June 18, 2007
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Mark Koernke and Donald Betcher discussed land navigation, map reading, and orienteering skills as essential preparedness training. They covered topographic map interpretation, compass use, waypoint navigation, and practical field techniques, including historical examples of navigation under duress. The hosts emphasized the importance of training families in these skills during peacetime and stressed the need for preparedness in response to potential civil unrest, while advocating for Ron Paul's presidential candidacy as a peaceful solution.
- land navigation
- topographic maps
- compass
- orienteering
- preparedness
- militia training
- field operations
- ron paul
- michigan
- we the people radio network
- constitutional rights
- self-sufficiency
- family preparedness
- survival skills
- open skies treaty
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave, in this, the land of the free.
and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free is home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent.
Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled.
You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn.
and your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage and the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave?
Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for once he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame.
For even now his tyrants trampled each God-given right. We only watched him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, to dill the land of the free?
Good afternoon Intelligence Report, I'm Mark Kornke. And I'm Donald Betcher. Here we go, one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines at occupied territories, east, northeast, central, and southeast. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on We the People, radio network, WTPRM.com, and on Liberty Tree Radio, also on AM and FM microstations, high to our guys west of the Mississippi. I'm not going to be general, but I'll be more specific later.
and also to our friends up in the Northwest and our CB base stations working all over the country, pulling out all the old equipment, dusting it off, off the dust, taking out the paintbrush, cleaning up a little bit. That's right, works just fine and reaches a lot of people. We also want to say thank you to all the people that listen to our CB stations because they're really polite, they don't key over, it's really kind of cool. It's like radio's been, well like we used to see in the past with a lot of other projects, so good work there.
It is Monday and the date today, Don, is the... I'm guessing, Mark, because I don't have that paper thing. I guess... And it's Monday, the 18th of June, 2007. It's a sweltering day outside, but a dry day here in Michigan, at least in some parts, thunderstorms and others. Understand that down in Arizona, they're cooler than we are right now. So I'll say hi to our friends listing down there. And of course, we've got a number of different things that we are going to be covering today. Keep your pen and paper handy.
We're going to be giving out numbers and contact points as we always do. We'll be back after the music here in about a minute here with the Intel report in the afternoon. We've got Donna Mark on We the People Radio Network. We're back. This is the Intel report live and it's Monday. It is the 18th of June 2007. I want to say hi to our friends on the east coast that are camping right now.
Deployments continue and of course this is a standard operating procedure. We treat every exercise as if it were a regular deployment anyway, so it's business as usual with regard to people who are in the field camping with their friends right now. Say hi to the 6033rd, 6034th, and I understand that one of the Colonial Marine militia units will be rotating there with that unit in about a week and a half. That will be the 11th regimental combat team Colonial Marine militia.
Under Captain way and I want to say hi before we go any farther because these guys are listening on a little microfence station So we're gonna make sure we say hi to Kenneth Rick Maurice Larkin list there's a lot of other guys, but all they're all gonna go radio. That's right. You are so remember that guys They again have done a very good job of actually deploying and using the equipment that we of course have been building for a long time and
One of the radios is mine by the way, I built it back in what, 98, so everything seems to be working good. Captain Way with the 11th Regimental Combat Team, I think it's the third company which we'll be rotating in. That's kind of a warning order too, because the guys were asking, well, you know, I mean, they've been asking amongst themselves, apparently that's all squared away, one of the Virginia units.
So we'll see what happens there. And in the meantime, apparently we've got some other cool aircraft of our own. Some other, well we've got a little, we build drones for what, you know, they build. Carrier? Yeah. No, the other way around. Yeah, the aircraft carrier for what? Ours won't be Israeli made, ours is American made. It works and we aren't ripping you off. You know, whereas on the other side it's Israeli made, they rip you off and the BS is, you know, doesn't work and, you know, is expensive.
