Mark Koernke and Donald Betcher hosted Doug Hudson, author of 'How Government Disarmed Citizens,' to discuss the historical and constitutional foundations of the Second Amendment, government corruption, and the incremental erosion of citizens' rights through taxation, licensing schemes, and regulatory control. The hosts and guest examined how government agencies operate as privateering operations under admiralty law, traced the pattern of gun confiscation throughout history (including Britain's seizure of American-donated firearms after World War II), and argued against compromise on constitutional rights. They emphasized that the founding fathers understood government tyranny and that citizens must remain vigilant and armed to preserve liberty.
I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free.
and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent.
Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled.
You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn.
and your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave?
Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torture freedom bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the midst from whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame.
For even now as tyrants trample each God-given right, We only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep, And wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, What would be your answer if he called out from the grave, Dill the land of the free?
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operational. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a guest today. We've got Doug Hudson. Book the book. Introduction here. I'd like you to meet. I know we have Doug there somewhere. Maybe we do. You got me? Well, we got you, but I'll tell you what. This is live radio, by the way. Always remember that. Doug, stay right where you are. And Don, stay where you are. And all of you listening, this is the Intel Report Live on We the People Radio Network. We'll be right back in about a minute and a half. Hey, well, Don, let's try this again.
Okay, we have with us today an author. He wrote a book entitled How Government Disarmed Citizens and he's been with us before Mark while you were in absentia. Let's bring up Doug Hudson. How are you today Doug? You're not doing real good. We'll make an attempt at deduction here. Meet the founder of the intelligence report. I've done it on the air like this. I'm happy being Mark Kornke's sidekick. Mark, meet Doug. Doug, Mark. Good to meet you Doug. How are things been? Let's ask that.
pretty good pretty good uh... just uh... as as probably many uh... patriots and and uh... gosh for and people i've been quite a few scrapes with the government for a while and uh... i'm i'm bloody didn't and uh... and gab but i'm i'm still here broken but not be no now the first thing on your book uh... was the in eight of two thousand first official printing
And have you been, are you working on a new one or working on other texts? Well, actually I got that one reprinted, reprinted is just about due out. And I am working on a new one that that tentatively going to title that your government is your religion and your religion is your government because there is no difference. I found in my, you my whole life, I fought government at every level. And it's their religion. They believe they're right. And they believe in their God. And it's, it's
Right, and again, that's one of the reasons that as, in fact, I like the way you went through step by step of the book, and of course you explain why the book was written, but you go through historical perspectives, why Americans own guns, gun rights, or gun laws, our founding fathers' intent, and I think that's crucial. The thing is, you demonstrated the historical foundation of why we, the people, are armed. And of course, government, especially as government becomes corrupt, it doesn't want the people to be armed.
for obvious reasons. The King's taxpayers or the King's knights can't come out and pillage the village with reckless abandon if the people are as well or equally armed and put chains upon government, which is the basic issue across the board that we're facing right now. Hit it right on the head. I realize that looking at nearly impossible to deal with government and no matter how much corruption you can find and point out or when they don't follow their own laws anyway,
I suddenly realized, wait a minute, this is exactly what was happening right before Lexington when they had to start shooting. And the more I looked into it, the more I began to realize, wow, it's just, you know, what goes around comes around. Here it is again. Now that's, you know, it gets right into the meat of what basically was the chapter. So we are the intent of the founding fathers, of course. What were they looking at? What were they dealing with? And then, of course, then the next chapter is we were warned. And of course, we were.
or we have a big told us the writing is on the wall if you do not stay the course if you do not stay focused if you do not pay attention what's going to happen with government uh... exactly and with i actually i wrote the book basically to myself to make sure i'd realized when you stand up to the system as i'm sure you know mark uh... the estate get pretty high and i was trying to make sure my own head now wait a minute am i doing the right thing or this may get you know this may spiral out of control
And I decided to kind of turn to the founding fathers and look for that advice. And as I wrote the book, it was a real eye opener to me. It began to lock in the idea, this is a spiritual journey, and government's just a little higher, like off to the side. That's what they told us. That's why they threw off the British. People always look at me and they say, well, what, are you against law? Are you against government? No, I'm against, baited, useless.
self-serving bureaucracies that have no intent of dealing with the people but rather simply taking from them. What we were dealing with then, in fact, the level, the tiers of, well, exactly what I said in the Declaration of Independence, he has created a myriad of offices to eat out our substance.
