of books. That's where most of their understanding of mankind and government and history came from. They just, they accumulated and read a lot.
it's the one way, this is one of the things that the way I see it too, most everybody does when they read, but especially when you're reading autobiographies, remember back then the men did them themselves, there weren't any ghostwriters back then. And these men liked the Federalist Papers and when we see the Anti-Federalist Papers, the exciting thing about that is you're seeing their mind exposed on paper.
Now, some had an eye for history, in other words, how am I going to be remembered? And Washington, of course, did a number of writings and then of course felt before his later years, his last years, that he wanted to bring everything up to speed where he was hoping to correct some, you know, again, mistakes made, mostly in that he was a quick, he was a hasty writer and he made spelling errors. But that was just the nature of, you know, the way different people have different script technique.
Most people don't understand that, but there's actually, I'm seeing it now, I'm seeing this all rebirth in watching people on the internet with these chat rooms and such. We start to use phrases which of course are understood within their sphere. And they're not necessarily part of the good grammar or the normal structure of the way things would work in the public realm.
And it's not just a code, it's just a way that it becomes personalized between, like say, if you and I were writing. A lot of the founding fathers did that. And a lot of the, because again, they were working with each other for many, many years, they got to the point where they could finish each other's thoughts in many cases, which is really fascinating. That shows a likeness that is very, very crucial when it comes to making something work. And all of these men, even the ones, of course, I always challenge a lot of the students, and I've done this before,
like you brought up, which is perfect, the framers, look at the list of the framers of the Declaration of Independence. Take and then compare that with the signers of the Constitution. Now granted, there's a number of years, and there are quite a few years there between, but there are hard years. How many men are missing that truly should have been in place at that second event?
And just simply were not available because, you know, they passed on. They served their time, so to speak. They had done all that they could. Some of them expended their entire life's fortune. Family, they passed on everything. Well, and an interesting thing there, too, is when we see already, as many people have said, you know, the Articles of Confederation were okay, and the Constitution gave a lot of power, especially in the Commerce Clause. Well, 16 of the men that were there, the founders,
refused to sign the Constitution, said, no, you're giving them too much power in the Commerce Clause. I do not stand with that. They just walked away. And actually, in reality, we will say this, that in most cases they were correct because they saw the path. And that's one of the things, you know, somebody said, what can we correct? Well, we can see the mistake that's made. Just for all we need to corral the beast.
okay that has to happen we're gonna have to put chains back on the monster everything that they talked about in fact you know as you said they will we were warned this is one of the chapters that you have here the book we were warned we've said this in so many different ways but here's a nice again step-by-step way to give somebody at you know a process whereby they can start to move their mind
And we were warned. Many of the men actually were frustrated because, no, no, no, if you do this, here's what's going to happen. Now, the good thing is that it required good custodial ship on the part of other of the people as a whole. So they, the other side couldn't get away with everything they wanted right away. And of course, we do know that we had the Second American Revolution, War of 1812. And were it not for the militia, this country probably would be under the British flag absolutely and in public right now.
despite what they say and this is something that uh... i and i and again the people who've been doing the and this is even before the the latest wave with the the success of the militia movement what all the all the stuff has been done uh... and in most people again forget that the reason we're here isn't because everybody was warm and fuzzy okay warm and fuzzy they don't care about okay there's only one thing they seem to understand that the fact that we will protect our rights and we will protect our property which is an integral element of our rights
Private property is the Lich Pin, the key to liberty itself, which is another thing. Well, a lot of people, they don't realize that these guys knew exactly what the battle was. Washington, I got a quote from him where he says, the American Revolution is about whether we will hold a lodeal title or not. And a lodeal title, meaning, of course, most people, if they're, what's going on, that means King's title. You own your property, it's your property. You can't tax it.
me alone. It's sovereign property. It's an extension of your person. That gets back to the whole point, and I've brought this up several times on the air, that look at it this way. Your lifetime is a precious tool. You can't trade it in any way except by translating it. So what you're doing is you're translating your lifetime, the most precious commodity on the planet, into something that you can tangibly demonstrate is an extension of your life.
it is part of you you have traded lifetime for that's why the socialist tell you all properties not relevant all your problems are all somebody wants to take a just you know partly all the only saying that is a guy wants to take it always tell you properties not important is the same one as that mansion up there on the hill we nowadays whose whose collecting other people's property because he's told them not to defend it
you see that's the key that's one of the things these be understood here uh... i i'm going to close the top of the hour i watched show good old chucky the possum schumer he was on one of the you tube things all in the middle of the comment on you know we haven't done much for the middle class for a long time but we're trying to do the work we're thinking about doing something now
Well, gee, Chuck, okay, well like maybe we'll let us keep some of our property still because he's got to come back to attack somebody. Vampires can't beat upon vampires, as they say. You know, so these creatures haven't changed at all. And I think that's one of the other things you cover in your book, isn't it? Well, yeah, and the founding fathers, I know some of the people say to me, well, okay, now wait a minute, how come those 39 guys did go ahead and sign the Constitution when 16 of them walked off and wouldn't sign? Well, they just trust
in mankind a little more and thought, look, we've got a people that rose up and put their lives on the line and 25,000 died to win this thing. We trust them. I think the other 16 were just saying, yeah, I trust them now. It's down the road. It's my great grandchildren and my great great grandchildren that are going to be getting shafted by these slouches that'll come in there and and and to be wicked that gravitate to these bureaucratic positions.
got a lot of quotes in there from the founders you know with their picture and just i mean things that when you read a most of the world that was my favorite these guys were not bashful about it and they didn't and again after you've bought an eight-year war it's like yeah what's your point yeah you're gonna say that yeah what's your point not only did i say it but uh... it's kind of like a little joke in uh... demolition man you know you use those guns for violence now we use these guns for grocery shopping willing a lot of people forget the first five president
thought in the revolution. They laid their lives out on the line. This country was founded by people that knew what it was about. Again, one more time. Just give your phone number out. One more time for us. It's foundingfathers.com. Oh, give it out again one more time. foundingfathers.com. Thanks for coming up, Doug. Will you be able to come back again?
I sure will. I really enjoyed this. It's been great. Excellent. Thank you very much for being there. God bless. Bye bye. Ladies and gentlemen, we are at the top of the hour. This is the intel report. The second hour will be back at 8 o'clock on LTR. As always, God bless the Republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We're on the march. Fix badminton. Chase them down the road. Pulse them in the hind end and remind them we're a free people and we're going to keep our liberty.
God bless and good night.
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