So some fun stuff happening there. We've had some other follow up. And yes, it is interesting. They're not shunting. It's basically altering the satellite reconnaissance photos from the area or most of the public imagery. For all of you out there, you might want to experiment and have some fun if you've got some other avenues that you can check out. Alternate sites include going to the NASA site. Most people don't think about this. But again, we're the Intel report, guys. These are some of the cool things you can do. Can the other side cover all the bases?
A, it's a big machine and there's so many toys out there. You can go to the NASA site and start surveying specific photo images that are being constantly projected through a number of different streams. You'd be amazed what you can find and how you can pull up the quality of the picture. Now, the French have something similar, so do the British, so do the Russians especially. They watch us all the time.
And it was part of this, and I'm going to mention something everybody probably forgot a little bit about. Under the Open Skies Treaty, okay. Anything can fall out of the skies under that treaty. Yeah, that's right. Everything and anything can affect what it is, is both low level, medium altitude, high altitude, and satellite surveillance of contractual countries through this treaty are in place.
So not only do you have the spy satellites that have always been watching the US, like we've been watching the Russians and we watch the Chinese and we watch everybody else and spy in the sky, remember that under the Open Skies Treaty, which started back in the 90s, they were even doing low-level aircraft surveillance of elements of the United States from other countries that are not friendly to us. So, a vast data base out there to draw from that's not just from the United States.
See, be creative. Start looking at all these other corners and cracks. And the cool thing is that their imagery, because again, they don't have the interference with altitude with regard to going through more atmosphere. At medium altitude and low altitude with the surveillance that's done, you get a pretty clean picture.
And that is another option with regard to surveilling any area that you perhaps want photographic intelligence on that has to do with your area. Not just the area of interest on the East Coast, but keep in mind you might want new intelligence on the area, say for so many square miles, around your property. Well, you can pull actual images up and use those to like grid over with a topo map or at least... Oh, I wanted to go, Mark. Yeah. You're right. You can see a lot of feature maps like
But you know, streams are good for how the land falls. A good example historically, how many people remember Waterloo with Napoleon? The one single pivotal battle, or element of the battle, that cost the battle probably for Napoleon was the charge of the old guard. Now the old guard cavalry was some of the best on the planet, just what we say about the French. But what happened is, for a lack of effective intelligence,
a road which of course as you know in France and many parts of western France you have a whole terrain and you have roads that are cut through you know like different ridgelines or through different fields and yards or whatever well somebody didn't do their homework completely when they did the field recon and as they moved across the battlefield from a distance the commander watched the rank after rank of his cavalry disappear
Initially, and they didn't know what it was, well what happened is there was a cut that went across the length of the battlefield from left to right and the guard literally rode into it and of course the horses broke their legs and men fell on top of each other with the first rank, but here's the problem. Hundreds upon hundreds of men were behind them and they kept filling up this defile with horses and men who were of course crushing each other to death.
for lack of good physical intelligence, a simple road barrier. What a blessing recon is. Yes, that's why all armies have a healthy respect for having reconnaissance units. And even aerial reconnaissance doesn't do you justice. I have watched this many times where people have relied upon, or even when they've read the map. Okay, I'll give you an example. With reading maps, and I bring maps up because it's crucial. Like I said, when I went through U-6, there's one week
before you do anything else you have to pass all of their map reading courses. If you don't follow the map reading courses they give you three attempts. If you fail they're going to put you through the whole course again. If you fail they'll give you a third attempt and then they'll send you out to do another job. Here's another thing with satellites Mark. If you're going to access that, try to do it over the seasons. Exactly, yes. Especially temperate like where we are down up here in Michigan. We've got
And in fact, also the snow with the bare leaves, the leaves off the trees, the bare conditions, you get a chance to read parts of the terrain that are actually covered by foliage and make it very difficult to read. So yes, that is critical. Winter operations are quite different from summer tactical operations for that very reason. Well, right now in the middle of summer,
One of the most common mistakes made is when you're reading a map, sometimes people don't pay attention to how close topographic lines are. And remember, when reading a map, the closer the lines are, the steeper the hill. That's right. Ah! Plump. Goes the cavalry. That's right. Hey, that didn't look good. Oh my goodness, there goes another half ton horse and another rider on top of that one. Oh, that didn't look pretty. So the same thing is true with regard to you moving cross country or moving through terrain.