Oh boy. And that's what we're facing right now with a bunch of people who they don't care what they're doing or how they're damaging the country or the people to the point now where they're so like pigs at a trough and is the only description that fits because I've you know if you ever feed pigs if you're lucky you get pigs you raise when they're younger sometimes they listen but boy when you put all the pigs together and you throw the slop on the trough they don't care what falls in that trough if you fell in with it
Well, if you're not fast, you're not getting out of that trough. And that's exactly how these creatures are right now, in that they don't care what kind of orders are given. We're looking at the collapse of all things, which I'm fascinated by the attitude here with some of the boneheads in government. The collapse of the borders of the United States is going to completely destroy whole elements of what they perceive as the existing government with regard to the bureaucracies and the jobs.
Well, and it's planned. They have a use for that. It isn't... I thought it first. Complete mismanagement and a bunch of boneheads in every position. But the ones a couple steps up that you never get to, they know exactly what's being done. You know, the hirelings, they haven't the faintest idea. They just get a good paycheck. Like you say, pigs in a trough, man, just flopping away. They could care less. They won't listen. An example of that, Mark and Doug, on a smaller scale. Many times I ask the audience,
an inch to a mile. You know, go into the bank today and when you get, when you're standing there dealing with a real person, you know, making a deposit or withdrawing over to the kiosk and you tell them, you know, when we go to a cashless society, you'll be out of a job. And most of them don't even realize it. And when you tell them that they realize it for the first time, you watch their jaw hit their chest. Watch him start to blink. Yeah.
This is something that years ago when I was standing in front of a bunch of the press and they were making you know They always make snide comments. So they'll try to you know, they'll try to be you know be aloof I looked at one of them and I looked at all them at the same time and I said let me ask you something since you want to try and be facetious about this whole global nonsense When the time comes if they take over why do they need 54 of the 55 of you here holding a microphone and they all stopped and they stared at their microphones and
And the brain gear, as you can see, a bunch of them were wicked. You know, you can tell. You had a couple wicked ones there and they were like, oh, well, I'm protected.
You know, their logic, that's in their mind, and they may not be anyway. There is no trust amongst these thieves anyway. But what's interesting is most of them had to stop and think, and they're looking at their microphones, and their little hands are shaking because, well, that's right. They don't need, if they're going to have one of this and one of that, they don't need 54 microphones standing there. And this already started to happen, and we've been seeing this across the board.
the country with the way things are developing anyway because look what's happening on that thing that was only supposed to get all the blue collar peasants us you know those guys well we warned everybody no and I made an argument with kids who are in computer because that's the one where they're you know the ones who are programmers said well they're gonna need me I make 80,000 a year and the whole the whole operation evolves around me I said okay wait a minute you cost 80,000 a year or 70,000 a year why is it why wouldn't I want a book of book not
uh... uh... to uh... take your job because you'll do it for two thousand dollars a year in a bowl of fish heads and rice all what we wouldn't do that so why not they can hire forty of them for the price of one of you well then all the sudden say about both of them was not forget me i remember at that time the satellite internet and all the other stuff the wireless internet was something that was like on the horizon these people who were embedded in this technology didn't think the process through
How many times do you pick up the phone where somebody's trying to call you nowadays and their little mock American accent slides off? Have you noticed that? And of course, as they said, telemarketing, but also bill collecting from India, Pakistan, okay, places often BFE on the other side of the world. And they're so fixated on their class.
as far as what they were instructed to say or to try to harass, that they don't, there's no, it's not even human anymore. Right. There's no human responses in interaction. You're not dealing with your agent down the street, say at the bank or whatever. You're dealing with some automated, you know, peasant, and this is the term, they really are a peasant level as far as what they're making. And they're just going through the motions. Well, you know what you're saying there, for years and years, I used to joke when I'd be checking out
paying for groceries or just about anything and people have trouble, you know, they got to get all their ID for the check or they're using a debit card or something. I'd say, well, won't it be easier when we can just pass our hand under the scanner? And people used to laugh and they don't laugh anymore. It's not funny. It used to be kind of funny. Now people just look at you and they get a frown on their face because they see what's coming. They can feel it.
Now the other chapters in the book, for instance, Growing Tyranny, which you do a nice job of covering step by step the historical but also the economical perspective, what it is, how it's tied in. Of course, brainwashing, well we understand that, that's what the public pool system is good for, but also the collegiate end of the educational process.
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Um, real quick, guys, uh, let me give you an idea of, okay, college towns, I work in this place, I, we, we watch the spies, we watch the watchers, so to speak, constantly. You collect information, you take notes of where they're, how they're moving, where they're mingling, who are their tech people are, because you see, we ideal a lot of tech people, and I've lived around this, this town for a long time.
CIA, FBI, all the spooks and kooks, NSA, we know where most of their offices are and all their own covert stuff in houses, in the basement like at the Stern Building up on North Campus where they drove all the students out, they got a little monitoring operation there, they've been running for years, or the upper floors of several of the high rises. Well, let me give you an idea, and this isn't the 90s, it's okay in the 80s, this is not in the, like, we're talking now it's worse, but if electronic technology doesn't improve their eyes and ears.
Back when the Oklahoma City bombing took place if you pay attention go through the Google searches and you look at all the stuff on me that was done There's a bunch of old stuff in there You'll notice that there's this bloke piece where they actually listed my guys think about this They were so desperate to show see look he did this. Okay, they actually listed the CDs that I had ordered had had to back order and order at one of the stores in Ann Arbor the day before the Oklahoma City bombing
pulling it off the database. And it's interesting because, again, it's all kosher mafia. I mean, I know we know who's in the zoo. They set up front companies. Those particular blocks, they're located off State Street, our old spook and cooke territory. They've got a bunch of behind-the-counter stuff, literally like, I mean, it was a joke, but it's kind of like the cross between the man from uncle and get-smart.
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are going to be the simple, easy targets for whatever they're going to be doing in the future because they aren't paying attention. And that's one of the things that the Founding Fathers warned about. You must be awake. You must face reality. You must be an adult. You have to understand the environment that you are in. There are good people, but there are also very bad people out there. And if you create a profit government,
the bad people gravitate to this profiteering government. And that's what's happened. That's what we're seeing now. When you make these perks and bonuses, they're not doing it because there's a right and wrong, because they've all been told in the colleges, it's all great. So then for what purpose are they doing the job in these alphabet soup agencies other than as mercenaries and as profiteers? Well, that's what, again, once you go deeper and you dig deeper into it, guys,
All of this is private, privateering and piracy that is based upon using the commerce law. They brought admiralty law inland and they had to have pirates to do it. So they created a pool using the colleges. They culled from the pool, the most vindictive, the most wicked, the most evil, and they put them into these piracy and privateering positions, which is why IRS, DEA, all these, ATF, there's, you know, the scum of the earth, okay? It's just that simple. And when you look at it,
Right from the beginning, right from the inception, they knew when they passed certain laws was going to happen. The Gun Control Act of 1968 is the best example. It's just like any other treaty they've ever set up. They lied about every aspect of it by the time they were done. And you know, Doug, what you put in the book here, like brainwashing, is like cha-ching. Yeah, well, you know, it's funny that you said that. The piracy aspect
I began to realize after years, I'm one of those guys that when I first got a driver's license way back in the 60s and a cop gave me a ticket for just some silly thing. I bought it and I started finding out, hey, if you fight these, right, I never had a ticket stick in my life. Yeah. Because these guys are just, they're, they're, they're, I don't want to say that police officers are all dumbed down idiots that fall.
figure out this whole system is kind of a system of piracy and i've said for years that people said when you deal with government think of that guy with an eye patch in a parrot set on their feet are the other fucker map yeah exactly well the assumption is that it's going to be in do what they do about it when they do find them and any kind of a tax on us what they do is a test water to see what level of fine commonly willing to pay what dollar amount will we go i don't know what my time to go in there i'll just pay the fee
all of the heck with it. And not thinking that now you see what they added to the formula is before when you did that it was like, oh well, it's just a civil infraction anyway, who cares? But then because you got into this whole contract nonsense with the license in the first place, now they've added all kinds of supplemental, progressive or incremental punishments. Example is the point system. Back just like you were talking about back in the 70s when you remember when the first energy crisis took place?