The area we're talking about does have mixed terrain where the vacationing spot is. And with that being the case, anybody looking at or thinking about that area of operation should take into consideration when they look at the topo maps, pay attention to how close those lines are. That also determines if you have to calculate the physical limitations of your troops if you have older people. Now, I can't say this of everybody because I had a couple of 70-year-olds that were in one operation, one exercise.
that we ended up carrying stuff for the 16 and 18 year olds. A couple of them, I had to kick that off their shoulders real quick. They were carrying the other guy's backpack, seven year old was. Can't have that happen, but for the most part terrain is crucial to understand. So we're going to bring up a little more on that. We come back from this break. This is the Intel report live on We The People Radio Network. You've got Donna Mark. We'll be back in about three minutes. Was it one of the battles in the south of Grant or
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Lighting the fires of liberty with your host Michael Badnarik from 7am to 9am central Monday through Friday only on We The People Radio Network. This is the intel report in the afternoon. The reason we brought the thing about mapping is because as one of our, by the way one of our listeners in the chat room said the one thing that all maps have in common is that they are all out of date the day they are printed. Remind everyone that reality is always right.
I'll laugh out loud, that's absolutely true. I had a joke about that when I was going to bring this up, it's perfect like mine. On an operation that I was involved in where I had to be inserted with a supplemental spotter who was also my assistant gunner for the camera and recording equipment, and this was one of our better operations.
This actually came into play with reading the terrain and I shouldn't have known this but you know You're so fixated on what it is. You hear something. You're trying to find it and I couldn't figure out why I There's a road on a map I'm trying to find the road and I'm trying to figure out why I can't see it and I'm moving forward about 50 to 100 feet at a time where we leapfrogging each other and we're moving through we keep looking forward and finally I Looked to my right I hear this truck and it was a it was a
SRT recon vehicles what it was and I look and I see this this vertical line I'm gonna ruin this this is actually one of the books now because I Watching this line go brand thing. What the hell and I were all my goodness I realized we were so close to this road we could have we throw a rock at it but it was in a depression on one side and I looked down at the map real quick because I'd been reading the map and I'm trying to fight get to it because we could hear the vehicles moving and I looked down I realized there's four lines tight
on one part and it drops down to three lines tight and close together. Well that means it's about 40 feet. There's a 40-foot depression on one side. It slopes down to about 30. What I was seeing, that vertical line, was the whip antenna on the on the on the vehicle, on the on the Recon vehicle, going down the road. And I looked over at my spotter and I'm like, he smiled because he was thinking the same thing, but he figured out before I had. So of course we crept in closer and the rest is part of, you know, something else. But it can happen easily. Number one,
with regard to maps out dating. Keep this in mind that even as it's printed, somebody could be doing construction. Look at how people, I mean, you see this out west, you see this all over the country. Used to be we went over a mountain where you switched back, back and forth through a hill. Or if we did go through a large, say, lower hills, we went over them. Well, nowadays, in most places, they actually cut a straight through, a wedge, and the road goes, you know, right across, and it actually goes through the ridgeline.
This is a real problem, of course, with regard to traveling on or near the ridgeline. You don't travel on the crest, but if you've got good coverage and good foliage, then you can travel right along a ridgeline and use it like an expressway. Except that you better know where these road cuts are that are new, and so you always have to be paying attention. Don't just read the map, read the terrain.
Pay attention to what's going on. It's crucial, especially with all of the situations that we see with new construction. And again, the map could have been, you may be using a map, topo maps from the Department of Defense or well, most of them, geological survey, are all done about every six, eight or 10 years, depending on what part of the country it is and what priority there is for remapping. They usually do in purple or do in a illuminating color, new changes which are usually manmade to the
terrain so that they'll be updates. Those are actually the updates that are taking place that are the newest that they have available. This is a real concern, which is why I've said many times on the air, get all the free mapping you can get. Go to your park services, especially go to new places that are businesses where they have real estate, things like that. Because always watching, if you see something that's got a map on it, pick it up and check it out. And if they're free and you can get a few more, grab a few extras. Put them into your mapping portfolio.