And everybody was driving 70 miles an hour, weren't they? Or more. And the average muscle car in 1972 did a lot more than 70 miles an hour, didn't it? Even if you were bathing it, it might have got 9 miles to count. Well, remember when they first came up with the federal injunction to drop everybody to 55? They created, okay, because they already had this points racket system set up that the strong arm, a strong arming from the insurance companies, they helped to set this racket up too, by the way.
What they did is they created energy points. Initially because they knew, well everybody was used to driving 75, 80 miles an hour. They had cars that could do 120 with a touch of a pedal and still have room left underneath it. Okay. Your speedometers went to 120. Does everybody remember that? Yeah. Mine did. Mine went to 160. Yeah. My AMX, I had an AMX javelin. It went to 125. 120, 125 I think. I think that was 140 miles an hour speedometer.
Yeah, and these were on stock cars coming out of the factory Now all of a sudden you're telling everybody they're gonna drop the performance of their vehicle down to 50% of what it was that was part of this whole piracy racket It was they knew people were not going to be able to maintain those speeds They built the highways to maintain a speed of 90 miles an hour as an average speed and by the year 2000 we were supposed to be up to about 115 miles per hour average speed on the American interstate
What happened there guys? If you don't believe that you guys GM was on the GM sold a 501 inch motor in Cadillacs and selling to the average American a 540 inch motor. Yeah and again then all of a sudden they decided to create a situation so they could tax revenue
actually what they could do is take discretionary funds from the american people and use them to finance the international banker debt because that's really what it was all about when you first got those it was energy points they were you are considered ticket points against your license
but give them two years and that's the same thing with all this contract racket bs if you'll notice this it's always two years whenever they're going to steal something they'll set up a a pony's a a pony scam in uh... for instance the bank fell off for you something it's just so good you can't pass up put your money in it it'll ask for two years and all of a sudden they'll tax the snot out of it and what they're doing is pulling mattress money out that's just like remember when the uh... uh...
So the different long term bonds or short term bonds came out that were being offered. Oh, they had a different number of different, the IRAs, there was a good one. Remember when the IRAs came out?
When the IRAs came out, it was no taxation, no restrictions, unlimited investment. Two years to the day, I worked for banks at the time, when they did this, all of a sudden, all these federal sanctions came in. What they did is they know that within a two year period, they reach a plateau of control. They will know to the dollar, and they'll be, what they do is they watch. It takes about two years, and there's a leveling out of the activity. They then figure, okay, this is all we're gonna get. Now we're gonna snap them, because otherwise, they'll start to get away from the racket.
They figured they got all the mattress money they could. Well, it's the same thing with all the same formulas used for tickets. The seat belt ticket was the same way, remember? First it was no, it was just like a ticket, but it was just a warning. We'll only pull you over if we see you're not wearing it. Well, it's the same scam. And this is also true of what we're seeing again with how they've done the firearms. Originally, no administrative control on the firearms at all for obvious reasons. They're protected by the Constitution. We know this.
I'll tell you what, we'll be back in a minute. We've got Doug and we've got Don and Mark, of course. We're here on We The People Radio Network. We'll be back in about four minutes. We're at the bottom of the hour.
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And just past the bottom of the hour, five o'clock Eastern Time, the Intelligence Report. Mark and myself, we have with us today. Doug, before we go any farther, I wanted to get your book. How would he do that? Well, you can call 866-RITE, 866-474-4487, or just 4-RITE. Go to foundingfathers.com. Give a little bit about it and how to go about it.
but uh... as they say operators are standing by at eight six six four seven four before eight seven and i think that the a four the july coming up by the first thing i actually published before he did the book with uh... historical print on the declaration of an approach and the price and the first place that all fifty six uh... guys spaces have been put together and and i was told story it's uh... seventeen inches by twenty two inches printed on on parchment
and uh... tell the story of what was done in in the prices get paid in and and what it was all about and i include that with with them coming up on the poor that with a book and normally uh... only i've back to buy the real uh... declaration uh... goes in as a little bonus for anybody that picked up yet you know what it's funny i did that i fought so long and and and i know you guys know how this is that
You know you get pretty tired. You get pretty worn down and you try to figure out what is the purpose here? And I look at this thing all the time. I look at these guys and I look into the face of honest John Hart. Here's a guy that left his family ran off into you know to hide from the British and by the time he got back several years later his wife was dead buried at his home site. He never saw his 13 kids again, and he died a broken-hearted man. Now these guys paid a price. This was tough stuff and everybody what happens now with 4th of July yay fireworks day.