Put them in with your you know like say if you have a map for a certain area tactical area then add these to the inventory just as reference You may have to go over them example. They build a new subdivision There's a little map here that shows where the subdivision is and then it also has a close-up that shows the subdivision itself Well that gives you your whole road map overlay for where it should be inserted into your map which may not be updated yet
And this does not require batteries. That's the most important thing. You're working with the most sophisticated computer on the planet, the gray matter between your ears. Now, you know you guys... I'm sorry, Mark. It's okay. But you know, you guys... You're in a town where you don't know where you're at, and you're stopping at them. And the guy says, well, you go down there in the McDonald's, you make a left. You go over there to the Burger King, you make a right. You know, he's just giving you two brand names that you could also call Waypoint.
You know what I'm getting at here? Many of you who have navigated a compass course, you know what a waypoint is. But if you don't, you know, well, let's just do it like this. The other side of that, you're east of a mountain. You want to get to the west side of the mountain. And we're going to drag these cannons along, you see? It might be easy to take them downhill, but uphill is going to be really, really tough, don't you know? You're going to plot a course around the mountain. Now, if you've got somebody who's been there before, he says, well, go to this little old shack, and then you'll come across a bend in the creek.
And there'll be a big rock there, and then you set a compass course for why? Until you get to your destination. Now, many times a straight line isn't a convenient way to get some places at market. There's the machine gun nest right in front of us. Let's run in a straight line for the machine gun nest. Doesn't work like that, does it? Well, that's right. And in fact, also remember, it may be a straight line on that map.
But look at the lines that go across perpendicular to your line that you drew. And the closer and the more of them are, the steeper those hills are. So you have to calculate the distance from point A to point B, also in the depth of the cut of the land. That's part of an orienteering process. Have you ever been on this lake side of the Pathfinder? That's one of the things that you have to work at is knowing how to, A, pace.
how to measure your step. This is very important. In other words, you take a different step when you're going downhill and uphill and when you're going cross-country. You also take a different cautious or what we call a precautionary step at night. One of the reasons you're traveling in the dark. So you have to get used to measuring that. And one of the things we did with the night, we have a regular night operations course using your regular natural night vision.
where your eyes adapt, where we give you a set distance of 100 feet. And what you do is you walk the person through and you have them just work A, you have the area clear, you have your eyes closed, and then you open your eyes and you walk the same distance. Now, your eyes closed are the equivalent to walking through terrain that's unfamiliar. But you're doing it in such a way you give them a chance to practice or actually teach them how you automatically respond even though you don't think about it because it's a natural response.
There's a lot of little tricks. And again, when you're measuring distance and as you cut an azimuth, as you shoot an azimuth to a location, like Don said, you can map your way around what may be obstacles because while you could go straight line, you may lose time having to work through, over, or, you know, to go through natural barriers that will eat up minutes or eat up hours, whereas if you go around through an easier route,
You can actually save a great deal of time and work at a specific consistent speed in traveling. First thing about that machine gun over there, sometimes a straight line consumes your time and you mean it. That problem may not be your objective at all. Maybe something you have no interest in whatsoever. Y'all drug him off and we're gonna get to where we gotta go because we're on a mission. Yup. Yup. I like you, like you said, like our guest said is like, hey, that road shouldn't be there. Yeah. Of course, as you drop into it, ahhhh, plop.
Oh, but the map says so. Even worse, is that the front gate to a brand new FEMA camp? Yeah, hey, that's kind of, they've got lights and it looks like they might even have food and they've got buildings, all right. How do we get in there and then get out without us knowing? Well, probably if you get in they'll know and, or they'll walk you right through the front gate. Yeah, they'll be happy to let you in. It's like Roach Motel. Roach will go in, or you know, human.