And the fireworks were there for one reason, to remind us, remember what the founding father said, we shall display fireworks to simulate the battles that we have fought. And to honor our authority, the use of our arms, and that we will always preserve them. Well, and to them, and to that generation, it was a deadly serious thing, and there was pomp and circumstance to celebrate because they had paid a price. And anybody even near
British lines paid terribly, you know, and with their lives. And now people just, this way now it's right in. Of course in our school, we have an attitude in general that we are celebrating the way the founding fathers intended. And of course, well, we celebrate every day, like you said, because we're in the battle. Everybody here is in the fight. The guys all know what the risks are.
We've seen what can happen, but we also know that we've stopped a great deal from happening. I think that's one of the biggest things that I've had to emphasize coming back from the monastery is that people, you know, like you said, there's a weight and there's a lot of energy expended in doing what we do.
Well guys, we've been very, very successful. Otherwise, if supposedly it's people who resist, you will be absorbed. This will all be over. You're right. You're totally right. Think about it. Your work is everybody's work. Like I said, what I just said, down off the air, this is a teaching tool. All of you out there, they're listening. If you do not get a copy of this book, shame on you because with books like this, I have taught virtually thousands and thousands of people.
My books usually, some of them of course, look terrible because they're, and I try not to, I don't just loan them out to anybody, but I loan books out and I've given them back or gotten them back and they're tired. I mean, they're, you know, they get, every time they get a little more worn. But that's how the book should be. The book doesn't serve us any purpose sitting on the shelf. And again, the beautiful part about it is the words reach out and move into your mind. And there's something that connects at some point,
See, that's like you said, you know, you were talking about the framers, the men who actually, you know, signed the Declaration of Independence. The cost that they paid, they considered even though, and you know, many people say, well, would you do it again? You know, it was considered a necessary cost. It was a risk that had to be taken. It was a choice that they did in many ways as far as they were concerned they didn't have.
We are in the same situation. I mean certainly you could well you could you could fuddle off for a while off to the side and sit on your hands But how long before the dark tide comes to you? You see that's the problem of this either a we stand up as men as free men and we fight this or yeah You can huddle off in a corner for a little bit But as bad as you can see it's gonna get and it's gonna get worse. Where would you be safe? Well in the the
The interesting thing is that the country had just gone through the Great Awakening and everybody had gotten their Bibles out and read. It was a great awakening as I was writing this book to keep going back deeper and deeper into law and finding out, well, wait, what is the source of that? You back up, you back up. You get back to the point, these guys all knew what the source of all of this was. It was God, their creator, and they knew that when they were doing this, they were serving him as need be. And okay, you may give everything you got, but there's a reward somewhere else.
interject here because mark i've run out every now and then you've heard me say it and i apologize for butchering it because i've got it in front of me again and it fits right in with where we're due on this hour murky spring and when you sit on any number of authors or what's his name first name lot who run all the media treats guns or the media bias again carrying you because if you're not doing anything for your gun rights or your property rights or any of the other you know
No, I, the planting this seed, this is something that I've been arguing for a long time, but the biggest problem we have is this whole thing, and you're starting to hear it again, well, we need to have a peas, or a comparte way, or they're gonna come up with something reasonable. No, we don't have to come up with anything. Nobody does. We give no compromise. You can't have anything that I own. A thief is a thief.