And the thing about orienteering, one of the things to remember, all of you out there that have children, I don't care again, but our people have said, what can I do if you're an older person? All of you need to know how to read a map and how to operate in an orienteering environment moving from one point to the next, land navigation. The combat soldier may not be there. One of the things we test and train people in, and we've done for decades,
is how to get a person to work on their own or work as a team leader to get other people to safety. We're at the bottom of the hour break, first half hour is gone already. This is the intel report you got down in Mark. We will be back in about four minutes here on We The People Radio Network.
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Liberty Tree Radio, dot 4 mg dot com. But, you know, sometimes we can't do everything in one section of the day in a different section of the day. I want to say again, thank you, Eddie, for doing that. We were talking about compass eyes. These are things that study because it's said it many times. You know, Mark, I don't think you've ever heard me say this one, but you know what? The learning curve on a battlefield is extreme. No question about it. You know, I like to, I like to have a great trust in the creator.
And you know, he'll give me all that I need. But it's been said many times, he doesn't tie our tennis shoes. From heaven, one day it'll probably, I'll probably see it. And again, you're not just going to suddenly be a Jedi Knight. You're not just suddenly going to be a ranger, because you want to be. How do you get there, Mark? You train. You train, you train. And I'm not talking about railroad tracks.
and over and you train on little specific things like the ability to use a compass or the ability to take a gun apart and put it back together or the ability to put a person back together. A broad spectrum is what the modern battlefield soldier is going to need. The modern better is going to need to hope. You know one of the things I always joke about, okay if you're gonna watch television you can make TV work for you in a way. Sit down with your weapon make sure it's clear, make sure it's clean.
In other words, the chamber is empty, drop the mag, go through the process of actually working the action on your weapon. Activating the pull the bolt back, lock the bolt back, check and inspect the weapon quickly, drop the bolt forward, yada yada yada. Just go through and physically handle your weapon on a regular basis.
and watch television while you're doing it but sit there you know and by the way let the you know let the wife look at the weapon explain things to her on a break uh... do some physical PT this sounds weird but this one of the guys I know that's how he lost something like a hundred pounds what he would do is he okay if he watches TV he was religious about this he'd watch TV but when the brakes came on he would do however many push-ups or however many sit-ups or however many uh... jumping jacks and he had a couple other calisthenics like touch-to-touchers he did
And that was his rule. He could watch television, but during the breaks he had to work out. And so then he'd have a break to watch the TV, then the ads would come on, that would be his physical exertion time, and he did anyway, running in place, whatever. That gave him two or three minutes of physical exertion, got a chance to rest up for a second, and of course on the long breaks, he got more cardio. Okay, that kind of thing. The same is true when you're sitting down, you can do more than it's multitasking, you can do more than one thing. You can also be kind of checking out, like we were talking about with mapping,
Check out the information that you do have. Sit down with it, you know, kind of go over things, let the family participate in this. Give everybody a chance to say, hey, find the school on the map here, you know, for the children. Where's your school on this map? Then say, well, where's the house? Okay, where's the lake cottage? Where's grandpa's place? See how you orient everybody so everybody gets to participate? You get the children so that they're younger, they learn, and they're going, yeah, I can show grandpa this from now on. I can teach, you know, I can show grandpa I've learned something.
Plus, it's kind of fun when you're going down the road, take the maps along, give the munchkins the maps, have them be the navigators. See how that way? And bring the other topo maps with you too, so they're like, see that hill, find that hill on the map. These are the ways that you can teach, and it doesn't absorb additional time. You're doing something else. It's just a simple thing that fits in. Yeah, it fits into the program. And that's one of the most important things about the process is with regard to teaching. Everything can become a teaching experience. Now,
We touched on compasses, and I'm going to say something. You see, a friend of mine, and we've had a lot of experience of people who were defectors or people who have been taken by the enemy over the years, their homes, their country was occupied. I can relate a bunch of stories from Hungary, Romania, Czechoslovakia, Poland, okay, people who virtually were tortured almost to death or escaped from that particular situation, one point or another.
One friend of mine, his father was the mayor of a hamlet southwest of Saigon. He was arrested for being the son of the mayor. He was a musician, didn't do anything fancy. He played a guitar. That meant he had to go to prison.
Anyway, that's not good for him because he ended up in a two-man cell for about a year and a half, which basically had to crouch in constantly. There was a hole in the center of the floor for defecating.
And the high points of his time in that lock up for actually closer to two years was if a man would die that was across from him in the cell, you don't tell the guard because you get two bowls of slop instead of one bowl of slop a day. Until they figure it out. Until they could smell the guy. So it's a matter of how long you could put up with smelling a man in 106 and 120 degree temperatures, you see.
Well, finally they put him in a four man cell, oh I'm sorry, a six man cell like that. Then later on they put him in a work camp. Then they finally sent him home, but he didn't go to his home. He was sent to a place where one of his uncles lived near the coast, south of Saigon. Anyway...
He was putting a place now. This is classic what we talked about if you wonder what it's gonna be like in the future if they have their way He was what they did is they put him in a house that was owned by his family and we're talking a shack We're not talking house house don't picture two stories and windows and stuff like that. We're talking a shack Well, basically they put six policemen in with him and his job if he wanted to live Was to feed to clean every clean their clothes feed them every day make sure that everything was swept and kept taken care of and
And if anything was wrong, at their discretion they could kill him at any time. He was the house slave. He was the house slave. Now here's the kicker. He, it was illegal in Vietnam, and probably, who knows, might still be, but at this time it was illegal to own a compass. Any kind of compass. Your life was forfeit if you had one of these little 10-cent, like, popcorn compasses like you used to get in the Cracker Jacks boxes. Remember those? Yeah.
So what he did, he decided, yep, he finally got out of these prison camps. He wasn't going to stay. He was going to leave. So he started trying. On the black market, he was buying compasses. He bought one, just like that Cracker Jack's compass, and put it in the pig. He hid the first one under the house. He bought a second one. He hid it up in the rafters. He bought a third one and hid it in the pig's thigh, in the pig's slop, in the pig feces, as deep as he could where nobody'd mess with it.
Well one night he said they they realized that he might have these compasses and they beat him all night And he said well all they said you will stop beating if you tell us where the compass is if you tell us where the compass is Of course he had three of them Death death was death was for one. I don't know what they do if you had three Anyway, he said I knew if I said anything or told them about any one of them. I was dead So he took the beating all night till the till the next morning and they beat on him and he took turns There's six of them one of him
Well, that just convinced him that much sooner he better leave because it wasn't a matter of if, it was only a matter of when they beat him to death. So what he did is he and his uncle, he finally got him to the point where he could go fishing with his uncle on the mornings and he got into that routine for about a week, a week and a half, two weeks and he got comfortable with that. He says, and then one day I called up into the rafters and wee hours in the morning just after they left to go to Garrison.
And he pulled the compass out of the roof, he pulled the compass out of the basement, went out in the pig slot, pulled that one out, went over to the fishing boat, the little boat was, and we're talking like about a 10 footer. Okay, a rowboat. And he goes, he got in the boat, and I asked, I said, well, three compasses, why did you wait with three? He goes, well, because they were such cheap pieces of junk, he wanted to make sure that he got the right direction from two out of three. Consensus, we have.
So, and we're not talking the Lindsay $100 compasses here. We're talking $0.10, you know, Mike, you know, like I said, your life was counting on a little toy. But that compass, those compasses are what got them across the Philippine Sea on a rowboat. They picked up a couple more family members. There were six of them in this boat.
and they rode or sailed, they improvised a small sail, this was a tiny boat, and they improvised and rode across or sailed across from island to island, hiding during the day and moving across at night. And worked their way across major expanses, they said a couple times they thought they were dead, but a little compass, a 10-cent grocery store slash, or dime store slash China Sport compass is what got them out of there.