Okay, theft is theft. A dog is a dog. These swine are swine. With regard to our weapons, one of the things we should be doing as firearms owners isn't trying to defend, defend, defend. We need to go after overturning the Gun Control Act of 1968. We need to be talking about that constantly or just flat out destroying the original document, the 1933 gun laws that the Soviet FDR passed. And he did it mostly by executive order.
of their there was no authority they had no authority to do it and nineteen sixty eight gun law is an absolute insult to the american people so in that respect to you there's a problem i have is this i've heard this move and we've heard this from one
in more than one place recently and I have a problem with it because when I hear certain verbs and I hear certain phraseology and I hear it from more than one point, you know that behind the scenes they're doing the rubbing their hands and going, well, let's make some kind of deal. You know what, you come back, you make a deal and I guarantee you, here's the thing. What are they gonna do, Doug? Don? They come back six months later and demand whatever's left. Again, I have, Doug, I'll yield the four to you.
Well, I was just going to say, that is the process. You hit that one right on the head. They take an inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another inch and then they take another
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Do you honestly believe he'd be like, oh hell, whatever you can afford. We need more. More is a start. And if anybody listening could actually give me some verification of this, I understand that when World War II broke out the British, having disarmed themselves, they had no guns in case...
somebody came across the channel and and you know came after him and they actually took out ads in this country looking for will you please give us some of your firearms when we come back i'll touch on it because i do have the articles on the file but they're not right here my fingertips but we've done this before i'll tell you what doug don stay right there this is the intel report live uh we the people radio network and we're going to take our last break and we'll be back in about three minutes
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Would you get that number out again, please? I can do that. It's 866-474-4487, or you can remember 866-4-RITE. Now, I wanted to back up in the conversation a little bit, of course, the thought of compromise. Go into that if you're a red China. You'll find the words of their... I truly enjoy pronouncing compromise in that book. Doug, he talks about when he's addressing the party members in the 30s, he talks about
compromise being one of their best weapons in the future. So again, you know, you want to compromise with the crook or the government or... I digress, Don. I think you hit those with one word. We can take the oar. Eventually you will have little to compromise about. Guy, explain that to me one time.
I was talking about rights and how they get you to back up one... Well, shouldn't we... Gee, isn't a driver's license something we all want? Oh, sure, then pretty soon they own your lock, stock and barrel. And here they come down the same path for your guns. And I said, you know, that's what I'm against. And he says, well, you can see it biblically right in the Garden of Eden. Thou shalt not. There was one rule. Shout not. It's very clear, very easy to understand. One rule, that's all. There was a compromise.
Well you know an interesting thing you had, and we mentioned earlier about what happened with England, if you go to the, and by the way, just one footnote here, when you go to the American Rifleman 1939-1940,
You will find information there. That's why I was saying, you know, go to the archives and check out, you might even be on their website now, all their back issues from the American Rifleman. Yeah. In there is where they have the information about begging for the British weapon or the Britain who needs firearms. And the American people donated something like, the number is about 127,000 firearms that were privately owned. They were sent to England for the home guard.
and the Home Guard issued them out, and of course the British had their, you know, anal retentive numbering system for identifying them, they had them in the armories. At the end of the war, they boxed them all up. Now, remember, these weapons were donated like a lend-lease weapon. They were supposed to be sent back to the owners. Well, when they were done, because they have gun control in England, they boxed them all back up, they put them on barges, they took them out to the middle of the English Channel, dropped them in there, and said, thank you, America.
So do you think we should do that again? The next time Tommy calls, you should tell him, you should have kept your gun, Tommy. That's one of the things I tried to get at in my book, is to show people historically, every nation that's ever existed has gone down the same path, and they always end up telling the citizen to sit down, shut up, pay your taxes, and oh, by the way, give me your gun. Or give me your weapon of whatever kind. It's what always happens, and here it comes again.
Well, the pictures, they were reprinted in the early 90s. We did them again where a lot of the Soviet images from the 20s where it had Stalin with his Orlenon, depending on which part of the decade it was, with his arms straight out.
Well, like he's accepting something and it had all these peasants, you know, slash, oh, I'm sorry, the people standing there handing over their bayonets and their pistols, you know, and of course they weren't gripping the pistol because that would show aggression towards the fearless leader. So of course they've got their pistols in the palm of their hand like they're giving it to comrade, you know, comrade Stalin or comrade Lenin, depending on which period it was because the poster changed.
But what's interesting is it was just comrades, disarm, turn your weapons back into the state. You know, that's interesting Mark, because that, I remember that poster in my school, fifth or sixth grade, told to me and everybody sitting in the car in the nation. Right, and of course with the teacher who was a card-holding Soviet socialist to begin with, and oh they're not dead, they're very much alive and embedded like, well, blood sucking chicks.