So I think we can all do better than that. Right now in peacetime, every one of you, all your family members, even if all you get is the cheaper Linsatic compasses for about three to five dollars, everybody should have a compass. If you can afford better and everybody should eventually upgrade, you don't throw away the old ones. Guys, you have cachees and berry tubes. You take the extra ones and either you put them in your 5'10 project for your squad, your fighter teams and squads for the people that are coming in, you're gonna re-outfit.
or you put them into your caches that you're going to bury at different points so that you have backups just in case you lose yours. See how that works? I don't think you have to roll across the Philippine Sea. We just might have to be back across the Mississippi or across the Ohio River and go cross country in the process. We'll be back in a little bit, ladies and gentlemen. This is the Intel Report with Donna Mark. It's We the People Radio Network on Monday. We'll be back in three minutes.
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The prairie grass mark was taller than a man. You got onto a little mound and you looked over there and at the horizon you could see the fort, the stockade that you had to get to. As soon as you got down off the mound, you couldn't see it until you walked through the clearing that was cut around. Now you're going to find same situations in many places where you'll be able to gain access by gaining height to see your destination. Now when you get down on that tree, your buddy's shoulders are that small.
you can't see your destination anymore. But guess what? You've already drawn an azimuth section on your compass too. So you get down in the foliage, now you're off the hill and you're saying, well, we've got an estimated 18 miles to get there and we've got to follow 180 course. You're going due south. So you get down into the tall grass and the trees and whatnot.
Well, you can move around this tree in that and you can get to a point where you're trying to go around something and you think you're moving in that course but you're actually taking a course that's slightly left or slightly right. What you do is when you come down off of that mound or your buddy's shoulders or that ladder or whatever, you get down on the ground. You look back at your compass to the exact course that you've called, the azimuth, the come point headache. Now you look in the direction as far as you can see.
All you can see is 20 yards. I see that tree right there. I walk exactly to that tree. I walk around the other side of that tree. I take myself another... See what I mean? How do you eat an envelope? Elephant? One bite at a time? And how do you gain that compass course through something where you can't see 20 feet or 100 feet or 100 yards at a time? One bite at a time. And you'll get there. But to me, learning to navigate underwater, Mark. Waypoints underwater are a...
When you come across a waypoint underwater, you've done something and many times navigating underwater to the best of your ability, waypoints might be 20 yards apart at the most. If you can... Here's two rocks laid together, they look like an eight. That can be a waypoint. Now that can be a waypoint on a featureless beach. That can be a waypoint, eh, you're gonna be hard pressed to boxing in the Antarctic. To get a point, you can mark an X in the ice.
simple. And it'll probably be there waiting for you when you come back. It won't fall. You're right. Well there again little little tricks that work is again this was covered you know we were bringing up this thing we were talking out here about we were soldiers where they show the the Vietnamese troops and the one guy you know stops at the tree and sticks the arrow in it you know pointing towards the enemy for travel routes in the
navigation manuals and also special warfare manuals and we applied this openly. There are a lot of natural materials. An example, just a quickie, it will still be seen by some people if they're paying attention is grass knotting. When you're moving through an area, if you at least want to create a benchmark in one form or another and you can also spell out or tell somebody something too, for instance, what you do is tall grass. You can actually weave it, knot it.
and depending upon the lay of the number of knots, you know, however you do side by side or however you want to come up with your code, because it doesn't have to be standard to the book, remember that. It only needs to mean something to Don and Mark. It doesn't need to mean anything to anybody else because nobody else wants, you don't want anybody else to know necessarily.
But for instance, you could put three knotted pieces of grass, one side by side. Just literally the grass is not uprooted. It's woven in place. You don't kill the grass. You just weave it together into a couple of knots. And three of those knots side by side would tell Don, for instance, he knows what his compass azimuth is supposed to be. But at 300 yards out, one, two, three knots, Don knows that if he travels that far, he's going to get the next message.
You see how that works? Or it could be three miles, or it could be whatever. But typically you want to keep the distances shorter because you may have to redirect the person who's following the instructions. In other words, this may be a change. This may denote a change in procedure, a change in operation. There's all kinds of tricks. And you have to be, again, you can be creative, and it doesn't need to mean anything to anyone else. Within your team, within your unit, within your family,
You're the only ones that need to know so you come up with a system that works for you But make it consistent and also kiss keep it simple stupid don't make it any more complicated than it has to be In other words very very simple that way when the time comes most people won't the average person isn't paying attention This is what the government counts on all the time the average person isn't paying attention You're not the average person now a tracker is gonna be the same situation. He's not the average person He's looking for things too. So you've got to be you got to think about that
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There we go. Yep, nice knife. Oh, but I got it. I got a psych spare burn like that. Give that to the munchkin. That's right. So I mean, that's one of the basic things. Remember is is everybody is basing a lot of what they're thinking about on the idea that it's going to be status quo business as usual. People, we're looking at the next war. You're living in the next war right now. Either a and again, we're going to try to come up with peaceable solutions to these problems. But here's my point is this. The other side is going for the whole ball of wax.
Like the Wicked Witch of the West, they may back off for a minute to, well, let's see, I mean, these things must be done delicately. Yeah, but they're still going to come back with a meat axe if they can. And when they try that, you've got to be able to take their knees off. That's simple. You're going to put them on the ground. You're going to keep them on the ground. That's what you're going to have. You're going to have to think. So when the time comes, first, we're going to Ron Paul for president, Ron Paul for president, Ron Paul for president. Notice I said it three times. We're going to do everything we can.
But this is the battle. One way or another, if they put one of these other scumbags in place, people, they plan on stealing the country blind. That's right. So here, would that mean the case? Then guess what? It's going to the next phase. And as it is, it could happen anyway. Remember that the nutcases that are on the other side, these pea brains with those little eyeballs, those black, coal eyeballs look like something out of a bobblehead in the back window.
Okay, look at the whole bunch of them. They're the same way. These characters, being the sycophants that they are, being the nutcases that they are, they might go stupid. You have to be ready now. Not ready later. Oh, I'll think about that when the time comes. Or, oh, the crisis is here now. Oh, Katrina's here. Now I need to think about a generator. Why are you doing that while we have some semblance of calm?
You can with ease go and deal with all these problems now Just keep plucking away at them get them done get them out of the way and you know what you will be so much happier when the time comes and even as it is Get the family involved if there's wives listening right now. You don't need to be excluded There's all kinds of things that you can do now that everybody has their own task and everybody does their own job and everybody has their own mission And everybody if they get it done the whole of the unit comes together everything works out
But you've got to work together. You've got to start thinking now, not waiting until the crisis. Okay, oh, oh, oh, oh, that's reaction. That's not response. We want response. I want it to be where, you know, you hit the road. Let's say your vehicle gets knocked out. Don't you love these movies down? Oh, the car's gone. What do we do now? Oh, stay with the car till they come here. Yeah, okay. Oh, no, no. Yeah, exactly. Let's wait to be eaten. They'll scrap the car and they'll scrap. That's right.
So with that being the case, it's automatically the car was a luxury. You're already prepared to move on foot. What do we do? Oh, well, car. Move the car out of the way if you can a little bit to get it out of sight. Make sure you cover it up a bit to make sure it's concealed. And then you pull out the map and you pick the route. Now you can travel by road. Road is faster under some conditions. But if it looks like you've got a lot of bad things happening, it is best to be out of sight, not to draw attention.
But the others travel on the road when you hear the gunfire and the and the scrabbling going on over crumbs You're going to be stepping around at such activity I would I would suggest that much like moving 90 degrees away from the pet if you're moving along a road and you hear gunfire Continue to move along the path of to be involved in that fight move 90 degrees to the road and not talking toward it That's right create a little distance you guys we got another hour coming up mark. I won't be there, but I
Tune in at 8 o'clock. LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com. That's right. We're going to have some fun too. We've got all kinds of things to cover. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the intel report. As always, God bless the Republic. Death eternal to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We are on the march both day and night. Six bad-ass. Chase them down the road. Give them a backpack full of rocks and they can swim back to the spiders that sent them here. Thank you, Don. Thank you, Mark. God bless.
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