Yeah, all over the country, that's a problem. The ducts spread across the Atlantic and came here. We've got KGB, literally KGB, and the Homeland Security operation both in command and control and throughout, permeated throughout the different elements.
uh... and of course we got the homegrown versions here who and you know you'll notice something guys whatever they propose we've talked about this all you know the uh... the uh... police state active from the bar is homeland security you know the uh... patriot act as they call it it
Yeah, there's patriotic about it. Nothing patriotic about it. You notice that the socialists that we're dealing with here, the ones that even say they want to take charge over Bush, they don't say, we're going to strike this all down and get rid of this nonsense because we don't need it. Instead, they qualify and go, oh, well, there are some things we need to get rid of.
Well, what are those some things? This whole thing is bad. Oh, no, no, not when the new bosses come in. They want some of that operation in place for the next step in the police state when they introvert. Right now they've got the mock extrovert operation going on where supposedly we're chasing somebody outside. These characters, the ones that are, and it doesn't make any difference which much because they're both perceiving the American people as the enemy. They want to continue where they left off with Ruby Ridge,
etc. They want to plug it right back in and all that was passed back in, they passed back in 0102 is what was proposed in 1995 and we stopped it. Oh, this is the problem with this timetable thing. Well, it's like you said, we're looking at your book here, Doug. Again, you hit it right on the head with each of the chapters bring you to the final issue. You know, being patriotic Americans, what is a patriotic American? What is your mission? What is your purpose?
It's scary now that there's a split in the road and now they try to make you think the patriotic Americans, the guy waving the flag going, hey, do whatever government says. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Where did they get the power to do this? Why are we off bombing people in another land over oil? Oh, you're unpatriotic. You're an extremist. You're a fundamentalist.
Well, that's not a, okay, what's cute is the extremist part, no. Actually, we're holding to the true guidelines of the country, but as far as being, I'll say perhaps, orthodox. And what's wrong with that? There you go. Okay, explain this to me again. What was wrong? What's wrong with this? I'm a little confused here because you see, that's one of the things about trying to do the left and right nonsense to a degree, because you have to put left and right in proper perspective.
The extremists are the ones who want total police state. They want a monarchy. They want pharaohism. They want whatever ism it is you're talking about where the government is God. That's the extremist. And that's the problem. A lot of people are realizing, wait a minute, you know, there are people that, a lot of people that before were on the edge are coming to our camp more and more in so many different ways.
And so I think again, that's why I can't stress enough, use this book for those people who are out there listening. Get a copy of Doug's book, 866-474-4487. Go through it, read it, and also use it as a tool. We get a lot of fun people out there that do videos, Doug, so you can give them ideas with this work too, by the way.
we want to do. Anybody out there listening? There's all kinds of stuff going on. We've got so many different new young talents and they've been doing some really kick butt stuff that we've been trying to plug them in every way that we can. Now you've got another book in the works. I'm about halfway done with it that I realized in my battle, I'm one of those guys that goes into court and I challenge everything that's said to me, everything that's done and it's torn me down pretty hard.
But I realized these judges, these lawyers, these people believe in their religion of law, even though you can show them the whole thing's fraudulent and foolish and not based on anything, take it on faith. It's no accident that those judges dress like some kind of a spiritual leader and they make you stand when they come in. It's a religion. These people, it's a religion.
look back at my first book and I said I got to reprint it because I got all the it's my own mind I've gone through the basis here and and laid the framework of where we're going the next one is just you know everybody can see this is spiritual battle it in the end hey it's gonna be on on the good side or the bad side well that's where that's what's exciting about this is again where it's it's a or b in that way in that respect battle this war is going to be very very easy to delineate to identify
That could. Okay, we're done with this hour, you guys. It went like seven minutes. Appreciate it. Ladies and gentlemen, we got Doug here. He's gonna be up with us again sometime. Yes, yes. Yes. Okay, we'll have you back. As always, God bless the Republic. Yes, with the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We are on the march for day and night. Six bayonets chasing down the road. Give them a backpack full of rocks and let them swing back to the spiders overseas. Thank you, Don. Thank you, Doug.
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